What's most interesting about Kamoshida is that he's based on a real life person. He'll be out of jail in 2018. 99.99% sure some troll is going to send him a copy of Persona 5 and just knowing that will happen makes it all the more funny. |
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PeenusWeenusCaim said: Huh, I didn't know that.What's most interesting about Kamoshida is that he's based on a real life person. He'll be out of jail in 2018. 99.99% sure some troll is going to send him a copy of Persona 5 and just knowing that will happen makes it all the more funny. I wonder if he'll play the game |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| It's definitely a sexy theme for sexy people to listen while they're heading their way to the sexy casino. |
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| If you could manage your life like a persona game, |
| Phantom Thieves post-card is a thing in the game that can be sent to your confidant to help raising their rank. Its only available when Phantom Thieves were trending. 2 playthrough and I never knew. |
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KaiserNazrin said: Well shit, it's too late for me nowPhantom Thieves post-card is a thing in the game that can be sent to your confidant to help raising their rank. Its only available when Phantom Thieves were trending. 2 playthrough and I never knew. At least I've got Chihaya DarkFatalKnight said: IndeedIt's definitely a sexy theme for sexy people to listen while they're heading their way to the sexy casino. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Well after a fucking long time I finished the game. Don't feel like writing to much about it, I thought it started really strong (more than any other persona game) but the second half could've been so much better that it ended up making it kinda disappointing. Random though, the final dungeon felt very SMT-like, you know, angel and stuffs. |
VanisherMay 21, 2017 12:16 AM
| Honestly, this is my first persona game, but it's so addicting .... |
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| Makotos moment was pretty underwhelming until she brought out that persona 🔥🔥🔥 |
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| How do I turn off Ryuji's insta kill ability? I want to be able to kill shadows and gain XP but all that happens most of the time is that I get a new Persona instantly |
Comic_SansMay 22, 2017 3:10 AM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: There's no way to turn it off. If you don't ambush them then I think it might not activate, but I might be wrong.How do I turn off Ryuji's insta kill ability? I want to be able to kill shadows and gain XP but all that happens most of the time is that I get a new Persona instantly |
Thrashinuva said: Seriously?Comic_Sans said: There's no way to turn it off. If you don't ambush them then I think it might not activate, but I might be wrong.How do I turn off Ryuji's insta kill ability? I want to be able to kill shadows and gain XP but all that happens most of the time is that I get a new Persona instantly I guess I'll just have to spend some time grinding/getting ambushed in Mementos + fight the Reaper then because I'd rather avoid that in palaces |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Yusuke's story is quite sad though. I like his sword. |
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Vanisher said: Well after a fucking long time I finished the game. Don't feel like writing to much about it, I thought it started really strong (more than any other persona game) but the second half could've been so much better that it ended up making it kinda disappointing. Random though, the final dungeon felt very SMT-like, you know, angel and stuffs. Reverse Persona 3 effect. Persona 3 started quite bland, but in September the game became freaking awesome until the end. Here the game start strong with Kamoshida and Madarame but then it went in a decline with the next 3 dungeons and then up again with the Casino and the Titanic and finally the last dungeon was underwhelming. PS.- Ryuji instakill work in two conditions: 1. Joker is higher level than the enemy (I think the key number is 5, but I have heard of cases that it works even with 2 levels above). 2. You ambush the enemy. If he notices you and you hit it first it doesn't activate. |
| I feel like there were actually some really cool ideas in the post-casino part of the game but they were executed really poorly. |
Vanisher said: I thought the Igor twist was nicely foreshadowed. Aside from the obvious change in voice, there were subtle hints that implied something wasn't right like "Wecome to my (instead of "the") Velvet Room" and the twins doing the fusing rather than fake Igor. Other hints like a false God and prison or something.I feel like there were actually some really cool ideas in the post-casino part of the game but they were executed really poorly. I also think the questions were there, not to test you or anything, but to make you affirm your belief. Much like the questions Nier: Automata asks you like "Do you think video games are pointless?" |
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| I love the money palace theme .... |
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DragonSlayer_19 said: It's one of my favorites as well, although I prefer the sixth and the seventh palaces' themes (I've just began the seventh story arc).I love the money palace theme .... |
Comic_SansMay 23, 2017 8:18 AM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Do I have to complete all of the previous requests before I can do The Killer Who Cleans Up Trash (I need to do it in order to max out the twins' social link)? According to all of the guides I've checked it should be available on the 14th of October but I'm already on the 24th of November and Mishima still hasn't texted me about it (I have maxed out his Confidant). Did I fuck up somewhere since I still haven't received the request or does it just happen at random whenever the game feels like it? |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: Do I have to complete all of the previous requests before I can do The Killer Who Cleans Up Trash (I need to do it in order to max out the twins' social link)? According to all of the guides I've checked it should be available on the 14th of October but I'm already on the 24th of November and Mishima still hasn't texted me about it (I have maxed out his Confidant). Did I fuck up somewhere since I still haven't received the request or does it just happen at random whenever the game feels like it? I know for sure you don't have to complete all others since I did one tied to Sojiro's confidant last. You might have missed a text from Mishima at some point? That's all I could think it is. If that's the case I don't think you could get it ever until a second playthrough. |
Digital_Fuzion said: I always make sure to check my messages, so no, I don't think so.I know for sure you don't have to complete all others since I did one tied to Sojiro's confidant last. You might have missed a text from Mishima at some point? That's all I could think it is. If that's the case I don't think you could get it ever until a second playthrough. I guess I'll just have to wait and see |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Phendrus said: Huh, I didn't know that. NiceIf you don't get the request, you can still get a Seth with High Counter by leveling Dakini to 52 so that she learns the skill, fusing her with Pazuzu to get Horus, and using Horus to make Seth. Edit: Alternatively, you can just make Seth, save your game, then gallows something with High Counter onto Seth. Reload until he inherits High Counter. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I beat the game twice. Thinking of starting it up one more time and playing it on Merciless. Oh and get all the trophies so I can at least have one Platinum trophy. |
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| Gameplay and dungeon wise, Persona 5 is the clear winner, but overall I think the game is inferior to Persona 3 and 4. I just couldn't get all that emotionally invested in P5. Couldn't really connect with any of the characters. |
| I finally got the platinum today. The hardest trophy award goes to: Golden Finger. I tried the final level of Power Intuition atleast 7 times. The runner ups are: * A Unique Rebel.- I defeated the reaper at level 82. With my team, Makoto, Yusuke and Haru. The MVP was Yosuke, he evaded almost every attack. * Beyond Rehabilitation.- They were easier than Reaper... but I used the broken Yoshitsune + Satanael combination. Also Yusuke and Ryuji won the MVP award this time. * Mask Collector.- I couldn't find the last 3-4 Personas and I used a guide for those two. I spent like 2 million being level 72 when I was at 78% of completition and fusing level 90+ Personas XD |
SilverDio said: You could've waited until the flu season thoughThe runner ups are: * A Unique Rebel.- I defeated the reaper at level 82. With my team, Makoto, Yusuke and Haru. The MVP was Yosuke, he evaded almost every attack. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I didn't know about Reaper and Flu season until the final, FINAL dungeon. Terrible feeling tbh |
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Comic_Sans said: SilverDio said: You could've waited until the flu season thoughThe runner ups are: * A Unique Rebel.- I defeated the reaper at level 82. With my team, Makoto, Yusuke and Haru. The MVP was Yosuke, he evaded almost every attack. I already exploited the game once (Memento's bosses money account), I didn't want to do it again. Also the feeling of beating him with normal means was incredible. I thought that the last Megidolaon+Concentrate would kill me but I forgot that I got my Zouchouten with Enduring Soul, hell yeah! |
SpamuraiSensei said: That seems to be the difference, for me the P5 characters felt more relatable than previous games. Gameplay and dungeon wise, Persona 5 is the clear winner, but overall I think the game is inferior to Persona 3 and 4. I just couldn't get all that emotionally invested in P5. Couldn't really connect with any of the characters. |
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| Passed the 100 hour mark today, Managed to level up to 73 due to exploiting the Reaper flu trick twice. I'm on the final Mementos dungeon currently. |
SuperRed said: If you just want to grind to the max level, you should wait until just before the final boss.Passed the 100 hour mark today, Managed to level up to 73 due to exploiting the Reaper flu trick twice. I'm on the final Mementos dungeon currently. |
| Beat the game just now, liked it very much. Confidants I maxed out in my first playthrough excluding the ones that max out naturally: Kawakami, Ohya, Ryuji, Justine and Caroline, Shinya, Iwai, Sojiro, Takemi and Mishima. Strongest Persona I had at the end: Metatron Level 95. Best Boy: Protagonist Best Girl: Futaba Best Antagonist: Shido |
 Can we all agree that Haru was poorly implemented? |
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| I think you just have something against girls with big foreheads. Her social link was good so it makes up for it. |
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PeenusWeenusCaim said: [img]https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1492/54/1492545398389.png[img] Can we all agree that Haru was poorly implemented? I felt like she was just "there" tbh especially compared with the screentime the previous characters got. |
| What do you people think about the criticism this game has gotten over it's depiction of LGBT people? https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/05/persona-5-put-me-back-in-the-closet.html http://www.avclub.com/article/how-persona-5-lets-down-its-gay-players-254102 |
SuperRed said: They can eat shit.What do you people think about the criticism this game has gotten over it's depiction of LGBT people? https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/05/persona-5-put-me-back-in-the-closet.html http://www.avclub.com/article/how-persona-5-lets-down-its-gay-players-254102 There's always going to be tropes in anime games from the "25% American" girl being a blue eyes, blond hair aryan to the landwhale in P4 being a literal fucking landwhale. It's ridiculous how they're fine with the tropes of other characters but not fine with the flamboyant gay male trope. Really highlights their ridiculous special snowflake attitude Major123 said: So you admit her introduction wasn't all that great?I think you just have something against girls with big foreheads. Her social link was good so it makes up for it. |
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SuperRed said: Her Confidant made up for it but yes, her character suffered a lot from being introduced late in the story. Naoto's Social link also didn't start before October but she had still been a recurring character since May.I felt like she was just "there" tbh especially compared with the screentime the previous characters got. PeenusWeenusCaim said: Not to mention that the transgender bartender of Crossroads, La La Escargot, is portrayed as a rather sympathetic character. In Japanese polls she even seems to be more slightly popular than Ohya https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/835628-persona-5/75272853They can eat shit. There's always going to be tropes in anime games from the "25% American" girl being a blue eyes, blond hair aryan to the landwhale in P4 being a literal fucking landwhale. It's ridiculous how they're fine with the tropes of other characters but not fine with the flamboyant gay male trope. Really highlights their ridiculous special snowflake attitude https://www.reddit.com/r/Persona5/comments/5dqn5g/possible_spoilerspoll_results_for_favorite_track/ I didn't find the gay men sequences to be particularly funny and I'm still mad they didn't let me romance any of the boys but there are definitely worse portrayals out there. I have also seen people complain about the game being "sexist" and "patriarchal" despite the fact that I recall gender equality issues being brought up multiple times throughout the game (e.g. Sae mentions something at least once that it's "difficult to get by as a female prosecutor in such a male dominated world" or something like that). |
Comic_SansMay 27, 2017 3:15 AM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
PeenusWeenusCaim said: SuperRed said: They can eat shit.What do you people think about the criticism this game has gotten over it's depiction of LGBT people? https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/05/persona-5-put-me-back-in-the-closet.html http://www.avclub.com/article/how-persona-5-lets-down-its-gay-players-254102 There's always going to be tropes in anime games from the "25% American" girl being a blue eyes, blond hair aryan to the landwhale in P4 being a literal fucking landwhale. It's ridiculous how they're fine with the tropes of other characters but not fine with the flamboyant gay male trope. Really highlights their ridiculous special snowflake attitude Major123 said: So you admit her introduction wasn't all that great?I think you just have something against girls with big foreheads. Her social link was good so it makes up for it. Comic_Sans said: SuperRed said: Her Confidant made up for it but yes, her character suffered a lot from being introduced late in the story. Naoto's Social link also didn't start before October but she had still been a recurring character since May.I felt like she was just "there" tbh especially compared with the screentime the previous characters got. PeenusWeenusCaim said: Not to mention that the transgender bartender of Crossroads, La La Escargot, is portrayed as a rather sympathetic character. In Japanese polls she even seems to be more slightly popular than Ohya https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/835628-persona-5/75272853They can eat shit. There's always going to be tropes in anime games from the "25% American" girl being a blue eyes, blond hair aryan to the landwhale in P4 being a literal fucking landwhale. It's ridiculous how they're fine with the tropes of other characters but not fine with the flamboyant gay male trope. Really highlights their ridiculous special snowflake attitude https://www.reddit.com/r/Persona5/comments/5dqn5g/possible_spoilerspoll_results_for_favorite_track/ I didn't find the gay men sequences to be particularly funny and I'm still mad they didn't let me romance any of the boys but there are definitely worse portrayals out there. I have also seen people complain about the game being "sexist" and "patriarchal" despite the fact that I recall gender equality issues being brought up multiple times throughout the game (e.g. Sae mentions something at least once that it's "difficult to get by as a female prosecutor in such a male dominated world" or something like that). You guys don't see anything wrong with the fact that the only explicitly gay people in the game are also portrayed as sexually aggressive and were about to molest a younger man? |
| I don't know about you, but I love the shogi girl. It's a shame she can't fight in the Metaverse. |
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| They know how to do LGBT characters. They made Jun and you can romance him in Persona 2.  They made Erica. And although I wouldn't say Kanji is gay, his dungeon showed that Atlus is at least aware of the stereotyping that comes to gays. The thing is, when you make an RPG, you're always going to have a lot of characters in them. Some minor, some major. Since minor characters are hardly essential to the story, they're always going to be defined by one trait or one trope. I didn't find it funny either but I'm not going to get upset about it. It's a minor joke scene about a sexual encounter in the sex district of Japan. Now if Atlus introduced a major gay character in something like P6 as a social link and characterized him like the Shinjuku dudes, we're going to have a problem. |
PeenusWeenusCaimMay 27, 2017 7:41 AM
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PeenusWeenusCaim said: Yes, it was forced and her being attached to arguably the worst villain in the game doesn't really help. She was introduced too late and hardly had any impact on the story after her dungeon was done with. I mean everyone sort of takes a back seat after Makoto joins but her whole story arc felt forced. HOWEVER, going through her social link and seeing how she tries to deal with all the responsibilities being thrown out at her after SuperRed said: They can eat shit.What do you people think about the criticism this game has gotten over it's depiction of LGBT people? https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/05/persona-5-put-me-back-in-the-closet.html http://www.avclub.com/article/how-persona-5-lets-down-its-gay-players-254102 There's always going to be tropes in anime games from the "25% American" girl being a blue eyes, blond hair aryan to the landwhale in P4 being a literal fucking landwhale. It's ridiculous how they're fine with the tropes of other characters but not fine with the flamboyant gay male trope. Really highlights their ridiculous special snowflake attitude Major123 said: So you admit her introduction wasn't all that great?I think you just have something against girls with big foreheads. Her social link was good so it makes up for it. while coming up with her own ideas made me really like her as a character. |
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Major123 said: I admit, I liked her social link too but goddamn the way they introduced her was pretty bad. Worst villain, worst dungeon, worse arc, and introduced way too late in the game. Yes, it was forced and her being attached to arguably the worst villain in the game doesn't really help. She was introduced too late and hardly had any impact on the story after her dungeon was done with. I mean everyone sort of takes a back seat after Makoto joins but her whole story arc felt forced. HOWEVER, going through her social link and seeing how she tries to deal with all the responsibilities being thrown out at her after while coming up with her own ideas made me really like her as a character. She ended up being my best party member though. The stackable gun boosts and her One Shot, One Kill made her a permanent member in my active party. She also has the best P4: DaN costume  worldeditor11 said: The writing is top-notch but the gameplay is infuriatingly shit. Is Persona 2 worth playing though? |
PeenusWeenusCaimMay 27, 2017 7:52 AM
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| The whole 5th dungeon felt out of place with the entire game, right when they introduced Okumura it came off as generic and not something that was as developed as the villains before him. Kamoshida's arc did a great job at setting the vibe for the entire game and up until the 5th dungeon it stuck with it. The casino and ship make up for it but I wish the villain was more unique. I also thought the "factory to space station design" was pretty fun to explore through. Some people online were saying they had problems doing the puzzles on space parts, like those were pretty easy. |
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Major123 said: I think the problem has to do with how Atlus wasn't sure if they should have added a moral dilemma or not. At certain moments, the party would often alternate between "Maybe changing his heart isn't that great of an idea" to "Wow, what an ASSHOLE, let's change his heart!" throughout the arc. Made it very inconsistent.The whole 5th dungeon felt out of place with the entire game, right when they introduced Okumura it came off as generic and not something that was as developed as the villains before him. Kamoshida's arc did a great job at setting the vibe for the entire game and up until the 5th dungeon it stuck with it. The casino and ship make up for it but I wish the villain was more unique. I also thought the "factory to space station design" was pretty fun to explore through. Some people online were saying they had problems doing the puzzles on space parts, like those were pretty easy. |
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Major123 said: Yeah, I think the Okumura arc would have fit in with the rest of the story better if there had been some sort of foreshadowing.The whole 5th dungeon felt out of place with the entire game, right when they introduced Okumura it came off as generic and not something that was as developed as the villains before him. Kamoshida's arc did a great job at setting the vibe for the entire game and up until the 5th dungeon it stuck with it. The casino and ship make up for it but I wish the villain was more unique. I also thought the "factory to space station design" was pretty fun to explore through. Some people online were saying they had problems doing the puzzles on space parts, like those were pretty easy. The Kamoshida and Madarame arcs didn't have much build up but they didn't need that since they occurred early on in the story. The build up to Kaneshiro's arc was a bit stupid with the whole "Makoto getting into trouble" thing but it still worked since Makoto had been a part of the story since the beginning + Kaneshiro was a good villain. The Futaba arc worked because of Futaba's and the protagonist's mutual connection to Sojiro. The Sae and Shido arcs worked well because both characters had been recurring characters since the beginning and also had ties to important characters in the story. The Okumura arc, however? No build up. He was the dad of a character that had appeared briefly two-three times before and whose name we didn't even know, and that's about it. I don't think his name was mentioned even once in the main story before his arc began. If Haru had appeared more frequently and we had received just a little bit more information about him before the fifth arc then it would probably have fit in better with the rest of the game. The dungeon was still enjoyable though, the airlocks were annoying but I liked flying through space. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
PeenusWeenusCaim said: They know how to do LGBT characters. They made Jun and you can romance him in Persona 2. They made Erica. And although I wouldn't say Kanji is gay, his dungeon showed that Atlus is at least aware of the stereotyping that comes to gays. Aaaand they resort to generic stereotyping in the next big title... like they learned nothing, I heard that Atlus received lots of criticism about Yosuke in P4 being homophobic and how parts of Kani's arc were handled. The thing is, when you make an RPG, you're always going to have a lot of characters in them. Some minor, some major. Since minor characters are hardly essential to the story, they're always going to be defined by one trait or one trope. I didn't find it funny either but I'm not going to get upset about it. It's a minor joke scene about a sexual encounter in the sex district of Japan. Now if Atlus introduced a major gay character in something like P6 as a social link and characterized him like the Shinjuku dudes, we're going to have a problem. The problem is that when the only depiction of a particular group in media is a negative stereotype, impressionable people who have little experience with said group could take said stereotype as being accurate to real people, and many people irl already think of gay people as weirdos and potential child abusers. |
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