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Jan 21, 2016 6:41 AM
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If you're not watching Gintama for the comedy then you should probably watch a different anime to begin with

Even the current Shogun Assassination arc isn't *that* impressive if you ask me. Certainly not bad of course but definitely not what I'm watching Gintama for
Jan 21, 2016 6:51 AM

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Gensan said:
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Why didn't you just say "I didn't like it, so therefore it's shit"

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I liked it after 3-4 episodes, when you'll like it depends quite a bit. Some say 50 episodes, some say 200 (must be the trolls who didn't even watch it or just didn't like it), others say ep 20. It varies from person to person. Try watching until the first major serious arc (starts at ep 55 iirc) and see whether you liked what you got in between that. If you didn't, just drop it.
Ehhh, You mean Benizakura arc? that's not even what good about Gintama, i would say keep watching until Kyuubei arc(~80 iirc). That arc is really funny.

btw, Just note that, If one watches Gintama just for the sake of completing it, he/she will never going to enjoy it.

Yeah but since OP isn't really enjoying 40 ep in, I imagine waiting until Kyuubei's arc might be pain, so just seeing how the first arc is might give OP and idea of how the serious arcs are (granted those are a hit or miss often).
Jan 21, 2016 8:45 PM
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I guess you should try getting up to the Yagyuu arc (eps 76-81) and if you still don't like it, chances are you will never like it. To be honest, I didn't find anything before episode 50 to be as funny as what Gintama is capable of. Only Gintama has arcs based off of real life character polls and making https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UobiSJTfZoI


You should try giving Gintama another shot. The arcs I'll mention are ones you should care about.
Next upcoming serious/action arc: Benizakura arc (58-61)
Next upcoming action/comedy arc: Yagyuu arc (76-81)
Next upcoming serious/feels arc: Mitsuba arc (86-87)
And then from that point on Gintama's level of awesomeness completely changes.
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Jan 21, 2016 10:38 PM

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Gensan said:

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He only brought up Benizakura because that was the first time a narrative was thrown into the series. Which would become the foundation for the overarching plot.

None of the legitimate serious arcs have ever been not-excellent o.o
Seems like we like Gintama for different reason. Serious arcs are excellent? hmmm, No, some are fine some are good but not excellent. It's the comedy that is excellent, serious arcs/moments are freakin lame.
Not really, it's my second favorite franchise for both aspects -- it's goat comedy & it's goat plot.

The only underwhelming serious arcs are Red Spider and the first two Shinsengumi ones. But as for it's better ones, yeah, they aren't just excellent, as evident with how 4 Devas & Courtesan are two of the best arcs the Shonen demographic has ever seen.
Jan 22, 2016 9:59 AM
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Just finished Ep 30, took a bit to like it, but now i find it funny as hell. Some eps are better than others, bests ones so far i can remember were 25 and 28, anything besides ep 1 & 2 were okay to watch. Guess i'll enjoy the ride, slowly though, so many eps, damn.
Jan 22, 2016 10:08 AM

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Gintama serious arcs are mediocre as fuck. Definitely not something to watch the series for. It's a comedy anime and that's what it's offers mostly. So if the comedy is not to your liking, I don't see a point in watching it.

Inconsistent is the best description for Gintama's quality. They are in the top 10 because of how the rating system work here, not because everybody think Gintama is amazing.
Jan 22, 2016 10:12 AM

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tsudecimo said:
Gintama serious arcs are mediocre as fuck. Definitely not something to watch the series for. It's a comedy anime and that's what it's offers mostly. So if the comedy is not to your liking, I don't see a point in watching it.

Inconsistent is the best description for Gintama's quality. They are in the top 10 because of how the rating system work here, not because everybody think Gintama is amazing.
At least it doesn't suffer from PLOT ARMOR
Jan 22, 2016 10:18 AM

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tsudecimo said:
Gintama serious arcs are mediocre as fuck. Definitely not something to watch the series for. It's a comedy anime and that's what it's offers mostly. So if the comedy is not to your liking, I don't see a point in watching it.

Inconsistent is the best description for Gintama's quality. They are in the top 10 because of how the rating system work here, not because everybody think Gintama is amazing.


That's not Gintama you described, it is Naruto.
It's in top 10 because it's that good and you being butthurt won't change it.
Jan 22, 2016 12:24 PM
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Serious arcs are good too,it has the best fight they are amazing and short so you want get bored like in other anime fights
Jan 22, 2016 7:21 PM

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Snappynator said:
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Trust me, it does not get good at any point. I watched all of Gintama, because people kept telling me "dude, it is going to get better, you gonna love it." It is the same shit throughout. Stop listening to your friends.
Why didn't you just say "I didn't like it, so therefore it's shit"
That would be just rude.

Jan 22, 2016 7:29 PM
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Since it is primarily a comedy (though with occasional brilliant drama), if you don't get it by the 5th episode you should drop it because you will never, ever, get the joke.
Jan 22, 2016 8:25 PM

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tsudecimo said:
Gintama serious arcs are mediocre as fuck. Definitely not something to watch the series for. It's a comedy anime and that's what it's offers mostly. So if the comedy is not to your liking, I don't see a point in watching it..
Top kek. I'm sensing delusion for the fact that a series that doesn't pride itself on plot, consistently pumps out top-to-goat tier arcs, while a series that contrives itself with its storytelling, is downright inferior.

Inconsistent is the best description for Gintama's quality.

No, that's your own personal description of it; you can't accept that a Shonen parody series executes its narrative much greater than your favorite Battle Shonen.

They are in the top 10 because of how the rating system work here, not because everybody think Gintama is amazing.

Once again, no. It's ranked so high because the high majority that watch(ed) it understand it's deserving of theirs rating it high. And once again, it would seem you just can't accept that.
Jan 23, 2016 12:58 AM

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Suikomaru said:
tsudecimo said:
Gintama serious arcs are mediocre as fuck. Definitely not something to watch the series for. It's a comedy anime and that's what it's offers mostly. So if the comedy is not to your liking, I don't see a point in watching it.

Inconsistent is the best description for Gintama's quality. They are in the top 10 because of how the rating system work here, not because everybody think Gintama is amazing.
At least it doesn't suffer from PLOT ARMOR

What's the relevance? ''at least it doesn't suffer from x'' doesn't really mean or add anything.

And yes it does. Ironically it makes fun of it in the comedy portion, while having it in the serious arcs. Like how many times a character seemed like they are a goner but survived anyway? how many times did Gintoki lost gallons of blood but spouted some bullshit about souls and defeated the big bad of the arc.

Thing about Gintama is. The author chose to add serious elements and some semblance of an actual story. Probably to change the mood and so readers don't get bored. Problem is, most things that Gintama makes fun of in other Jump manga, it blatantly and hypocritically does the same in the serious arcs with no wink to the readers or a sign of self awareness. Gintoki in particular suffers the most from this (he is quite cringe inducing in those arcs)
Jan 23, 2016 1:10 AM

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tsudecimo said:
Suikomaru said:
At least it doesn't suffer from PLOT ARMOR

What's the relevance? ''at least it doesn't suffer from x'' doesn't really mean or add anything.

And yes it does. Ironically it makes fun of it in the comedy portion, while having it in the serious arcs. Like how many times a character seemed like they are a goner but survived anyway? how many times did Gintoki lost gallons of blood but spouted some bullshit about souls and defeated the big bad of the arc.

Thing about Gintama is. The author chose to add serious elements and some semblance of an actual story. Probably to change the mood and so readers don't get bored. Problem is, most things that Gintama makes fun of in other Jump manga, it blatantly and hypocritically does the same in the serious arcs with no wink to the readers or a sign of self awareness. Gintoki in particular suffers the most from this (he is quite cringe inducing in those arcs)


At least it's not like Naruto where he is supposed to die, SHOULD have died, but some ancient ass old fart appears out of nowhere to give him Jesus powers. Which he uses to save Guy, who also SHOULD have died; given the fact that that the series stated multiple times that using 8 gates leads to death.

Jan 23, 2016 1:12 AM

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Different strokes for different folks.

I'm only like 30 episodes in but I've liked every episode.

Jan 23, 2016 1:17 AM
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Imjustthatdude said:
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Which kind of makes the thread unnecessary, because if you really believe that a fan can confirm you that the show gets good at some point, when you are so obviously past the point of having the chance to find something of value and still haven't, then you are simply denying reality. Just move on. Nobody is going to convince you with a magic trick to enjoy a show you should know very well at this point.
I'm just asking when it gets good so I can skip though episodes not a full paragraph explaining why people can't convince me to watch the show its pretty simple

stop thinking about when it gets good and don't marathon it just watch it from time to time.
Jan 23, 2016 1:21 AM
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it got funny to me from early on just don't think about when it gets good and don't marathon it it can also be serious and full of action
Jan 23, 2016 1:25 AM
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Im not sure, Im on episode 60 and I havent seen anything good...

episode 50 was hilarious
Jan 23, 2016 1:32 AM
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Gensan said:
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Why didn't you just say "I didn't like it, so therefore it's shit"

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I liked it after 3-4 episodes, when you'll like it depends quite a bit. Some say 50 episodes, some say 200 (must be the trolls who didn't even watch it or just didn't like it), others say ep 20. It varies from person to person. Try watching until the first major serious arc (starts at ep 55 iirc) and see whether you liked what you got in between that. If you didn't, just drop it.
Ehhh, You mean Benizakura arc? that's not even what good about Gintama, i would say keep watching until Kyuubei arc(~80 iirc). That arc is really funny.

btw, Just note that, If one watches Gintama just for the sake of completing it, he/she will never going to enjoy it.

now that's a good answer.
Jan 23, 2016 1:48 AM

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Kittens-kun said:
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What's the relevance? ''at least it doesn't suffer from x'' doesn't really mean or add anything.

And yes it does. Ironically it makes fun of it in the comedy portion, while having it in the serious arcs. Like how many times a character seemed like they are a goner but survived anyway? how many times did Gintoki lost gallons of blood but spouted some bullshit about souls and defeated the big bad of the arc.

Thing about Gintama is. The author chose to add serious elements and some semblance of an actual story. Probably to change the mood and so readers don't get bored. Problem is, most things that Gintama makes fun of in other Jump manga, it blatantly and hypocritically does the same in the serious arcs with no wink to the readers or a sign of self awareness. Gintoki in particular suffers the most from this (he is quite cringe inducing in those arcs)


At least it's not like Naruto where he is supposed to die, SHOULD have died, but some ancient ass old fart appears out of nowhere to give him Jesus powers. Which he uses to save Guy, who also SHOULD have died; given the fact that that the series stated multiple times that using 8 gates leads to death.

Again with the ''at least''. These ad homminem don't undermine the point of the post as it's about Gintama, not a comparison between Gintama and Naruto which is only mentioned literally because it's in my favorites.

Naruto Spoilers


It's not plot armor when something is established 100 chapters prior and properly explained. There is no ''should'' there are circumstances that lead to death normally but were stopped by interference i.e Naruto Yang Seal. If it was normal medical jutsu which was established as useless against the 8 gates then you might have had a point.

I don't remember something in Gintama that explains why Gintoki miraculously win against his opponents when more than half of the fight is him getting his ass handed to him. And that's probably because it's just plot armor with the Nakama power stuff.
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So we should just forget the fact that since PART ONE, that means for YEARS, it was stated that going 8 gates is fatal? That means that Guy telling Lee it's fatal, and that he should never go 8 gates meant nothing. It goes against the logic of the series for Guy to still be alive.

Jan 23, 2016 2:14 AM

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He loves to forget that part one is a copy of HxH and the rest is the shitty writing of Kishi we all know very well.

Nakama power, asspuls and plotholes is something Naruto made popular.
Jan 23, 2016 2:14 AM

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So we should just forget the fact that since PART ONE, that means for YEARS, it was stated that going 8 gates is fatal? That means that Guy telling Lee it's fatal, and that he should never go 8 gates meant nothing. It goes against the logic of the series for Guy to still be alive.

That's incorrect.

Jan 23, 2016 2:16 AM

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You're trying way too hard to defend this BS. Can you suck off Naruto any harder? Both animes, the manga, and 5 characters in you favorites. LOL.

Jan 23, 2016 2:35 AM

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tsudecimo said:
Started with an ad hominem, ended with ad hominem. Makes sense, consistency wise.


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ziggy_Z said:
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Started with an ad hominem, ended with ad hominem. Makes sense, consistency wise.


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'Bigotry' is the most apt word to use regarding those bias posts.
Jan 23, 2016 4:05 AM

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Gensan said:
Seems like we like Gintama for different reason. Serious arcs are excellent? hmmm, No, some are fine some are good but not excellent. It's the comedy that is excellent, serious arcs/moments are freakin lame.

I would say the serious arcs are more of a hit or miss than the comedy ones. Some of them are great (4 Devas, Shinsengumi crisis) while others are just bad/boring (Spider arc, Kintama) and some rather average at best (Benizakura, Renho)
Jan 23, 2016 4:40 AM

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It's very subjective but I'd say the comedies where at its peak around 100s. So I think you're still haven't seen the greater parts of it. It needs patience so if you think you can't take it just drop it. Oh and episode 98-99 is also great

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while others are just bad/boring (Spider arc, Kintama)


Kintama is funny and makes any sense though.
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Jan 23, 2016 5:16 AM

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Snappynator said:
Gensan said:
Seems like we like Gintama for different reason. Serious arcs are excellent? hmmm, No, some are fine some are good but not excellent. It's the comedy that is excellent, serious arcs/moments are freakin lame.

I would say the serious arcs are more of a hit or miss than the comedy ones. Some of them are great (4 Devas, Shinsengumi crisis) while others are just bad/boring (Spider arc, Kintama) and some rather average at best (Benizakura, Renho)
Ehhh? This is the first time I've seen someone consider those two as serious arcs.
Jan 23, 2016 8:56 AM

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ziggy_Z said:
Snappynator said:

I would say the serious arcs are more of a hit or miss than the comedy ones. Some of them are great (4 Devas, Shinsengumi crisis) while others are just bad/boring (Spider arc, Kintama) and some rather average at best (Benizakura, Renho)
Ehhh? This is the first time I've seen someone consider those two as serious arcs.

Well I suppose those are more comedic, with some serious elements added on them.
Jan 23, 2016 9:32 AM

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I didn't really like it at first and had it on hold for years, but right now I'm enjoying it and I'm still early in the series. I just watched episode 25 and it was one of the best episodes so far.

One thing to realize is that Gintama isn't like most other anime comedies, it's more like South Park or The Simpsons.
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Probably the most boring one among long running anime series ever.
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Gintama is best watched via clips on YouTube

As mentioned above, like South Park it has some parts that are hilarious surrounded by loads of crap.

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i think it is at episode 234 so you have to keep watching until there

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gintama is good from the start
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