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Jun 3, 2015 12:11 AM
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I'm watching it and I hope that pink koala gets beaten soon lol
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Agafin said:
@ Krunchy

You should go look up "Vows and restrictions" or rewatch Yorknew to better understand Gon's power surge. Your comment clearly shows that you don't even know of their existence or forgot about them.
You missed my point, it doesn't really matter, if he took his power out of ass or it felt from the sky. Even if his power surge is well-founded, it still very cliche.
Jun 3, 2015 9:47 AM

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Krunchy said:
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@ Krunchy

You should go look up "Vows and restrictions" or rewatch Yorknew to better understand Gon's power surge. Your comment clearly shows that you don't even know of their existence or forgot about them.
You missed my point, it doesn't really matter, if he took his power out of ass or it felt from the sky. Even if his power surge is well-founded, it still very cliche.


jajajaja you dont even know what its chicle, why is cliche,"Cliche" does NOT mean bad but there are bad cliches

IN FACT your comment without any argumentation is cliche.
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Jun 3, 2015 5:28 PM

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It was the best arc in my opinion, at least character development-wise. Yes, there were some bland and downright boring episodes, but this arc is over 60 episodes long and there are at least 12 amazing episodes, which is how long a typical anime season is. So if you take just the top 12 episodes from this arc then you would be looking at something which could be labelled as an astounding anime.
Jun 3, 2015 8:17 PM

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notsomacho said:
Every fuckign fight since then still has the cliched (pausing midfight to explain their special abilities and thoughts) crap. You don't need to explain to me that character x just landed a hard hit on character y. SHOW IT TO ME.

That was my favorite part of the fights :( I guess if you want mindless violence, HxH isn't for you. And if it's so "cliched", tell me one more show that follows this cliche! Please.
Jun 4, 2015 6:06 AM

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AttackOnTetris said:
notsomacho said:
Every fuckign fight since then still has the cliched (pausing midfight to explain their special abilities and thoughts) crap. You don't need to explain to me that character x just landed a hard hit on character y. SHOW IT TO ME.

That was my favorite part of the fights :( I guess if you want mindless violence, HxH isn't for you. And if it's so "cliched", tell me one more show that follows this cliche! Please.


The funny part is that there was never a moment where in a fight the narrator stated facts like "character x just landed a hard hit on character y" (at least till where he is at of what I can remember), I would love if someone pointed an example of that happening to prove me wrong though. Most of the time the narrator explained facts that was of a strategic nature and needed to be explained for the viewer to understand how the fight was won or not... Well something tells me he ain't gonna like the CA arc at all anyways.
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Jun 4, 2015 6:06 AM

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Krunchy said:
Agafin said:
@ Krunchy

You should go look up "Vows and restrictions" or rewatch Yorknew to better understand Gon's power surge. Your comment clearly shows that you don't even know of their existence or forgot about them.
You missed my point, it doesn't really matter, if he took his power out of ass or it felt from the sky. Even if his power surge is well-founded, it still very cliche.


Why something being cliche is automatically bad? Why was this instance bad? What makes a cliche bad for you?
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Jun 4, 2015 6:09 AM

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AttackOnTetris said:
notsomacho said:
Every fuckign fight since then still has the cliched (pausing midfight to explain their special abilities and thoughts) crap. You don't need to explain to me that character x just landed a hard hit on character y. SHOW IT TO ME.

I guess if you want mindless violence, HxH isn't for you.

You guys are so funny..
Jun 4, 2015 11:51 AM

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@vedatsvet @cronosteso23
You may enjoy cliche shounens with edgy kids beating shit out of enemies, but I don't, so don't force me to like it.

Jun 4, 2015 12:13 PM

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^ I hated that Gon going super sayian moment too, but to say that the whole arc sucked because of it is just stupid.
Jun 4, 2015 12:15 PM

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It is my favorite arc from Hunter x Hunter.
Without it I would have probably rated it with 8/10.
Jun 4, 2015 12:46 PM

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Krunchy said:
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You may enjoy cliche shounens with edgy kids beating shit out of enemies, but I don't, so don't force me to like it.



Where in my post did I force you to like it? O.O

I wrote.... "Why something being cliche is automatically bad? Why was this instance bad? What makes a cliche bad for you?"

I am questioning your post about this being bad because of cliches.... You not liking it, has nothing to do with anything here.
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Jun 4, 2015 2:04 PM

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If your not a fan of long and dramatic dialogue and character driven arcs then I can see. For me the only problem I had was the slow pacing it had in the anime which I can't really blame them on.

Jun 4, 2015 2:11 PM

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Aqua said:
If your not a fan of long and dramatic dialogue and character driven arcs then I can see. For me the only problem I had was the slow pacing it had in the anime which I can't really blame them on.

I don't think HxH has character driven arcs. It's plot or rather event driven, like most long running battle series.

Chimera ant arc in particular is plot driven.
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hmmmm true tho I always saw always saw CA as a mixture due to the dramatic development cause of those events affecting the characters

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Narration nearly ruined this arc for me.

so much of what was said by narration could have been said by the characters in a few sentences. Narration takes up like 5-10 minutes per episode.
Jun 5, 2015 12:33 AM

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because that ep131
Jun 5, 2015 3:09 AM

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Tylerr said:
Narration nearly ruined this arc for me.

so much of what was said by narration could have been said by the characters in a few sentences. Narration takes up like 5-10 minutes per episode.


No it couldn't be said by the charcaters, because the time was slowed down. Literally many things were happening in spans of seconds, characters would need to talk in a 3x speed to provide information.
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vedatsvet said:
Tylerr said:
Narration nearly ruined this arc for me.

so much of what was said by narration could have been said by the characters in a few sentences. Narration takes up like 5-10 minutes per episode.


No it couldn't be said by the charcaters, because the time was slowed down. Literally many things were happening in spans of seconds, characters would need to talk in a 3x speed to provide information.


He wasn't always providing useful information though
Jun 5, 2015 5:05 AM

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@vedatsvet

I didn't say all cliches are bad, rest of your questions was already answered in my previous posts.
Jun 5, 2015 5:59 AM

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I didn't say all cliches are bad, rest of your questions was already answered in my previous posts.


You have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

Yea you didn't say that all cliches are bad, you said that Gon's power up is a cliche and that particular cliche is bad. You never give reasons of why you think it is bad.

You never answered any of my questions in any post of yours, unless I missed a post or something. Would you be kind enough to explain it to me so I could understand your reasoning?
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vedatsvet said:
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I didn't say all cliches are bad, rest of your questions was already answered in my previous posts.


You have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

Yea you didn't say that all cliches are bad, you said that Gon's power up is a cliche and that particular cliche is bad. You never give reasons of why you think it is bad.

You never answered any of my questions in any post of yours, unless I missed a post or something. Would you be kind enough to explain it to me so I could understand your reasoning?

I doubt he will. I've been waiting for him to provide anything worth discussing but so far he's only be spouting vapid one liners and even said that he doesn't care about explanations (while showing that he doesn't even know vows and restrictions are, relative to nen).
notsomacho said:
I just finished episode 97 and I fucking hate this arc. It's sooo long and sooo boring.

Episode 34 (Gon vs Hisoka) was easily the best fight in the entire series. Why? Because the commentator shuts her fucking yapper, the crowd goes silent, and all the internal dialogue shuts off. I assumed that would continue.

Every fuckign fight since then still has the cliched (pausing midfight to explain their special abilities and thoughts) crap. You don't need to explain to me that character x just landed a hard hit on character y. SHOW IT TO ME.

God. I just want Avatar fights in every anime. They did it so much better


If I read that correctly, what you want are fights with without any sort of monologues, dialogues, narration or any other form of depth, just characters throwing punches at each other? Then I'm sorry but you won't find that here. No main fight in HxH is like that, and certainly not Hisoka Vs Gon. I mean, when did the commentator and crowd stop speaking? No monologue or dialogue? For goodness sake, there was even quiz during that fight. It really seems like you don't even know what you're talking about. And there is hardly any of what you mentioned in other fights either.

Also, your comment makes it seem like all you care about are fights. I hope I'm wrong.

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AttackOnTetris said:

That was my favorite part of the fights :( I guess if you want mindless violence, HxH isn't for you. And if it's so "cliched", tell me one more show that follows this cliche! Please.


The funny part is that there was never a moment where in a fight the narrator stated facts like "character x just landed a hard hit on character y" (at least till where he is at of what I can remember), I would love if someone pointed an example of that happening to prove me wrong though. Most of the time the narrator explained facts that was of a strategic nature and needed to be explained for the viewer to understand how the fight was won or not... Well something tells me he ain't gonna like the CA arc at all anyways.


Yeah, I've already said that before but I believe that its rather easy to miss the purpose of the narration. Funny (or ironic) thing is that most people who say that the narration explained what they already knew are the same people asking questions like "how did Gon power up?", "how could Pitou move without a head?" Makes you wonder if there shouldn't have been more "obvious" narration.

Also why the hell dd you change your username? I will still continue to call you soundscape for a while :p
Jun 5, 2015 7:37 AM

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You know, it seems very likely, he just wants good fights without monologues or narration. It doesn't mean he wants said fights to be mindless. It's not mutually exclusive. A smart fight can exist without monologues, narraation or explanation. And a fight can be mindless with the existences of those things, there is two examples of that in the later half of CA arc.

I don't know why, the fans of this show in particular, try to twist, what everybody means, in order to elevate the show's superiority, or pretend the actual flaw, is in the expectations of the viewer.

A: ''I don't like the narration''
Fan: ''Oh, so you just want cliche monologues, that don't provide the depth narration does to the scenes. Go watch your cliche shounen, HxH is clearly not for you or your taste :/''

So passive aggressive. Thank god, the anime ended.
Jun 5, 2015 9:25 AM

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tsudecimo, I'm really surprised that you of all people would say such a thing when I thought that you know the difference between fact and opinion.

Do HxH fights have narration, internal monologues or dialogue? Yes and that's a fact.
Do those make them automatically good? Absolutely not since that's an opinion and depends on the individual watching.

Both notsomacho and I will agree with the first statement but disagree with the second for that reason. Only reason I quoted him is because he tried to substantiate that with factually wrong data (everything he said about Hisoka Vs Gon). You just apply different standards depending on whether the person who says "HxH fights have narration" says it positively or not which is quite hypocritical and insecure.

And I never knew that you were happy about HxH ending. Thought you were a fan, guess I was wrong.
Jun 5, 2015 9:41 AM

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What does facts and opinions have to do with anything? my post was more about the general attitude, and the ''mindless fights'' notion, not directed to the hypocrisy part you are talking about.

With the anime ending, there is less activity of hxh fans, than 2014, and I'm thankful for that, no need to overinterpret that, the context was quite clear. I only like/appreciate half of HxH, anyway.
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The same can be said about the general attitude of the haters with the "spoonfeeding" notion. While the word "cliché" in this thread was used to characterise HxH not other battle anime so it seems to me that people are just expressing their opinions and you are projecting.

I wouldn't be glad that any series I (half) like to end just because I dislike the fanbase but I guess we're diffferent.
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T'ch.

People, some of them being HxH fans, showed examples of why they think the narration is bad, before you joined the site, in fact, any discussion or point of view about the narration issue has been covered by the fans and the ''haters''. I don't even see how is this comparable to something defensive fans, intrepreting on their own, at least I didn't see anyone post, that they want mindless fights, over narration. As the only ones being dismissive are the fans.

I'm talking about this at general, not this thread. The only thing that I directly took from this thread and implemented in my previous posts, was the mindless fight thing, which 2 users, in this thread posted on their own, so no I'm not projecting anything.

Whatever, I don't really see the point in trying to explain to you what I meant, your bad reading comprehension (that seems common these days) is not my problem, take from that statement what you want, as I really don't care for your passive aggressiveness all together.
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@ Agafin

I just got bored, I'll change it back eventually. If you knew russian the new name is kinda neat(imo)

babymimi said:
vedatsvet said:


No it couldn't be said by the charcaters, because the time was slowed down. Literally many things were happening in spans of seconds, characters would need to talk in a 3x speed to provide information.


He wasn't always providing useful information though



That's different from what the other poster implied.

I can understand the info not being useful, but then again useless info was the minority. Also the purpose of the narration for me was not to repeat what was on screen, but ok, at least I can understand why people don't like it when they perceive it "at face value" so to speak.
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And people, some of them being HxH fans/haters, showed examples of why they think the narration is good, before I joined the site, I don't know what is the point of saying that.

Defensive fans are comparable (basically identical but in opposite ways) to aggressive haters like these:

Krunchy said:
Top 5? Oh... we have a lot of young boys on MAL, it never deserved to be in top 5.

Neji said:
Maybe I am getting old for this stuff or maybe funboys are just deluded.


but just like I said you apply different standards to both.

You've been more passive aggressive than me tsud but you're right, I don't need any explanation since it' not even something important anyway. .
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Why should i watch it ?

Let me start, by saying HXH 2011 is amazing, i loved and enjoy every single second of the anime until the end of Yorknew City arc. overall so far 9.5/10

The Bad : When Greed Island Arc started it confused me, it deviates from the plot or had little bit to do with it, to say the least. For me it started going downhill at that moment, however it was still enjoyable and fun. rating of the arc 7.8/10

Now After that arc, it seemed that killua and Gon were about to hop into the main plot once again. Only to find out that we come a cross a damn giantic chimera ant ? i thought it was a joke and it would be a filler, but it actually turned into a huuuuuuuuuuge arc.

To say the least let me just add that i was enjoying so much the overall areas of the anime like the fighting style and the main story, until these weird creatures came into it.

Can someone please explain me why this is happening. i like animes that even though they had nothing of realistic on it they still grasp that feeling by only involving humanoids ( like demons or angels, etc) or mutants that resemble humans , however the idea of talking animals was not really appealing to me.

Once again if someone could please let me know why should i watch it, cause I just dropped it and i want to know if its any good or if you agree with me. I really need someone to tell me the good of this arc and how it is exciting to watch it.

Maybe because you want the Phantom Troupe to be the main awesome antagonist of the story?Like the Akasuki in Naruto and Espadas in Bleach.Haha.
Just kidding. Well it was kind of a bummer because Greed Island Arc was so boring, and i feel i don't want the vibe i get from Yorknew City Arc to disappear. But starting from Chimera Ant Arc, i kinna get the vibe again and yeah the arc maybe overextending a little but its worth it coz the ending is too emotional..................my heart :(
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vedatsvet said:


That's different from what the other poster implied.

I can understand the info not being useful, but then again useless info was the minority. Also the purpose of the narration for me was not to repeat what was on screen, but ok, at least I can understand why people don't like it when they perceive it "at face value" so to speak.


The OP still implied that narration takes up 10 minutes per episodes when it could've been way shorter. Whatever the purpose was it wasn't always needed. There were moments when some elements had to be told by a narrator (ep 112 had perfect narration towards the end) but remember that episode when Killua killed 2 ants to protect the octopus guy? The narrator wasn't needed & that's why people don't like it. Sometimes it's epic, sometimes it's just a waste of time. & on top of that, slow motion. I love this arc but I can understand how some people dislike this arc because of the narrator.
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babymimi said:
vedatsvet said:


That's different from what the other poster implied.

I can understand the info not being useful, but then again useless info was the minority. Also the purpose of the narration for me was not to repeat what was on screen, but ok, at least I can understand why people don't like it when they perceive it "at face value" so to speak.


The OP still implied that narration takes up 10 minutes per episodes when it could've been way shorter. Whatever the purpose was it wasn't always needed. There were moments when some elements had to be told by a narrator (ep 112 had perfect narration towards the end) but remember that episode when Killua killed 2 ants to protect the octopus guy? The narrator wasn't needed & that's why people don't like it. Sometimes it's epic, sometimes it's just a waste of time. & on top of that, slow motion. I love this arc but I can understand how some people dislike this arc because of the narrator.


He was talking about what the person he quoted said, not the OP.
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I don't think it sucked, it was more of a mixed bag. The pacing was what really let the arc down along with some boring aspects such as the training with knuckle and shoot and the fact that fodder characters that we'll presumably never see again received a lot of development. Still, I think the execution of themes was good and the conclusion was really great. I would probably give it a 7 or 8 out of 10 as an arc.
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babymimi said:
vedatsvet said:


That's different from what the other poster implied.

I can understand the info not being useful, but then again useless info was the minority. Also the purpose of the narration for me was not to repeat what was on screen, but ok, at least I can understand why people don't like it when they perceive it "at face value" so to speak.


The OP still implied that narration takes up 10 minutes per episodes when it could've been way shorter. Whatever the purpose was it wasn't always needed. There were moments when some elements had to be told by a narrator (ep 112 had perfect narration towards the end) but remember that episode when Killua killed 2 ants to protect the octopus guy? The narrator wasn't needed & that's why people don't like it. Sometimes it's epic, sometimes it's just a waste of time. & on top of that, slow motion. I love this arc but I can understand how some people dislike this arc because of the narrator.


I agree with what you write here. But I feel like you are going off track.

He wrote "so much of what was said by narration could have been said by the characters in a few sentences."

The fact if it takes 10 minutes or if it is useful or not is irrelevant to what I responded. I merely said that it couldn't be narrated by the characters, and that is true.
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"there is less activity of hxh fans, than 2014, and I'm thankful for that"
I would like to say: Thanks god, pierrot finished the "best anime of the world"

1. The big mistake of CA ARC was that Kite should have appeared on episode 1
what I dont like of this version was the scene of the episode 76:

-Gon: are you the one who saved me back then.... on whale island..... that time you had to kill, in order to protect me
-kite: oh yes. i remember now... You've grown, GON
- Gon: How do you know my name
:The impact or the first impression about Kite was very poorly done

But who saw the manga version or 99 version understood how important was kite:
-gon: gin?
-kite: is that gon chan... oh, you´ve grown up but what are you doing here
-gon: kaito
http://mangafox.me/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v18/c185/13.html
Then, gon's reaction have sense.

2. JAIRO's history:
nobody understood what was the reason of the flashback
Madhouse omitted/skiped important info

http://mangafox.me/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v20/c204/9.html
"his determination for evil kept his memories from when he was an human intact. IN A SENSE, HE WAS REBORN SIMPLY AS JAIRO. he wasable to leave the queen's control most likely due to his own PRIDE OF BEING A KING HIMSELF.
Jairo did not rush things"

-Jairo: I'm starting from nothing
appropiate preparations must be made in order to achieve great things. His time spent at the construction site had given him the ability to think logically and constructively.

"GON AND JAIRO DID NOT END UP MEETING.. AND JAIRO LEFT THIS TOWN AND DISAPPEARED SOMEWHERE. WHETHER THAT WAS FORTUNATE FOR THE TWO OF THEM OR NOT, IT WILL REMAIN UNKNOWN UNTIL THEY EVENTUALLY MEET."

it's sure that Jairo will be the final villain
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@Agafin

You missed one important point, If I would be hater, I would rate it 1 or 2, but I didn't. I came here to leave my impression on anime and I got instantly swarmed by bunch of fanboys. If you react on this word, that means you probably are one.

@vedatsvet

I don't like to repeat myself, but it seems I have to.
I don't enjoy crappy battle shounen fights with overpowered characters. The moment I see "YO IM MADA FAKIN BADASS AND IM GONNA KICK YOUR ASS", I skip the scene, I'm not interested in watching something you know what the result will come off.
You may like such things, but I don't, so I don't really see a point of questioning why it's bad.
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Krunchy said:
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You missed one important point, If I would be hater, I would rate it 1 or 2, but I didn't. I came here to leave my impression on anime and I got instantly swarmed by bunch of fanboys. If you react on this word, that means you probably are one.

@vedatsvet

I don't like to repeat myself, but it seems I have to.
I don't enjoy crappy battle shounen fights with overpowered characters. The moment I see "YO IM MADA FAKIN BADASS AND IM GONNA KICK YOUR ASS", I skip the scene, I'm not interested in watching something you know what the result will come off.
You may like such things, but I don't, so I don't really see a point of questioning why it's bad.


So basically you can't provide a coherent argument. There is difference between disliking something, just because, and disliking something for a reason.

And let get things straight here, you didn't " I came here to leave my impression on anime and I got instantly swarmed by bunch of fanboys"....

You insulted everything you could with no reasons and no coherent arguments, and then "fanboys" questioned your "impression on anime".

This is what you wrote...... "I was enjoying hxh until Ponzu death, then everything went downgrade, it turned into very stereotypical shounen fights, badasses, power up, more power up, exceptionally prolonged ending. I had to skip a lot of fights, in one Gon cannot win with squadron leader, in next he bet royal guard to unrecognizable pulp ლ(ಠ_ಠ ლ).
And author resolves about monsters vs humans are not match for such animes as Shiki or Shinsekai yori, which show this concept light years better.

Overall this arc very lowered my view on this anime. Top 5? Oh... we have a lot of young boys on MAL, it never deserved to be in top 5"

You insulted the fanbase. You didn't provide reasons for why it's stereotypical and etc.... And you insulted the author because in your opinion Shiki or Shinsekai Yori did it better(although they are a completely different genre).
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I didn't insult anyone, you are overinterpreting things, but that's the case fanboys just get butt hurt over everything.
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Krunchy, I respect your opinion, I really do but the thing is, you don't respect others' opinions. You first indexed the whole fanbase by calling them kids, and now you just go out of your way to call people fanboys left and right.

You already admitted to me that you don't care about explanations and I'm okay with that, but what I'm not okay with is you throwing around all those buzzwords since you can't even back them up (you even admitted skipping episodes which just makes things worse)

It's natural for a fan to defend something he likes so I don't know why you surprised you got replies especially when it comes to an active subforum. Post something similar in the Naruto or UBW forums and you'll get even more passionate responces. The thing is, has any fan insulted you in this thread? Not to knowledge. I don't know what the problem is.
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Krunchy said:
I didn't insult anyone, you are overinterpreting things, but that's the case fanboys just get butt hurt over everything.


Right, guess the word "insult" means something else in your head. I literally pointed out where and when you insulted someone. "Overinterepreting", what does that even mean?
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Agafin said:
Krunchy, I respect your opinion, I really do but the thing is, you don't respect others' opinions. You first indexed the whole fanbase by calling them kids, and now you just go out of your way to call people fanboys left and right.

You already admitted to me that you don't care about explanations and I'm okay with that, but what I'm not okay with is you throwing around all those buzzwords since you can't even back them up (you even admitted skipping episodes which just makes things worse)

It's natural for a fan to defend something he likes so I don't know why you surprised you got replies especially when it comes to an active subforum. Post something similar in the Naruto or UBW forums and you'll get even more passionate responces. The thing is, has any fan insulted you in this thread? Not to knowledge. I don't know what the problem is.


It seems to me you are right, constructive criticism and discussion was never his purpose, more likely he wanted to post one liners and buzzwords to express his"impressions on the anime", in the process insulting the fanbase and the author, to seem "superior" and more "intelligent" because he doesn't like those "crappy shounens" that "young boys" (implying less intelligent and with bad taste viewers) like, because he likes much "superior" shows like Shiki and Shinsekai Yori which makes him automatically more "superior" and feeds his inflated ego. Funny enough when confronted in a polite and constructive way the more "superior" one can't even form one simple coherent argument to back up his opinions.
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Jun 6, 2015 3:48 AM

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I went with fanboys when you guys started implying me something that's not the truth. Which @vedatsvet does again, arguments are on place, you just draw wrong conclusions. If I would like to insult the fanbase I would go instantly with fanboys, shit taste or sth. Young boys are the target for the battle shounens isn't it the truth? There was no any hidden meaning behind that.

Over-interpret that's the word for today, I recommend to google it.

This video sums up your attitude:
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Just wanted to answer the general question of "why narration?"

To keep true to the characters. Thank the lord messiah that they didn't give the characters out-of-character scripts in order to avoid narration.

Also, a lot of the characters acted irrational because they did not consider certain factors. Having them consider those factors in speech would contradict the whole idea of their attitude leading to irrationality.
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It was the best arc in my opinion, at least character development-wise. Yes, there were some bland and downright boring episodes, but this arc is over 60 episodes long and there are at least 12 amazing episodes, which is how long a typical anime season is. So if you take just the top 12 episodes from this arc then you would be looking at something which could be labelled as an astounding anime.


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babymimi said:


The OP still implied that narration takes up 10 minutes per episodes when it could've been way shorter. Whatever the purpose was it wasn't always needed. There were moments when some elements had to be told by a narrator (ep 112 had perfect narration towards the end) but remember that episode when Killua killed 2 ants to protect the octopus guy? The narrator wasn't needed & that's why people don't like it. Sometimes it's epic, sometimes it's just a waste of time. & on top of that, slow motion. I love this arc but I can understand how some people dislike this arc because of the narrator.


I agree with what you write here. But I feel like you are going off track.

He wrote "so much of what was said by narration could have been said by the characters in a few sentences."

The fact if it takes 10 minutes or if it is useful or not is irrelevant to what I responded. I merely said that it couldn't be narrated by the characters, and that is true.


Sometimes characters could've talked instead of the narrator.
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Maybe, give me an example of an instance that it could happen...
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Krunchy said:
I went with fanboys when you guys started implying me something that's not the truth. Which @vedatsvet does again, arguments are on place, you just draw wrong conclusions. If I would like to insult the fanbase I would go instantly with fanboys, shit taste or sth. Young boys are the target for the battle shounens isn't it the truth? There was no any hidden meaning behind that.

Over-interpret that's the word for today, I recommend to google it.

This video sums up your attitude:



In the context you were using it and the tone of your post, the meaning that is implied is insulting. If it is not like that, then I made a mistake. That is why I asked questions to clarify your meaning. You never answered anything though, you continued with vague onliners, so don't be offended if you are misinterpreted.

The video sums up the fact that you can't construct any real argument, that's what it sums up. If you want any real discussion, you need to stop the vague onliners and buzzwords and start giving real reasons.
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Yo man, I clarified my self 3 times, 3 damn times, each time I was ignored. I don't see a point of further explaining myself just to hear "I'm not willing to make any effort, so I will post you haven't argument, let he produce his ass off". It's pointless.
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Yo man, I clarified my self 3 times, 3 damn times, each time I was ignored. I don't see a point of further explaining myself just to hear "I'm not willing to make any effort, so I will post you haven't argument, let he produce his ass off". It's pointless.


What? O.O

Ok, I guess? Have a nice day, sir.
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Best Arc of any anime. I've seen so many different sides of character's and i am so happy I actually decided to give this show a shot.
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