Anime fan girls, what do u think about transexual women (women who used to be men) going into girls locker rooms
YatoKirigaya said: oh please.The reason that I have the opinion I do about the locker room situation is that allowing former men to enter the girls locker room would mean that any perv could say "I feel like a women today" and go rape some girl in the locker room. the world would be so much better if people actually cared as much about rape as they do about furthering their thinly veiled transphobia. edit: ot - i absolutely do not feel uncomfortable with the idea of sharing my locker room with women. what i do feel uncomfortable about is the idea of forcing women to use the men's locker room when we know that trans women are statistically most likely to get assulted/raped/murdered. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
Clebardman said: edit: I'm going to edit that post to make it clear: okay, a mtf trans MIGHT rape you. Like, it can happen. You can also be struck by a meteor or lighting bolt. ikr. and i would bet serious money that those people perpetuating the idea of trans women being potential rapists are the same people who go into complete hysterical fits when someone uses the words "men" and "rapists" in the same sentence. besides, i have never heard of a single case of a trans woman raping cis women or anyone else, but i've heard of hundreds of cases of cis men raping or killing trans women. so all of these people who are concerned about ~women's safety~ can honestly eat shit but that's just my onion. trans women are the one's whose safety we should be most worried about. case closed. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
Rarusu_ said: traed said: They're talking about locker rooms though. Also why do the females get their own room? Only explanation I have for that is to do makeup so they dont take up space in the main restrooms. Still, they could save up a lot of space. Would be more simple and efficient. I don't know, when I go in there they start screaming and then some guy who works there will try and throw me out. If a female use the men's place she can. Seriously I've seen girls screaming patriarchy, that they aren't really girls, etc, when they've been thrown out of there by some guard. You could have restrooms with real walls and doors instead of stalls. Then for locker rooms I dont know how they could private areas for that. Maybe one area with private spaces for changing another for showering and another for where the lockers are where everyone is at once. Now you're affirming my fear of walking into the wrong place. I stand there looking at the signs multiple times before going in. kawaiiyuris said: Clebardman said: edit: I'm going to edit that post to make it clear: okay, a mtf trans MIGHT rape you. Like, it can happen. You can also be struck by a meteor or lighting bolt. ikr. and i would bet serious money that those people perpetuating the idea of trans women being potential rapists are the same people who go into complete hysterical fits when someone uses the words "men" and "rapists" in the same sentence. besides, i have never heard of a single case of a trans woman raping cis women or anyone else, but i've heard of hundreds of cases of cis men raping or killing trans women. so all of these people who are concerned about ~women's safety~ can honestly eat shit but that's just my onion. trans women are the one's whose safety we should be most worried about. case closed. They make a small percentage of the population so of course you wouldnt hear it often. I was able to find one fairly quickly. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12183349/Girl-15-raped-by-transgender-woman.html It says they did it before transitioning. |
traedMay 22, 2016 6:37 AM
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traed said: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12183349/Girl-15-raped-by-transgender-woman.html It says they did it before transitioning. damn, got me there. guess this one case from a decade ago proves that all trans women are potential rapists. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
kawaiiyuris said: traed said: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12183349/Girl-15-raped-by-transgender-woman.html It says they did it before transitioning. damn, got me there. guess this one case from a decade ago proves that all trans women are potential rapists. I am not saying anything like that though. I dont think the rapist argument is a very good one but it doesnt mean they cant rape like any other person. |
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| couldn't a woman rape another woman in the girls locker room? How come nobody is concerned about that? If you were going to rape or sexually assault someone you would do it regardless IMO |
traed said: i never said they can't rape.kawaiiyuris said: damn, got me there. guess this one case from a decade ago proves that all trans women are potential rapists. I am not saying anything like that though. I dont think the rapist argument is a very good one but it doesnt mean they cant rape like any other person. i said i have never heard of a case (implication: it's rare) while i have heard of many many cases of trans women being raped and murdered (implication: it's common) following with "trans women are the one's whose safety we should be most worried about" (no implication, just a direct sentence) i thought it was pretty obvious what my point was. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
JD2411 said: couldn't a woman rape another woman in the girls locker room? How come nobody is concerned about that? If you were going to rape or sexually assault someone you would do it regardless IMO And stranger rape is not as common as people raping people they know. kawaiiyuris said: i never said they can't rape. i said i have never heard of a case (implication: it's rare) while i have heard of many many cases of trans women being raped and murdered (implication: it's common) following with "trans women are the one's whose safety we should be most worried about" (no implication, just a direct sentence) i thought it was pretty obvious what my point was. I was just making it so you had a case you now heard of since you havent heard of some. *shrugs* |
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| If gun control doesn't prevent terrorists and mass shooters, what makes you think some anti-trans law is going to prevent rape. This is such a stupid non-issue to make a big deal of. As I said before, you can't tell if someone is trans just by looking at them. So you people want to add an unnecessary security guard at bathrooms to check IDs, birth certificates, and genitalia? The latter would be far more awkward. kawaiiyuris said: YatoKirigaya said: oh please.The reason that I have the opinion I do about the locker room situation is that allowing former men to enter the girls locker room would mean that any perv could say "I feel like a women today" and go rape some girl in the locker room. the world would be so much better if people actually cared as much about rape as they do about furthering their thinly veiled transphobia. edit: ot - i absolutely do not feel uncomfortable with the idea of sharing my locker room with women. what i do feel uncomfortable about is the idea of forcing women to use the men's locker room when we know that trans women are statistically most likely to get assulted/raped/murdered. The same people who say a woman wearing a shirt skirt was provoking rape, and that the teenage boy who got raped by the "hot" teacher/milf cheerleader got lucky and he is nothing but a faggot for not enjoying it. These are usually the same people getting offended when a person of the same gender hits on them and currently this stupid non-issue over bathrooms and locker rooms. |
Riki_Oh said: I'm sure it's very easy to reject traditional ideas of shame while posting on the internet I don't give shit about "discomfort" or "modesty". I don't see anything wrong w/ people of the opposite gender seeing each other nude. My concern is that a rapist could pretend 2b a trans. Heres a case of that: http://www.torontosun.com/2014/02/26/predator-who-claimed-to-be-transgender-declared-dangerous-offender Unisex locker rooms would improve the issue, tho. A rapist would have to go through a bunch of men if he wanted 2 rape a woman. Unfortunately, the idea that men are required to protect women is not very prevalent in the U.S. right now. So, the problem isn't solved in my country. not sure about other countries. |
kawaiiyuris said: the world would be so much better if people actually cared as much about rape as they do about furthering their thinly veiled transphobia. "Transphobia" lmfao. This isn't a civil rights issue you wannabe victim. Your sexual preferences do not give you the right to special treatment |
lady_freyja said: Riki_Oh said: "Transphobia" lmfao. This isn't a civil rights issue you wannabe victim. Your sexual preferences do not give you the right to special treatment Before speaking about trans' issues. You should learn the basics, like: being trans' isn't a sexual preference. ~Usually, it's better to know what you are speaking about. I'm not even sure why people mix it up that easily. Last time I thought trans people were just gay people was like way back in middle school. |
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lady_freyja said: Before speaking about trans' issues. You should learn the basics, like: being trans' isn't a sexual preference. ~Usually, it's better to know what you are speaking about. No, that is exactly what it is. There is no transsexual gene. The only reason this is such a prevalent issue right now is because being trans has become trendy lately. I suggest you don't get your "education" from tumblr. |
cherrystyles805 said: If gun control doesn't prevent terrorists and mass shooters, what makes you think some anti-trans law is going to prevent rape. This is such a stupid non-issue to make a big deal of. As I said before, you can't tell if someone is trans just by looking at them. So you people want to add an unnecessary security guard at bathrooms to check IDs, birth certificates, and genitalia? The latter would be far more awkward. kawaiiyuris said: oh please. the world would be so much better if people actually cared as much about rape as they do about furthering their thinly veiled transphobia. edit: ot - i absolutely do not feel uncomfortable with the idea of sharing my locker room with women. what i do feel uncomfortable about is the idea of forcing women to use the men's locker room when we know that trans women are statistically most likely to get assulted/raped/murdered. The same people who say a woman wearing a shirt skirt was provoking rape, and that the teenage boy who got raped by the "hot" teacher/milf cheerleader got lucky and he is nothing but a faggot for not enjoying it. These are usually the same people getting offended when a person of the same gender hits on them and currently this stupid non-issue over bathrooms and locker rooms. Im totally against the idea of guards cheking peoples genitals. Also, I think those girls could tell a trans after she stripped btw. Read all of my damn posts before using 1 comment to make an ass of me! |
lady_freyja said: traed said: I'm not even sure why people mix it up that easily. Last time I thought trans people were just gay people was like way back in middle school. I guess that's a reason about why a lot of people prefer using "transgender" over "transsexual", because the "sexual" ending tends to imply a sexual orientation, like in "hetero/homo/bi/a-sexual". Well that is just when people slipup so that is part of it. I mean when people think it's a gay person trying to be like the opposite sex hopeing to get with someone. I'm not sure why people think that. Perhaps because of "sissy" gays, for lack of a better term. Although I have noticed some people throw it in with transvestic fetishism and autogynephilia/autoandrophilia which is at least somewhat understandable why they would confuse it for that if they do not know much since the behaviours are similar. |
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| If they still have their biological parts, they should be using the locker/bath rooms of their biological sex, imho. It's going to be hard for a trans man to piss in a small restroom that only had urinals, so in some cases, it's the most practical thing to do anyhow. Let's face it, anyone can claim they identify as the opposite sex (or some entirely made up gender) nowadays, so letting any ol' person into a locker/rest room regardless if their biological sex is going to cause problems. I'd just suggest unisex rest rooms to combat that issue, but that could just create more issues as well. Not everyone is going to feel comfortable sharing the same public toilet as penises or vaginas. |
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lady_freyja said: Sorry, I mainly use tumblr for following some artists and scanlation teams, and also in order to get some anime memes. But, there is genetic dispositions for being a trans' (like here and here), there is also some hints toward a "birth defect". There is some debates about psychological origins too. And I got those sources from Wikipedia. It's not like you have to search a lot for finding relevant sources. So, like I said: ~Usually, it's better to know what you are speaking about. None of those articles prove the existence of a transsexual gene. They are attempts to link genetic characteristics to being transsexual. You could just as easily link genetic characteristics to certain sexual preferences, this does not mean those preferences are genetic. Instead of copying and pasting links from wikipedia, how about you try thinking for yourself |
Riki_Oh said: kawaiiyuris said: the world would be so much better if people actually cared as much about rape as they do about furthering their thinly veiled transphobia. "Transphobia" lmfao. This isn't a civil rights issue you wannabe victim. Your sexual preferences do not give you the right to special treatment what the fuck are you even talking about. 1) being trans has nothing to do with sexuality. 2) what "special treatment"? being allowed to use locker rooms? get a grip lmao i'm not even trans, i just have a functioning brain |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| @kawaiiyuris Males being allowed to use female locker rooms is special treatment, no matter how much you act like you can't comprehend this fact |
lady_freyja said: And those studies speak about a "significant association" between some genetic set-up and being a trans'. Hence why I spoke about "genetic predispositions", because I'm prudent and because from what I know, that's how genetic works, with predispositions. Predispositions do not definitively determine anything. In different environmental contexts, they could have completely different outcomes. It just so happens that currently if you are a male with a feminine genetic predisposition, society will encourage you to become trans. This certainly was not always the case, and does not mean you are genetically trans. |
| Im not sure how "laws" should act about it. In an ideal world people would just self-regulate and use locker rooms and bathrooms they feel identified with according to their brain gender. But in the real world, any straight man could put on a skirt and walk into a women's locker room or vice versa, so I don't know the answer really x_x On a personal level tho, if an obviously trans woman uses the girls locker or bathroom I'd be like "oh ok" lol. |
| Transgender/Transsexual (not always the same) feel anxiety about their bodies. They feel as though they are in the wrong body and as a result experience distress. So they long to be the gender that they feel. So they will participate in acts such as chest binding or tucking. Transvestite is someone (more often men) who dress up in the opposite sex's clothing and acts like them. THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THEIR SEXUALITY. A transvestite can be straight but just likes dressing up as a woman. Or a drag queen, gay but dresses up every now and then but does not identify as a woman. The sexual orientation of transgender is a different story Where am I going with this? I do understand that having someone that you perceive as the opposite gender in the same bathroom as you may make you uneasy. But if someone successfully changed their physical gender to what they feel it should be then you wouldn't know, unless you stand and stare and analyse at the people who use the bathrooms {that's creepy}... These people should be able to use the bathroom for the gender that they worked hard for. [You should just get out the bathroom if you're staring and analyzing cause you're the one who is making people feel uneasy] But for people who can't afford the surgery and medication, and still sound and/or look like their birth gender, the there should be a unisex bathroom for them. I'm sure they wouldn't mind that compromise. This way it would also filter out these "guys that dress up as women to rape women in the bathrooms." not the best idea but it may work Personally, I couldn't care less. Use the bathroom you feel comfortable with. PS. All this talk about women being raped by men, we shouldn't forget about women who rape men. I mean I've seen some amazons that sound like men... PSS @Clebardman "Nature is a man-made concept and has been used to oppress minorities since ages." Wise words. What's natural and the law is made by the or the majority "strong guys" |
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Riki_Oh said: @kawaiiyuris Males being allowed to use female locker rooms is special treatment, no matter how much you act like you can't comprehend this fact oh i see. you must just really enjoy being an embarrassing piece of shit o: |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| @kawaiiyuris 3 hours and that was the best you could come up with? |
| you do realize some of us don't spend every waking hour on MAL right? and yep, that's the best i'll give you cause you don't deserve more than a half-assed insult, glad we cleared that up :) |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| @kawaiiyuris Why even bother responding then if you have nothing worth saying |
| none of your word vomit was worth saying either. and it definitely wasn't worth hearing/reading. so i mean idk, if you're already tagging me in some bullshit opinions i might as well share my opinions too. you can cherish getting that little bit of my golden attention cause that's all you're gonna get. nighty night now |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
YatoKirigaya said: Personally, if a man wants to be a woman or vice-versa, id call him/her by the name and gender they choose. The reason that I have the opinion I do about the locker room situation is that allowing former men to enter the girls locker room would mean that any perv could say "I feel like a women today" and go rape some girl in the locker room. What is ever stopping a man from entering the women's locker room and raping a woman though? A guy could literally do this at any time already. Also, what's stopping a lesbian from already doing this? Lesbians like girls just as much as straight men do. |
Immahnoob said: They say Jesus walked on water. People are made out of 79% water. I can walk on people. So I am 79% Jesus. Sourire said: I once fucked an apple pie. |
lady_freyja said: Just a side-note: The hormones don't change the voice for the MtF trans'. We need a "reeducation", which basically consists of changing the place of our "sound box" and learn how to accelerate the flow of our breath, in order to negate the "changing of voice" that we had during our puberty. Plus some more "cosmetic" changes here and there, in the "melody" of the voice, but this is not a physical characteristic, only an acquired characteristic. While yes, for the FtM, the hormones provoke the "changing of voice" and they don't need a reeducation. At worse they have to unlearn the feminine way of speech. And I second @traed The dichotomy between "transsexual" and "transgender" is not that clear. The usage of those words is variable depending of the environment (between the medical and the associative, notably), the country, the person, et cætera. Personally, I prefer to use "trans'", it works in every situation. Oh, I see. I had heard before that those treatments didn't really work with transwomen's voice. Anyhow, I'm a medicine student, so I was pretty much seeing everything from a medical perspective. XD Didn't know that "transexual" and "transgender" could be synonyms as well, my bad I guess. I prefer to consider those two words as slightly different concepts since it makes more sense to me. Thanks to both of you, though. ^^ But seriously, a transwoman isn't less "feminine" or not "a real women" because she didn't go through a surgical process. They are still women, so my opinion towards the topic is absolutely the same. |
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 Ｓｗｅｅｔ♥I guess, as long as I have life, all I can do is fight with all my might. |
| "What do you do if someone pretends to be a woman and sneaks into a locker room and rapes someone" Well, you arrest them. First the whole bathroom thing is stupid, and anyone who thinks we should restrict things to biological birth is fucking stupid. People are going in there to take a shit holy hell. I can understand the locker room argument, if it's in schools. It can be a sensitive topic and that's what we should be discussing here. Public locker rooms should be fully allowed to transgender people, as it is their right of privacy to do so, and restricting that is taking away the rights of other peoples privacies to further your own. meh |
| I wouldn't feel umcomfortable sharing bathrooms with a transwoman because she's still a woman and she should have a right to use the women's locker and restroom if she wishes to. Now, I know other females could make a big deal out of this and this could be unsafe for said transwoman, who already faces safety issues from men, so I'm on the fence. I think that they need safer spaces because they're already attacked and uncomfortable enough and some people can't get over their own entitlement to treat them with the decency they deserve, so in a way I wished they'd get their own bathrooms, but this type of separation can be offensive too because they're not less than a woman... All in all, it's a complicated issue for me. |
密室殺人はなぜ美しいのか。 |
| Just realized, OP did you mean transwoman instead of transexual? Because a transexual woman would be one who has already gone through the gender reassignment surgery (iirc) . . . I would imagine it would be much more awkward for someone who has gone through the surgery to be changing in a male locker room as opposed to a female locker room. |
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| Hmm, that's a difficult question... I think that subconsciously I could feel anxious. Then again, I often feel anxious even among women, so... Well, anyway, it's not like I'd start screaming or something, more about what I'd be thining about it inside my head, so it's not a big deal either way. |
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YatoKirigaya said: cherrystyles805 said: If gun control doesn't prevent terrorists and mass shooters, what makes you think some anti-trans law is going to prevent rape. This is such a stupid non-issue to make a big deal of. As I said before, you can't tell if someone is trans just by looking at them. So you people want to add an unnecessary security guard at bathrooms to check IDs, birth certificates, and genitalia? The latter would be far more awkward. The same people who say a woman wearing a shirt skirt was provoking rape, and that the teenage boy who got raped by the "hot" teacher/milf cheerleader got lucky and he is nothing but a faggot for not enjoying it. These are usually the same people getting offended when a person of the same gender hits on them and currently this stupid non-issue over bathrooms and locker rooms. Im totally against the idea of guards cheking peoples genitals. Also, I think those girls could tell a trans after she stripped btw. Read all of my damn posts before using 1 comment to make an ass of me! My posts weren't specifically aimed at any one single person. If you feel I somehow made an ass out of you even though I didn't, maybe it's because most of your arguments here are full of crap. You sound like a radfem/sjw with the way you're demonizing all trans women and assuming that only men are rapists. |
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| I would rather they use the bathroom of the gender that they were born as. |
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| I think it should be the best it there would be a special locker room for them. We are in the century 21 so this kind of things will be more frequently met. If a transexual go in the same changing room like a woman it's not about that he would have sexual ineterests, but for the women it will be awkward to dress with a man in the room. |
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| sending a MtF who looks like a woman to the mens bathroom sounds like a recipe for disaster. |
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| I think transgender people should be allowed to use the lockers they identify as, but only if they have been on hormones for a few months. That way no one can use the stalker/rapist argument and they will have a body that more resembles what they identify as. |
| disgusting. i'm sorry, it's disgusting. if i cosplay as a dog all day and get groomed at pet shops does that change that i'm a human? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232523/Stalking-Cat-Daniel-Avner-dead-possible-suicide-years-transforming-face-look-like-feline.html what about this dude? he did far more surgeries than any trans so i guess he's a cat? https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sexual-predator-jailed-after-claiming-to-be-transgender-in-order-to-assault and why throw this dude in jail? he's just trying to live his life and be who he is so why? the very fact of you getting a surgery in the first place IS ADMITTING WHO YOU ARE ANYWAY so why do it????? |
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TomDay said: disgusting. i'm sorry, it's disgusting. if i cosplay as a dog all day and get groomed at pet shops does that change that i'm a human? you can't even compare the two, they're not even related. humans are male, female or other but still human. a dog is a completely different species, and therefore irrelevant because people who identify as a dog don't have issues as to where they change or use the washroom |
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LadyRenly said: you can't even compare the two, they're not even related. humans are male, female or other but still human. a dog is a completely different species, and therefore irrelevant because people who identify as a dog don't have issues as to where they change or use the washroom you don't have to tell me that. that reasoning didn't change him from wanting to be a cat. sorry but if you have a pennis and also dike and balls you're a boy, no matter what you do. same for vagins. |
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