This list of rape/sexual assault isn't here to denounce the use of rape/sexual assault in stories, but to instigate discussion into each series and the use of it. For example, Berserk, most people so far have agreed that it uses rape delicately, and with care, and because of this, has led the characters and the viewer to discover new facets of the perpetrator and victims of this act. Therefore I'll comprise the above series in a 'Correct' way to use rape/sexual assault in a story, and a 'incorrect' way based on users feedback. Red_Keys said: It's lazy because it gives an effortless excuse to make a character unlikable. When a character decides to rape someone, it's usually not even about the rape itself. It's about the audience's reaction to the act of rape. It's cheap "anger mongering". It's shameless emotional manipulation. It's a big neon sign that either says "THIS CHARACTER IS EVILLLLLL" or "THIS CHARACTER IS A VICTIMMM". What annoys me most is when it's used as a brief threatening conflict, just so another character can step in and save the day. You see this a lot in shoujo. The main character is OH NO, ABOUT TO GET RAPED!! Only to at the LAST MINUTE! be saved by the romantic interest. HE'S SUCH A MAN!! And then it's never mentioned, talked about, thought about, or referenced ever again. Kakoii!!!! Or when you need a villain, and so you just throw in that they're a rapist so that the audience has motivation to dislike them. Even if rape has jack shit to do with the story and doesn't add any form of depth to either the perpetrator or the victim. It's just, you know, THEY'RE BAD NOW! LOOK AT HOW BAD THEY ARE!! It's like killing puppies. You need the audience to dislike a character? Just have them kill a puppy. Then move on. They're EVIL now. It's lazy because it takes no skill, and is usually done with no respect for the gravity of the act itself, and it's repercussions are usually limited to the emotions of the audience. |
CamzarcarMay 30, 2015 10:54 PM
| What is this about |
| Go read some NTR hentai |
| It is used as a common thing almost like running gag that is why it is placed even in series that are not that dark and you would least suspect it. |
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| It's about sexual assaults in anime and how people feel about the absurdity/number of animes that include it when most of the time It's nonsensical. I also feel internally hurt when I see these scenes. So you can include your thoughts/feelings about it if you want. |
| Lol you don't even know how perfectly normal rape is in yaoi manga. Also Amira is half angel and demon. |
Dull_LullMay 27, 2015 5:17 AM
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| thank you anita sarkeesian for poisoning another feminist free zone Klad said: What is this about more feminist rants on rape culture from the looks of it nothing worth reading tbh TL;DR version is "all men are murderers and rapists" |
 I signed my screen and now its all smeary "When you meet your God tell him to leave me alone." check out my bloghttp://corpse69.wordpress.com/ fix MAL already |
| All the spoilers. Every spoiler. Spoilers that could be possibly thought of at the time. |
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Exowave said: It is used as a common thing almost like running gag. I could see how it could be used as a running gag if they made fun of the fact that it was a running gag, but they don't. In Binbougami ga, it would have been a perfect opportunity for the girl characters who wanted revenge to say something like: - 'hey, is she going to get uhh...sexually assaulted by those guys' - 'what...what..why would you even say that...no...we're just going to scare her with ghost puppets' But they just blatantly talked about how they're going to blackmail her with the video and how if she resists and wails it'll be even better....in a comedic series. |
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Corpse69 said: thank you anita sarkeesian for poisoning another feminist free zone Klad said: What is this about more feminist rants on rape culture from the looks of it nothing worth reading tbh TL;DR version is "all men are murderers and rapists" This isn't supposed to be a feminist rant... You find it okay that rape is in so much anime? cool... |
Tenshi_Shura said: Lol you don't even know how perfectly normal rape is in yaoi manga. Also Amira is half angel and demon. I know she is, but I was typing a lot of information so it was easier to just say female lead |
| I love them especially if I like the characters (Misaki and Tora). Ho ho ho I'm sexist ho ho ho no I'm not. |
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Tenshi_Shura said: I love them especially if I like the characters (Misaki and Tora). Ho ho ho I'm sexist ho ho ho no I'm not. Fair enough. What about if she hadn't of got saved? Then she would of got forcibly raped and she couldn't of possibly escaped. |
| Has anyone here read what the OP said? |
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Camzarcar said: Corpse69 said: thank you anita sarkeesian for poisoning another feminist free zone more feminist rants on rape culture from the looks of it nothing worth reading tbh TL;DR version is "all men are murderers and rapists" This isn't supposed to be a feminist rant... You find it okay that rape is in so much anime? cool... im completly ok with fictional rape cross that line though i wont have a part of it or sit by idle. |
| I signed my screen and now its all smeary "When you meet your God tell him to leave me alone." check out my bloghttp://corpse69.wordpress.com/ fix MAL already |
| well, most of anime viewers are Horny lonelyguys , what are you supposed to wish? feminisim? thats why anime have gender genre. |
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Corpse69 said: Maybe more along the lines of "the portrayal of all men being murderers and rapists is disgusting and ridiculous", if you actually read the OP.TL;DR version is "all men are murderers and rapists" And I agree. Only thing is, women aren't the only victims of sexual assault in anime. Not by far. It's just that the only time it is portrayed as something bad, is if a woman is the victim. So of course that's the only time you notice it's happening. What it all comes down to is lazy writers needing some sort of conflict, and relying on cliches and audience expectations (big bad le evil rapist men!! Poor innocent m'lady victim!!!) to portray it. |
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Milk_is_Special said: Has anyone here read what the OP said? I did . |
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Unyilkdr said: well, most of anime viewers are Horny lonelyguys , what are you supposed to wish? feminisim? thats why anime have gender genre. Lol, I guess you may be right...Feminism means equality, so I guess it would be nice to satisfy those horny lonely guys without resorting to rape fantasies. |
Camzarcar said: Tenshi_Shura said: I love them especially if I like the characters (Misaki and Tora). Ho ho ho I'm sexist ho ho ho no I'm not. Fair enough. What about if she hadn't of got saved? Then she would of got forcibly raped and she couldn't of possibly escaped. Tora liked her in his own way. If it did happen then I would assume that Misaki would be scarred from it and he would try to fix the situation even if it doesn't end well with her. |
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Camzarcar said: Feminism means equality, maybe on paper, but all the feminists that I have seen say that men are disgusting pigs who should die, which isn't really equality, or is it... <.<Unyilkdr said: well, most of anime viewers are Horny lonelyguys , what are you supposed to wish? feminisim? thats why anime have gender genre. Lol, I guess you may be right...Feminism means equality, so I guess it would be nice to satisfy those horny lonely guys without resorting to rape fantasies. |
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Red_Keys said: Corpse69 said: Maybe more along the lines of "the portrayal of all men being murderers and rapists is disgusting and ridiculous", if you actually read the OP.TL;DR version is "all men are murderers and rapists" And I agree. Only thing is, women aren't the only victims of sexual assault in anime. Not by far. It's just that the only time it is portrayed as something bad, is if a woman is the victim. So of course that's the only time you notice it's happening. What it all comes down to is lazy writers needing some sort of conflict, and relying on cliches and audience expectations (big bad le evil rapist men!! Poor innocent m'lady victim!!!) to portray it. Thanks for reading my original post :) I agree that women aren't the only victims, it's a tragedy whenever it happens, it would just be nice if the tragedy didn't cling to such mundane and unrealistic standards to evoke reactions rather than a feeling of understanding. |
Milk_is_Special said: Camzarcar said: Feminism means equality, maybe on paper, but all the feminists that I have seen say that men are disgusting pigs who should die, which isn't really equality, or is it... <.<Lol, I guess you may be right...Feminism means equality, so I guess it would be nice to satisfy those horny lonely guys without resorting to rape fantasies. should i make it bigger? it's not it anime fault, it's your fault to watch wrong anime! |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Milk_is_Special said: Camzarcar said: Feminism means equality, maybe on paper, but all the feminists that I have seen say that men are disgusting pigs who should die, which isn't really equality, or is it... <.<Lol, I guess you may be right...Feminism means equality, so I guess it would be nice to satisfy those horny lonely guys without resorting to rape fantasies. Feminism is as equally obnoxious as sexism. Why isn't there a middle ground for people like me who are neutral. |
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| Its unneeded most of the time.. Like the attempted assault of the main heroine in FSNUBW where its.... Just painful to watch. |
Milk_is_Special said: Camzarcar said: Feminism means equality, maybe on paper, but all the feminists that I have seen say that men are disgusting pigs who should die, which isn't really equality, or is it... <.<Lol, I guess you may be right...Feminism means equality, so I guess it would be nice to satisfy those horny lonely guys without resorting to rape fantasies. You should research equality a bit more, I'm sure you've run into the wrong people. But from my perspective, seeing a lot of anime with rape, and not wanting that isn't a bad thing. It's just something I feel strongly about. I don't lay blame on the fictional males in the shows, I lay blame to the people who include it in their work because they think they have to. |
CamzarcarMay 27, 2015 5:44 AM
| Well shows like Berserk and Claymore are set in times where shit like that was very prevalent |
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ArcAdeAlchemist said: Its unneeded most of the time.. Like the attempted assault of the main heroine in FSNUBW where its.... Just painful to watch. I just searched it, and yes, It's stupid, and painful to see :( |
Objurgo said: Well shows like Berserk and Claymore are set in times where shit like that was very prevalent I agree, and as horrible as it was to watch in Berserk and Claymore, both had distinctive purposes. Especially the Berserk one. |
| There are also reasons like this. Usualy when some potential rapist are around and they start attacking verbally first and girl gets upset and MC jumps and kicks that guy ass. That is easy plot device for scenes like that sometimes id say. |
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shintai88 said: Rape has been used as a tool for Revenge and for humiliation for many Millennia. Yes, true, It's 2015 though, It's disgusting and debases the character of all their dignity, it makes all their other traits seem less important than the act itself. |
| Don't worry, you're right. Every time they need a dark past for a female character they spin a roulette and in each option you can see "rape". In the case of the male (in most of action movies) will be a roulette with those options "my wife is dead I want revenge", "my son/daughter is dead I want revenge", "my wife has been kidnapped I want to make them pay and save her", "my son/daughter has been kidnapped I want to make them pay and save him/her", "I was an ex-police/militar/etc and my current situation is one of the above". Cliche, I guess they don't have too much imagination. At least they have two or three more situations/past, psche. But it isn't only in anime, as I've pointed, you can see this same thing in western movies, etc. I guess this situation has a pass as a past (even if they don't have any imagination and became a cliche with legs), or something bad that happens; but when they do it in a romantic or comedic form?? SIGH. Anyway, just one correction about Berserk: it happened the same with Guts, I mean, if you read one of the first chapters (manga) you'll see it happened the same with him. |
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Exowave said: There are also reasons like this. Usualy when some potential rapist are around and they start attacking verbally first and girl gets upset and MC jumps and kicks that guy ass. That is easy plot device for scenes like that sometimes id say. Why is it that there are always some rapists just lurking around...for once can't there just be a genuinely bad guy that doesn't want to rape someone. I agree that It's an easy plot device, and I think that the shows would benefit more if they reformed simple tropes into more advanced plot settings. |
| Beats me i noticed that when MC or some side character saves some girl from being rapped in anime. 95% of time at the end he will end up with her. You see rape is even used as a hint for viewers . |
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Camzarcar said: shintai88 said: Rape has been used as a tool for Revenge and for humiliation for many Millennia. Yes, true, It's 2015 though, It's disgusting and debases the character of all their dignity, it makes all their other traits seem less important than the act itself. And just because it's 2015 rape should stop being talked about and treated in media? What the fuck. |
| I do enjoy watching sexual assaults and rape as long it looks serious. But I don't like the rape like the ones in hentai because the victim enjoys and it does not look like a real rape. If you don't like rape then don't watch it. Is there a good reason why murder is ok in video games and anime, but not rape ? I don't see any reason. It is all fiction, no real person getting hurt. Camzarcar said: Cross Ange = royal princess gets cavity searched in full display of the viewer as well as implied rape from the bloody torn garments in the aftermath of it all. Supposed to show how bad the world is. That cavity search scene was soo good !! |
jal90 said: Camzarcar said: Yes, true, It's 2015 though, It's disgusting and debases the character of all their dignity, it makes all their other traits seem less important than the act itself. And just because it's 2015 rape should stop being talked about and treated in media? What the fuck. Rape shouldn't be used lightly, it happens, and It's very serious when it does. The people that say they like seeing rape in anime are my concern though. |
| no mention of this masterpiece? http://myanimelist.net/anime/4714/The_Rapeman |
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Perquisitore said: Don't worry, you're right. Every time they need a dark past for a female character they spin a roulette and in each option you can see "rape". In the case of the male (in most of action movies) will be a roulette with those options "my wife is dead I want revenge", "my son/daughter is dead I want revenge", "my wife has been kidnapped I want to make them pay and save her", "my son/daughter has been kidnapped I want to make them pay and save him/her", "I was an ex-police/militar/etc and my current situation is one of the above". Cliche, I guess they don't have too much imagination. At least they have two or three more situations/past, psche. But it isn't only in anime, as I've pointed, you can see this same thing in western movies, etc. I guess this situation has a pass as a past (even if they don't have any imagination and became a cliche with legs), or something bad that happens; but when they do it in a romantic or comedic form?? SIGH. Anyway, just one correction about Berserk: it happened the same with Guts, I mean, if you read one of the first chapters (manga) you'll see it happened the same with him. Ah, I forgot that happened with Guts, it was his mentor wasn't it? And I totally agree, the cliche 'raped' or 'payback for my wife's murder' is overused, and even in scenarios where it could be considered to fit in, It's just eh. But like you said, when It's used in comedy or romance it expects us to continue along with the genre as though that never happened, but then, why put it in there...It's just gut-wrenching to see good series focus on something that doesn't fit in at all. |
| What about Yuri rape like in |
Feaor said: What about Yuri rape like in WHat episode ? I watch few episodes of it and I put it on hold |
I haven't watched it, but I've heard of it and just searched it, and It's obviously a parody...but from what I've read from people's reviews of it, it isn't that funny and takes itself somewhat sternly...so It's literally just about a guy raping women, and It's supposed to be funny because of that....eh. |
thepath said: Episode 14.Feaor said: What about Yuri rape like in WHat episode ? I watch few episodes of it and I put it on hold |
| Rape is a scenario used in fiction to create a strong reaction. Murder, torture, and a lot of edgy stuff happens in anime all the time. I don't see the point of this thread. |
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Feaor said: What about Yuri rape like in It's wrong, but I feel as if It's refreshing to see someone take a risk and put this into the anime, it builds intense characterisation from the female character. It's not cliche, or lazy. The female isn't some random 'bad' woman who is just 'bad' because she's a woman, a crazy one. |
AzureDaora said: Rape is a scenario used in fiction to create a strong reaction. Murder, torture, and a lot of edgy stuff happens in anime all the time. I don't see the point of this thread. The point of this thread is to share your opinions and analysis on my original post...which you did, thanks. However, my original point included that most of the time It's spontaneous. I mean in binbougami ga, there is literally nothing edgy involving murder/torture, but then they throw in a surprise attempted rape scene admist all the 99% of comedy. And the whole thing wasn't meant to be serious, but it couldn't be interpreted any other way. |
CamzarcarMay 27, 2015 6:39 AM
| I don't have a problem per se with fiction using rape/sexual assault. Berserk's scene for example disgusted me, but I think that it fits there. Rape sadly happens in real life, so I don't think fiction should stay away from it. People are able to do absolutely disgusting things under certain circumstances (I'm currently reading a book about Nanking and uch I wish it was fiction) However I've to agree that in some shows (not limited to anime) it's just unneeded and doesn't serve any purpose (besides trying to shock the viewers). There are a lot of other ways to show that a certain character is evil scum or to make the audience sympathize with a character, but it looks like a lot of writers just use rape as an easy way out. Also perhaps it would've been nice if you had used spoiler tags for your examples. |
Dopu said: I don't have a problem per se with fiction using rape/sexual assault. Berserk's scene for example disgusted me, but I think that it fits there. Rape sadly happens in real life, so I don't think fiction should stay away from it. People are able to do absolutely disgusting things under certain circumstances (I'm currently reading a book about Nanking and uch I wish it was fiction) However I've to agree that in some shows (not limited to anime) it's just unneeded and doesn't serve any purpose (besides trying to shock the viewers). There are a lot of other ways to show that a certain character is evil scum or to make the audience sympathize with a character, but it looks like a lot of writers just use rape as an easy way out. Also perhaps it would've been nice if you had used spoiler tags for your examples. I agree with all of your post :) And sorry, this is my first time posting, so I'm not sure how to :s |
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