Sword Art Online Alternative Gun Gale Online (light novel)
| I really enjoy SAO and find it kind of funny how the same people that bash the series are planning on watching this. If you didn’t like the 1st season, didn’t like the 2nd season, didn’t like the OVA, and didn’t like the movie what makes you think you’re going to like SAO Alternative? It’s set in GGO the same setting that everyone thought was dumb in the 2nd season. I don’t get it, why waste so much of your time watching a franchise you hate? “Because Kirito isn’t the protagonist” is not acceptable. I wouldn’t watch the spin-off of a series that I didn’t like. |
Reshiram_IXMar 27, 2018 10:21 AM
| Different cast, different characters, different studio.. just the idea is the same.. people who didn't like SAO can give it a try, because there is a chance they'll like it regardless |
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FinNote said: Different cast, different characters, different studio.. just the idea is the same.. people who didn't like SAO can give it a try, because there is a chance they'll like it regardless So is this completely separate from SAO other than being the same genre? |
Atrassius said: FinNote said: Different cast, different characters, different studio.. just the idea is the same.. people who didn't like SAO can give it a try, because there is a chance they'll like it regardless So is this completely separate from SAO other than being the same genre? It's a spin-off.. so pretty much. But it'll have the same elements |
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DurangaVoe said: Even so, it’s still Sword Art Online. It’s set in GGO, the setting that no one liked. Can’t see any reason why people would enjoy this anymore than the original. If you ask me people just want to use this series to belittle the original.1. It's not written by Reki Kawahara, but by Keiichi Sigsawa, who's also written Kino no Tabi, which's 2003 adaptation was pretty neat (and, most importantly, competently written). 2. Completely different cast of characters. 3. Animation is not done by A-1 Pictures, but by Studio 3Hz, that did some really good stuff recently (Flip Flappers, Princess Principal). Like only reason why this is related to SAO universe is that it is set in GGO. I believe this will be more popular among people who don't generally like SAO rather than among SAO fans. |
lmaonade200 said: Sure it might have been done by a different studio and writer, but that doesn’t seem like a viable reason to go out of your way to watch a side story to a franchise you don’t like. If you tried wine and didn’t like it, you wouldn’t go out of your way to try all the different kinds of bottles would you? I mean come on, you either liked SAO or you didn’t. There’s no middle ground. You wouldn’t play all the games in a franchise if you didn’t like the first game you tried. Stop kidding yourselves.Reshiram_IX said: Even so, it’s still Sword Art Online. It’s set in GGO, the setting that no one liked. Can’t see any reason why people would enjoy this anymore than the original. If you ask me people just want to use this series to belittle the original. Because there's the concept of the execution of a premise being more important than the premise itself. A show about daily lives of cucumbers sounds fucking stupid but can be done really well, execution matters. And to the thread at large, this show is it's own entity despite sharing a name with another. Why wouldn't I give it a chance if I found something appealing about it? That something for me is the studio in charge, I liked Flip Flappers, so whether this show is called Sword Art Online or Shit Box Online doesn't really matter. |
| SAO without the edge lord gary stu instantly catches my attention. Ill drop this pretty quick if this MC turns out to be female Kirito but with different writers, I have hope for this spin off. |
| Nope. Let's be honest. The only anime that would improve with Kirito in it would be Shinmai Maou no Testament or anything of that sort. You put Kirito in FMA: Brotherhood and it would become one of the trashiest anime ever. To make the cool story a bro, since mudkipz are keeping Kirito out of this one that alone would be a huge improvement unless this one is as bad as Shinmai Maou. |
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| sao was cool loved the concept and the art and animation was sweet i did feel that asuna and kirito where pretty generic but that's no reason to disregard the rest of it :D |
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| i dropped SAO very early so no comments on how bad it is bc i havent seen enough of it and don't plan to since this is like a brand new one with different characters and a different studio (i honestly dont fuck with A-1 despite trying their stuff out over and over again. although i've found some shows i've enjoyed) i'll try it out |
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Reshiram_IX said: lmaonade200 said: Sure it might have been done by a different studio and writer, but that doesn’t seem like a viable reason to go out of your way to watch a side story to a franchise you don’t like. If you tried wine and didn’t like it, you wouldn’t go out of your way to try all the different kinds of bottles would you? I mean come on, you either liked SAO or you didn’t. There’s no middle ground. You wouldn’t play all the games in a franchise if you didn’t like the first game you tried. Stop kidding yourselves.Because there's the concept of the execution of a premise being more important than the premise itself. A show about daily lives of cucumbers sounds fucking stupid but can be done really well, execution matters. And to the thread at large, this show is it's own entity despite sharing a name with another. Why wouldn't I give it a chance if I found something appealing about it? That something for me is the studio in charge, I liked Flip Flappers, so whether this show is called Sword Art Online or Shit Box Online doesn't really matter. Because I am an otaku and I watch everything. |
Reshiram_IX said: “Because Kirito isn’t the protagonist” There's my answer. |
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| I don't understand how it's so difficult to grasp the concept that people who hated SAO (like me) might be interested in this (like me). SAO had a good concept and good first few episodes. This shares nothing with SAO other than that concept, which means there's no inherent reason to believe it will implode on itself like SAO did. So, what makes me think I'll like this? A good setting and a more promising writer. “Because Kirito isn’t the protagonist” is a perfectly valid reason, as well. |
| I've seen what happens with SAO under a different writing team with creative ideas by just keeping the concept and re-doing almost everything else. It's called Sword Art Online Abridged by Something Witty Entertainment. And it is a phenomenally awesome story. Yes, story. It has a great underlying plot on top of its comedy. And I happen to enjoy the idea they went with in Mother's Rosario with the new temporary MC who has her own reasons for loving and playing the game. Both her and Abridged Kirito have issues that crucially intertwine their story (and, with Abridged Kirito, character development) with the video game they're playing. So why not? |
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Florete said: Yet it’s set in GGO and not Aincrad which had the interesting concept. This series has no tension. There’s no sense of life and death like the first few episodes of SAO.I don't understand how it's so difficult to grasp the concept that people who hated SAO (like me) might be interested in this (like me). SAO had a good concept and good first few episodes. This shares nothing with SAO other than that concept, which means there's no inherent reason to believe it will implode on itself like SAO did. So, what makes me think I'll like this? A good setting and a more promising writer. “Because Kirito isn’t the protagonist” is a perfectly valid reason, as well. |
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Reshiram_IX said: Florete said: Yet it’s set in GGO and not Aincrad which had the interesting concept. This series has no tension. There’s no sense of life and death like the first few episodes of SAO.I don't understand how it's so difficult to grasp the concept that people who hated SAO (like me) might be interested in this (like me). SAO had a good concept and good first few episodes. This shares nothing with SAO other than that concept, which means there's no inherent reason to believe it will implode on itself like SAO did. So, what makes me think I'll like this? A good setting and a more promising writer. “Because Kirito isn’t the protagonist” is a perfectly valid reason, as well. Now you're just fishing. But I honestly kind of expected from your first post, so no surprise. |
Atrassius said: FinNote said: Different cast, different characters, different studio.. just the idea is the same.. people who didn't like SAO can give it a try, because there is a chance they'll like it regardless So is this completely separate from SAO other than being the same genre? It's not even the same genre. SAO is adventure with a mix of mystery, romance and action. SAO:A:GGO:SJ is all-out gunslinger action where people shoot each other because they can. Reshiram_IX said: DurangaVoe said: Even so, it’s still Sword Art Online. It’s set in GGO, the setting that no one liked. Can’t see any reason why people would enjoy this anymore than the original. If you ask me people just want to use this series to belittle the original.1. It's not written by Reki Kawahara, but by Keiichi Sigsawa, who's also written Kino no Tabi, which's 2003 adaptation was pretty neat (and, most importantly, competently written). 2. Completely different cast of characters. 3. Animation is not done by A-1 Pictures, but by Studio 3Hz, that did some really good stuff recently (Flip Flappers, Princess Principal). Like only reason why this is related to SAO universe is that it is set in GGO. I believe this will be more popular among people who don't generally like SAO rather than among SAO fans. People who didn't like GGO must have no eyes for settings. It's actually pretty neat and has a lot of potential as a game. It's kind of like Fallout, but MMO and not so hopeless. Also, Keiichi Sigsawa did like the setting, and that means something. |
Florete said: Reshiram_IX said: Yet it’s set in GGO and not Aincrad which had the interesting concept. This series has no tension. There’s no sense of life and death like the first few episodes of SAO. Now you're just fishing. But I honestly kind of expected from your first post, so no surprise. Yeah, I’m fishing XD. I just want the sheep to admit they like SAO. Not saying you’re one of them or anything. |
WaddleBuff said: this isn't SAO tho. Pretty much this. They could just change title and nobody would notice, other than maybe few comments that "game looks similar to GGO". People bitch about something just because it's called SAO, without knowing what it actually is. Talk about bandwagon lol. |
| Because the spin-off looks better than the actual main series itself. I wish it could be like Log Horizon though |
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| You do well to realise that most people are actually OK with the premise of SAO, it's just that certain aspects of it were bad enough that it made it offputting. Why do I watch it? Because SAO's original cast is my primary issue with it. This is practically a different story. |
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JudoJD said: Thanks for sharing this. I just might find a closed group.If you take anyone still hating on SAO seriously....lol We all know it's just a simple minded hate mob... It doesn't affect the series success in any way shape or form So let them be salty about it's existence.. OK..main issue I have with all the SAO haters is my goodness..they're such jerks.. I'm in a group where some guy just said he enjoyed this first episode.. He got a tonne of insults for having "trash taste" and sth sth "watch more anime blah blah" ...then they all say "criticism" like.... Lol ...all of us know they're just plain overblown hate comments (it was freaking essay telling him how dumb he was and had truck run over his head when he was a kid if he actually enjoyed a freaking Japanese cartoon) Actual discussion stops when they're around or in an open forum on a site like this where they can troll so just find a closed group or something where people are chill and you can actually have a constructive discussion...without trolls |
Reshiram_IX said: I really enjoy SAO and find it kind of funny how the same people that bash the series are planning on watching this. If you didn’t like the 1st season, didn’t like the 2nd season, didn’t like the OVA, and didn’t like the movie what makes you think you’re going to like SAO Alternative? It’s set in GGO the same setting that everyone thought was dumb in the 2nd season. I don’t get it, why waste so much of your time watching a franchise you hate? “Because Kirito isn’t the protagonist” is not acceptable. I wouldn’t watch the spin-off of a series that I didn’t like. I'm not a mega-SAO fan, but I liked it enough for 8/10. I will say that GGO was my favorite setting in the SAO franchise, so this show has been a blessing for me this season. Love it so far! |
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| If kirito wasn't a thing I would've rated SAO a solid 7 instead of a 1. Reki Kawahara's writing was very... questionable to say the least Now that neither are involved, I have a reason to "waste my time" (and I have a feeling this ones gonna be pretty good) |
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JudoJD said: Most comprehensive post I’ve seen in awhileDaniel_Naumov said: Called critique. You do not have to like a crap to be able to discern it from decent things (art) and to get angry for people to keep producing it. You criticize it, in hopes for either others to see it for what it truly is, or in hopes for it to become better. I appreciate the premise and the philosophy of the series, BUT THIS IS A RIP OFF TO MAKE EASY MONEY OUT OF PITIFUL ADOLESCENT FANBASE CONSUMING EVERYTHING LABELED "SAO"! And that makes me angery, probably my mine concern with the SAO universe. That said, I will see this series because I shamelessly admit adore tall girls, AND most importantly to see whether this is devoid of value (as any consumeric rip-off would be, in theory), or if they did their best to provide original quality of SAO even in a "spin-off". Hehe... Slight issue with pretentious statements like these .. ..after spending some time with anime you'll realise that in reality noone's opinion actually matters (moreso if you're not Japanese or contacting the creators).. If anyone actually had intentions of making anything better they'd go directly to the creator's social media pages and voice their concerns there instead of being on some random internet forum they don't give a damn about acting all high and mighty.. I straight up sent a message to the director of Re:Creators and got a reply (in Japanese though like.. Lol...anyways) ...also got a response from one of the singers in the Openings (Gemie) and the management of Sangantsu no Phantasia who performed the second ED ...if someone random like me can do it I don't see what stopping a mob of "critics" from using common sense and doing so as well besides just trolling ? When tokyo ghoul fans have issues with what happened in the manga they straight up blow up Ishida's twitter and the poor man finds himself trending...woiye XD (as dumb as those issues may be...we're talking really dumb here at times lol) The creator of SAO isn't a snub to legitimate criticism.. He himself criticizes his own work to the point of rewriting the story from the start already (ow I forgot...noone plainly hating on the franchise actually checks in on the source material so they didn't notice most stuff still being said is just unoriginal outdated repetition in 2018 ) but artwise the fact something can have this much of an impact to the point where people who HATE it with a passion spend their money to buy a ticket to go watch the movie , watch a spin-off and are still gonna be there in fall when season 3 airs...and still watch the whole thing while keeping talk about it relevant for half a decade when they apparently can't stand it speaks volumes on something... ...there's some level of genius hidden in plain sight here that just keeps drawing people back no matter how hard they try while shows they apparently think are good fade from existence so fast... Even people saying they couldn't bear watching the first episode of this still say stuff about things that went on throughout the entirety of the episode XD Lol though.... Seriously... "others seeing it for what it truly is" AKA "the thought of someone having a different opinion to mine is just.. bleh..how the hell is someone else having a different view on this besides how I, in my subjectivity, see it?? How dare they??? Fools. My opinion shall show dem de way...my opinion clearly matters upupu " Lol..did you just say this is a rip off though?...in caps XD... I mean....😂.. Sure buddy.. I don't expect more but still...This is where we are now? OK... You clearly know what you're talking about ..don't mind me... Criticize away XD |
| I wasn't gonna bother but I decided to on a whim. I dunno, this has a different feel to it so far, no impending threat like the original SAO, and it's cute this girl has a height complex so much that she insisted on making random characters for different mmo games till she got the one she wanted. Not that things wont change once a few more episodes roll in but I like this alot more than I liked the original SAO. |
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Reshiram_IX said: I really enjoy SAO and find it kind of funny how the same people that bash the series are planning on watching this. If you didn’t like the 1st season, didn’t like the 2nd season, didn’t like the OVA, and didn’t like the movie what makes you think you’re going to like SAO Alternative? It’s set in GGO the same setting that everyone thought was dumb in the 2nd season. I don’t get it, why waste so much of your time watching a franchise you hate? “Because Kirito isn’t the protagonist” is not acceptable. I wouldn’t watch the spin-off of a series that I didn’t like. It's because deep down they do like it, but they're too scared to admit it because of overwhelming controversy. What did you expect from anime with the biggest hate bandwagon on myanimelist? People are easily brainwashed and this proves it. I mean look at the ratings of SAO now, it's rated below some ridiculous shows and even porn. Just shows you people are conformist wimps. |
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