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Oct 27, 2014 7:18 PM
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I've seen some people say they are and some people say they aren't real and just made up to make Koyomi jealous.

I myself have unfortunately not had the time to read the light novel so I was wondering if anyone here could enlighten me.

- the wikia says that Nekomonogatari Black light novel volume told us they were made up but I didn't see anything in Nekomonogatari Black at first glance ( I didn't read through it completely )
vazkroOct 27, 2014 7:40 PM
Oct 27, 2014 8:23 PM
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Further details are unknown.
Though it is one of the author's habit naming characters with puns/wordplays, the name are pretty much unconvincing for something real.

Take example, Tsukihi's bf name: Rousokuzawa. Rousoku is pun on 'candle', Tsukihi's name being one of fire aspect further proves the pun.

Mizudori, Karen's bf name: Mizu is water. Karen has fire in her name.

Though the kanji of both rousoku and mizu is not the actual 'candle' and 'water' kanji, they are intended pun, IMO.
Oct 28, 2014 2:50 AM
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thanks for the quick reaction yukaro00 ! The author at moments feels like such a troll lol. Sure Koyomi is already in a relationship and an incest ending is one of the least possible endings but it still feels weird to just give boyfriends to the sisters that have a total brocon just for the sake of them having boyfriends.

Ah whatever, I am probably too hyped up atm since I am rewatching all currently aired monogatari anime seasons which should cool down soon enough.

So cheers for the answer.
Oct 28, 2014 3:55 AM
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I think it's most possible that their boyfriend is real. But the LN not fully translated yet so no concrete prove about those rumor about why it real or not though.

Yeah the wiki is misleading, that's why i want to read a fully translated LN since it's true that Shaft cut some of the scene in the series, well not the crucial one, it was just pieces of information that we didn't get like something like this.
Oct 28, 2014 3:56 AM
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either way Araragi's still kissing them and brushing their teeth anyway, so who cares?
Oct 28, 2014 4:11 AM
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I don't really remember the details since it's been a long time since I've watched any-Monogatari save for Hanamonogatari recently, but didn't they made them up based on Koyomi's image? For example, Karen's boyfriend is shorter than her since Koyomi is shorter than her and vice-versa for Tsukihi.

Oct 28, 2014 4:25 AM
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EasyGo-er said:
I don't really remember the details since it's been a long time since I've watched any-Monogatari save for Hanamonogatari recently, but didn't they made them up based on Koyomi's image? For example, Karen's boyfriend is shorter than her since Koyomi is shorter than her and vice-versa for Tsukihi.
There is no prove of that unless on wiki. Probably on the novel but like i said the novel not fully translated.
Nov 5, 2014 8:36 AM
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It is highly possible that they could be lying given the troll nature of Monogatari.

I mean the season is even called NISEmonogatari.
Nov 5, 2014 10:34 PM
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No. -> http://bakemonogatari.wikia.com/wiki/Karen_Araragi

"It was revealed that the reason she and Tsukihi made up boyfriends was so that Koyomi would become jealous. They found boyfriends in Koyomi's image with Karen's boyfriend being shorter than her. She and Tsukihi also thought that Koyomi's girlfriend was Tsubasa. "

But it wasn't shown on the anime for some reason.
I'm pretty sure it's 150% legit. The internet is legit.
Nov 7, 2014 1:48 PM

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I think the boyfriends are real. Other posters have mentioned that the info they provided is from Neko: Kuro and Nise, both of which are shown from Koyomi's POV. In Neko: Shiro (both the anime and the novel), it's stated that Koyomi is jealous and worried that his sisters are being taken away from him (a typical doting/over-protective big brother reaction), and so pretends the boyfriends don't exist. This also provides a possible reason as to why the boyfriends are portrayed more strongly as not existing in Neko: Kuro and Nise (I actually don't remember those myself, since it's been a while since I last saw/read Neko: Kuro, and even longer since I last saw Nise, so I'm just going by what others have said), since, again, they're from Koyomi's POV.

In Neko: Shiro, not only is Koyomi's POV nowhere to be found, but the boyfriends are mentioned in a conversation he's not involved in, and in the context of making a point about Tsubasa. In that context, I can't see any point in playing up non-existent boyfriends. Also, in that conversation both Karen and Tsukihi are (for the most part) being straight with Tsubasa. The only thing they're not straight about is that Koyomi asked about love regarding her, not Senjougahara. Given that, it doesn't make sense they'd lie about their boyfriends to Tsubasa.

Also, while I'm pretty sure the wordplay in the boyfriends' names is intentional, that on its own isn't any kind of indicator that they're not real. It could just be fitting, because both Karen and Tsukihi's names have the kanji for "fire" in them. (Nisio doesn't seem to use wordplay randomly). Also, the fact that Karen's boyfriend is shorter than her doesn't mean anything. Karen is really tall for her age, so it's natural that most boys her age would be shorter than she is. That seems to be a pretty simple explanation.
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vazkro said:
I've seen some people say they are and some people say they aren't real and just made up to make Koyomi jealous.

I myself have unfortunately not had the time to read the light novel so I was wondering if anyone here could enlighten me.

- the wikia says that Nekomonogatari Black light novel volume told us they were made up but I didn't see anything in Nekomonogatari Black at first glance ( I didn't read through it completely )


Nah. After everything on this thread + they said " my BF is like you " , they meant that they loved Araragi. Everything they said about BF was actually traits about Araragi.

I have no proof but very likely + what they said here
Sep 11, 2015 8:53 PM

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In Nekomonogatari Kuro ep 1 Koyomi asks Tsukihi about her bf and why she fell in love with him, she refused to tell why and said that she just kind of did and by her reaction one can assume she meant Koyomi, and there is possibility that even if her bf was real he would resemble Koyomi.



and then she make him to think that he doesn't love Tsubasa just lusts for her, so one can think she didn't want him to date Tsubasa.
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vazkro said:
I've seen some people say they are and some people say they aren't real and just made up to make Koyomi jealous.

I myself have unfortunately not had the time to read the light novel so I was wondering if anyone here could enlighten me.

- the wikia says that Nekomonogatari Black light novel volume told us they were made up but I didn't see anything in Nekomonogatari Black at first glance ( I didn't read through it completely )


Nah. After everything on this thread + they said " my BF is like you " , they meant that they loved Araragi. Everything they said about BF was actually traits about Araragi.

I have no proof but very likely + what they said here


I agree.
I only briefly researched this on the internet but I thoroughly re-watched the episodes in which there were Koyomi, Karen and Tsukihi interacting with each other.
I agree that the sister's boyfriend is simply the protagonist, but not only because of the height and personality (Tsukihi's boyfriend is taller than her. Karen's boyfriend is shorter. Koyomi Araragi's height perfectly fits.
Basically those few times that the Araragi sisters describe their boyfriends they just describe Koyomi's traits. They even said that they like their boyfriends because they "resemble" Koyomi. This is simply a pun but it is almost clear that the misterious boyfriend is Koyomi).

During Nisemonogatari Tsukihi says that her boyfriend isn't getting along with Karen, the same time when Karen has a fight with Koyomi shortly after.
The sisters behaviour is pretty clear too. Tsukihi gried to kiss Koyomi. When Koyomi kisses her she is just supposedly "pissed" but not shocked or angry, then she says that she still hasn't kissed her boyfriend ( That fits since it is the first time Tsukihi and Koyomi kiss).

Before the famous/infamous theeth brushing scene Karen says that she almost suicided because of some mean things that Koyomi said when they were little. She then says that she grew an hate towards evil and became a warrior of justice because, again, of Koyomi.
Almost every girl in the show, if not every single one, love Koyomi, so it wouldn't be weird but actually normal to add these sisters to the harem.
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The boyfriends are both real and not. By means of breaking the 4th and 5th wall on this anime, Araragi himself became part of the staff as he seems have the authority to approve or disapprove the proposition of their existence.

While He denies them, the boyfriends does not exist. His sisters however are part of the staff that introduces the idea about the boyfriends and is relying on Araragi if it will be approve or not but it is obvious that they are just aliases they give to Ararargi and their actions/status just mirrors Araragi. The proposed characters does not even have no script of their own at all. They probably just want an Araragi of their own.

Araragi,Tsubasa&Gaen seems to have advance knowledge about the events that will happen as well as the info as their dialog implies. These characters are part of the staff. Some of them have more knowledge than the other and some have complete knowledge about everything about the anime.
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