| I was simply wondering if some people were like me and just prefered series that are ''worse'' than other on a same base material. To illustrate my point, I'll take Fate/Stay Night, that I prefered a little bit over Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works and Fate/zero, while I hear that FSN is the worse of the serie, according to almost everyone else. Anyone in that case? |
| Please do not get offended by my takes; I have shit taste. |
| The truth is, liking Fate/Stay Night 2006, or the visual novel route it was based on, is objectively wrong. Trust me, I'm the guy to know what the truth is. |
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| I'll say it. F/SN is not worse of the three nor I'm saying there is a worse of the three. It's just that it was overshadowed by ufotable's CG animation of F/Z and F/SN:UBW. |
| "This (anime) industry is weird" - Chitose Karasuma, Gi(a)rlish Number I hope someday someone in an anime would say, "The (anime) viewers are weird." |
| Fate/loli and Carnival Phantasm are objectively the best, so liking UBW means that you have inferior preferences. |
| UBW is worse than /Zero, but has slightly better animation and digital effects, but that's like comparing a 10/10 to a 10.3/10. UBW had weaker characters, and much weaker story line, and has characters disappear, which is annoying. However, it has awesome action, great OPs, actually decent EDs (the ones in /Zero were boring), and a nice epilogue. I still say that /Zero trumps this in almost every aspect. |
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| Of course fate/Loli Liner Yuri is awesome, yet I don,t know myself why I like more FSN over the rest. I think I have a thing for early 2000 animes, even though it's one of the period that I know the less, I just loved what I watched from it : Rozen maiden, Black Lagoon and FSN. I think there is a little something in the animation and the songs ^^ |
| Please do not get offended by my takes; I have shit taste. |
| is this just another crap fate thread? or do you have other examples of this? |
Zelkiiro said: The truth is, liking Fate/Stay Night 2006, or the visual novel route it was based on, is objectively wrong. Trust me, I'm the guy to know what the truth is. Oh yes the Fate route was the absolute worst. The only thing I liked about it is when Shirou got burned by Saber hard during their date because his reaction to it was priceless. |
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| I didn't intended to start a Fate thread And nobody answered my base question, I'm quite sad T_T |
| Please do not get offended by my takes; I have shit taste. |
| This is a pretty difficult question. Are you looking a for an opinion like, Season 1 Black butler is better than season 2 Black butler. or Kill la Kill is better than Gurren Lagann? or is it spin off stuff? Yuru Yuri > oomuroke |
| I don't care. |
Tenshi_Shura said: Oh yes the Fate route was the absolute worst. The only thing I liked about it is when Shirou got burned by Saber hard during their date because his reaction to it was priceless. That scene would've been great if Saber then didn't get all omgsad when Shirou looked back. Fuck that noise--Saber being disappointed is one thing, but about to cry her eyes out? Fuck you, Nasu. That leaves only one genuinely great scene in the Fate route, and that was when Shirou discovered the secret chamber in the Kotomine church. That shit was creepy, yo. |
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| Spinoff> Originals? There are some examples, like Railgun > Index. |
| Just like what you like. Nobody gives a damn on what you think is better-and move on. |
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| Yeah, I'm tlaking more about spinoffs, except when the sequel/prequel REALLy differs from the original work so that you can have a clear preference for one or another. Yet I don't know myself why the FSN route is my favourite so far, I know that Zero and UBW are objectively better, and that's why I'm asking that question ^^ |
| Please do not get offended by my takes; I have shit taste. |
| i do think the old fate stay night is more entertaining than the new one, mostly cause of the unintentionally funny scenes, i felt bored with the UFO version most of the time |
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Zelkiiro said: Tenshi_Shura said: Oh yes the Fate route was the absolute worst. The only thing I liked about it is when Shirou got burned by Saber hard during their date because his reaction to it was priceless. That scene would've been great if Saber then didn't get all omgsad when Shirou looked back. Fuck that noise--Saber being disappointed is one thing, but about to cry her eyes out? Fuck you, Nasu. That leaves only one genuinely great scene in the Fate route, and that was when Shirou discovered the secret chamber in the Kotomine church. That shit was creepy, yo. After lecturing and trying to put some sense into Shirou, she then proceeds to turn tail in the argument. She didn't even budge in the area just so Shirou could run back to her at the bridge like in a typical Korean drama. Impeccable writing! xEzioAuditore said: But it's a shame that we didn't get to know more of Assassin's in both route (Especially, Zero's) and Rider also didn't get enough screen play. In the 2006 route she had more but she's weak, an attribute a servant shouldn't have. She's not as weak you make her out to be. Under the right circumstances, she was able to fight toe to toe with Saber in Fate route who was undeniably the strongest Servant at that time excluding Berserker. |
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| Thank you CrimsonYukito, I think you are actually the first to answer my f*cking question xD |
| Please do not get offended by my takes; I have shit taste. |
| For most people it depends on how different the two compared anime are, I think. For example some people hate the second season of Darker the Black because of the differences with the first season, at the same time those same differences made people that hated S1 like S2. With anime vs source material, from what I've seen people will usually prefer the source material. Unless it's an action heavy series that is; colors, ost, voice acting and animation tip the scales too hard in an anime's favor compared to its source in this case. |
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| I like the Eva rebuilds more than the original and Arise more than SAC (though the original movie is the best of the franchise). The rebuilds lose out on certain "iconic" scenes as people have called them (like Shinji waiting at te train station and he and Misato sitting in silence for 3 minutes) but were more focused on the battles (in the first movie) and what made those battles important in terms of character development. These ideas were, of course, all included in the original show, but the movies framed them more concisely. In the second movie, it's almost entirely focused on the character interactions and I feel much the same way about the this movie and te part of the show it covers, only this time with Asuka. Haven't watched the 3rd one yet. Arise is simply a good action flick with simple themes that relating to cybernetic technology. It builds up nicely and has some of my favorite fight scenes. SAC is a partly episodic cop drama. It's plot is good and it's better at the scifi elements than many shows of the genre, but I think people puff that aspect up too much. It's stand alone episodes do well at exploring some implications of the cyberpunk setting but are honestly kind of boring aside from that. Those implications are interesting to think about at first, and some add to characterization, but I'd rather see the far more interesting plot unfold and the characters aren't strong enough to make it much more than an above average scifi for me. I don't have any real issue with it aside from OST (which isn't bad on its own but is unfitting) and art, I remembered it looking good but upon rewatch the models look like shit and the setting design is terribly boring. The whole show is pretty average looking in most parts. Arise's soundtrack isn't as listenable outside of the show, but it's more important that it fits and damn does that OST fit the atmosphere. Art is comparable, the character designs have lower quality but better design (less lumpy but don't look/feel as much like the original design). Anyway, the original GitS almost matches the intense fights of Arise while outclassing both in themes and aesthetic by a landslide. |
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Offensively said: Just like what you like. Nobody gives a damn on what you think is better-and move on. What the freak, we match sigs. Yuumei fan? |
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| Op, you are literally just saying you have different opinions than others, dont know exactly what is wrong. |
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| I like OG Naruto better than Shippuden, I feel that Naruto had better fights/strategies than Shippuden. |
xEzioAuditore said: Tenshi_Shura said: She's not as weak you make her out to be. Under the right circumstances, she was able to fight toe to toe with Saber in Fate route who was undeniably the strongest Servant at that time excluding Berserker. Her Noble Phantasm wasn't something special. And it's normal any servant can fight another toe to toe. They say Saber is the strongest but I've never seen her as the strongest. Berserk & the previous Archer are a bit stronger. And so is the actual Archer. Assassin is weak because he has an ordinary Nodachi, even Saber admited that he's a fearsome enemy and it would be even harder if he has a good sword. And there's probably no way Saber could defeat Caster in the 2nd season. And in the Zero route, Berserk & Rider wasn't strong enough. But you remember the Lancer fight? The caster wasn't too strong also. Her Noble Phantasm is almost as strong as Excalibur though and no it isn't necessarily normal for Servants to have an equal footing with others. Some Servants naturally have their own advantages. In the case of Saber and Rider, Saber could easily outmatch Rider in close combat however because of the advantages that Rider created for herself (fighting in air) she was able to hold off Saber for a long time that's why I said under the right circumstances some weaker Servants could potentially kill stronger ones. xEzioAuditore said: Berserk & the previous Archer are a bit stronger. And so is the actual Archer.. That's why I said excluding Berserker and using Gilgamesh for comparison is unfair honestly. By actual Archer, if you're referring to Rin's Archer, he's not that strong. xEzioAuditore said: And there's probably no way Saber could defeat Caster in the 2nd season. She can because the 3 Knight classes all have Magic Resistance with Saber in particular being the highest. Most of Caster's magic wouldn't work effectively against Saber but she's a crafty magician so she can work it out. xEzioAuditore said: And in the Zero route, Berserk & Rider wasn't strong enough. But you remember the Lancer fight? The caster wasn't too strong also. But they are though? Berserker gave Gilgamesh a run for his money and Rider didn't seem strong enough because he didn't get a proper fight. His fight with Gilgamesh was a literal curbstomp. I won't comment on Saber vs Zero Lancer because my memory of it is vague but Caster also gave a lot of Servants trouble. |
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Imawsomandhot said: Offensively said: Just like what you like. Nobody gives a damn on what you think is better-and move on. What the freak, we match sigs. Yuumei fan? Of course. She's amazing. Have you seen her latest work? |
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| I won't say I like it more than it's prequel, but I loved Nisemonogatari, who is considered the weakest entry of the Monogatari Series, despite the things people says ruined it (extreme fanservice, more lighhearted than it's predecessor...). |
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