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May 14, 2018 8:29 PM
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This is what I hear, "Oh muh fake non-existent nation isn't being sided with." "Uh, USA likes Israel better." Well no shit. "Trump recognized jerusalem as the capital for jews" (triggered). They just need to submit and surrender to israel they have no fighting chance against them. I actually was cracking up when I saw the articles :)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/world/middleeast/gaza-protests-palestinians-us-embassy.html
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May 14, 2018 8:37 PM
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im not much familiar between Israel vs Palestine, is this largely because of cultural conflict particularly religion wars? why cannot they just share the whole land with each other lol
May 14, 2018 8:39 PM
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Okay, as much as I love Israel, these people have every bit as much right to voice their opinions as everyone else.

Also...

HarryRambod22 said:
They just need to submit and surrender to israel they have no fighting chance against them. I actually was cracking up when I saw the articles :)

This is just obnoxious. If you're trying to win people over, you're doing a terrible job at it.
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May 14, 2018 8:43 PM
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It was a peaceful protest. Jerusalem always belonged to Palestinians, they have the right to defend what is being taken from them.







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May 14, 2018 8:46 PM
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Palestine and Israel should get along in general, cut the conflict entirely and for good.


May 14, 2018 8:48 PM
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dokidoki said:
It was a peaceful protest. Jerusalem always belonged to Palestinians, they have the right to defend what is being taken from them.


No it wasn't "The Israeli military said that some in the crowds were planting or hurling explosives, and that many were flying flaming kites into Israel; at least one kite outside the Nahal Oz kibbutz, near Gaza City, ignited a wildfire." That doesn't sound peaceful to me lol. Plus, Jerusalem is for the jews. That's where the word jew comes from. Think of the Kingdom of Judah from biblical times.

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dokidoki said:
It was a peaceful protest. Jerusalem always belonged to Palestinians, they have the right to defend what is being taken from them.


A land belongs to whoever has the power to own it.
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Valaskjalf said:
dokidoki said:
It was a peaceful protest. Jerusalem always belonged to Palestinians, they have the right to defend what is being taken from them.


A land belongs to whoever has the power to own it.


So israel since they have more power?
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HarryRambod22 said:
dokidoki said:
It was a peaceful protest. Jerusalem always belonged to Palestinians, they have the right to defend what is being taken from them.


No it wasn't "The Israeli military said that some in the crowds were planting or hurling explosives, and that many were flying flaming kites into Israel; at least one kite outside the Nahal Oz kibbutz, near Gaza City, ignited a wildfire." That doesn't sound peaceful to me lol. Plus, Jerusalem is for the jews. That's where the word jew comes from. Think of the Kingdom of Judah from biblical times.



Idc about what the military say, they even killed KIDS. They injured more than 2000 people, doubt they were all running with fucking knives.
Jerusalem and Palestine belongs to Palestinians, period.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/jerusalem-capital-settler-colony-171207100813811.html







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Valaskjalf said:
dokidoki said:
It was a peaceful protest. Jerusalem always belonged to Palestinians, they have the right to defend what is being taken from them.


A land belongs to whoever has the power to own it.


Lmfao your mindset belongs to the 12th century.







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Probably best not to fan the flames of that conflict lol... that's a bad one ;P

Like seriously sometimes it's okay to not have an opinion.
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I just don't understand why people are so shocked that Trump did what he said he'd do. I mean, Israel will always consider Jerusalem as its capital and all Trump did was recognize it on behalf of America.

Also, why don't ANY other middle eastern countries accept the Palestinians if they care about them so much?
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Considering that Hamas was democratically elected and he even said "Jerusalem will always be there till Islam wipes it off the map" and he pays protesters to get hurt, I would say that even though I don't necessarily like Trump, I agreed with what he did.
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dokidoki said:
Valaskjalf said:


A land belongs to whoever has the power to own it.


Lmfao your mindset belongs to the 12th century.


It's not my mindset, it's logic. A more powerful nation isn't just gonna let itself lose its terrority just cuz.
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can we get to midterms already before i jump off this train.

ExecCute said:
I just don't understand why people are so shocked that Trump did what he said he'd do. I mean, Israel will always consider Jerusalem as its capital and all Trump did was recognize it on behalf of America.

various arguments about the message it sends to palestinians, general bending-over-backwards to israel, and various intents behind it.

as for this
Also, why don't ANY other middle eastern countries accept the Palestinians if they care about them so much?

the idea of palestinians having to go somewhere else just because of israel's general shit attitude towards them is unquestionably wrong.
it's absurd to think that people can't care about others if they aren't willing to go extremes for them.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
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ExecCute said:

Also, why don't ANY other middle eastern countries accept the Palestinians if they care about them so much?


that is a good alternative solution to this conflict, especially if the rich middle east Gulf States takes all the Palestinians as well as getting all the muslim migrants that is going to Europe right now
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Yomiyuki said:
can we get to midterms already before i jump off this train.

ExecCute said:
I just don't understand why people are so shocked that Trump did what he said he'd do. I mean, Israel will always consider Jerusalem as its capital and all Trump did was recognize it on behalf of America.

various arguments about the message it sends to palestinians, general bending-over-backwards to israel, and various intents behind it.


Too bad. Trump said he'd do it since day 1, and guess what, he did it. Shocker!

Yomiyuki said:
as for this
Also, why don't ANY other middle eastern countries accept the Palestinians if they care about them so much?

the idea of palestinians having to go somewhere else just because of israel's general shit attitude towards them is unquestionably wrong.
it's absurd to think that people can't care about others if they aren't willing to go extremes for them.


Please. Israel is more welcoming to "Palestinians" than ANY other country in the middle east is, and you're in pure denial if you argue against that. Israel has a right to exist and they shouldn't bend over to people who want to destroy them.
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ExecCute said:
Yomiyuki said:
can we get to midterms already before i jump off this train.


various arguments about the message it sends to palestinians, general bending-over-backwards to israel, and various intents behind it.


Too bad. Trump said he'd do it since day 1, and guess what, he did it. Shocker!

Yomiyuki said:
as for this

the idea of palestinians having to go somewhere else just because of israel's general shit attitude towards them is unquestionably wrong.
it's absurd to think that people can't care about others if they aren't willing to go extremes for them.


Please. Israel is more welcoming to "Palestinians" than ANY other country in the middle east is, and you're in pure denial if you argue against that. Israel has a right to exist and they shouldn't bend over to people who want to destroy them.

i'm not sure how to even respond, you are literally 10 seconds of googling from seeing how wrong you are when you think this situation is just israel defending itself against all their enemies.
they have undoubtedly confronted these kinds of problems horribly in almost every way imaginable, countless times.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



May 14, 2018 9:47 PM

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deg said:
ExecCute said:

Also, why don't ANY other middle eastern countries accept the Palestinians if they care about them so much?


that is a good alternative solution to this conflict, especially if the rich middle east Gulf States takes all the Palestinians as well as getting all the muslim migrants that is going to Europe right now

i agree, deport all the migrants in europe to israel.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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Yomiyuki said:
deg said:


that is a good alternative solution to this conflict, especially if the rich middle east Gulf States takes all the Palestinians as well as getting all the muslim migrants that is going to Europe right now

i agree, deport all the migrants in europe to israel.


i thought conservatives like you love israel lol guess you are an exception to the rule
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Will Hamas hurry up and invade Israel so I can send the Crusaders US military and have a line of zealots volunteers ready to join the US military to occupy... loot liberate the holy land.
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ExecCute said:

Please. Israel is more welcoming to "Palestinians" than ANY other country in the middle east is, and you're in pure denial if you argue against that. Israel has a right to exist and they shouldn't bend over to people who want to destroy them.


Google is free so do you research before you talk about Israel being "welcoming". Israel is guilty of Ethnic cleansing the country of Palestinians since 1940s but yeah of course they are welcoming with their guns and shit <333







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dokidoki said:
ExecCute said:

Please. Israel is more welcoming to "Palestinians" than ANY other country in the middle east is, and you're in pure denial if you argue against that. Israel has a right to exist and they shouldn't bend over to people who want to destroy them.


Google is free so do you research before you talk about Israel being "welcoming". Israel is guilty of Ethnic cleansing the country of Palestinians since 1940s but yeah of course they are welcoming with their guns and shit <333


Why don't you give me a citation instead of making stupid claims?

Yomiyuki said:

i'm not sure how to even respond, you are literally 10 seconds of googling from seeing how wrong you are when you think this situation is just israel defending itself against all their enemies.
they have undoubtedly confronted these kinds of problems horribly in almost every way imaginable, countless times.


So why would Israel just choose "Palestinians" to pick on for no reason at all? Why do they feel the need to defend themselves?

Yomiyuki said:
deg said:


that is a good alternative solution to this conflict, especially if the rich middle east Gulf States takes all the Palestinians as well as getting all the muslim migrants that is going to Europe right now

i agree, deport all the migrants in europe to israel.


LMAO go back to pol.
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deg said:
Yomiyuki said:

i agree, deport all the migrants in europe to israel.


i thought conservatives like you love israel lol guess you are an exception to the rule

i don't mind some khazar qties like this every now and then



but i can't defend a state that regularly commits inhumane acts against it's non-native population, regularly makes their lives harder, and encourages my country into meddling with the middle east for no real purpose aside from the benefits it gives to israel.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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ExecCute said:
dokidoki said:


Google is free so do you research before you talk about Israel being "welcoming". Israel is guilty of Ethnic cleansing the country of Palestinians since 1940s but yeah of course they are welcoming with their guns and shit <333


Why don't you give me a citation instead of making stupid claims?


why don't you? with your stupid claims as well?







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Yomiyuki said:
deg said:


that is a good alternative solution to this conflict, especially if the rich middle east Gulf States takes all the Palestinians as well as getting all the muslim migrants that is going to Europe right now

i agree, deport all the migrants in europe to israel.


#OpenBordersforIsrael


ExecCute said:

Please. Israel is more welcoming to "Palestinians" than ANY other country in the middle east is, and you're in pure denial if you argue against that. Israel has a right to exist and they shouldn't bend over to people who want to destroy them.


Israel is an illegitimate occupying power that is controlled by people who literally believe anyone who isn't them is born to serve them and is the world's number one terrorist state.

That is why everyone hates them.
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I am just saying, (((they))) definitely don't want me to send Crusaders.

Jews fought side-by-side with Muslim soldiers to defend Jerusalem against the Crusaders.[4] Saint Louis University Professor Thomas F. Madden, author of A Concise History of the Crusades, claims the "Jewish Defenders" of the city knew the rules of warfare and retreated to their synagogue to "prepare for death" since the Crusaders had breached the outer walls.[5] According to the Muslim chronicle of Ibn al-Qalanisi, "The Jews assembled in their synagogue, and the Franks burned it over their heads."[6]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_the_Crusades
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dokidoki said:
ExecCute said:


Why don't you give me a citation instead of making stupid claims?


why don't you? with your stupid claims as well?


Because my claims don't sound batshit insane. Also why do you answer a question with a question?

Ag526 said:

Yomiyuki said:

i agree, deport all the migrants in europe to israel.


#OpenBordersforIsrael


ExecCute said:

Please. Israel is more welcoming to "Palestinians" than ANY other country in the middle east is, and you're in pure denial if you argue against that. Israel has a right to exist and they shouldn't bend over to people who want to destroy them.


Israel is an illegitimate occupying power that is controlled by people who literally believe anyone who isn't them is born to serve them and is the world's number one terrorist state.


Seriously go back to pol with your conspiracy theory bullshit.

Yomiyuki said:
deg said:


i thought conservatives like you love israel lol guess you are an exception to the rule

i don't mind some khazar qties like this every now and then



but i can't defend a state that regularly commits inhumane acts against it's non-native population, regularly makes their lives harder, and encourages my country into meddling with the middle east for no real purpose aside from the benefits it gives to israel.


If Palestinians had power they'd be 100x more cruel and would probably bulldoze every Christian and Jewish holy place located in Jerusalem. I mean, they're already cruel when they protest and that's just with rocks
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Yomiyuki said:

but i can't defend a state that regularly commits inhumane acts against it's non-native population, regularly makes their lives harder, and encourages my country into meddling with the middle east for no real purpose aside from the benefits it gives to israel.


isnt Israel a military strategic place for USA there in the middle east? so i doubt USA will give up on Israel that easily but if USA wants to give up the world police role then ye they will give up on Israel
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ExecCute said:
dokidoki said:


why don't you? with your stupid claims as well?


Because my claims don't sound batshit insane. Also why do you answer a question with a question?


Funny.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-israel-cleansing-palestinians-greater-jewish-jerusalem-800323791

Here's a long article if you can read.







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ExecCute said:


Seriously go back to pol with your conspiracy theory bullshit.
Yes, I am from /pol/ because I don't like a nation that forcibly sterilizes Blacks, has Eugenics and Concentration Camps, literaly created Hamas, stages False Flags, steals Billions of dollars from the USA, believes in Talmudic Judaism which is a religion literally based around the idea that its adherents are God's chosen and that everybody else (Goyim) are subhuman that don't deserve any rights, and not only that but also treats Samaritans, the people that the Woman from the Well that Jesus talked to in the Bible and also talked about int he Parable of the Samaritan, like shit.

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dokidoki said:
ExecCute said:


Because my claims don't sound batshit insane. Also why do you answer a question with a question?


Funny.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-israel-cleansing-palestinians-greater-jewish-jerusalem-800323791

Here's a long article if you can read.


I'll read that, but just to let you know that source is biased as hell lmao. I'd appreciate an article from a non biased news source

Ag526 said:
ExecCute said:


Seriously go back to pol with your conspiracy theory bullshit.
Yes, I am from /pol/ because I don't like a nation that forcibly sterilizes Blacks, has Eugenics and Concentration Camps, literaly created Hamas, stages False Flags, steals Billions of dollars from the USA, believes in Talmudic Judaism which is a religion literally based around the idea that its adherents are God's chosen and that everybody else (Goyim) are subhuman that don't deserve any rights, and not only that but also treats Samaritans, the people that the Woman from the Well that Jesus talked to in the Bible and also talked about int he Parable of the Samaritan, like shit.



Please go back to your echo chamber
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ExecCute said:
dokidoki said:


Google is free so do you research before you talk about Israel being "welcoming". Israel is guilty of Ethnic cleansing the country of Palestinians since 1940s but yeah of course they are welcoming with their guns and shit <333


Why don't you give me a citation instead of making stupid claims?

Yomiyuki said:

i'm not sure how to even respond, you are literally 10 seconds of googling from seeing how wrong you are when you think this situation is just israel defending itself against all their enemies.
they have undoubtedly confronted these kinds of problems horribly in almost every way imaginable, countless times.


So why would Israel just choose "Palestinians" to pick on for no reason at all? Why do they feel the need to defend themselves?

Yomiyuki said:

i agree, deport all the migrants in europe to israel.


LMAO go back to pol.

it's not so much picking on them, as it is their aggressive and tyrannical response to every small thing.

did you even read the article in the OP?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/23/palestinians-file-complaint-against-israel-under-anti-racism-treaty

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-soldiers-shoot-palestinian-unarmed-video-cheering-rubber-bullets-madama-nablus-a8321576.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/world/middleeast/gaza-protests-palestinians-us-embassy.html

it is hard to see who is the obvious good guy in this, but to ignore that israel has repeatedly used disproportionate force against palestine is ridiculous.
do you know how unarmed and helpless a lot of palestinians even are?

so do you want to defend military force against protestors, or is it justified?
and on what grounds do you justify all of this?

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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ExecCute said:
dokidoki said:


why don't you? with your stupid claims as well?


Because my claims don't sound batshit insane. Also why do you answer a question with a question?

Ag526 said:



#OpenBordersforIsrael




Israel is an illegitimate occupying power that is controlled by people who literally believe anyone who isn't them is born to serve them and is the world's number one terrorist state.


Seriously go back to pol with your conspiracy theory bullshit.

Yomiyuki said:

i don't mind some khazar qties like this every now and then



but i can't defend a state that regularly commits inhumane acts against it's non-native population, regularly makes their lives harder, and encourages my country into meddling with the middle east for no real purpose aside from the benefits it gives to israel.


If Palestinians had power they'd be 100x more cruel and would probably bulldoze every Christian and Jewish holy place located in Jerusalem. I mean, they're already cruel when they protest and that's just with rocks

so this is why you think what they're doing now to them is justified?

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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Yomiyuki said:

so this is why you think what they're doing now to them is justified?


When they don't understand that it's time to back off, then they need to learn the hard way.
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deg said:
Yomiyuki said:

but i can't defend a state that regularly commits inhumane acts against it's non-native population, regularly makes their lives harder, and encourages my country into meddling with the middle east for no real purpose aside from the benefits it gives to israel.


isnt Israel a military strategic place for USA there in the middle east? so i doubt USA will give up on Israel that easily but if USA wants to give up the world police role then ye they will give up on Israel

my over-simplified take on it is that it's just a bunch of weird cultish obsessions with zionism.
that and a bunch of deranged evangelicals that enable it.
this is why catholicism is the way.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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ExecCute said:
Yomiyuki said:

so this is why you think what they're doing now to them is justified?


When they don't understand that it's time to back off, then they need to learn the hard way.
again, i ask.
what is your rationale for them needing to "back off".
you are basically defending a displacement of a group of people based on one group's pseudo supremacist beliefs, and not just beliefs, but actions against the non-natives.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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ExecCute said:
dokidoki said:


Funny.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-israel-cleansing-palestinians-greater-jewish-jerusalem-800323791

Here's a long article if you can read.


I'll read that, but just to let you know that source is biased as hell lmao. I'd appreciate an article from a non biased news source


Since you don't own google here are more resources.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html
https://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-amps-up-ethnic-cleansing-in-order-to-further-judaize-jerusalem/5622596
http://english.wafa.ps/page.aspx?id=Wcow8ha96597218982aWcow8h

They are so welcoming :)







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Yomiyuki said:
ExecCute said:


When they don't understand that it's time to back off, then they need to learn the hard way.
again, i ask.
what is your rationale for them needing to "back off".
you are basically defending a displacement of a group of people based on one group's pseudo supremacist beliefs, and not just beliefs, but actions against the non-natives.


1. Land is ruled by those who conquer it. Look at Europe and the rest of the world.
2. Why won't other countries that they are also technically native to (Jordan, Egypt) accept them?
3. The current rulers are not supremacists and they treat all their citizens fairly, unlike every other middle eastern country.



Wow, you're a very civil debater.

Here you go.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/12/14/recognizing_jerusalem_as_israels_capital_is_recognizing_reality_135784.amp.html

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ExecCute said:
Yomiyuki said:
again, i ask.
what is your rationale for them needing to "back off".
you are basically defending a displacement of a group of people based on one group's pseudo supremacist beliefs, and not just beliefs, but actions against the non-natives.


1. Land is ruled by those who conquer it. Look at Europe and the rest of the world.
2. Why won't other countries that they are also technically native to (Jordan, Egypt) accept them?
3. The current rulers are not supremacists and they treat all their citizens fairly, unlike every other middle eastern country.

1. Land is ruled by those who conquer it. Look at Europe and the rest of the world.

so harassment and violence is justifiable against a non-native population?
2. Why won't other countries that they are also technically native to (Jordan, Egypt) accept them?

again, why should they be forced to leave to begin with.
3. The current rulers are not supremacists and they treat all their citizens fairly, unlike every other middle eastern country.

there are literally about 10 links in this thread that show you how unfairly they treat them, are you just not even going to bother reading them and keep saying that their violence is justifiable? based on what? because you think palestine would treat them 100x worse?
that makes it ok?

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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Yomiyuki said:

so harassment and violence is justifiable against a non-native population?

again, why should they be forced to leave to begin with.

there are literally about 10 links in this thread that show you how unfairly they treat them, are you just not even going to bother reading them and keep saying that their violence is justifiable? based on what? because you think palestine would treat them 100x worse?
that makes it ok?


1. I don't know, that kinda sounds like something you'd say is ok based on your opinion of refugees in europe...

2. I never said they should be forced to leave, but when they cause problems/civil disobedience they need to be stopped.

3. I've read them and I've already heard what the opposing side has to say. But I'm sticking to my opinion because I think it's right.
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dokidoki said:


Funny.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-israel-cleansing-palestinians-greater-jewish-jerusalem-800323791

Here's a long article if you can read.


I'll read that, but just to let you know that source is biased as hell lmao. I'd appreciate an article from a non biased news source

Ag526 said:
Yes, I am from /pol/ because I don't like a nation that forcibly sterilizes Blacks, has Eugenics and Concentration Camps, literaly created Hamas, stages False Flags, steals Billions of dollars from the USA, believes in Talmudic Judaism which is a religion literally based around the idea that its adherents are God's chosen and that everybody else (Goyim) are subhuman that don't deserve any rights, and not only that but also treats Samaritans, the people that the Woman from the Well that Jesus talked to in the Bible and also talked about int he Parable of the Samaritan, like shit.



Please go back to your echo chamber

https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/#25876ac467b8

They have Dor Yeshorim that tests couples for compatibility.

Dor Yeshorim's plan is that if everyone lodges DNA samples with them, they will be able to apply for a compatibility test any time they want to breed... Dor Yeshorim's will respond just with a rating, without disclosing details.

You date a girl and when relationship is getting serious, you both ask for a print of your compatibility, and hope it is good.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090926212507/http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident






While the Israeli Rabbinic authorities consider Samaritanism to be a branch of Judaism,[26] the Chief Rabbinate of Israel requires Samaritans to officially go through a formal conversion to Judaism in order to be recognized as Halakhic Jews.




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ExecCute said:
Yomiyuki said:

so harassment and violence is justifiable against a non-native population?

again, why should they be forced to leave to begin with.

there are literally about 10 links in this thread that show you how unfairly they treat them, are you just not even going to bother reading them and keep saying that their violence is justifiable? based on what? because you think palestine would treat them 100x worse?
that makes it ok?


1. I don't know, that kinda sounds like something you'd say is ok based on your opinion of refugees in europe...

2. I never said they should be forced to leave, but when they cause problems/civil disobedience they need to be stopped.

3. I've read them and I've already heard what the opposing side has to say. But I'm sticking to my opinion because I think it's right.

1. that's basically what you are arguing in favor of.
not me.
do i believe in violence and harassment of non-natives? no, that's not justifiable.
migrants in europe are a completely different issue than palestinians in israel.
on what grounds do migrants have a bigger right to stay in europe than palestinians do in israel?

2.what problems and civil disobedience, you can't expect me to work off of vague statements like that, you need to show me links and events, like people have been showing you, but you kind of just want to ignore them.

3. your opinions in this thread have basically been attempts to justify israeli military actions against palestinians, and justify the removal of a population from their otherwise birthplace, their homes.

you think you're right despite not refuting anything people have been telling you??

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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You are wrong. Israel does not require DNA testing to become a citizen.
http://www.israelhayom.com/2016/06/24/the-lie-behind-genetic-citizenship/

Yomiyuki said:
ExecCute said:


1. I don't know, that kinda sounds like something you'd say is ok based on your opinion of refugees in europe...

2. I never said they should be forced to leave, but when they cause problems/civil disobedience they need to be stopped.

3. I've read them and I've already heard what the opposing side has to say. But I'm sticking to my opinion because I think it's right.

1. that's basically what you are arguing in favor of.
not me.
do i believe in violence and harassment of non-natives? no, that's not justifiable.
migrants in europe are a completely different issue than palestinians in israel.
on what grounds do migrants have a bigger right to stay in europe than palestinians do in israel?

2.what problems and civil disobedience, you can't expect me to work off of vague statements like that, you need to show me links and events, like people have been showing you, but you kind of just want to ignore them.

3. your opinions in this thread have basically been attempts to justify israeli military actions against palestinians, and justify the removal of a population from their otherwise birthplace, their homes.

you think you're right despite not refuting anything people have been telling you??


1. I'm not arguing in favor of it, and you're the one who brought up europe's migrants first. See

Yomiyuki said:
deg said:


that is a good alternative solution to this conflict, especially if the rich middle east Gulf States takes all the Palestinians as well as getting all the muslim migrants that is going to Europe right now

i agree, deport all the migrants in europe to israel.


2. Look at the most recent protests.

3. Nah, I just believe that Israel has a right to exist and people need to leave them alone.
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Stop protesting about the aggression Israel has done toward Palestinians? How about the civilian casualties? This is not just a war; this is occupation, a war of aggression against the Palestinian sovereignty.

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You are wrong. Israel does not require DNA testing to become a citizen.
http://www.israelhayom.com/2016/06/24/the-lie-behind-genetic-citizenship/
.
Nice Source you got there
2008 study by Moran Rada published in The Seventh Eye showed that while competing newspapers' coverage of Benjamin Netanyahu was "not especially fair," Israel Hayom's coverage was biased in favor of Netanyahu in most editorial decisions, that the paper chooses to play down events that don't help to promote a positive image for Netanyahu, while on the other hand, touting and inflating events that help promote Netanyahu and the Likud.
Journalist Ben-Dror Yemini has described the paper as "endless capital with a political agenda."
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Ag526 said:
ExecCute said:


You are wrong. Israel does not require DNA testing to become a citizen.
http://www.israelhayom.com/2016/06/24/the-lie-behind-genetic-citizenship/
.
Nice Source you got there
2008 study by Moran Rada published in The Seventh Eye showed that while competing newspapers' coverage of Benjamin Netanyahu was "not especially fair," Israel Hayom's coverage was biased in favor of Netanyahu in most editorial decisions, that the paper chooses to play down events that don't help to promote a positive image for Netanyahu, while on the other hand, touting and inflating events that help promote Netanyahu and the Likud.
Journalist Ben-Dror Yemini has described the paper as "endless capital with a political agenda."


like your pol sources are better
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ExecCute said:


You are wrong. Israel does not require DNA testing to become a citizen.
http://www.israelhayom.com/2016/06/24/the-lie-behind-genetic-citizenship/

Yomiyuki said:

1. that's basically what you are arguing in favor of.
not me.
do i believe in violence and harassment of non-natives? no, that's not justifiable.
migrants in europe are a completely different issue than palestinians in israel.
on what grounds do migrants have a bigger right to stay in europe than palestinians do in israel?

2.what problems and civil disobedience, you can't expect me to work off of vague statements like that, you need to show me links and events, like people have been showing you, but you kind of just want to ignore them.

3. your opinions in this thread have basically been attempts to justify israeli military actions against palestinians, and justify the removal of a population from their otherwise birthplace, their homes.

you think you're right despite not refuting anything people have been telling you??


1. I'm not arguing in favor of it, and you're the one who brough up europe's migrants first. See

Yomiyuki said:

i agree, deport all the migrants in europe to israel.


2. Look at the most recent protests.

3. Nah, I just believe that Israel has a right to exist and people need to leave them alone.

1. it was a joke in a conversation not involving you...
i don't see how that is relevant to what i was saying to you in this conversation.

2.again, the protest where israel used military force, killed 41 palestinians and injured 2000. but you think this is somehow justifiable despite unarmed palestinians' threat to israel's armed military, being so minuscule.

your stance of "just leave them alone" is just so ignorant of the realities of this situation.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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Ag526 said:
Nice Source you got there


like your pol sources are better
I didn't know that /pol/ owned Forbes, Wall Street Journal, and Wikipedia.

Learn something new everyday.
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Yomiyuki said:

1. it was a joke in a conversation not involving you...
i don't see how that is relevant to what i was saying to you in this conversation.

2.again, the protest where israel used military force, killed 41 palestinians and injured 2000. but you think this is somehow justifiable despite unarmed palestinians' threat to israel's armed military, being so minuscule.

your stance of "just leave them alone" is just so ignorant of the realities of this situation.


1. Yeah, let's pass it off as a joke
2. Do you expect israeli soldiers to turn the other cheek when their citizens are being attacked by "palestinians"?
3. k.

Ag526 said:
ExecCute said:


like your pol sources are better
I didn't know that /pol/ owned Forbes, Wall Street Journal, and Wikipedia.

Learn something new everyday.


You literally cherry pick words out of those sources to make your case sound true.
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