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Kirigiri50 said: The survivior count thing might be miseleading depending on wether its a in universe or out of universe device. They did state the wristbands monitor their heart rates to tell whose alive so hypothetically juzo chopping off his arm counted him as dead. However this also means there indeed is a 16th participant that they are going to cram into this finale since hagakure never got one. I was hoping this could of been confirmed or not by either of the pas 2 episodes having an opening but i also feel like they specifically did that just to hide that kirigiri might be alive.I am suprise people still think Kirgiri is somehow alive.?I love Kirgiri looking at my account name you can already tell. But I don t think she is alive at this point,because it been too long why would her being alive accomplish at this point besides fanservice? I want her to be alive,I was putting my gamble on her being six survivors but she is dead Juzo was the survivor not her. I understand people think that Kirgiri death was lame and was only for shock value. I am anger Kodaka kill her for that.Despite her Intelligence allow her to be smart enough,To know cutting her arm off. Would disable NG code even Juzo somehow figure it out. I think Kirgiri is smarter than Juzo being detective and all. Overall this episode is pretty good.,I know Its cliffhanger. Which will continue on Kibou side. I am not sure why are people are so dissapointed, I am quite please with this episode. Seeing Munakata Becoming badass and his love for my Belove Chisa makes me happy haha^^. I just hope Kodaka don t kill Munakata It be waste after all build up on his character. Asahina I don t know If she live or dead .But her chances are pretty low,Considering how brainwash soldiers try to gun down Munakata. I think They use Asahina as hostage against Naegi or kill her In front of him or kill her outright. Yeah I agree that Tengan reason are pretty lame to Kill everyone In Future foundation just to push Mitarai to do hope video. I think It also because he think, Future foundation members can t be help anymore. As He think they always keep fighting each other and are not part of his plan to restore hope to the world. theres alot of ambiguity to things, but frankly leaving kirigiri out of the death montage seemed suspicious as shit as to her being alive. They should of revealed it by now if they were going to do it but i bet you its for a reason as dumb as "well the final episodes of both arcs are meant to be downer endings where all hope is lost so hope arc will be the uplifting part". but ultimately they just kind of fucked the pacing unless hope arc really does wind up being the 40 minute special it needs to be. We will see in a few days but while im accepting that shes dead just not to get my hopes up, i really deep down dont buy her dying until the show ends for good. We'll find out for sure in 2 days anyway, so we'll see if i eat shit or not soon. HyperL said: this is how ive been since about episode 9, i just want an end to the ambiguity and see it through to the end.AAAAAAJKADJHJDFGHLDZFID...I can't wait Hope-hen, and the funny part is that it's not even because of hype...I just want to see how everything will turn out as soon as possible... Maybe this was their true plan...Makes us eager to watch the final episode out of worry... |
JizzyHitlerSep 27, 2016 11:22 AM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Beth_Masey said: Loogs said: ]It makes a lot of sense why he did what he did when you consider his status in society, as well as Japanese society itself. He didn't just lie to Munakata about Junko to avoid romantic awkwardness, but also because Japan is still pretty backwards about these matters. Homosexuality tends to not be seen as "masculine", while Juzo, a public figure, is the very image of masculinity. Being outed could potentially (just potentially, but the possibility is terrifying to him) lose not only Munakata's respect, which already means the world to him, but also the world itself's. What he did wasn't smart or right, but it was human. In the end, he's a very flawed but very human character. Junko was able to use this against him because that's what she does. I'm sure a better show would've been able to pull this off in a more compelling way, but for what it is I think DR3 pulled off Juzo's storyline very well. I think you're thinking too much into the possible effects of him saying otherwise (then again, I'm practically no better), but in any case, while keeping the sort of secret is understandable, I have major doubts that any of those negative things would have ever happened to him (especially in the world of Danganronpa) due to being that very reliable and well-respected important figure, especially regarding Munakata, one of his closest friends, and especially when comparing that decision to handling such a dangerous figure like Junko that both Munakata and even Juzo himself knew the capabilities she had. It should be clear as to what to choose over the other. And this is just me (since characters can be viewed as humanistic or not in numerous ways, though most are rather subjective), but I don't really find him humanistic, nor many of the characters in DR in many instances. I may be reading too much into it, sure, but that's only because there's something to read into. I'll admit it's also easy for me because I can relate to Juzo, to an extent. I can see why he chose to do what he did, which even he didn't think was the right thing to do. Like, it's really clear that he wasn't exactly brimming with confidence over his choice in Despair 11. But the thing is, we can't know what would've happened. We never will know what happened. All that we know is what Juzo was afraid would happen, and that's not something he was prepared to risk. You can doubt it all you want, but his actions make it clear that what I described was a real possibility. There's of course also the possibility that he would've been accepted just fine, which I think only adds to the tragedy. |
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| I am probably beating a dead horse here to an already answered question, but is the next episode REALLY just 20 minutes? Like even if it doesnt make it to that 40 minute mark is it even possible to see it maybe cut advertisement time to make it around 26 or something. I am genuinely pretty pissed they wasted time on that metaphorical theater when we are so tight on time for all these plotpoints especially cause im fully convinced they only did it just so nothing hopeful would happen this episode. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: I am probably beating a dead horse here to an already answered question, but is the next episode REALLY just 20 minutes? Like even if it doesnt make it to that 40 minute mark is it even possible to see it maybe cut advertisement time to make it around 26 or something. I am genuinely pretty pissed they wasted time on that metaphorical theater when we are so tight on time for all these plotpoints especially cause im fully convinced they only did it just so nothing hopeful would happen this episode. I'm also worried about it...There's no way they can take care of everything in just more 20 minutes...It needs MOAR time... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
HyperL said: It really depends on what they will pull the next episode. Like if we do a kirigiri is alive reveal then we might barely be fitting it in, if we do a 16th participant reveal then we sure as fuck dont have enough time, if we do both then the episode is fucked beyond repair. If they do neither though then the entire episode will basically be left to hinata and naegi taking mitarai down which would just lead to alot of unanswered questions about things especially how exactly the NG codes worked and who the fuck transported them all to the lower floor. Like i really think as unlikely as it is to be shown this late that there needs to be a reveal of someone who helped tengan out to do all this. Like was hagakure really considered to be on the survivor count this whole time? Cause apparently kodaka said he wasnt back when episode 1 screened but that could always be a mistranslation. Personally i feel like a 16th participant would answer so many questions as well as make tengan's plan more sound since he could of had the 16th looking after mitarai to make sure he didnt die, as well as answer who was handling the NG codes and so forth.JizzyHitler said: I am probably beating a dead horse here to an already answered question, but is the next episode REALLY just 20 minutes? Like even if it doesnt make it to that 40 minute mark is it even possible to see it maybe cut advertisement time to make it around 26 or something. I am genuinely pretty pissed they wasted time on that metaphorical theater when we are so tight on time for all these plotpoints especially cause im fully convinced they only did it just so nothing hopeful would happen this episode. I'm also worried about it...There's no way they can take care of everything in just more 20 minutes...It needs MOAR time... This really needs more details given to make the plot kind of salvage itself but not only am i worried they wont even do it im worried that even if they do it there wont be enough time. I fully blame kishi seiji for this cause that guy cant do pacing. |
JizzyHitlerSep 27, 2016 12:29 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Not the best kind of finale, but hey, looking forward to the Hope Chapter. This show's been a good ride, I can't complain. 9/10. |
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kacaj said: I can see a twist coming like: They stop Mitarai from uploading the video. After that he realizes, that by some mistake he would be broadcasting the game´s video or any other despair-inducing video. I´m just sure, that how the things are looking now aren´t right. The video where Tengan admits that he´s the mastermind is weird too. Firstly he acts in a weird half-assed way, maybe someone modified the voice. But I find the fact that he had time to prepare a video for Mitarai, but didn´t have time to take Ryota out of the vicinity of the game and make a spectator from him as he originally planned weird. If he didn´t count with Ryota coming to the game he should´ve had one less bangle prepared ... I guess the creators aren´t taking logic seriously there or just didn´t think it through. No offense but I think youre kind to missing a portion of the episode, the video was so half assed cause tengan was pretending to be a despair to trick mitarai into thinking despair is so powerful it got to not only the participant but tengan himself so that it would push mitarai over the edge to brainwash all of humanity as a solution. Tengan didnt account for mitarai to ever show up and that was a fault of his plan but he really kind of just got what he wants at the current moment. The hope video cant be tampered with cause mitarai is the one who made it and is the only one who has it. I dont think there will be any last minute twists unless they pull a 16th participant twist like i really think they should cause it'd explain alot of questions that will otherwise be plotholes. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Here's to a happy ending full of hope |
| "My name is John Locke, and I'm responsible for the well being of this Island" |
| Finale felt a bit mediocre. Personally I preferred Despair over this but I still liked this more than last season. Honestly I don't think they'll ever quite reach the game's level, but it's not too bad. |
| cant really blame mitarai but still I'm triggered by him why order the soldier to kill and damn hinata just pounded some asses really hope kirigiri is still alive |
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| Man, so Kirigiri really is dead? Damn.. Well honestly, they did a poor job of killing her off because I usually have tears when my favorite character dies.. Oh well. Overall, I was going to give it an 8 but now I give it a 7. The whole "brainwashing" videos and stuff is a bit too much, like seriously.. That seems like the easy way out. And now Mitarai is going to brainwash the entire world with a hope video? Get out. That sounds pretty stupid in my opinion. So the whole killing game was just to get Mitarai to broadcast that video hey.. How lame. Overall: 7/10 |
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Gem said: you might want to wait till hope arc before saying this. Ogata kind of teased she might be alive and her being left out of the death montage is suspicious to put it lightly.Man, so Kirigiri really is dead? Damn.. Well honestly, they did a poor job of killing her off because I usually have tears when my favorite character dies.. Oh well. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Angry_Always said: MightyM16 said: He is meant to be an asshole and you are given reasons to understand why he is like that, so yeah he has a well writen character arc even if he didn't turn out to be likable for you Junko used his weakness against him, just like Mondo's weakness caused him to kill Chihiro in DR1, here Juzo ended up helping Junko in her plans It's not about him being likable to me. I don't like Ruruka but I feel she was given a good character arc. Juzo went from hardheaded and loyal to doting and insecure and then placed the blame on another like a child. I saw him as gruff, uncaring and level headed, not one I liked but that's who he was. His character just became full of holes later on in both respective series. Simply put, Juzo isn't a nice person, he had a personal vendetta against Junko because of what she put him through and he wanted that, he got pissed with Naegi because he took that vendetta away from him. His actions are understandable once you understand his conflict in general, his weakness, that is, what he feels for his best friend IMO he had one of the stronger character arcs in DR3 Gem said: Man, so Kirigiri really is dead? Damn.. Well honestly, they did a poor job of killing her off because I usually have tears when my favorite character dies.. Oh well. Overall, I was going to give it an 8 but now I give it a 7. The whole "brainwashing" videos and stuff is a bit too much, like seriously.. That seems like the easy way out. And now Mitarai is going to brainwash the entire world with a hope video? Get out. That sounds pretty stupid in my opinion. So the whole killing game was just to get Mitarai to broadcast that video hey.. How lame. Overall: 7/10 It isn't a easy way out because it isn't a way out, it's also awfully destructive and extreme method, which is why Mitarai didn't want to broadcast it |
| I'll be honest, even if i come off as a super waifufag saying this, but ill forgive alot of the show's messy final bits if kirigiri actually has a good comeback, her death slowly started to feel more and more cheap after it went on but i can honestly forgive it if her whole deal was to fool mitarai/possible 16th as well as the audience by doing it. I just think it might be a bit too late to really pull it off well. fucking kishi seiji cant doing finale's at all, he always does this where he forces ever plotpoint to get resolved last minute causing a mess of pacing. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| So why wouldn't Tengan do what a normal person would do? You know... ask. |
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| I don't think brainwashing for hope will help... hopefully everything will be better in the finale. |
| HajiZuru destroyer appears! Well I gave mirai-hen 5/10 .It had boring conclusion, it was horribly rushed, and had boring characters that were all killed anyway. Waiting for Kibou-hen, I HOPE that it will be somewhat better than mirai-hen. |
| It says in first ep, there are 16 participants. Are these numbers was sett by tengan or by the studio? If it was kazuo's, so he predicted there are 16 participants including hakagure and excluding mitarai. Tengan was surprised that mitarai was joining the game. So tengan might switch a bracelet which supposed to be hakagure's. |
We did this every day that summer. There wasn’t a day we missed.  "I love you, air conditioner." |
| ...wow. Now I remember why I didn't like the first season even though I was really entertained. Not because of the pink blood. But because of how it ended. They were killing each other, students who somehow lost their memories and when it ended they revealed that everything was because of the most ridiculous, unbelievable shit ever, desfuckingpair. Like it's a virus or something. Seriously it was so ridiculous it changed my entire understanding of what the show was really about. 12 episodes of awesome, thrilling and intense horror and it was ruined at the end, because of despair. And the whole world is in chaos because of it. Like a zombie-apocalypse. AND THEN THEY FUCKING DID IT again in this season. Video that makes people a remnant of despair? Video that brain-washes people and give them false hope that will be broadcasted to the whole world? The fuck is this Uchiha Madara shit? I'm so fucking disappointed. And that Enoshima appearance in the end what's that supposed to mean. haha these "plot-twist" is just so bad.. so bad. I don't know what's gonna happen in the hope side but I'm not expecting anything. |
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| DIRECTOR: What can we do to make brainwashing more effective? WRITER: MAAAAWWWRRRR BBBBRRRAAAINWASHING!!!! Welp. At least Hinata/Izuru is sure to come back in Hope Arc. I've decided to lower both Zetsubou and Mirai's score to 6. Such a disappointment. After Hope, I'll wait for the PC release of the New Danganronpa 3 to brainwash myself. |
RyuugamonoSep 28, 2016 8:26 AM
All people have their own sh*t tastes, therefore, there are no sh*t tastes, since everything is equally sh*t. A VERY LOGICAL PHILOSOPHY |
| Junko's statement in the final episode of Despair Arc about a world were you try to completely eliminate despair is a despairful world actually fits this episode. Tengan out of desperation and weariness decided to just say Fuck Human Rights and Human Essence. I can't believe Chisa managed to manipulate him to go to the point that they'd brainwash the world with Mitarai's anime. Everything was setup just to push Mitarai off the edge WTF. That was pretty lackluster. So Izuru bitchslapped the entire fleet alone and made his way to the base to stop Mitarai wow. Mitarai views hope as nothing ever happening. That is worst than Infinite Tsukoyumi or Emperor Charles Vi Brittania's everlasting world without lies. |
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| Haaaaah! Oh, you, Tengan, my sweet little troll! Gonna post my impressions and questions of this episode based on possibly non-official subs, so feel free to correct me. Anyways, i'm still confused with the whole thing. Naegi's explanations in both situations (how the killings happened and Tengan's actions) doesn't completely convince me. Not sure if it is a problem with the production/direction of the story or if this was intended to be a way to deceive us from the truth that should be reveleaed on Kibou. The main question that has been even made since the beggining of this thread was: How come Tengan wasn't expecting Mitarai to come? Naegi even says there is the possibility that he wasn't invited. And that meeting was supposed to be a secret one. So then, who invited Mitarai? Tengan must definitely had some involvement in the making of this killing game. Kirigiri comments (in ep. 3) how he didn't seem that worried. Gonna continue later. Have several a few chores pending. |
| Mediocre episode in my opinion, it feels rushed and many things don't make sense. Tengan's plan was half-assed and nonsensical. Ratings are gonna plummet lol. Anyway, we'll see I suppose. |
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| Great episode! I'm really looking forward to the actual ending. |
| NOOOOOOOOO! Danganronpa Mirai-hen left the 8.00 mark...It's all ruined now... At least Zetsubou-hen is still up there... I wonder if Kibou-Hen will somehow make Mirai-hen above 7.99 again... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| I am not sure about the truth behind this information. But it seems like Kibo-hen will be around 30 minutes long. |
Dashingfella said: HyperL said: NOOOOOOOOO! Danganronpa Mirai-hen left the 8.00 mark...It's all ruined now... At least Zetsubou-hen is still up there... I wonder if Kibou-Hen will somehow make Mirai-hen above 7.99 again... Why do people care so much about Myanimelist scores? They are fan scores, not real critics like rottentomatoes for.example. Well, the answer to this question would be: because they represent the average opinion of the masses... I'm not one of those though...This case in particular is because the decrease just shows how many people were disappointed with it... |
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