| There's rarely any contributional threads. Out of the two entire pages of threads, you'll find max 3-5 threads that promote discussion and not just random chat. The topics are stupid as fuck, I'm not even kidding. You could see for yourself as well.. Shit like 'what woul you do if you were the only hot person in the world', 'how do I confess to a girl', '[serious help thread] my gf just dumped me, 'ever rejected someone', 'ever broke up with someone' , 'my pet fish just died', 'why am I the smartest person from all my friends', '[serious help thread]my parents are doichebags .. Help ', 'any Israeli people out there?' 'How cool are you' .... Etc, etc. I report these threads each time and the next day the same damn user will make a new thread that basically has the same shit as before. This board is completely unmodderated as chat threads last more than 2 weeks if no one report them. Sometimes even if someone report them because I'm pretty sure tons of reports are ignored. Oh, and these are just the threads. The replies are just as worse.. 'Im the coolest guy', 'I reject so many girls', 'All women want me', 'I love 2D', 'I want to fuck hatsune miku', 'you don't need a gf when you have (insert anime girl name)., and most of all huge arguments that do nothing but insult users. 'MAL is shit, every user is retarded haha', 'Oh you are so arrogant you don't know shit, 'Oh please you troll.. Go back to your basement' teruu said: The problem is not a few posts.. More than 90% of the threads and posts break the rules. Not even half of them get reported because it's got to the point that it's deemed completely normal. The ones that do don't really change anything.. At best the post will get deleted .. And the user will just continue breaking the rules. You say this is a problem in moderation efficiency and indeed it is.. While that is the case, this is not the first time the issue is addressed and I really can't see any plans from the mods to start modderating CD more. It's almost as if the shit is too much to deal with and they can't be bothered. So really...it's much better to have the shit removed than let the rule breakers continue on with the shit. . Removing this whole board will do plenty of good things as then mods will have to deal with less reports, no more bullshit topics can be created that clearly break the rules. Ive heard a lot that mods have too much stuff to deal with here so this will clearly help as this board is probably one of the most popular ones. Rules will be broken much more lesser, and yeah.. I'm pretty sure there's other good shit about removing this board as well but I can't think of anything else. WEll anyway.. Yeah. Edit: apparently it turns out some people are completely unaware that Casual Discussion even had any rules to start with or just can't process what they read.. I'm going to put the link here for whoever would like to see the rules. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=516113 |
teruuAug 31, 2015 5:49 PM
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| if you don't like it, don't use it. All of those threads fit the title of casual discussion, so I don't see an issue. |
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JD2411 said: if you don't like it, don't use it. All of those threads fit the title of casual discussion, so I don't see an issue. The title of casual discussion and the rules of casual discussion are two different things. I suggest you go read the rules. Chrisereum said: there is an ignore button Use it if you can't read. |
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| But what if the CD only users branched to other boards? they will ruin them. I say keep the the worst of the toxicity on this site in one place. But yeah I don't see why Casual Discussion and Current events exist in these forums. |
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EverydayIfight said: But what if the CD only users branched to other boards? they will ruin them. I say keep the the worst of the toxicity on this site in one place. But yeah I don't see why Casual Discussion and Current events exist in these forums. Current events does have good threads. And yes while the rule breakers will spread to other boards, the other boards are much more moderated than casual discussion. Rule breakers will most likely get banned at a point. |
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| CD brings activity to the MAL forums that it brings. Bringing higher quality standards to the community without shaking up the activity would be better approached differently than removing CD. I'll try to dig out an essay I've written on this matter once or twice... or twenty times... |
| Support. Casual discussion is just an excuse for shitposting |
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| They just need a rule against attention whoring. A lot of threads in CD are obvious troll/bait threads. |
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Narmy said: They just need a rule against attention whoring. A lot of threads in CD are obvious troll/bait threads. Can't happen as people assume the attention whoring to be in many different ways. For example, tons of users accuse others of being attention whores if they type something that they don't like/ want to see. Another context could be when some person creates the 'my gf just dumped me. help' thread and you would assume this person to be attention whoring however tons of other people would say that you are being insensitive towards him and that he just needs advice. And as for the troll/bait threads, the replies aren't really any better with posts such as ''Get a life. I bet you live in your parent's basement , 40 year old loser'. |
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| Well they could at least get rid of the really obvious attention whoring threads like these: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1423322 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1420466 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1423310 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1423219 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1422937 And that's just the first page of CD. |
NarmyAug 31, 2015 3:24 PM
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| you know you can just make it so casual discussion section just doesn't show up for you if it really bothers you that much |
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| Maybe we need a random thread like in 4 chan, would that make you feel better? |
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dfsafsaf said: you know you can just make it so casual discussion section just doesn't show up for you if it really bothers you that much You should read the casual discussion rules and this post before posting. |
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| Shoulda have never changed General Discussion to Casual and left it as Chat. Regardless, it's been requested before and had a pretty long discussion IIRC, seeing as how it's still as it is, guess it didn't do much. |
Anna_Cats said: CD is fun, and it's a good way to get to know the community. If you don't like it, don't take part. It's as simple as that. That's what I think too and as dfsafsaf said you can just make it so it doesnt show up. |
| This backlash will exist as long as spam board is gone. I have been saying this for a long time now.. either bring it back or moderate the shit out of CD. But when it does get moderated they make mistakes or users think it was unjustified to lock certain threads.. Anyways Removing CD doesn't seem that realistic :v |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| Use the report button for specific threads and replies you feel don't fit there, don't ask for a forum to close its essential Off Topic section just because you don't like certain samples of its content. |
| l got a genius idea, don't go into CD |
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Anna_Cats said: CD is fun, and it's a good way to get to know the community. If you don't like it, don't take part. It's as simple as that. I really don't give a fuck about what you find fun. Majority of the threads, especially the ones you find fun are breaking the casual discussion rules which btw are on sticky. I suggest you go read those.. jal90 said: Use the report button for specific threads and replies you feel don't fit there, don't ask for a forum to close its essential Off Topic section just because you don't like certain samples of its content. I have very clearly stated on the main thread post of this topic that I report the shit each time but nothing much is done. Sometimes it is reported back that the situation is taken care of but the next day the same user starts the same shit again. And again. I do not know if you can't comprehend what I type or just plainly can't read, but please try to do so before you try to modderate this thread. gummyghost said: l got a genius idea, don't go into CD Your idea is stupid as fuck. Nothing more to be said about it or you apart from your inability to read the thread post. |
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| lmao chill, CD won't be going anywhere. and of course l didn't waste my time reading you whining |
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teruu said: jal90 said: Use the report button for specific threads and replies you feel don't fit there, don't ask for a forum to close its essential Off Topic section just because you don't like certain samples of its content. I have very clearly stated on the main thread post of this topic that I report the shit each time but nothing much is done. Sometimes it is reported back that the situation is taken care of but the next day the same user starts the same shit again. And again. I do not know if you can't comprehend what I type or just plainly can't read, but please try to do so before you try to modderate this thread. I comprehend rather perfectly what you wrote, the issue here being that you are completely wrong and expect a forum to make an essential part for its functioning disappear just because of a number of threads and users. This is if anything an issue of lack of resources/efficiency in moderation, not a matter of removing actually useful subforums because "too much troll" that most of the part is not even allowed by the rules and can actually be reported and taken care of. Casual Discussion is the Off Topic subforum of MAL. Make a quick search and tell me how many forums don't have an Off Topic section. And keep your condescending tones for yourself. |
| You're a funny guy. Use the ignore button. |
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| You want an entire board removed due to a lack of proper moderation? Are you a mod in disguise?. If anything, I find the rules in CD to be bloody stupid. Not supporting, CD is a nice place to post because of the laid-back topics. Cherry picking a few stupid recycled threads that you reported doesn't make the entire board shit. It's the most active board in the forum, what's gonna happen if it's removed? Indeed, removing the entire board makes the workload decrease, why not remove AD too? It's meant to contain the trolls, or so I've heard. That's why CD is a great refuge. Is this Suggestion even serious? I can't tell. |
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gummyghost said: lmao chill, CD won't be going anywhere. and of course l didn't waste my time reading you whining I am 'chill'. jal90 said: teruu said: I have very clearly stated on the main thread post of this topic that I report the shit each time but nothing much is done. Sometimes it is reported back that the situation is taken care of but the next day the same user starts the same shit again. And again. I do not know if you can't comprehend what I type or just plainly can't read, but please try to do so before you try to modderate this thread. I comprehend rather perfectly what you wrote, the issue here being that you are completely wrong and expect a forum to make an essential part for its functioning disappear just because of a number of threads and users. This is if anything an issue of lack of resources/efficiency in moderation, not a matter of removing actually useful subforums because "too much troll" that most of the part is not even allowed by the rules and can actually be reported and taken care of. Casual Discussion is the Off Topic subforum of MAL. Make a quick search and tell me how many forums don't have an Off Topic section. And keep your condescending tones for yourself. No you do not. The problem is not a few posts.. More than 90% of the threads and posts break the rules. Not even half of them get reported because it's got to the point that it's deemed completely normal. The ones that do don't really change anything.. At best the post will get deleted .. And the user will just continue breaking the rules. You say this is a problem in moderation efficiency and indeed it is.. While that is the case, this is not the first time the issue is addressed and I really can't see any plans from the mods to start modderating CD more. It's almost as if the shit is too much to deal with and they can't be bothered. So really...it's much better to have the shit removed than let the rule breakers continue on with the shit. Also.. I am typing and really have no tone. At max in popular internet culture, block capital sentences are seen as 'yelling'. There's no other tone, especially a condensing one.I really dong understand why you're taking stuff as offense when they do not insult you in any way. You do not own Casual Discussion. |
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| Still not getting the point that a subforum exists to offer an alternative of discussion, if 90% of the threads and posts break the rules then the solution is making moderation more efficient and not removing an entire subforum with the specific purpose it was created under, which is actually useful to keep a coherent structure in this forum and have a place to label any threads and discussions that don't fit in either of the rest. As said it's the Off Topic section of MAL, which equals to being essential in most if not every forum on the internet. So if you want to remove it bring an alternative that covers the same purpose. And if you want to simply get rid of the shit it's overpopulated with then ask for better moderation. What else can I say. Oh yeah, and the old "you were offended for nothing" bullshit. Sorry. I was probably overreacting at your very subtle insinuation that I didn't comprehend your post/thread or just aimed to moderate it. |
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jal90 said: Still not getting the point that a subforum exists to offer an alternative of discussion, if 90% of the threads and posts break the rules then the solution is making moderation more efficient and not removing an entire subforum with the specific purpose it was created under, which is actually useful to keep a coherent structure in this forum and have a place to label any threads and discussions that don't fit in either of the rest. As said it's the Off Topic section of MAL, which equals to being essential in most if not every forum on the internet. So if you want to remove it bring an alternative that covers the same purpose. And if you want to simply get rid of the shit it's overpopulated with then ask for better moderation. What else can I say. Oh yeah, and the old "you were offended for nothing" bullshit. Sorry. I was probably overreacting at your very subtle insinuation that I didn't comprehend your post/thread or just aimed to moderate it. That's exactly the solution, and it's not happening. And you really can't see that there's no plans for it happening.. I already typed this in my previous post and you claim you can perfectly comprehend. Then why bring up the same points from before? Also.. I have no idea what the fuck insuination means but yeah.. You were offended and that's that. There's nothing more to be said about it really. |
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teruu said: Aaaand with this statement you basically lost every "respect" that the users here show to you. Ok so you don't give a fuck about others opinion, so why should we care about yours?I really don't give a fuck about what you find fun. Majority of the threads, especially the ones you find fun are breaking the casual discussion rules which btw are on sticky. I suggest you go read those.. |
Tehqo said: There's a difference between addressing an issue and stating an opinion. While I have done both, it seems that you really don't understand what this suggestion board is for. |
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Delenai said: teruu said: Aaaand with this statement you basically lost every "respect" that the users here show to you. Ok so you don't give a fuck about others opinion, so why should we care about yours?I really don't give a fuck about what you find fun. Majority of the threads, especially the ones you find fun are breaking the casual discussion rules which btw are on sticky. I suggest you go read those.. Because I really don't see a 'I find it fun' as a valid reason to let rule breakers continue breaking rules. And I really don't know how anyone else can either Also please note that I don't want anyone's respect. |
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| Oh, you claimed that Casual Discussion is a necessity in a forum and there's an issue with the way it's handled/moderated. Okay. I misread your posts as "remove CD, there's too much trolling and attention whoring" but it was just me and my terrible reading comprehension. Sorry. I'm done here. Okay goodbye |
| People should really read the OP before ''going hurr durr'' |
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EverydayIfight said: People should really read the OP before ''going hurr durr'' And what does the OP say if I may ask? Anything I implied it didn't? |
| B-b-but how am I going to inflate my post count? Seriously, though, MAL needs a Spam subforum. |
on jal90 said: Oh, you claimed that Casual Discussion is a necessity in a forum and there's an issue with the way it's handled/moderated. Okay. I misread your posts as "remove CD, there's too much trolling and attention whoring" but it was just me and my terrible reading comprehension. Sorry. I'm done here. Okay goodbye You again proved your terrible reading comprehension, which you also admmitted to having. BatoKusanagi said: B-b-but how am I going to inflate my post count? Seriously, though, MAL needs a Spam subforum. Forum games. |
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BatoKusanagi said: Forum games. Elaborate. |
BatoKusanagi said: BatoKusanagi said: Forum games. Elaborate. If you want to inflate your post count, go to the forum games. |
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teruu said: posts in forum games doesn't count toward your post count tho.BatoKusanagi said: Elaborate. If you want to inflate your post count, go to the forum games. |
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Kuma-Kuma said: teruu said: posts in forum games doesn't count toward your post count tho.If you want to inflate your post count, go to the forum games. Which is why I was confused about his reply. |
BatoKusanagi said: Kuma-Kuma said: posts in forum games doesn't count toward your post count tho. Which is why I was confused about his reply. Oh ! I'm sorry. I did not know that. Well.. There is the club threads. |
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| If only... |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| RIP MAL if this guy ever becomes a mod. I'd vote for Kanye before that. |
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