| I’ve always supported immigration. I want a future where the entire world is collaborating and at peace. Something has been on my mind lately though. Some conservatives argue that allowing immigration is like buying off the most educated people from a poor country and puting them in a rich country. This could stunt the progress of the third world. What do you think? |
| Sure, it's called "brain drain". This is one of the reasons why I support a very limited amount of immigration. "Merit based" immigration also displaces the upper/middle class of your own society. For example, Indian immigrants to the US who end up taking tech jobs and massively undermining wages in those industries. |
| Very interesting topic indeed! Tapertrain said: Some conservatives argue that allowing immigration is like buying off the most educated people from a poor country and puting them in a rich country. This could stunt the progress of the third world. You have made a very accurate and a good point there! Yes, a lot of smart people from third world are coming to more developed nations and you could say that it's like buying it off from a less developed country. However, why do you think those educated and intellectual people from less wealthier nation decides to move out of their country in their own free to a more developed country? Ofc its because of better living standard and all but it's mainly because of the government of the less developed nation. They may not have the adequate money to build enough schools or improve education for everyone. Some underdeveloped nation's government can be corrupted too and they may not care as much for their own people. These are just few basic points and the lists goes on why people may want to move out of their own country. This may not be the case for every country. Some countries to do get out of their slump and do improve economically. A great example would be China. Just take a look how much China has developed over the past 20-30 years. Smart people still stay in China but also the countries wouldn't have developed as fast without those people as well. So immigration isn't really the main point to blame but the government is the main factor as to why people move out of their own country. Ehhh I know I made some really weak points, I will come back to edit it later when I have time. |
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| I doubt many people would want to stay in a country where 4 years of University education reward you with 400$ monthly salary and 1% increase for every year on the job (and 0.2% for every year of experience) just for the sake that after 50 years things may be 10% better than they are now. |
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| In the century we live, immigration is a fairly common act. Some people associate with another type of population, climate, lifestyle, and the list can continue. It seems to me that immigration is quite important and, frankly, it is a way of evolving this world. It is interesting to say "Some conservatives argue that allowing immigration is like buying the most educated people from a poor country and putting them in a rich country." But then we should ask ourselves: "What will happen to that country? ". It will get destroyed a little bit if it remains independent. Opinions about this topic may vary. |
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| It hurts for the reasons already mentioned, but it doesn't hurt any more than those countries hurt themselves. There's no shortage of brainpower in most third world countries; the issue is the lack of venues and opportunities for those brains to be applied. It's a brain drain against a brain grave; which you'd rather have is up to you. |
149597871 said: I doubt many people would want to stay in a country where 4 years of University education reward you with 400$ monthly salary and 1% increase for every year on the job (and 0.2% for every year of experience) just for the sake that after 50 years things may be 10% better than they are now. The West had to go through that, and if the Third World doesn't, it will always stay Third World. |
there is no honest reason to support mass immigration. even limited immigration is to be discouraged at this point because countries have already taken in way too many people already. |
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| "Some underdeveloped nation's government can be corrupted too and they may not care as much for their own people." - post#3 I strongly agree. |
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g1t_pL1ED said: Very interesting topic indeed! Tapertrain said: Some conservatives argue that allowing immigration is like buying off the most educated people from a poor country and puting them in a rich country. This could stunt the progress of the third world. You have made a very accurate and a good point there! Yes, a lot of smart people from third world are coming to more developed nations and you could say that it's like buying it off from a less developed country. However, why do you think those educated and intellectual people from less wealthier nation decides to move out of their country in their own free to a more developed country? Ofc its because of better living standard and all but it's mainly because of the government of the less developed nation. They may not have the adequate money to build enough schools or improve education for everyone. Some underdeveloped nation's government can be corrupted too and they may not care as much for their own people. These are just few basic points and the lists goes on why people may want to move out of their own country. This may not be the case for every country. Some countries to do get out of their slump and do improve economically. A great example would be China. Just take a look how much China has developed over the past 20-30 years. Smart people still stay in China but also the countries wouldn't have developed as fast without those people as well. So immigration isn't really the main point to blame but the government is the main factor as to why people move out of their own country. Ehhh I know I made some really weak points, I will come back to edit it later when I have time. Whatever you said I think you're right. An educated person from a third world country may just be looking for opportunity, because for whatever reason they're not getting it in their home country. Take Venezuela for example; its well educated population is leaving in droves because the country is going to shit, and it's not like forcing them to stay will make things any better. There is no opportunity in Venezuela. |
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Tapertrain said: Some conservatives argue that allowing immigration is like buying off the most educated people from a poor country and puting them in a rich country. This could stunt the progress of the third world. Which is bad because? It's certainly better for them to have opportunities that will bring out their fullest potential. And those people want to live a life they deserve and rightfully so. |
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Orhunaa said: Tapertrain said: Some conservatives argue that allowing immigration is like buying off the most educated people from a poor country and puting them in a rich country. This could stunt the progress of the third world. Which is bad because? It's certainly better for them to have opportunities that will bring out their fullest potential. And those people want to live a life they deserve and rightfully so. It's "bad" for their respective home country. There is no way third world countries are going to develop if their educated population just leave. That being said countries with brain drain have a lot more underlying problems, so who's to say an educated person would do any good staying there. |
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-Krouton- said: Orhunaa said: Which is bad because? It's certainly better for them to have opportunities that will bring out their fullest potential. And those people want to live a life they deserve and rightfully so. so who's to say an educated person would do any good staying there. I was impyling this to my point as well. I thought it goes without saying that these said countries won't be able to make use of them the state they're in. |
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Yomiyuki said: there is no honest reason to support mass immigration. even limited immigration is to be discouraged at this point because countries have already taken in way too many people already. Was going to post this. immigration doesn't fix sh*t. |
149597871 said: I doubt many people would want to stay in a country where 4 years of University education reward you with 400$ monthly salary and 1% increase for every year on the job (and 0.2% for every year of experience) just for the sake that after 50 years things may be 10% better than they are now. and that's why I'm so morally confused. |
| yep. in guyana, the average worker can expect to farm animals, plant rice, grow sugarcane, drive taxis, own a small shop, or do repair work. the first 3 are dying businesses. in america, the average guyanese are social workers, doctors, nurses, computer scientists, lawyers/tax preparers, home health care aids, mechanics, and entertainers. the last two are dying businesses. |
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| Depends on the scale of it actually. I think living conditions need to be improved around the world so people don't have as much reasons to leave and for each one that does another will want to move there. Thus is the ideal goal. |
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| I don't think people from the countries that receive incredibly capable people are complaining, generally it's when they are taking in immigrants that don't really have such capabilities that is the problem. However with regards to brain drain, it has been happening. For example freedom of movement in the EU has resulted a lot of brain drain from Eastern Europe, because those that are able to move to the richer Western Europe. I don't think it's a conservative talking point, because what I hear from conservatives has always been about welcoming the most qualified individuals regardless of their ethnicity. In general I don't think brain drain is a politicised issue, I think most groups in the receiving countries are happy and most groups in countries experiencing brain drain are concerned about it. As for whether it will stunt the growth of developing nations, of course it will! But the question is what solution is there to this? |
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Nyu said: 149597871 said: I doubt many people would want to stay in a country where 4 years of University education reward you with 400$ monthly salary and 1% increase for every year on the job (and 0.2% for every year of experience) just for the sake that after 50 years things may be 10% better than they are now. The West had to go through that, and if the Third World doesn't, it will always stay Third World. The saddest part is that I wasn't even speaking about the Third World |
| I believe it does not hurt the modern world if done in controlled amounts. |
isekai said: ye this brain drain argument is nothing new but its not the reality for example look at here in the philippines a lot of our workers are working overseas and it helps our economy through tax remittances, heck one of our long time senator here says this 'Our biggest export is OFWs. That's why I'm against RH bill' (RH Law is a population control measure here) https://www.rappler.com/nation/16987-enrile-our-biggest-export-is-ofws-that-s-why-im-against-rh-bill although a lot of filipinos even the overseas workers criticize him for that lol actual numbers of economic impact in 2011 we got at least 21 billion US dollars from overseas workers remittances and when converted to peso (our money) then thats 1 trillion pesos and compared that to the yearly national budget of 2-3 trillion pesos you can see its a great source of money for the government here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Filipinos#Economic_impact P3 trillion: PH's biggest nat'l budget submitted to Congress https://www.rappler.com/nation/100779-philippines-national-budget-2016 i say capitalism is not really a total zero sum game so even if there is a brain drain the disadvantage country still get benefit from tax remittances and then the government can pay for more better education to create the next brain power here and also create more local jobs Thank you It’s Interesting hearing your perspective. I’m more optimistic now. |
| @Tapertrain If you want peace, you DON'T support immigration. It kills the future of the country people emigrate from too. |
isekai said: no problemo, the important word is remittances when you want to counter the brain drain argument, remittance is a transfer of money by a foreign worker to an individual in his or her home country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remittance thats the economic counter argument but as for cultural/social argument that is much harder to defend especially if its something like islam that is too conservative that can cause cultural conflict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_conflict you have to be kidding. your argument in support of immigration is money leaving the host nation.... |
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Thanakos said: It hurts for the reasons already mentioned, but it doesn't hurt any more than those countries hurt themselves. There's no shortage of brainpower in most third world countries; the issue is the lack of venues and opportunities for those brains to be applied. It's a brain drain against a brain grave; which you'd rather have is up to you. this ^ many "third" world countries are run by dictatorships with no concept of freedom of expression or free will. people need to realize that the reason people from third world countries move is because their living conditions are bad. if you remove the reason for bad living conditions you have less immigration. which is why it can be beneficial for first world countries to help third world countries if you want to know why look up a video called Egoistic Altruism. (however we haven't been doing much helping,) |
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isekai said: Yomiyuki said: you have to be kidding. your argument in support of immigration is money leaving the host nation.... no, both countries will gain economic boost since immigrant workers are part of free trade too an economic boost that doesn't serve the people for the most part aside from cheap goods. rather, immigration has basically just been a means to undercut native workers and wages. and enabling what basically amounts to slave labor for the past 30 or so years. but sure, at least india gets those tax remittances, right? it's like countries aren't finite to you people, you think they can just add on more and more people into job markets, markets where employers and businesses already have a lot of liberty to undermine workers, yet you defend bringing in people who are more vulnerable to this abuse? come the fuck on. |
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isekai said: ye this brain drain argument is nothing new but its not the reality for example look at here in the philippines a lot of our workers are working overseas and it helps our economy through tax remittances, heck one of our long time senator here says this 'Our biggest export is OFWs. That's why I'm against RH bill' (RH Law is a population control measure here) https://www.rappler.com/nation/16987-enrile-our-biggest-export-is-ofws-that-s-why-im-against-rh-bill although a lot of filipinos even the overseas workers criticize him for that lol actual numbers of economic impact in 2011 we got at least 21 billion US dollars from overseas workers remittances and when converted to peso (our money) then thats 1 trillion pesos and compared that to the yearly national budget of 2-3 trillion pesos you can see its a great source of money for the government here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Filipinos#Economic_impact P3 trillion: PH's biggest nat'l budget submitted to Congress https://www.rappler.com/nation/100779-philippines-national-budget-2016 i say capitalism is not really a total zero sum game so even if there is a brain drain the disadvantage country still get benefit from tax remittances and then the government can pay for more better education to create the next brain power here and also create more local jobs Tax remittances... so just sending money back. That's not the same as having smart people actually building up your country and economy. Also, not that Mexico is sending their best, but they rely heavily on tax remittances, and they could get fucked at any time if the US shuts that down. It's not good to be so reliant on money coming in from abroad. Brain drain is an irrefutable argument. Also, watch the video that Yomiyuki posted. |
isekai said: @Yomiyuki @Polarc blame capitalism then since its goal is to maximize profit while minimizing cost thats why you will see cheap labor (capitalism likes experts for cheap), capitalism likes free trade a lot and that includes free trade of (cheap) workers too in order to maximize profit this video explains it better than i can what you seem to want to do, is to shift blame onto something that you vehemently do dislike instead of acknowledging the problems of immigration, something you support. does capitalism have it's problems? yes. is immigration then meant to be ignored, because capitalism can enable it? no. you sound like people whose first reaction on hearing about immigrant rape gangs is to say "it doesn't matter, because white people rape too." do you know how immigration would work then in a socialist place, where the government hands you everything? where the consequences for failing, like leaving back to your original country for example, doesn't exist? |
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| It's pretty self-evident so far that those who can leave a Third World country, will. This could be both the intelligent and gifted, as well as the poor and destitute. All this seems to perpetuate in that country is the idea that problems do not need to be fixed. Life in that country does not need to be fought for, or improved through hard work. This isn't to say it's the fault of the people, but rather, the fault of the rulers/controllers of those nations who have created seats of power from which they cannot be removed to instill this change and growth. |
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hazarddex said: There are a lot of so called "third world countries" in Latin America, the Pacific, the Caribbean, South Asia, Africa that do have democratic governments where there are elections , voting and different leaders come to power. Even in the Middle East (outside the Gulf countries) a lot of dictators were overthrown during the Arab Spring. Dictatorships are more common in the former 2nd world like China, Russia, North Korea, some Central Asian countries.many "third" world countries are run by dictatorships with no concept of freedom of expression or free will. |
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| People have the right to go where they want, the bigger problem is imperialism. There wouldn't be a reason for people to flee their country if imperialist nations like the US, UK, France, etc weren't extracting resources from poorer nations (which are poorer BECAUSE OF IMPERIALISM) for their own gain. There also wouldn't be a distinction between rich and poor (and therefore people who are more-able and less-able to leave) if capitalism and class society were abolished or in the process of being abolished. |
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| I'm for global interconnectivity (but racism and terrorism is still a thing) but I dislike immigration, because it only delays growth in the home country particularly if it is the specialized group that are leaving, and sometimes breeds more racism because of the jobs they gain in other countries. |
isekai said: ye this brain drain argument is nothing new but its not the reality for example look at here in the philippines a lot of our workers are working overseas and it helps our economy through tax remittances, heck one of our long time senator here says this 'Our biggest export is OFWs. That's why I'm against RH bill' (RH Law is a population control measure here) https://www.rappler.com/nation/16987-enrile-our-biggest-export-is-ofws-that-s-why-im-against-rh-bill although a lot of filipinos even the overseas workers criticize him for that lol actual numbers of economic impact in 2011 we got at least 21 billion US dollars from overseas workers remittances and when converted to peso (our money) then thats 1 trillion pesos and compared that to the yearly national budget of 2-3 trillion pesos you can see its a great source of money for the government here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Filipinos#Economic_impact P3 trillion: PH's biggest nat'l budget submitted to Congress https://www.rappler.com/nation/100779-philippines-national-budget-2016 i say capitalism is not really a total zero sum game so even if there is a brain drain the disadvantage country still get benefit from tax remittances and then the government can pay for more better education to create the next brain power here and also create more local jobs I'm on the other side of the fence in this case. We are losing a lot of edge because of specialized personnel leaving the country. While remittances are good, it is a band-aid solution because it can fluctuate depending on the world economy and neither is it a long term solution. Case in point: we are a tropical country that sits in a sweet spot for agricultural, energy and seafaring advancement(I had a talk with a Nordic visitor who thought it strange that for an archipelagic country we lack any capable shipbuilding industry nor any high ranking crew) among others and yet we lag behind our neighbors in a lot of those areas. |
isekai said: Polarc said: @isekai Yes, the GOP does want to continue immigration so they can continue to secure cheap labor for their donors and undermine the American worker. I appreciate you wishing us luck on stopping these people. immigration is great for USA economy, i will just leave this here god fucking damn it man you've been told multiple times in this thread why immigration is bad, and you ignored it everytime. we get it, you just don't want to agree for whatever reason and stick with your beliefs, but shoving these videos as if they prove any point aside from regurgitating partisan talking points while disregarding all the negatives is so disingenuous, come on. just admit you don't agree and nothing we can say will change your mind. |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
isekai said: Brb said: I'm on the other side of the fence in this case. We are losing a lot of edge because of specialized personnel leaving the country. While remittances are good, it is a band-aid solution because it can fluctuate depending on the world economy and neither is it a long term solution. Case in point: we are a tropical country that sits in a sweet spot for agricultural, energy and seafaring advancement(I had a talk with a Nordic visitor who thought it strange that for an archipelagic country we lack any capable shipbuilding industry nor any high ranking crew) among others and yet we lag behind our neighbors in a lot of those areas. its more like a failure of past government to make solutions or proper economic actions Arroyo and Aquino presidency improve our economic status if you are hearing news and you will hear every year of record breaking government budget (its up to 3 trillion plus pesos now) that indicates the economy of this poor country is improving and its largely thanks to remittances from overseas filipino workers now that economic growth should become inclusive growth and with better education like K-12 and the senate gonna tackle improving the education more from what i heard and universal health care coverage (philhealth) then our recent economic growth is gonna finally going to be inclusive even for the poor people heck our economic growth brings this new infrastructure plans of Duterte too if all goes well then better infrastructures will mean more businesses being put up in order to further economic growth and bring more high paying jobs hopefully so im fine if experts are gonna be foreign workers elsewhere since they are still part of why there is economic growth going on in poor countries like ours through their remittances and if our economy becomes rich then those experts will come back home anyway and then our country will be the one accepting immigrant workers people does not seem to realize a few million dollars is equal to like billions of pesos or any other poor money because of currency exchange rate OFW remittances hit $28.1 billion in 2017 https://businessmirror.com.ph/ofw-remittances-hit-28-1-billion-in-2017/ thats 1.4 trillion pesos that is almost half of the government budget of 3 trillion pesos per year already Yes, I know the benefits of remittances, I did acknowledge it as something good. But like I said, it is a band aid solution as it does not directly improve our industries, and the fact that top specialists leave for greener pastures makes it even harder to improve said industries. The fact that we are also focusing more into deploying Filipinos abroad rather than fostering talent here shows a mindset that we feel that we don't need to improve our own industries, which is pretty alarming. Remember the time when the presidential spokesman said that we let the Chinese investigate Benham rise because we lack the capacity to do so? Yeah, this is what that mindset brings. |
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