Difference Between Bad Drama (Emotionally exploitative?) and Good Drama?

DrCoppelius said:
You don't get to care for the characters before bad stuff is dumped on them. Bad drama makes you feel sad because bad things are happening. Good drama makes you feel sad because you understand and relate to the characters' emotions. That's my take on it anyway.

There's always going to be a personal element to what makes good or bad drama though. I liked Evangelion a lot because he reminded me of myself in several ways when I was a few years younger, but some people aren't like him at all, so they end up not relating to him at all and finding him unbearable. It's similar with OreGairu. Lots of people find themselves similar to Hachiman and that makes it easier for the show to create empathy between the viewer and the character, even if the drama isn't that well-done. For someone like me who's a complete opposite to him in various ways, there's simply complete detachment.

TokonatsuYuu said:
When they kill off characters for the sake of making you cry.

Extreme3708 said:
Can you write why you think Shigatsu, Yahari and WA2 are examples of bad drama?

ExTamplier said:

Shigatsu, "oh boy, let's make an anime about poorly recorded on digital music with crappy animation, and kill the girl for "drama""
Go watch "Nodame Cantabile" or "Kids on the Slope" to see how it is done right.

Yahari, (season 2 only) http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1399180

WA2, man there is just so much crap I can write about this absolute unrealistic show. Too bad I am lazy, so I'll make it short:

ExTamplier said:

Dude, it's like July. p.s why quote a spoiler, I can't fix this now.

extamplier said:
Nah, can't ruin a crap show with that.

Extreme3708 said:


Damn you niggas are dark asf, what is the point of watching anime if you take this shit to this level. I didnt get sad when the main girl died in shigatsu but it was still a good show. Yahari season 2 had a lot of character development, maybe you dont like hachiman anymore since he aint saying those quotes you loners cant relate to anymore.and though I agree Sakamichi no apollon was a good drama, but shit angel beats had one hell of an asspull with that ending that I thought no other anime will ever come up with again.... until I watched that ghost banri shit in Golden time

CG-Silver said:

What a retard. Just see the reason you wrote that you dropped it for.

bukalaka said:
hachiman crying? are you serious? he was crying about anything at all, maybe somebody kicked his nuts? maybe someone died? but who? maybe he got rejected, maybe somebody kicked his nuts again? but noooo he cried for some unforeseeable reason and I wont say what.

Deus-Vult said:
H&C, Nodame Cantabile, Kids on the Slope, Nana, and etc. are examples of good drama

ExTamplier said:

Hey, this is exception.

bukalaka said:
hachiman crying? are you serious? he was crying about anything at all, maybe somebody kicked his nuts? maybe someone died? but who? maybe he got rejected, maybe somebody kicked his nuts again? but noooo he cried for some unforeseeable reason and I wont say what.

bukalaka said:
is beck any good? I was actually planning on watching it tonight

TheBasedNico said:


what about remove kebab: the animation

bukalaka said:
is beck any good? I was actually planning on watching it tonight

TheBasedNico said:


what about remove kebab: the animation

CG-Silver said:

I actually watched it because of that xD or else I would have never laid my hands on charcaters that looked like sticks.


Yeah sorry. I get upset over even the smallest of spoilers. But after that retard posted about Shigatsu your's one can't be even called a spoiler

Loli-Sazanami said:
Bad Drama : If Main characters were teenagers, Forced drama that feels unnatural, Killing the characters for the sake of making you cry, Fake Character development with no buildup, if the art looks like otaku pandering garbage.

Ex : All anime made by Jun Maeda like Clannad and Angel Beats, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Plastic Memories, Shigatsu, Nagi no Asakura, Kokoro Connect, Glasslip, Sakurasou, Toradora, Akame ga Kill, Ano Hana, Elfen Lied, Fairy Tail, Naruto, Guilty Crown, SAO, Oreimo, Tokyo Ghoul, Vampire Knight, Terraformars, and every single modern seasonal anime with drama genre on it.

Loli-Sazanami said:
Good Drama : It has to be meaningful, the event that was happening must feel natural and realistic, some done right backstories might give them actual character development.

Ex : Monster, Nana, Rose of Versailes, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Princess Tutu, War in the Pocket, Planetes, Blue Gender, Usagi Drop.


Bad Drama : If Main characters were teenagers, Forced drama that feels unnatural, Killing the characters for the sake of making you cry, Fake Character development with no buildup, if the art looks like otaku pandering garbage.

Ex : All anime made by Jun Maeda like Clannad and Angel Beats, Plastic Memories, Shigatsu, Nagi no Asakura, Kokoro Connect, Glasslip, Sakurasou, Toradora, Akame ga Kill, Ano Hana, Elfen Lied, Fairy Tail, Naruto, Guilty Crown, SAO, Oreimo, Tokyo Ghoul, Vampire Knight, Terraformars, and every single modern seasonal anime with drama genre on it.

ExTamplier said:

I also like that part in the manga where:

Ventose said:
Isn't Clannad some supernatural shit

bukalaka said:
been waiting forever for usagi drop season 2 now.. don't tell me the main guy too hooks up with that hot milf?! :DDD

bukalaka said:
been waiting forever for usagi drop season 2 now.. don't tell me the main guy too hooks up with that hot milf?! :DDD

bukalaka said:
I agree to your good drama list, but I just can't accept the fact you are ridiculing Jun because that guy writes one of the best dramas, and no i am not fangasming over his works. clannad was pretty boring for me too actually, but it really shined with after story, like it could even make it up to high spot as a stand alone series. lol. also sakuraso was actually not bad for your usual school romcom drama set. :( i see nagi no asukara too, well the drama went little overboard at times but it never actually crossed the line. besides characters were great except for few expections.

ExTamplier said:
Did you read the spoiler?

Ventose said:
Isn't Clannad some supernatural shit

ExTamplier said:
I also like that part in the manga where:

CG-Silver said:

I read the spoiler since they have no plans for season 2 and I won't be reading the manga. But is that why everyone hates the manga? I think I can understand them a bit but I won't ever guess how it got to that point.

Loli-Sazanami said:


Clannad After Story is bad too, just because of Deus Ex Machina reset ending, it completely ruined the story and it`s a huge asspull.
Sakurasou was bad just because when their dreams has been shattered then the story gets worst and worst and the drama is so unrealistic and the character development is so forced as hell with no build up.

About Nagi no Asakura, the visuals were the great things about this anime, the characters completely ruined it.

ExTamplier said:
The problem is not with the ending, but with how it has been executed. It has 10+ years time skip after ending of season 1, and all relationship buildups make no sense then. Also everything is really forced.

Otaku_Buster said:
Valid reasons have already stated, but I would like to add that for me a good drama is where it gives an impact to you like you feel what the characters are feeling in their current situation.

A bad drama is where you can't feel or connect to what character feel, for me I can't or understand why the character is acting that way for reasons like their problem is just trivial or they are just being melodramatic.

ExTamplier said:
The problem is not with the ending, but with how it has been executed. It has 10+ years time skip after ending of season 1, and all relationship buildups make no sense then. Also everything is really forced.