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Oct 2, 2017 6:03 PM
#51
JizzyHitler said: I guess I'll just have to keep on watching the playthrough and see. So far my favorite boys are Ouma, Rantaro (yes, despite what happened) and Shinguji while my favorite girls are Maki, Angie and Kirumi.I know its hard to believe but he really does. You'll come to understand but theres just so much more depth to him that wasnt present in the past rivals and he creates a dynamic simply unique to his personality. It also helps that hes just funny as shit and genuinely unpredictable cause hes not brought down by being tied to some hope gimmick. Also even though i imagine you are, trust me, a rando on the internet, give Shuuichi his chance, theres a very good reason hes such a popular character despite being placed in such a stacked against him situation of people potentially hating his role. He is without a doubt my favorite protagonist Don't worry, I already like him Edit: I meant Kirumi, not Tsumugi |
Comic_SansOct 2, 2017 6:14 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 2, 2017 6:07 PM
#52
Comic_Sans said: I actually would really reccomend not watching the playthrough and playing the game even if it means a bit of a wait, DRV3 more so than other games is alot more of a legit game and the more it goes on it shows. I wont give away too much but I think chapter 6 might potentially make the game unadaptable to other media but video games, at least it will be weaker at best in a different format. But really its up to you, i was with this franchise way back when it was just a playthrough on something awful getting crumbs of content weekly long before it ever got a hint of a western release so the walkthrough format works.JizzyHitler said: I guess I'll just have to keep on watching the playthrough and see. So far my favorite boys are Ouma, Rantaro (yes, despite what happened) and Shinguji while my favorite girls are Maki, Angie and Tsumugi.I know its hard to believe but he really does. You'll come to understand but theres just so much more depth to him that wasnt present in the past rivals and he creates a dynamic simply unique to his personality. It also helps that hes just funny as shit and genuinely unpredictable cause hes not brought down by being tied to some hope gimmick. Also even though i imagine you are, trust me, a rando on the internet, give Shuuichi his chance, theres a very good reason hes such a popular character despite being placed in such a stacked against him situation of people potentially hating his role. He is without a doubt my favorite protagonist Don't worry, I already like him |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 2, 2017 6:14 PM
#53
JizzyHitler said: Trust me, I really tried to wait, but I couldn't. I've watched playthroughs of other games that were even more "video gamey" and I don't mind already knowing the story once I finally manage to get a hold of it so I think I'll be fine.I actually would really reccomend not watching the playthrough and playing the game even if it means a wait, DRV3 more so than other games is alot more of a legit game and the more it goes on it shows. I wont give away too much but I think chapter 6 might potentially make the game unadaptable to other media but video games, at least it will be weaker at best in a different format. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 2, 2017 6:17 PM
#54
Comic_Sans said: Its your decision, but ill restate things a bit more specifically, when i say it gets more video gamey it does some things....no other game has done is all ill say. If your familiar with yoko taro games its more in line with that. This is the big reason i actually urge you to wait cause i really dont think the final section is going to hold the same weight.JizzyHitler said: Trust me, I really tried to wait, but I couldn't. I've watched playthroughs of other games that were even more "video gamey" and I don't mind already knowing the story once I finally manage to get a hold of it so I think I'll be fine.I actually would really reccomend not watching the playthrough and playing the game even if it means a wait, DRV3 more so than other games is alot more of a legit game and the more it goes on it shows. I wont give away too much but I think chapter 6 might potentially make the game unadaptable to other media but video games, at least it will be weaker at best in a different format. This might be hard to believe, but even by danganronpa standards, V3 is really fucking crazy. Its a big reason the ending is very polarizing and will be very love it or hate it. I have seen more positivity about it though and think alot of people complaining while understandably see their position, are misconstruing and missing the point of alot of stuff. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 2, 2017 9:17 PM
#55
I just started the game and skipped all of the thread to ask: Is this thread safe to read to avoid spoilers? I just beat chapter 1. |
Oct 2, 2017 10:10 PM
#56
I'm getting Steam man, I need to play the Danganronpa games. All on my wishlist now hahaha, happy as fuck! |
Oct 2, 2017 10:26 PM
#57
Thrashinuva said: Well people should be doing spoiler tags at least but you can never know for sureI just started the game and skipped all of the thread to ask: Is this thread safe to read to avoid spoilers? I just beat chapter 1. |
Oct 2, 2017 11:42 PM
#58
For those of you who are planning to start the series with this game, that will be the worst decision of your life. You'll need to play the first two games (and even know the conclusion of the DR3 anime) to fully understand the ending of DRV3 So, I just finished Danganronpa V3. My reaction to the ending was this: What in the actual fuck did I just play? What the fuck? How the fuck did Kodaka write this without dying inside? As a long time Danganronpa fan (and I mean Project Zetsubou long), this ending to V3 was the most devastating, most infuriating, yet the most perfect ending this series could ever have. @HaXXspetten wasn't lying when he said that the ending is utterly absurd and easily polarized. I doubt there's any medium in this world that did what DRV3 did in its final chapter. It was both a middle finger and a thank you to Danganronpa fans. Prior to the last chapter of DRV3, I actually thought that the game was better than DR1, but inferior to DR2. But after finishing DR3, I don't even know what to think anymore. DR2 was my favorite VN of all time, and I don't know what to think about that anymore. Honestly, DRV3 makes you look at the series in a completely new light. Replaying the Danganronpa has basically become impossible for me. Hah, and I was planning on replaying these games for the plat trophies. That ain't happening in a loooooooong time, lol. Ugh, I really need to get into spoilers if I can unleash these emotions that I have inside me right now... I don't think I've ever heard of anything as meta as what DRV3 did. Danganronpa's a reality TV show, really? The events of Danganronpa 1, 2 and 3 (anime) were all a fabrication? A fucking lie? My favorite VN series was a lie? Kodaka, you fucking monster. I've never felt this Triggered (Happy Havoc) my entire life. I was in utter shock while playing the trial. Out of every possible outcome, something like this was the least expected. Seeing all those DR character telling me one by one that the previous events never were real... that really killed me. DRV3 isn't about hope and despair. It's about truth or lie. And the only way you can find the ultimate truth is by having true neutrality. There is no hope, there is no despair. All you need to succeed is the truth. This series is over. No way this is getting a sequel. This is the end of Danganronpa. I need to take a rest. Tbh, I feel like the people who disliked the ending didn't understand the true purpose of the ending and what Kodaka is trying to say to the fanbase. @Comic_Sans I can't force you or anything, but you'll be losing a lot by not experiencing this first hand. Trust me on this, this is not your typical Danganronpa game. Not because it has more gameplay elements, but because it does the unthinkable at the end of the game. And the only way to get affected by the unthinkable is by playing it yourself. After knowing the overall story of DRV3, it'll be hard to replay the game. DRV3 is probably one of the best game I've ever played, but I don't even want to look at this game right now. There is no fucking way I'm touching that game right now. Kodaka's a madman and we've been played. @JizzyHitler You were right man, Saihara's an excellent protagonist. Unlike the other two protagonists, Saihara denied both despair and hope, and has accepted truth. His breakdown, his complexity during the final trial makes his a top-tier character. He's not only my favorite character from DRV3, but he's also rivaling Komaeda as my favorite DR character. @Thrashinuva As long as you don't open the spoiler tags, you're fine on this thread... for now. |
Oct 2, 2017 11:57 PM
#59
I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. |
Oct 3, 2017 12:06 AM
#60
Pizzagun said: You don't need to be sorry. It might be a shocking, and even infuriating ending, but it's the riskiest and greatest ending the series could ever have. Whether I love it, whether I hate it, Kodaka had balls to come up with an ending like this. DRV3 is both a masterpiece and a piece of trash. And that's why I love it ;)I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. |
Oct 3, 2017 12:12 AM
#61
It was probably the most shocking VN ending I've seen since Ever17, for better or worse. I can understand both sides regarding whether you'll love it or hate it but at the very least I think you have to give the author a lot of respect for daring to do something so out of left field for what is most likely the ending of not just the game itself but the Danganronpa series as a whole. It kinda forces you into altering your perception of the whole franchise after all |
Oct 3, 2017 12:18 AM
#62
GoldenDevilGamer said: Pizzagun said: You don't need to be sorry. It might be a shocking, and even infuriating ending, but it's the riskiest and greatest ending the series could ever have. Whether I love it, whether I hate it, Kodaka had balls to come up with an ending like this. DRV3 is both a masterpiece and a piece of trash. And that's why I love it ;)I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. Idk, greatest? As Haxxspetten said, Ever17 ending was shocking too but it was pulled off well imo, and it actually worked for the VN since that was the aspect which made the VN great and acclaimed. On the other hand I can understand the message of Kodaka but this felt like a cheap shock value at the very end, yeah props for pulling out something daring tho. |
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Oct 3, 2017 12:19 AM
#63
@JizzyHitler @GoldenDevilGamer Thanks, but like I said, I think I'll be fine. I've been able to experience heavy emotions before when just watching playthroughs (as long as there's not some annoying dude screaming in the background), e.g. when Maya Amano died the mastermind is one of Junko's minions, they win, the surviving cast members transcend into despair and the world goes to shit |
Comic_SansOct 3, 2017 12:24 AM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 3, 2017 12:27 AM
#64
@Comic_Sans let's just say it's not something you'll be able to guess because it's too absurd to ever even consider on your own |
Oct 3, 2017 12:40 AM
#65
HaXXspetten said: Now you're making me even more curious lmao. I'll try to finish chapter two today@Comic_Sans let's just say it's not something you'll be able to guess because it's too absurd to ever even consider on your own |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 3, 2017 1:55 AM
#66
All right, I am all sobered up now. Here we go: Before talking about the game, I want to specifically continue talking about this game's ending from my previous post. I would like to call this game's ending the Schrodinger's ending. Implies, it was fucking amazing and it was fucking trash. Why it's fucking amazing? 1) The characters at the end become more real than our previous set of cast; quite literally. 2) The social commentary, meta jokes and the unorthodox gameplay make the trial a treat to play. 3) The investigation was also pretty fun. Why it's fucking trash? 1) There are now plethora of plot holes. To name a few: How was Tsumugi NOT able to cosplay Kaede if they all turned into fiction? Was she faking cospox or is there any logical consistency to it at all? Monokuma's own words when providing the second motive in Chapter 1 were,"...All students forced to participate this killing game....". But now that we know our cast WANTED this killing game, then what does that mean? Did he just casually lie to us, the audience, once again or are we retconning the fuck out of the plot? 2)The.Fucking.Flashback.Light. The amnesia plot made a lot of sense in DR1, etc thanks to DR0 but here we are faced with a new literal plot device with no real explanation. Should I just assume "It's fiction so it's ok" shtick or should I actually criticize this plot point because it was rubbish? 3)The.Fucking.Argument.Armament. You really were this close to make me stop bothering about this game, Kodaka. Well done. (Obvious bias because I like to criticize more) Anyways, let's now leave the ending aside and talk about this game in general. Is it good? Ehhhhh.... Is it bad? Ehhhhh.... It did have its moments. I don't want to go into specifics. Opinions on the cast Kokichi was kind of better than Nagito and Junko in the crazy department. Gonta's ending was sad af. But he was a true gentleman till his death. Himiko didn't turn into Saionji. Maki was far better than Kirigiri if we are to take her as the main waifu of this game. But still, Kaito deserves her affection because that guy was fucking incredible till his death. Tsumugi was kind of cute but after her unmasking and henceforth her character turned to shit. Keebo finally got to show his badass side. Fuck the Ahego. Miu's was both cute and annoying. Kiyo seemed crazy from start but I softened up to him in Chapter 3....before he killed Tenko. Tenko was really cool and cute! Her degenerate male shtick got annoying pretty quick but I really liked how she loved and motivated Himiko. Angie was crazy and the "Atua said so" shit still pisses me off. Kirumi's character felt like a replica of Peko. But I still have a soft spot for these kinds of characters. Ryoma got cucked hard by Kodaka. Give me his backstory! Rantaro was weird but he seemed chill. Too bad I didn't get to spend time with him at all. Kaede was really inspiring the cast before Kaito took the spotlight. She was pretty bland otherwise. Shuichi was fucking amazing. I had loads of fun controlling him and smacking shitton of desks/fences/chairs into oblivion. The Monokubs were a nice addition. Favourites being Monodam and Monotaro. The mysteries themselves felt rehashed and boring but with the charming cast, I enjoyed them nonetheless. Favourite chapter has to be Chapter 4. The minigames were kinda fun but most of them were only there to overstretch the trail part. Time for the Verdict: Danganronpa V3 gets a good 6/10 from me. It's good and shit but it kind of ruins everything that came came before it. Aside from the controversial ending, it didn't much going aside from its lovely characters. Previous games and their rating (even including the anime): 1) Danganronpa - 6/10 2) Danganronpa 2 - 7/10 3) Danganronpa Another Episode - didn't play lol 4) Danganronpa 3 - 4/10 (Being verrry considerate here) Any rebuttals or agreements? Feel free to drop down a comment. Spoilers out! |
Oct 3, 2017 4:49 AM
#67
Pizzagun said: Which reminds me that I still need to play Ever17. I heard it really utilizes the VN format well. But honestly though, I can't think of a better ending for the series. An ending similar to the DR3 anime would work (all hope, no despair), but doing something shocking like this made the game feel more impactful. At first, I thought that the game lacked a bit of originality since some cases felt like a rehash of previous Danganronpa cases. But the ending proved to be the most original think the series has ever come up with. I agree, the ending was solely created for shock value. But if the shock value worked, then what should I be complaining about. Kodaka got the reaction he wanted out of me, so its fair game, lol.GoldenDevilGamer said: Pizzagun said: I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. Idk, greatest? As Haxxspetten said, Ever17 ending was shocking too but it was pulled off well imo, and it actually worked for the VN since that was the aspect which made the VN great and acclaimed. On the other hand I can understand the message of Kodaka but this felt like a cheap shock value at the very end, yeah props for pulling out something daring tho. @Comic_Sans Even if I was given ten years to guess the ending of DRV3, I would've never guessed it right. It's just too absurd of an ending, even by Danganronpa standards XD |
GoldenDevilGamerOct 3, 2017 4:55 AM
Oct 3, 2017 6:31 AM
#68
I can echo @GoldenDevilGamer, id never guess the big twist of V3. Its gonna be a divisive twist. Though you did get something really wrong with chapter 6's twist Golden, read the white text below. Pizzagun said: it really isnt a fuck you, I can see how people could misread it as that, but it really was just a meta way of lampooning previous game's themes. I think alot of people missed the fact that I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. DR1-3 are still completely real events not retconned at all, in v3's world they are just video games and anime, they are separate continuity so they dont negatively impact one another. Its easier to describe V3 as our world if the franchise grew really out of hand and became a reality show, also there are a ton of hints that kodaka has placed into the prologue he urges people to replay on twitter after finishing the game that outright confirm Tsugumi was lying about them volunteering, cause prior to the brainwash they all remember being kidnapped before being given their ultimates but coincidently thats gone after that brainwash, also in the background of her room you can see the set for the supposed volunteer tapes of shuuichi,kaito,and kaede. Basically this shit is a ruse cruise far from being over. Kodaka already confirmed the franchise isnt over yet as if the ending didnt already outright say it. Also by now you should understand japan amazon is not a good gauge of quality, they are infamous for downvoting stuff to high hell for the smallest reasons like removing a panty shot in a game or doing anything slightly not advertised. V3 is actually really popular over there with Shuuichi being the only protagonist to get #1 in the popularity poll. |
JizzyHitlerOct 3, 2017 12:24 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 3, 2017 7:08 AM
#69
JizzyHitler said: I can echo @GoldenDevilGamer, id never guess the big twist of V3. Its gonna be a divisive twist. Though you did get something really wrong with chapter 6's twist Golden, read the white text below. Pizzagun said: it really isnt a fuck you, I can see how people could misread it as that, but it really was just a meta way of lampooning previous game's themes. I think alot of people missed the fact that DR1-3 are still completely real events not retconned at all, in v3's world they are just video games and anime, they are separate continuity so they dont negatively impact one another. Its easier to describe V3 as our world if the franchise grew really out of hand and became a reality show, also there are a ton of hints that kodaka has placed into the prologue he urges people to replay on twitter after finishing the game that outright confirm Tsugumi was lying about them volunteering, cause prior to the brainwash they all remember being kidnapped before being given their ultimates but coincidently thats gone after that brainwash, also in the background of her room you can see the set for the supposed volunteer tapes of shuuichi,kaito,and kaede. Basically this shit is a ruse cruise far from being over. Kodaka already confirmed the franchise isnt over yet as if the ending didnt already outright say it.I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. Also by now you should understand japan amazon is not a good gauge of quality, they are infamous for downvoting stuff to high hell for the smallest reasons like removing a panty shot in a game or doing anything slightly not advertised. V3 is actually really popular over there with Shuuichi being the only protagonist to get #1 in the popularity poll. Yeah I get that DR1-3 are all games and anime in the V3 world. It's the fact that everything was fictional that shocked me. IDK why but it's hard for me to digest that. And about your kidnapping theory, they probably got kidnapped after auditioning. After being selected, I assume that Team Danganronpa just kidnaps the contestants. Of course this is all just my theory. I guess this plot-point is open to discussion. |
Oct 3, 2017 7:21 AM
#70
GoldenDevilGamer said: ] Yeah I get that DR1-3 are all games and anime in the V3 world. It's the fact that everything was fictional that shocked me. IDK why but it's hard for me to digest that. And about your kidnapping theory, they probably got kidnapped after auditioning. After being selected, I assume that Team Danganronpa just kidnaps the contestants. Of course this is all just my theory. I guess this plot-point is open to discussion. think the fact that kodaka outright urged people to find an inconsistency in the prologue kind of confirms we were just lied to by the game. Too many things start to add up once you notice the inconsistency. Especially once you consider shuuichi's final lines directly putting focus on the idea of the things we heard possibly being not entirely true. Keep in mind unlike junko Tsugumi didnt want to cause despair with the truth, she wanted to prolong the game through any lie possible and would say anything to get it to continue even down to cheating, Though what about DR1-3 being fictional makes it hard to digest? cause remember they still were completely real events not reconnected at all. The whole idea is just the franchise continued in something like our world till it eventually broke into a fucked reality show. I'd understand if the games said the original games were fiction like V3's reality show but it said the opposite which is why the first case files in shuuichi's room only have drawings not pictures. Basically what im trying to get at and what kodaka has thankfully cleared up on twitter, DR 1-3 were not fake, the world and story and all that was not made by the danganronpa team and their stories are over with a totally happy ending of DR3, its just playing with the idea that in V3's world things eventually spiral out of control due to franchise milking, though people are also pointing out there are actually hints that hopes peak did actually happen in v3's world and that a seperate orginizaiton is causing these new killing games. I saw alot of people saying it might be something akin to the future foundation cause they absolutely wouldnt let the game end with despair winning in chapter 6 no matter what even down to tsugumi doing a last minute heel face turn to try and salvage the vote.It really begs the question hard if everything she said was true why hope winning would be so important. |
JizzyHitlerOct 3, 2017 12:29 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 3, 2017 7:28 AM
#71
We're interrupting this program to bring you: Amazing localization jokes!!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/a/FG12U |
Oct 3, 2017 7:55 AM
#72
I got to the trial prep before the last trial last night and now I have work. I just wanna uncover the secrets. Also Kokichi is best character |
chill out |
Oct 3, 2017 8:35 AM
#73
KhemTrailz said: Kokichi is a fucking legend and he only gets better once you look back at his actions with more knowledge.I got to the trial prep before the last trial last night and now I have work. I just wanna uncover the secrets. Also Kokichi is best character I really love how you come to understand He was actually being genuine when he was seemingly mocking the tragedies of student deaths, things like finding the first body and also kaede's death you look back and see him actually visibly distraught before trying to cover it up as a lie. Above all else he genuinely hated the killing game with every ounce of his soul and would do anything to stop it even down to becoming the villain |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 3, 2017 10:33 AM
#74
I just "finished" chapter 2 (that took a long time, good time I had the day off) It's a shame both Kirumi and Ryouma had to go so soon, I liked both of them. I had a feeling Kirumi was going to get killed off soon but during most of the trial I didn't actually think she was the culprit (or that she was the PRIME MINISTER... I have no idea how Kodaka came up with that), for a long time I suspected Momota and it's only when everybody started accusing him and Maki that I stopped doing it and started being more cautious of Kirumi. I saw the piranha cage plot twist coming from miles away though and once I remembered the piece of black cloth it was easy to put together two and two. The cliffhanger at the very end gave me the shills. I love when two of my favorite characters in a story have some sort of rivalry going on! |
Comic_SansOct 3, 2017 3:35 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 3, 2017 10:58 AM
#75
Just finished chapter 1 last Sunday... I got sick for the whole day after that. Fuck! Also Kodaka if you bring her back to life like you did with Kirigiri imma gonna be more pissed off. |
NeonoiaOct 3, 2017 11:16 AM
"... Because when you live in this world of my closed eyes... ... Being alone is very lonely...". |
Oct 3, 2017 11:49 AM
#76
JizzyHitler said: I can echo @GoldenDevilGamer, id never guess the big twist of V3. Its gonna be a divisive twist. Though you did get something really wrong with chapter 6's twist Golden, read the white text below. Pizzagun said: it really isnt a fuck you, I can see how people could misread it as that, but it really was just a meta way of lampooning previous game's themes. I think alot of people missed the fact that DR1-3 are still completely real events not retconned at all, in v3's world they are just video games and anime, they are separate continuity so they dont negatively impact one another. Its easier to describe V3 as our world if the franchise grew really out of hand and became a reality show, also there are a ton of hints that kodaka has placed into the prologue he urges people to replay on twitter after finishing the game that outright confirm Tsugumi was lying about them volunteering, cause prior to the brainwash they all remember being kidnapped before being given their ultimates but coincidently thats gone after that brainwash, also in the background of her room you can see the set for the supposed volunteer tapes of shuuichi,kaito,and kaede. Basically this shit is a ruse cruise far from being over. Kodaka already confirmed the franchise isnt over yet as if the ending didnt already outright say it.I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. Also by now you should understand japan amazon is not a good gauge of quality, they are infamous for downvoting stuff to high hell for the smallest reasons like removing a panty shot in a game or doing anything slightly not advertised. V3 is actually really popular over there with Shuuichi being the only protagonist to get #1 in the popularity poll. That's good and all but you should have used spoiler tags, RIP those people who read it lol. |
Oct 3, 2017 12:18 PM
#77
Pizzagun said: does the white text not work for you? On both my phone and comp its entirely invisible until highlighted. Just to be safe i added a double spoiler but this isxthe first time ive heard of white texting not working.That's good and all but you should have used spoiler tags, RIP those people who read it lol. But if it really ismt id ask you edit out my reply in your post then |
JizzyHitlerOct 3, 2017 12:27 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 3, 2017 8:20 PM
#78
slightly intrigued that the game even connects to the dr3 anime must motivate myself to start chapter 3 |
"When the time is yours, the future is waiting, The person you become, and the people you're creating." |
Oct 4, 2017 5:18 PM
#79
I still havent played this, just the demo is it good so far? |
Oct 5, 2017 1:59 PM
#80
I'm done with chapter 3 THANK_YOU_HIMIKO.jpg, she became second best grill just because of this. Sleeping Ouma was also super cute. This was probably the "worst" chapter so far – it wasn't bad, but not as good as chapter one or two. I didn't really like how they chose to switch cases so fast and then completely forgot about Angie for a good portion of the trial and it could've been shorter. I didn't expect Korekiyo to be an incestuous crackpot though. Note to self: Every chapter 3 in a Danganronpa game features two victims. Also, every chapter 3 in a Danganronpa game is a disappointment. predictable with two victims in every game though. I feel like they could switch it up a little by e.g. adding two killers to the rooster but one of them survives after the trial due to the "first serve" rule. Surely that would make for an interesting conflict. I still havent played this, just the demo is it good so far? Absolutely. It's amazing! |
Comic_SansOct 5, 2017 2:28 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 5, 2017 3:49 PM
#81
I finished the game a while ago, I started really enjoying it after the first 2 chapters. Seems to be generally an unpopular opinion, but I loved the ending and it's personally my favorite game from the series. Kokichi managed to beat Komaeda as my favorite character from the series, and the Scrum Debates were my favorite parts of the class trials. If they make future games I hope they keep the Scrum Debates in. Chapter 5 was freaking great imo, my absolute favorite chapter. (While also simultaneously the saddest for me lmao) |
Oct 5, 2017 3:52 PM
#82
@ The people who have completed the game According to the Youtube comments they replaced the ending theme in the international release, is that true? (Spoilers for anybody who hasn't completed the game, I've only listened to the song and avoided looking at the video itself) |
Comic_SansOct 5, 2017 3:56 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 5, 2017 4:08 PM
#83
@Comic_Sans I can't say I remember exactly what the ED sounded like but it definitely wasn't that one at least, so yeah must have been changed |
Oct 5, 2017 5:28 PM
#84
@Comic_Sans I'll be honest I skipped the credits due to anxiety of wanting to see the epilogue cause its not till after the credits and shit was playing with my heart too much. I do not remember what was there. Blaffie said: Thats not an unpopular opinion its just the ending is a bit divisive but ive generally seen more positivity. All things considered I think part of the divisiveness comes from the fact that the game really didnt do a good job establishing V3's continuity is in a separate universe from the hopes peak saga which is something I too didnt really notice at first despite the game being announced as a reboot.I finished the game a while ago, I started really enjoying it after the first 2 chapters. Seems to be generally an unpopular opinion, but I loved the ending and it's personally my favorite game from the series. Kokichi managed to beat Komaeda as my favorite character from the series, and the Scrum Debates were my favorite parts of the class trials. If they make future games I hope they keep the Scrum Debates in. Chapter 5 was freaking great imo, my absolute favorite chapter. (While also simultaneously the saddest for me lmao) And yes, kokichi is by far the best rival. Not only was he entertaining but he was actually an excellent character with loads of depth instead of just being lol crazy. |
JizzyHitlerOct 5, 2017 5:31 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 5, 2017 6:27 PM
#85
Can I just say that the OST in this game is also pretty fantastic? I can't stop listening to Closing Argument V3 and Scrum's Debate. |
Oct 5, 2017 6:58 PM
#86
Real late but finally got around to playing. First trial was really long. Did not expect what happened to happen either. Guess you could say it blew my mind. Also the scene after the trial hit the feels hard, real hard. |
Oct 5, 2017 11:16 PM
#87
@HaXXspetten Wow, rude, NIS. Dangan Ronpa without Ogata is like, to quote Gösta Jonsson, coffee without cream or love without kisses |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 6, 2017 8:58 AM
#88
Comic_Sans said: I guess the reason why I didn't like the third chapter in the first game is because the victims were my least favorite characters from the game. Because of that, I feel like the impact the case was supposed to give me wasn't as strong as it should be. It was pretty convoluted at first with the bodies being moved around, @GoldenDevilGamer Note to self: Every chapter 3 in a Danganronpa game features two victims. Also, every chapter 3 in a Danganronpa game is a disappointment. predictable with two victims in every game though. I feel like they could switch it up a little by e.g. adding two killers to the rooster but one of them survives after the trial due to the "first serve" rule. Surely that would make for an interesting conflict. but the tarp gave it away. Though I agree, having two culprits in a case would be pretty fun. It would be even more fun if the situation was where two people created their own traps to kill the same person, but both of them are not sure which of the two were the ones responsible for the murder. |
Oct 6, 2017 6:16 PM
#89
This was basically me during the whole second half of the trial Yes, this case was incredibly easy, I think I managed to figure out all of the major case points beforehand, but Jesus H. Christ was Ouma absolutely FANTASTIC to watch. It's partially because I'm tired but I can't even articulate myself properly. The scene that took place after the execution (RIP in peace Gonta, you didn't do nothing wrong) also certified my love for Harumaki even more, she's come such a long way since the prologue. As for Iruma... I can't say I like her but at the same time I can't say I truly dislike her anymore. I don't know what happened. Good job Kodaka I guess |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 6, 2017 7:03 PM
#90
Comic_Sans said: This was basically me during the whole second half of the trial Yes, this case was incredibly easy, I think I managed to figure out all of the major case points beforehand, but Jesus H. Christ was Ouma absolutely FANTASTIC to watch. It's partially because I'm tired but I can't even articulate myself properly. The scene that took place after the execution (RIP in peace Gonta, you didn't do nothing wrong) also certified my love for Harumaki even more, she's come such a long way since the prologue. As for Iruma... I can't say I like her but at the same time I can't say I truly dislike her anymore. I don't know what happened. Good job Kodaka I guess Yeah chapter 4 was definetly something that i wasnt too hype about most of it, but then the 2nd half of the trial became so great because of oma. My favorite moment from him was when shuuichi lies about seeing oma in the dining room, only for oma to stop all his goofy joking tones and coldly utter "how dare you try to lie to me' before going well off the deep end for the rest of the game, Hes so much more unpredictable than the other 2 rivals before him and chapter 4 and especially 5 is where they cement him as my favorite in the series. I fucking love what the rock wound up reading in the end. Prepare your boipussy for chapter 5, no chapter of danganronpa has fucked with me emotionally like that one did. Anxious to hear what youll think of chapter 6 when you get to it too due to the whole polarizing aspect of it. I know I hyped it up the most, but actually sitting on chapter 6's reveals a bit more, they are fucking crazy and still by far cazier than the series has ever goitten, but I dont think they are AS crazy as it feels in the middle of the mindfuck. Like its hard to describe but I think the twist is fucking insane but the scenario it sets up is actually pretty tame compared to the despair tragedy in the hopes peak academy saga |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 6, 2017 8:56 PM
#91
Uhm. I think visiting this thread is basically mean expecting spoilers. Anyway. At first, I couldn't accept the ending that DR 1 and 2 are only just fiction(On that world of course) But after reading it again the whole, I manage to accept it. As for my opinion on this game, I can sympathize with the characters more compared to DR 1 and 2. The class trials are good but it seems nothing beats DR 2's chapter 5 class trial since that totally gives goosebumps-wow-what the fuck factor. But chapter 4 class trial is the only class trial that it made nearly cried... GONTA DID NOTHING WRONG. However, despite I can sympathize the characters here more, there are annoying characters unlike on DR 1 and 2. Kokichi like trying so hard to be Nagito-like feeling though he kinda redeemed in the end I guess and Kaito for just... ugh I guess you can tell on how I find him annoying and way more annoying the Kokichi and the other characters such as the tanned girl and that girl who keeps saying degenerate males(I forgot their names because for me they're not worth remembering) although all of them except the siscon(I think) did nothing wrong. The characters that I really like and find better than on DR 1 and 2 are Maki(She's way way better Kuudere than Kirigiri Kyouko), Gonta(OF COURSE), Himiko, Kaede (Although I'm still fucking sad that she died early) In short, I found the casts of DR 1 and 2 better but if I'm going to be specific on the characters, I can find more likable characters DR V3 than on DR 1 and 2. And I forgot to mention, the executions on DR V3 are way more gruesome here compared to the first 2 games. |
TennoujiOct 6, 2017 9:07 PM
Oct 7, 2017 2:40 AM
#92
@JizzyHitler Yeah chapter 4 was definetly something that i wasnt too hype about most of it, but then the 2nd half of the trial became so great because of oma. My favorite moment from him was when shuuichi lies about seeing oma in the dining room, only for oma to stop all his goofy joking tones and coldly utter "how dare you try to lie to me' before going well off the deep end for the rest of the game, Hes so much more unpredictable than the other 2 rivals before him and chapter 4 and especially 5 is where they cement him as my favorite in the series. I fucking love what the rock wound up reading in the end. I know I hyped it up the most, but actually sitting on chapter 6's reveals a bit more, they are fucking crazy and still by far cazier than the series has ever goitten, but I dont think they are AS crazy as it feels in the middle of the mindfuck. Like its hard to describe but I think the twist is fucking insane but the scenario it sets up is actually pretty tame compared to the despair tragedy in the hopes peak academy saga Totally agreed. You could feel how he was just slowly descending further and further into madness and his crazy facial expressions made it 10x times better. His voice actor also did a great job bringing out his darker aspects – interestingly enough because I think his repertoire mostly consists of generic shounen/ecchi protagonists or borderline shota baits (which Ouma is in a sense, but a crazy one). Also, is it just my fujoshit senses that are tingling or does Ouma have the hots for Saihara? @JewellTH Kokichi Ouma is best boy and best rival! Now, if only the mods could add that DRV3 anthology manga that I and multiple others have submitted to the database but STILL HASN'T BEEN ACCEPTED DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN MONTHS (and for some reason they also still have time to reject my request) so that I could add either Ouma or Maki to my favorites... |
Comic_SansOct 7, 2017 5:52 AM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 7, 2017 6:14 AM
#93
Maki needs more love, i feel like shes not as popular as she should be esoecially cause shes the closest to topping kirigiri for me. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 7, 2017 7:42 AM
#94
JizzyHitler said: For me she has been BEST GRILL™ ever since she appeared in the first trailer. Not to mention that she actually develops as a character throughout the storyMaki needs more love, i feel like shes not as popular as she should be esoecially cause shes the closest to topping kirigiri for me. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 7, 2017 7:53 AM
#95
JizzyHitler said: +1Maki needs more love, i feel like shes not as popular as she should be esoecially cause shes the closest to topping kirigiri for me. She seemed pretty cold at start but after opening up to Saihara and Kaito, she became a precious cinnamon bun. |
Oct 7, 2017 8:44 AM
#96
Hell yeah maki master race, genuinly one of my favs from the series. Her opening up felt actually believable and was totally adorable when she starts to let her guard down around shuuichi and kaito. Its one of the only cases i can think of where seeing a character smile was a highlight |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 7, 2017 11:51 AM
#97
Comic_Sans said: @JizzyHitler Yeah chapter 4 was definetly something that i wasnt too hype about most of it, but then the 2nd half of the trial became so great because of oma. My favorite moment from him was when shuuichi lies about seeing oma in the dining room, only for oma to stop all his goofy joking tones and coldly utter "how dare you try to lie to me' before going well off the deep end for the rest of the game, Hes so much more unpredictable than the other 2 rivals before him and chapter 4 and especially 5 is where they cement him as my favorite in the series. I fucking love what the rock wound up reading in the end. I know I hyped it up the most, but actually sitting on chapter 6's reveals a bit more, they are fucking crazy and still by far cazier than the series has ever goitten, but I dont think they are AS crazy as it feels in the middle of the mindfuck. Like its hard to describe but I think the twist is fucking insane but the scenario it sets up is actually pretty tame compared to the despair tragedy in the hopes peak academy saga Totally agreed. You could feel how he was just slowly descending further and further into madness and his crazy facial expressions made it 10x times better. His voice actor also did a great job bringing out his darker aspects – interestingly enough because I think his repertoire mostly consists of generic shounen/ecchi protagonists or borderline shota baits (which Ouma is in a sense, but a crazy one). Also, is it just my fujoshit senses that are tingling or does Ouma have the hots for Saihara? You learn alot more about Oma in chapter 5 and 6 and just how his mindset actually works that changes how you look at his actions in the past, I think out of all the Dr games oma and shuuichi might actually be the least fujobaiting but the game also never really addresses anything like oma's sexuality or anything so its not like its gonna shoot things down for you if you really want to ship it. Just dont expect the love hotel scenes to hold much weight for any character because the premise of them is it completely changes reality to make shuuichi the perfect example of a lover to the person you go in with. JewellTH said: I dont know if maki is particularly less waifubaiting, then again I thought she was already best girl material from when the game was first announced and we all thought she was the heroineComic_Sans said: Now, if only the mods could add that DRV3 anthology manga that I and multiple others have submitted to the database but STILL HASN'T BEEN ACCEPTED DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN MONTHS (and for some reason they also still have time to reject my request) so that I could add either Ouma or Maki to my favorites... Agreed. I really want to add Ouma and Tenko to my favorites. JizzyHitler said: Maki needs more love, i feel like shes not as popular as she should be esoecially cause shes the closest to topping kirigiri for me. Agreed. Out of all the Kirigiri/Chiaki type characters, Maki seems the most flawed and the least waifubait which I like. then she actually still wound up being it which made me happy as hell, she might just feel less waifubaity just cause she wasnt shuuichi's love interest but rather kaitos so any attempt to self insert wouldn't work. that said "i guess ill double spoiler this cause i dont know if your done or not so be warned" I do think it's worth noting since this is the start of a new saga with the survivors ostensibly basically going nuclear and lone wold against the world, its not exactly out of the realm of possibility the games might start pairing shuuichi and maki together. I guess i can see someone saying it'd feel dirty just cause it'd be like they are just going for leftovers after kaede/kaito died but then youd have to make the same argument for kirigiri. It does just seem like a semi decent number of fans think thats where their relationship will probably go after the game and I really wouldnt be against it mainly cause they deserve fucking anything after the shit they both went through. Of course that all remains to be seen I just kind of feel like its sort of going that way with maki bringing up how much like kaito shuuichi really is and the general assumption they are gonna be a duo going against team danganronpa from here on out, cause lets face it....himeko isnt exactly gonna be useful |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 7, 2017 1:25 PM
#98
KuzuSpy said: I'm just glad to know the west also loves Saihara. I thought people might say he's just another bland protagonist, and I even liked Hinata. Easily the most developed character of the whole franchise. What he did on chapter 6 was really unexpected and just made him my all-time favorite. I was both surprised and extremely happy finding out that Shuuichi is actually one of the most popular characters in the franchise cause I genuinly thought he'd get a ton of bland complaints. I'm torn between him maki and kokichi as my favorite character. V3 just had a strong as hell main cast. Hands down my favorite protaognist at least, I liked him before but chapter 6 he becomes alpha as fuck. The though that hes gonna be the naegi of the saga so we will likely be seeing him cameo alot in future entries has me really excited. Unlike how dr1 ended it really doesnt feel like shuuichi's story is over with just 1 game even if the franchise is still kind of up in the air at this point, kodaka did say it wasnt over but that doesnt necessarily guarantee a continuation of v3's story. Its most likley will cause the main conflict is not anywhere close to resolved but the next entry could very well be that DR fighting game kodaka wanted to make for eons or a spin off in hopes peak's saga, i just hope if they do make the fighting game that they still co-develop V4 alongside it so we dont wait as long as the gap between 2 and v3 |
JizzyHitlerOct 7, 2017 1:29 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 7, 2017 1:46 PM
#99
The boyfriend, one of our friends as well as myself stayed up until 6AM yesterday (Friday) morning to completely finish DRV3 after having started around 8PM or so the previous (Thursday) night...and boy, was that EVER an ending if I ever saw one. Anyway, we immensely enjoyed it. Even had some good laughs and jokes along the way. We're now patiently/impatiently waiting for our other friend to get to the end of the game (though, he's still pretty early on, so...) All in all, I (or, rather we) give the game a 10/10. ♥ |
Oct 7, 2017 11:10 PM
#100
I will now give a quick run down of the game chapter by chapter. Chapter 1: I guess were playing as basic bitch boy protag after all. Also feels. Chapter 2: My favorite designed character is killed...that hit me hard. Chapter 3: The worst chapter, the murder was decent but the culprit is way too obvious mainly because people knew he was going to kill someone eventually due to his looks. Chapter 4: Probably could of figured it out earlier but didn't want to believe it. Rip my adorable bug loving gentlemen. Chapter 5: Ouma is probably the best character in the DR series after that stunt, Kaito isn't that far behind either. Chapter 6: Oh boi, here we go. Keebo is badass. Shuichi is the best DR protag by a fucking mile. That 4th wall breaking was beyond anything I've ever seen. The ending was perfect, I loved it. I have no idea if they can continue the series after that, probably not. We need more guys like Kodaka and Yoka Taro, they make games that effect people on a personal level. Overall: 10/10, and it has some fun post game content that isnt DLC so it becomes 11/10. Truly one of the best VN's I've ever played. |
Major123Oct 7, 2017 11:19 PM
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