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Oct 24, 2015 8:14 AM
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Bernkastel said:
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I think there are good types of each MBTI and bad types of each MBTI and all types can be great leaders if they please, some types don't even have to be great leaders if they want.

It's like the Enneagram study (which I actually like better than MBTIs and think it's more reliable), how there are 9 Types and 9 different levels of functionality within a type. And the higher end functioning levels are what people should strive to be while the lower end functioning levels are those who have psychological issues guaranteed.

Pls...both are equally shit. At least MBTI isn't confusing though... Enneagram isn't just shit but it requires me to decipher all this random information.


They are good as long as you view them as just fun.
Taking it seriously into career considerations and such is retarded.
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Bernkastel said:
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They are good as long as you view them as just fun.
Taking it seriously into career considerations and such is retarded.

Ideally I would want a fun questionnaire that tells me more about myself than what I told the questionnaire though.


Well,there are always anime girl archetype quizes,you know.

Srsly tho,that would be neat,however it is arguable how reliable it would be.
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Mischievous said:
Bernkastel said:

Pls...both are equally shit. At least MBTI isn't confusing though... Enneagram isn't just shit but it requires me to decipher all this random information.


They are good as long as you view them as just fun.
Taking it seriously into career considerations and such is retarded.


^^^^^

I love how people apply this to dating. This is my biggest gripe with it. No, only they said it was necessary, not the rest of the world. I've actually had an argument about this not long ago about how some dude was whining that he wasn't an ENTJ and couldn't get a single fucking girl because he wasn't that. GG how retarded.

Bernkastel said:
Otoshiro said:
I think there are good types of each MBTI and bad types of each MBTI and all types can be great leaders if they please, some types don't even have to be great leaders if they want.

It's like the Enneagram study (which I actually like better than MBTIs and think it's more reliable), how there are 9 Types and 9 different levels of functionality within a type. And the higher end functioning levels are what people should strive to be while the lower end functioning levels are those who have psychological issues guaranteed.

Pls...both are equally shit. At least MBTI isn't confusing though... Enneagram isn't just shit but it requires me to decipher all this random information.


When I took my Psych class in high school we spent a lot of time studying the constructs of what our personality types were (Me: INFP 9w8) and understanding how we could make a difference with what we thought was needed to be fixed (in my case were we ruler of the world (in my case: leadership and peace not being a reality and how we at our best could make it a reality). I coincidentally was more into my Enneagram side of things because I felt like the descriptions from the book we all got were point on describing the 9 psychological functioning levels and the higher and lower ends.

But that was just a unit within the class, I'm well-aware these tests are pretty much not entirely accurate and probably should all be taken with a grain of salt but I think the MBTIs are the ones that people tend to misuse too much that they don't even get it and think it just applies to how they fucking suck IRL or how much they want to compare themselves to others; that's not what the test was made to be and no one recognizes this. Just my two cents.
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man i got entertainer (ESFP-T)

what the shit

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Otoshiro said:



I love how people apply this to dating. This is my biggest gripe with it. No, only they said it was necessary, not the rest of the world. I've actually had an argument about this not long ago about how some dude was whining that he wasn't an ENTJ and couldn't get a single fucking girl because he wasn't that. GG how retarded.



Well,different types usually aggregate similar people.
For example,people who type as ENTPs have certain preferences,which could make them get along better than with different time. So MBTI is a good thing for creating communities of like-minded people and bit further,it may help them find a potential partner more easily.
Though of course,what matters more is chemistry than just similar types.

But the case you mentioned was obviously ridiculous nor did the guy understand what he was talking about.
Oct 24, 2015 8:32 AM

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FloatingIdiot said:
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Nico Robin (One Piece) - INTJ?
Sakata Gintoki (Gintama) - ISTP?
Kotomine Kirei and/or Emiya Kiritsugu (Fate series) - both are INTJ I think
Shikamaru (Naruto) - agree
CC (Code Geass) - agree
Makise Kurisu (Steins Gate) - token INTJ
Yoh Asakura (Shaman King) - don't know

Maybe? xD

I'll add Shikamaru, CC, and Ulquiorra to my list though :)


Well, possible xD
When I watched Fate Zero, I thought Kirei had some behaviours that an INTP would have, which is why I guessed it, but I'm not a specialist so I could be wrong.

There are also :

Near (Death Note)
Kakyoin (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)

Mischievous said:
Well,there are always anime girl archetype quizes,you know.


Sounds fun. I wanna try xD
Oct 24, 2015 8:32 AM

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I took the test again and got ENFP, as always.

The ENFP personality is a true free spirit. They are often the life of the party, but unlike Explorers, they are less interested in the sheer excitement and pleasure of the moment than they are in enjoying the social and emotional connections they make with others. Charming, independent, energetic and compassionate, the 7% of the population that they comprise can certainly be felt in any crowd.

I enjoy these tests and I find interesting seeing what other people get :P
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I'm assuming you don't object to the I and T.

N vs. S is a bit tricky, but I feel she tries to see more of the big pictures than focus on the direct details. Compare to Batou, who would be ISTP or more likely ESTP. She is also always encouraging the team to look for other possibilities, which she also does herself, and she is always bugged about the possibility of missing something. Chief Aramaki is an INTJ or ENTJ - he tends to be more resolute with his intuitive thought, and willing to commit to plans if he thinks they will work. Kusanagi has a sort of obsession of trying to get to the bottom of everything like an NTP would.

I can understand how she can be confused with an ISTP due to her expert use of physical force, but even so there's always a lot of spontaneous, unconventional planning behind it and refusal to discount additional possibilities. Oddly, outside of the SAC universe, she appears to be an obvious ISTP.


The superior cross-over system to use when MBTI doesn't give a clear answer is Socionics because it matches all 8 functions, temperament groups and quadra.

Temperament: Light Researcher (NTJ) > Pragmatist (ST) > Heavy Researcher (NTP) > Humanitarians (NF) > Social (SF).

Quadra: Gamma (NTJ/SFP) > Beta (STP/NFJ) > Delta (STJ/NFP) > Alpha (NTP/SFJ)

Function:
Te > Ti - The major rarely gives consideration for theoretical endeavors, and is very practical in thinking.

Fi/Fe - Both Fi and Fe are subdued. The only romantic episode in SAC S2 was heavy Fi, with zero Fe displayed.

Ni/Ne - Unknown.

Se > Si - Strong preference for Se over Si in decisionmaking. Forceful and little concern is given to comfort.

Function stack in the 4 used category: Se, Fi, Te, Nx

Top 3 types:
1. INTJ (Ni, Te, Fi, Se)
2. ENTJ (Te, Ni, Se, Fi)
3. ISFP (Fi, Se, Ni, Te) - unlikely

Well I don't know about the Temperaments and Quadra, but in Jung land as far as functions are concerned, I strongly disagree with Te > Ti. Te is focused more on working to external objectives through more structured approaches while Ti is focused more on root understanding. It's not a matter of theoretical vs. practical (that would be more on the S vs N scale). I think Ti is the clearest function of hers. Until she completely understands something, she is hesitant to follow a particular course of action. In the beginning of Laughing Man case for example, she strays from the objective to follow a lead where she can accumulate more information because it could turn up something.

The problem with using a function model which includes the lower subconscious functions is that it discounts the possibility of (in the Major's case) having a preference for two functions that aren't supposed to mix. I would say she prefers Ti and Fi over Te and Fe, and Ne and Se over Ni and Si. The Fi over Fe isn't much of a problem I guess, because you can pass it off as an undeveloped inferior function which is overpowered to the point where she is sort of "feeling" through her dominant Ti.

Why I think Ne is more prominent than Se though? Despite being equipped with impressive physical capabilities and her role in Section 9, she still doesn't use a brute force approach like Batou, instead spending more time in her head thinking of what should be done. And her place in the command structure perfectly coincides with her short-term strategist capabilities. She is mainly reactive rather than proactive which coincides well with her P > J preference, but also manages to be highly strategic, adapting her approach to the situation at hand. I think she can come off as non-theoretical due to the fast-paced environment which allows no chance for chit chat, but even so she is more concerned with solving the case than the little things in front of her. And that is how her extroverted intuition exhibits itself.

ISTP isn't an unreasonable typing but I think INTP makes more sense. I can't see INTJ at all though. The Chief and Gouda would be good examples.
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Nyarlathothep said:

There are also :

Near (Death Note)
Kakyoin (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)

Near is pretty much stereotyped INTJ, and I haven't seen JJBA. It seems others think that Kakyoin is an INTP though, so I will add.
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Mischievous said:
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INTP master race:
Killua, Ging, and Chrollo (Hunter x Hunter)
L (Death Note)
Armin (Attack on Titan)
Major Kusanagi and Laughing Man (Ghost in the Shell SAC universe)
Lain (Serial Experiments Lain)
Homura (Madoka Magica)
Migi (Parasyte)
Ginko (Mushishi)
Inaho (Aldnoah Zero)
Shun (Shinsekai Yori)
CC (Code Geass)
Shikamaru (Naruto)
Ulquiorra (Bleach)


ENTP here.

We are like INTPs,but better.

You're like INTPs only wrong more often, including now.
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Myers-Briggs types are wrong and only used by muricans!


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Maybe by the Socionics definition she is INTp which maps to MBTI INTJ, but I really don't know much about how that works. Based on my understanding of Jung's stuff, she would be INTP. And I can relate to her character by far the most out of all of the ones with significant development, so take that for the little it is worth.
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Guess mayukachan's type

I was talking about making a list of anime characters of a type, but I would probably say INFJ.
oh, could you say some characters who are ENFP then?
I dont really know how to tell what characters are what. I only can occasionally, I'm guessing I have to understand the cognitive functions. I havent really looked into that.
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I almost always get INFP in these tests. The various descriptions given for this type fit me really well.

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Dawn said:
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I was talking about making a list of anime characters of a type, but I would probably say INFJ.
oh, could you say some characters who are ENFP then?
I dont really know how to tell what characters are what. I only can occasionally, I'm guessing I have to understand the cognitive functions. I havent really looked into that.

Lol sorry I looked at our shared anime and I can't think of any ENFP in them (that 85% compatibility though).

Some classic examples would be Misato and Kaji from NGE, Jiraiya from Naruto, and Vash from Trigun. Gon from Hunter x Hunter is either ENFP or ESFP.
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Dawn said:
FloatingIdiot said:

I was talking about making a list of anime characters of a type, but I would probably say INFJ.
oh, could you say some characters who are ENFP then?
I dont really know how to tell what characters are what. I only can occasionally, I'm guessing I have to understand the cognitive functions. I havent really looked into that.


Honoka from Love Live.
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FloatingIdiot said:

Lol sorry I looked at our shared anime and I can't think of any ENFP in them (that 85% compatibility though).

Some classic examples would be Misato and Kaji from NGE, and Vash from Trigun. Gon from Hunter x Hunter is either ENFP or ESFP.


yeah I didnt really recognize many of the characters you mentioned before. I think this is a sign I need to watch more anime :c

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Honoka from Love Live.


oh, cool! that sounds like it fits.
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Huh...ENTJ. well not that I mind

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Bernkastel said:
Dawn said:
oh, could you say some characters who are ENFP then?
I dont really know how to tell what characters are what. I only can occasionally, I'm guessing I have to understand the cognitive functions. I havent really looked into that.

Briefly scanned your list:

Illyasviel von Einzbern
Mami Tomoe
Meiko Honma
Mako Mankanshoku
Jin Mitaka
Eru Chitanda
Rikka Takanashi
Saori Makishima
etc,
thanks!!
that's really interesting.
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Wouldn't Mami be some Fe type like ESFJ? No way she's a P.
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FloatingIdiot said:
Wouldn't Mami be some Fe type like ESFJ? No way she's a P.
my first guess for her would be ENFJ, but I dont know how to do it that well plus it's hard because we didnt get to see her that much.
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Dawn said:
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Wouldn't Mami be some Fe type like ESFJ? No way she's a P.
my first guess for her would be ENFJ, but I dont know how to do it that well plus it's hard because we didnt get to see her that much.

Yeah maybe, I'm just seeing the EFJ in some form. Sayaka's probably the closest to ENFP although I don't think she is one. Probably SFP.

Oh, the teacher. She's probably ENFP but a really crazy kind, lol.
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Just out of curiosity, do you guys think Shinji Ikari is an ISFJ? o_O I found myself relating to him an awful lot.
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Consolation said:
Just out of curiosity, do you guys think Shinji Ikari is an ISFJ? o_O I found myself relating to him an awful lot.

Definitely I and F, probably S. I think Simon from Gurren Lagann is ISFJ.
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I usually get INTP on these.
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Dawn said:
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Lol sorry I looked at our shared anime and I can't think of any ENFP in them (that 85% compatibility though).

Some classic examples would be Misato and Kaji from NGE, and Vash from Trigun. Gon from Hunter x Hunter is either ENFP or ESFP.


yeah I didnt really recognize many of the characters you mentioned before. I think this is a sign I need to watch more anime :c

Watch Hunter x Hunter (2011)! The affinity doesn't lie and that is my favorite. Plus there is Gon's arguable ENFP-ness.
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I did the Myers-Briggs and it's been saying a long that that I'm an ENFP.
I was an INFP earlier, but I guess that I've become more extrovert throughout the years. It would make sense and feels true.
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I did the Myers-Briggs and it's been saying a long that that I'm an ENFP.
I was an INFP earlier, but I guess that I've become more extrovert throughout the years. It would make sense and feels true.


Some people say we can't change our type throughout the years.
But I also observed changes about myself, so idk.
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Even if you go by actual brain processes, researchers have observed different patterns over the years. The idea of types not changing really just comes from a small amount of orthodox theorists who are so far absorbed in their theory that they close themselves off to the contrary evidence.
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Bernkastel said:
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Definitely I and F, probably S. I think Simon from Gurren Lagann is ISFJ.

Don't you think that's why typing with the 4 letters is bad?
How will you discern ISFJ from ISFP?

Simon from GL is clearly a humanitarian in delta quadra.
His irrational function stack contains both Si and Ne, rational function stack Fi, T (unknown).

This actually makes INFP best fit.

He's totally so much more Si than anything N in terms of functions though. I think it makes sense to try to come up with preferred functions that make sense, and Si and Fe is by far the most sensible to me.
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ENTP master race.
>orochimaru
>lelouch (could easily be entj though)
>Edward Elric
>happy (literally the shit by the wat)
>Kuroki Tomoko (People think Intp here but I feel it's more like entp with anxiety disorder or possibly autism spectrum disorder, she desires to be around other people but can't figure out how etc.)
>ryuk
>socrates
>da vinci
>Benjamin Franklin
>Machiavelli
>Hume
>Popper
>Rothbard
>Adam Savage (fucking savage)
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It must be hell for an extrovert when confronted with extended isolation. I can't even fathom that anguish.
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I'm always stuck as INTJ no matter what test I take.

My older brother is an ENTJ. There's a stark contrast between our personalities, but we share the same interests. Maybe if I were more interested in dating I'd be exactly the same.
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
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I don't do the test, since it's inaccurate I look at the cognitive functions Carl Jung put and I got ENTJ. It's pretty accurate, I would say although I have more Se than other ENTJs, the only bit I lack is being able to look after myself. As for Fi, I lack alot of it.


just wanna feel wanted by someone other than the police 😫
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Just did the test, I guess I'm ENFJ-T for some reason.
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EmtShell said:
Just did the test, I guess I'm ENFJ-T for some reason.


The test aren't that accurate but sure whatever.


just wanna feel wanted by someone other than the police 😫
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