Spooks_McBones said: Guyz be fat and proud, its healthy.  Hooray for stereotypes! Boo-fucking-hoo to the skinny girl. It's awful when people say such things about your body, but being skinny means being closer to the beauty standard than away from it. But of course, make it simple. As if counting calories and exercising is the only way to be thin. Even if it is, does that make for a healthy lifestyle? |
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| It's her thoughts and I don't care. I don't feel she deserved the extreme backlash she got but it does get a bit to mean spirited so I can understand why but even then I feel everyone's reactions were over the top. Also on a side not I'm a fat faggot and I have to blame is myself so because of that I am making a change in my life as should anyone who feels bad about their weight. Either that or don't complain about it. On another side note if you are fat do not lie to yourself saying you are just as healthy as someone who is not overweight, you are not and unless you make a change you never will be. Remember at the end of the day you are the only one to blame. |
TheBrainintheJar said: Spooks_McBones said: Guyz be fat and proud, its healthy. Hooray for stereotypes! Boo-fucking-hoo to the skinny girl. It's awful when people say such things about your body, but being skinny means being closer to the beauty standard than away from it. But of course, make it simple. As if counting calories and exercising is the only way to be thin. Even if it is, does that make for a healthy lifestyle? Yes watching what you eat and exercising are ways to make your body healthy and can make a positive impact on your life. |
AnnoKano said: Wow, not only will I get to bully strangers, but I will get to feel self righteous about it too? Where do I sign up? Become a mod. |
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j0x said: Spooks_McBones said:  thin shaming is just as bad if not worse today. what? that girl is not that skin and bones, i say that body is sexy as hell The fun part is that thin shaming is not even considered insulting by most people. |
| I'm not sure a comedian making videos "shaming" a group of people is a good idea... The internet is full of "obese" people, so her (ex-)fanbase must've had a lot of overweight people as well. Anyways, shaming fat people won't solve anything. Some overweight people are actually fine with how they are (chubby people). Also, being a bit overweight doesn't neccessarily mean health problems. Seriously fat people do have health problems, but chubby people do not. So why should they change if they like how they look? Just because others say they should? By that logic homosexuals should be forced to become heterosexuals because "their lives would be so much easier", even though they are completely fine with their sexual preferences and they don't want to change. Going around booing fat people doesn't have any positive effect. Making fun of them will only destroy their self-confidence and they will be less likely to change. If someone says you are ugly your first reaction is not to say "well I just gained so much confidence and I'll go have a plastic surgery". They'll only become more depressed. Do you think fat people who watched her video will suddenly want to change? They'll be like "hey this nice girl just called us nasty scums of society so I want to change just to appeal to her" or what? Wearing makeup 24/7 is also not the healthiest thing yet I don't see "fat shamers" shaming those people too. Why? Because in society, makeup is how you hide your unattractiveness and that's a good thing because it makes you look nicer (in fact, fake). Being fat is not attractive so they should be erased from society. There are several illnesses that can make you gain weight easier (diabetes) or not gain much weight no matter how much you eat (coeliac disease). My father has coeliac disease and no matter how much he eats, he still looks skinny. I don't really like trashfood like McDonalds of Burger King, I eat them twice a year at best, yet I still gain more weight than optimal. My father eats 5 times as more as me, yet he is skinny and I am not. Obviously only a small percentage of fat people have some kind of illness, but you can never know just by looking at them. That's why I think going around making fun of overweight people is bad. You might say someone is just a fatass who eats trash food, but you can never know if he has diabetes. You might think that skinny lady over there is really pretty, but what if she actually has some kind of mental problem? Vegetables and fruits are actually quite expensive in my country compared to unhealthy foods from supermarkets. The "healthy materials are cheaper" argument is bad. Even shit like cheese and cold cuts cost more than a chocolate. The "you can change, you are just a wimp" argument is also really bad. Just because you had the chance of growing up in a healthy environment, with healthy stuff being cheap doesn't mean everyone has the same life as you. You work for 10 hours, you arrive home late, you have to look after your kids, your salary is not enough to buy healthy materials, and you don't have time to cook a healthy meal, so you buy cheap crap from Tesco instead. That's pretty much the life of many people here. Foreign companies (American and Western European) are pretty much built on selling low quality crap to people living in poorer regions. It's funny how nobody has a problem with "perfect" people making fun of others, but other people you don't even know have to be made fun of because of their body type. Having a cancerous personality is not a problem after all, but some people just have to make fun of fat people even though they can worth more as a person than the beauty queens. Thanks to this cancerous look on society, even schoolkids nowadays have nothing better to do than talk about fitness, clothes, perfect bodies and of course, shittalking fat people. These people say studying "useless crap" like history is unimportant, but somehow bullying fat people is really important. People with mental problems also compensate loneliness, depression and worrying with eating food. How about helping them overcome their real problems nicely instead of ordering them to lose weight? People who scream "fatness is not healthy" don't even realize how many things associated with being pretty are unhealthy. Wearing makeup, wearing miniskirts in winter because trousers are not pretty, eating a shit ton of food and then puking it out are all absolutely unhealthy. It's also very common for uni students to starve themselves for 2 days so they won't gain weight after drinking alcohol at a party. Yet people don't bully them because on the outside, they look normal. Fat people don't look "normal" on the outside according to know-it-alls, even though they might be totally healthy in every other aspect. "Just not eat" is possibly the worst advice ever and shows how unknowledgeable people are. If you are used to eating a lot of food every day (fat people), and start starving yourself for days, in the end you can easily snap and eat way too more. It's called bulimia. But good job guys, force them to become healthy by giving them a very dangerous eating disorder. Media portrayals of an 'ideal' body shape are widely considered to be a contributing factor to bulimia. In a 1991 study by Weltzin, Hsu, Pollicle, and Kaye, it was stated that 19% of bulimics undereat, 37% of bulimics eat an amount of food that is normal for an average human being, and 44% of bulimics overeat. A survey of 15- to 18-year-old high school girls in Nadroga, Fiji, found the self-reported incidence of purging rose from 0% in 1995 (a few weeks after the introduction of television in the province) to 11.3% in 1998. In addition, the suicide rate among people with bulimia nervosa is 7.5 times higher than in the general population. Also anorexia does have a lot to do with genetics, so why shouldn't the opposite, fatness have something to do with it? Is it because that way all the miss perfects couldn't make fun of them anymore? From what've seen, most people don't even try to "help" fat people with real problems. Most people only bully chubby people (especially kids in school) and their intention is not to help them at all. It's easy to emotionally bully someone and then say you were just trying to help. And finally, tell me how telling someone to exercise and stop eating so much will help. Do you think just simply telling them to do it without helping them in any meaningful way is effective? Normally even fat people value the opinions of helpful people more than the opinions of randoms. Why should they bother with the opinions of rude people? Sure, starting to exercise is not that hard but ordering them to stop being fat will not encourage them to even begin exercising. |
TheBrainintheJar said: But of course, make it simple. As if counting calories and exercising is the only way to be thin. Even if it is, does that make for a healthy lifestyle? Is this a joke question? Szefi said: Also anorexia does have a lot to do with genetics "New research suggest a person's genes may point to a propensity for developing an eating disorder." Please lets not morph the truth here "has a lot to do" lol Szefi said: Wearing makeup 24/7 is also not the healthiest thing yet I don't see "fat shamers" shaming those people too. Wearing makeup doesn't kill you or put strain on the healthcare/wealthfare system. Is this how you argue all your points, if you're going to use the word healthy make sure you understand it. Never mind I read the rest of your post where you start comparing fat shaming to cutting history lessons. thats a lot of straw for one post my friend. |
SpooksSep 12, 2015 1:09 PM
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Spooks_McBones said: thin shaming is just as bad if not worse today. Wow she is not even that Skinny I've seen way worse, it's only bad if it's unhealthy. |
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Spooks_McBones said: Being fat also doesn't kill you. Wearing makeup 24/7 is unhealthy. I never claimed makeup is deadly. If kids find making everyone look perfectly skinny="healthy" to be more important than taking their lessons, that is a problem. That's because the media sends the message of "appearance" being more important than being educated. People don't bully dumb, uneducated kids, but they do bully fat people.TheBrainintheJar said: But of course, make it simple. As if counting calories and exercising is the only way to be thin. Even if it is, does that make for a healthy lifestyle? Is this a joke question? Szefi said: Also anorexia does have a lot to do with genetics "New research suggest a person's genes may point to a propensity for developing an eating disorder." Please lets not morph the truth here "has a lot to do" lol Szefi said: Wearing makeup 24/7 is also not the healthiest thing yet I don't see "fat shamers" shaming those people too. Wearing makeup doesn't kill you or put strain on the healthcare/wealthfare system. Is this how you argue all your points, if you're going to use the word healthy make sure you understand it. Never mind I read the rest of your post where you start comparing fat shaming to cutting history lessons. thats a lot of straw for one post my friend. Also, good job googling "anorexia and genetics" and literally copy-pasting the very first sentence without even reading an article. Seems legit. You know, I actually read the article, which said Today, a growing body of research indicates that you can indeed get anorexia from your parents, but not in the way previously thought. Eating disorders appear to be as strongly genetically linked as many other major psychiatric disorders, like schizophrenia, depression, bipolar disorder, or obsessive-compulsive disorder. If you can get anorexia from your parents, that indeed has a lot to do with genetics. |
Szefi said: Being fat also doesn't kill you.  "According to the National Institutes of Health, obesity and overweight together are the second leading cause of preventable death in the United States, close behind tobacco use. An estimated 300,000 deaths per year." |
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Spooks_McBones said: There are different types of being fat. Simply weighing more than optimal is not unhealthy, at best you will be less good at physical exercises. According to BMI, even people with muscles (who weigh more than optimal on the scale) are also overweight. But I am sure they are not unhealthy. Some obese people actually do exercise so they can hardly be called unhealthy. If you are severely overweight, you can indeed face serious health problems, and as a result, even die. But most fat people don't belong to the "so fat they will surely die one day" group.Szefi said: Being fat also doesn't kill you. The other real disadvantage fat people have is potentially dying earlier. But there are several other groups dying earlier than the others (Africans die earlier than Westerners, left handed people are speculated to die earlier than right handed people, etc) Spooks said: The US is the home for the highest number of fat people so that is no surprise. But the US has ~300 million citizens, and 300,000 is only 1%. That is not a lot if you consider more than 20% of the US population are overweight."According to the National Institutes of Health, obesity and overweight together are the second leading cause of preventable death in the United States, close behind tobacco use. An estimated 300,000 deaths per year." |
Szefi said: even people with muscles (who weigh more than optimal on the scale) are also overweight. But they're not fat, their body weight is not due to a large collection of fat. Are you really going to keep arguing all your points like this. You keep making ill connecting points, how is Africans dying before Westerners having any impact that been overweight because of been fat kills lots of people. Stop making these random wide connections which make it seem like you're explaining your point when really connecting things that have nothing to do with the topic. You're making a Chewbacca defense. |
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Spooks_McBones said: They are not fat according to you, but the topic is about "fat shaming" or "fat bullying" or whatever you want to call it. And a lot of "not fat, just muscled" people get called fat because random people think they are.Szefi said: even people with muscles (who weigh more than optimal on the scale) are also overweight. But they're not fat, their body weight is not due to a large collection of fat. Are you really going to keep arguing all your points like this. Stop making these random wide connections which make it seem like you're explaining your point when really connecting things that have nothing to do with the topic. That's because you keep saying fat people can die, you are generalizing. I used those connections to point out that several other groups are supposed to die earlier on paper, but in real life these "scientific assumptions" amount to nothing. |
Szefi said: They are not fat according to you No they're literally by definition and by medical reasoning not fat. They can make accurate reviews of an individuals body fat compared to muscle density and weight. Even visually you can make a guess. Szefi stahp. |
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Spooks_McBones said: Stop thinking everyone thinks like you. Even a guy who was not fat, just muscled said that people thought he was fat, in this topic. That's evidence the problem exists. I know very well they are not fat people.Szefi said: They are not fat according to you No they're literally by definition and by medical reasoning not fat. They can make accurate reviews of an individuals body fat compared to muscle density and weight. Even visually you can make a guess. Szefi stahp. |
| You're attempting to dilute the point which was not that the video targeted weightlifters and body builders whose body mass is large because of muscle gain but the overweight, the overweight due to body fat intake. Who don't exercise or attempt to change their body weight even at the cost of their own health. As for your arguments sake you have in your own words attempted to disperse fat shaming by shaming those who wear makeup as been unhealthy by your own personal standards not by any medical reasoning. Nobody goes to the doctors and says my hips are practically shattered, my heart is under strain and I probably won't live to see age 30 and the doctor looks at them and goes "yeah its because you're wearing makeup" your definition of unhealthy seems based entirely on outlook when my definition of unhealthy includes medically unhealthy. As for the rest of your argument involving school education, history lessons, people who are left handed and African people that has no bearing or any relevance to this topic at all and serves only as clutter to seem to help your point to those who might skim read when it actuality it serves no purpose but to make it seem that you're making big points in your arguments favor. Now for your own sake I looked up the medical issues caused directly by been overweight from the WHO institute. World said: Q: What are the health consequences of being overweight? A: The latest WHO projections indicate that at least one in three of the world's adult population is overweight and almost one in 10 is obese. Additionally there are over 40 million children under age five who are overweight. Being overweight or obese can have a serious impact on health. Carrying extra fat leads to serious health consequences such as cardiovascular disease (mainly heart disease and stroke), type 2 diabetes, musculoskeletal disorders like osteoarthritis, and some cancers (endometrial, breast and colon). These conditions cause premature death and substantial disability. What is not widely known is that the risk of health problems starts when someone is only very slightly overweight, and that the likelihood of problems increases as someone becomes more and more overweight. Many of these conditions cause long-term suffering for individuals and families. In addition, the costs for the health care system can be extremely high. The good news is that overweight and obesity are largely preventable. The key to success is to achieve an energy balance between calories consumed on one hand, and calories used on the other hand. To reach this goal, people can limit energy intake from total fats and shift fat consumption away from saturated fats to unsaturated fats; increase consumption of fruit and vegetables, as well as legumes, whole grains and nuts; and limit their intake of sugars. And to increase calories used, people can boost their levels of physical activity - to at least 30 minutes of regular, moderate-intensity activity on most days. Those damned Nazi's telling people that been overweight is a problem right? and that with actual effort it can be changed and prevented. To be fair I also decided to include all the unhealthiness of makeup: Possible allergic reaction to chemicals within the makeup. |
SpooksSep 12, 2015 2:32 PM
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Spooks_McBones said: 1. No, the video was nothing but telling fat people to become healthy in a rude, ineffective way. The Youtuber never once mentioned how she judges fat people; she only said people with real illnesses doesn't count. She said it was okay to make fun of fat people because that will force them to change one day. She is encouraging people to make fun of fat people because that will help. A lot of people make fun of people who only appear fat but are actually muscled. It doesn't matter if the person made fun of is actually fat or just muscled, because these people only shame them and call them fat based on appearance. The Youtuber called fat people disgusting looking. She doesn't care about the person itself, just the appearance; all that matters to her is changing their looks. I bet even this woman would call a muscled person fat just because his looks doesn't appeal to her. I know both muscled people who look "fat" and also fat people who are actually doing exercises daily. Some fat people do more exercises than healthy people yet they are still fatter. Some "skinny" people don't even do any sports and yet they are really skinny, while fat people do exercises and are still fat. By definition, in this case the fat person is supposed to be more healthy.You're attempting to dilute the point which was not that the video targeted weightlifters and body builders whose body mass is large because of muscle gain but the overweight, the overweight due to body fat intake. Who don't exercise or attempt to change their body weight even at the cost of their own health. As for your arguments sake you have in your own words attempted to disperse fat shaming by shaming those who wear makeup as been unhealthy by your own personal standards not by any medical reasoning. Nobody goes to the doctors and says my hips are practically shattered, my heart is under strain and I probably won't live to see age 30 and the doctor looks at them and goes "yeah its because you're wearing makeup" your definition of unhealthy seems based entirely on outlook when my definition of unhealthy includes medically unhealthy. As for the rest of your argument involving school education, history lessons, people who are left handed and African people that has no bearing or any relevance to this topic at all and serves only as clutter to seem to help your point to those who might skim read when it actuality it serves no purpose but to make it seem that you're making big points in your arguments favor. I never attempted to shame people who wear makeup. All I said is these cancerous people who judge fat people based on appearance don't bully girls who wear makeup all day simply because society thinks that's attractive. I also never compared the negative effects of being fat or wearing makeup; only you did. And you are generalizing again, not all fat people go to doctors with "my hips are practically shattered, my heart is under strain and I probably won't live to see age 30". On the other hand, people who try to appear pretty too hard also end up at th e doctor with eating disorders or health problems. Both sides can suffer from negative effects. People associate being fat with being dangerously overweight and say they are "seriously unhealthy" or "they can die". In case you didn't know, wearing makeup nonstop can have negative effects on your skin. Obviously that is not as bad as having heart problems because you are seriously fat. I never tried to make big points in my "arguments" favor, I was only using comparisons. I didn't try proving my points with them, I only included them in case someone didn't get what I meant. Spooks said: I know very well fatness is not healthy. But there is a difference between being slower or not having a pretty body (slightly overweight), having health problems (obese people) and possibly risking death because of your obesity (severely obese people). My problem is with people generalizing all fat people and as a result, others can easily bully them because that's supposed to help. People should only care about fat people who are actually having health problems. Nobody has to like fat people if they don't want to, but don't force your ideals on them based on a misconception ("all fat people have health problems"). To support my own point, the source you quoted even said that only the risk of health problems start with being fat, and you are more likely to have health problems as you gain more weight. Which means you don't neccessarily have health problems if you are just a bit over BMI.Those damned Nazi's telling people that been overweight is a problem right? and that with actual effort it can be changed and prevented. |
ZeesSep 12, 2015 2:53 PM
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j0x said: Spooks_McBones said: thin shaming is just as bad if not worse today. what? that girl is not that skin and bones, i say that body is sexy as hell If you're not joking, then you have strange taste. |
| Of course binge eating is unhealthy. But I feel like she was too rude about a habit that is difficult to change. It's like making a "dear bulimic people" video. People can't help themselves, it's a psychological thing. Can't we care about each other's health and still be kind? |
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Spooks_McBones said: TheBrainintheJar said: But of course, make it simple. As if counting calories and exercising is the only way to be thin. Even if it is, does that make for a healthy lifestyle? Is this a joke question? Szefi said: Also anorexia does have a lot to do with genetics "New research suggest a person's genes may point to a propensity for developing an eating disorder." Please lets not morph the truth here "has a lot to do" lol Szefi said: Wearing makeup 24/7 is also not the healthiest thing yet I don't see "fat shamers" shaming those people too. Wearing makeup doesn't kill you or put strain on the healthcare/wealthfare system. Is this how you argue all your points, if you're going to use the word healthy make sure you understand it. Never mind I read the rest of your post where you start comparing fat shaming to cutting history lessons. thats a lot of straw for one post my friend. No, it's not a joke. I ask if a life that consists of counting calories and exercising is healthy. We should watch our health, but also our mental health. Get obsessed with losing weight, and it's a downward spiral that will only bring you depression. I still want to know why fat people bother so much. Aren't there immoral behavior(s) we should shame instead? |
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Dimethylanime said: Of course binge eating is unhealthy. But I feel like she was too rude about a habit that is difficult to change. It's like making a "dear bulimic people" video. People can't help themselves, it's a psychological thing. Can't we care about each other's health and still be kind? Nope because she thinks obese people are offending her by existing |
| Frankenstein is the scientist not the 'monster.' I do have to sort of agree with her though and have actually really sort of been wanting to somebody to say that... It was nice to watch even if I did cringe at her bluntness quite a bit. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: No, it's not a joke. I ask if a life that consists of counting calories and exercising is healthy. We should watch our health, but also our mental health. Get obsessed with losing weight, and it's a downward spiral that will only bring you depression. I still want to know why fat people bother so much. Aren't there immoral behavior(s) we should shame instead? Listen, you're distorting. People who are obsessed with been so skinny they kill themselves are a problem and so are people who eat themselves into the grave. Bringing up people who have an unhealthy obsession with been thin doesn't suddenly dissipate that been unhealthily fat is bad. That would be along the lines of bringing up the Nazi's to deny the existence of ISIS well obsessed skinny are just as bad and that somehow debunks whats been said how? As a previously largely overweight person who has made all those excuses in the book for themselves at one point and who now stands right at the healthy bottom range of weight + height for my age group now and can wear skinny jeans if I wanted I can tell everyone as a person with experience. Not just some naturally genetically skinny individual who doesn't have a fuck clue what they're talking about as some would probably try to accuse others. Was losing weight oh so easy for me? no was I ashamed of my weight yes? did positive re-enforcement help me lose that weight? no. It was shame nobody on the outside could say anything about my body that was worse than what I told myself, it wasn't healthy I had asthma could hardly breath running as a child was fat for as long as I could remember. So I could have easily had blamed genetics or been born that way and couldn't change both of these would have been lies. I lost all my weight and remain to this day thin because of my actions because of my diet and because I told myself I was a lazy fat ass I pushed myself into healthy weight not by cuddling up to a pie and saying im beautiful how I am. I went full drill instructor and lost it. Now I don't touch fast food, drink plenty of water cut out the pop and sweets, walk a lot and never blame others for how I take care of my own body. I can say all these things because I was a fat person who made all those excuses and I can tell from experience that all those fat people who have nothing medically holding them back are their only fault and the only thing keeping them fat. you talk like watching your weight is some big ass impossible task or something you have to obsess over every moment of everyday and ruin your life and have no fun, fuck that. You know what you have to do, watch what you eat, eat less then recommended daily intake, get off your ass and walk places, cut out all the fast food and sweets, pop and thats it. you don't have to fucking whip yourself everyday to do it but I understand why you would think that. I was where your line of thought is once too. Only when I stopped playing the victim did I change and realized how silly I was. |
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Spooks_McBones said: TheBrainintheJar said: No, it's not a joke. I ask if a life that consists of counting calories and exercising is healthy. We should watch our health, but also our mental health. Get obsessed with losing weight, and it's a downward spiral that will only bring you depression. I still want to know why fat people bother so much. Aren't there immoral behavior(s) we should shame instead? Listen, you're distorting. People who are obsessed with been so skinny they kill themselves are a problem and so are people who eat themselves into the grave. Bringing up people who have an unhealthy obsession with been thin doesn't suddenly dissipate that been unhealthily fat is bad. That would be along the lines of bringing up the Nazi's to deny the existence of ISIS well obsessed skinny are just as bad and that somehow debunks whats been said how? As a previously largely overweight person who has made all those excuses in the book for themselves at one point and who now stands right at the healthy bottom range of weight + height for my age group now and can wear skinny jeans if I wanted I can tell everyone as a person with experience. Not just some naturally genetically skinny individual who doesn't have a fuck clue what they're talking about as some would probably try to accuse others. Was losing weight oh so easy for me? no was I ashamed of my weight yes? did positive re-enforcement help me lose that weight? no. It was shame nobody on the outside could say anything about my body that was worse than what I told myself, it wasn't healthy I had asthma could hardly breath running as a child was fat for as long as I could remember. So I could have easily had blamed genetics or been born that way and couldn't change both of these would have been lies. I lost all my weight and remain to this day thin because of my actions because of my diet and because I told myself I was a lazy fat ass I pushed myself into healthy weight not by cuddling up to a pie and saying im beautiful how I am. I went full drill instructor and lost it. Now I don't touch fast food, drink plenty of water cut out the pop and sweets, walk a lot and never blame others for how I take care of my own body. I can say all these things because I was a fat person who made all those excuses and I can tell from experience that all those fat people who have nothing medically holding them back are their only fault and the only thing keeping them fat. you talk like watching your weight is some big ass impossible task or something you have to obsess over every moment of everyday and ruin your life and have no fun, fuck that. You know what you have to do, watch what you eat, eat less then recommended daily intake, get off your ass and walk places, cut out all the fast food and sweets, pop and thats it. you don't have to fucking whip yourself everyday to do it but I understand why you would think that. I was where your line of thought is once too. Only when I stopped playing the victim did I change and realized how silly I was. Let me reroute. I'm not arguing against eating well and working out. Working out is pretty great and anyone who doesn't do a little of it is missing a lot. My problem is with our obsession with obesity. We take it really seriously. We view it as a serious problem, some sort of epidemic. Suicide and self-harm are becoming more common. Suicide is often among the top 10 causes of death (and there are suicides that are just reported as accidents). I think we have a much bigger issue of mental health. People like her are what causes this. Put a person on a very narrow road, tell him that only if he's thin he's worth it (because we forget to mention other qualities that make for worthwhile human beings) and he'll go crazy. This is what I mean. I ask whether weight-watching will cure the mental health epidemic which is much bigger. I find the high rate of suicides much more alarming, and so long as society will have a narrow view of what worthwhile humans are it won't change. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: My problem is with our obsession with obesity. We take it really seriously. We view it as a serious problem.  |
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ScavrefamnSep 13, 2015 12:23 AM
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| Her personality is a mess. I can't deal with people like her. |
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HiNT74 said: the message society gives nowadays is it's ok or even it's good to be fat  I like these:   |
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| I'm not fat, but I find this video pretty stupid and insensitive too |
| I know i'm horrible person, but i actually found the video pretty funny and hilarious. Her rants sound like some local radio hosts at my country (where political correctness isn't a thing) trying to be funny by spewing bad jokes full of insults and chinese stereotypes, and yet the audiences just roll with it and instead laugh at how pathetic their attempts are. Nobody feels offended. So it's kinda weirded me out to see the harsh reactions on the internet regarding the pretty similar kind of joke. As a naturally weak and skinny guy though, perhaps there's something i'm missing here. I dunno. |
| It's a fat shaming video so of courses I agree. |
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