| Hello, and welcome to the future! Lots of things have happened since 2015, but there's something particularly interesting that I'd like to talk about. We have the capability to grow babies in laboratories now, so women don't have to give painful births anymore like our backwards ancestors, but it doesn't end there. Yeah, you heard me. You now have the capability to design your offspring as you wish! Want a 6'2 boy with blue eyes, blonde hair, and a genius brain? We can do that! But unfortunately it won't be cheap; in fact, only the richest people in the world will be able to afford it. If you have the money, you can shape your future child the same way you can create a character in a video game. What do you think about this? Would a future where rich people have the capability to design their own super babies cause a great divide in our societies? Imagine that we have poor pleb humans on the bottom of the social hierarchy, while the test tube master race people thrive on top of them and control the world. Is this a future that you would want, or is it fucked up on so many levels? Are there any advantages or disadvantages to this? What would you think if you learned that you were designed to be a superhuman, and would you be salty if you happened to be a normal human, and had to watch the super humans surpass you in every way imaginable because of their innate superiority? Discuss! |
Eremiel said: Ergo Proxy I haven't watched Ergo Proxy. : ( |
Eremiel said: Ergo Proxy did you just ruin the plot to an anime i'm currently watching? |
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| I dont want a designer test tube baby i want a cat-girl or bunny-girl. |
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| Obviously it's a step in the right direction, it's a way to ensure beauty in society. In an ideal world this would be the case of all "births" think about it, you can design people to fill the roles that they need. You don't need a genious to be a plumber, but you can still ensure that the plumber is beautiful. You also wouldn't have the problem with women getting pregnant, going on maternity leave etc. So you would have an effective, efficient and beautiful society. This kind of thechnology really is the future. And it's a great alternative to sterilizing the ugly, I can see it being the next step as a society really. |
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| idk but it's funny you said "blue eyes, blonde hair" and "master race" |
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traed said: I dont want a designer test tube baby i want a cat-girl or bunny-girl. You can design a tube cat-girl or bunny-girl if you want, too. |
| Gattaca? Thats really creepy and unnatural and will probably come back to fuck with us later in some way |
| I'm gonna miss these simple days |
   I envy your delusion; I wish I could live in it  |
| Hitler's dream |
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marriage said: Gattaca? Gattaca.  |
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Moog- said: But then wouldnt theyd still be a baby? I dont want to take care of a baby.traed said: I dont want a designer test tube baby i want a cat-girl or bunny-girl. You can design a tube cat-girl or bunny-girl if you want, too. |
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Objurgo said: marriage said: Gattaca? Gattaca. God no the human race will overheat due to those thick eyebrows |
| I like this idea. It's definitely a step into the right direction. If man are capable of creating perfect or superior human beings than why not do it? Who cares about the poor, and whether or not it's fair for them not being able to afford it. Society loves to create a distinction between the wealthy and the poor anyways. If this wasn't the case their would be no poverty in the world. |
| Babies are gross and irritating and none of them can fight worth a damn |
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Bambi_ said: I like this idea. It's definitely a step into the right direction. If man are capable of creating perfect or superior human beings than why not do it? Who cares about the poor, and whether or not it's fare for them not being able to afford it. Society loves to create a distinction between the wealthy and the poor anyways. If this wasn't the case their would be no poverty in the world. But they'll take our jobs <:( |
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Objurgo said: The competition will make normal people strive to be better.Bambi_ said: I like this idea. It's definitely a step into the right direction. If man are capable of creating perfect or superior human beings than why not do it? Who cares about the poor, and whether or not it's fare for them not being able to afford it. Society loves to create a distinction between the wealthy and the poor anyways. If this wasn't the case their would be no poverty in the world. But they'll take our jobs <:( |
Bambi_ said: Objurgo said: The competition will make normal people strive to be better.But they'll take our jobs <:( Or, if we start a pile we can prevent the future from happening. Then there won't be anyone who can take our jobs! Eremiel said: Objurgo said: Gattaca. God no the human race will overheat due to those thick eyebrows YOU DARE SIN AGAINST MUGIS' SWEET BROWS?! |
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Deserada said: Aggra-Dearheart said: Without so much as lifting a finger, babies have already taken you down, I see.Babies are gross and irritating and none of them can fight worth a damn A formidable foe indeed. I challenge any babies in this thread to immediate irl fisticuffz WHO DARES WHO DARES |
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Objurgo said: Bambi_ said: I like this idea. It's definitely a step into the right direction. If man are capable of creating perfect or superior human beings than why not do it? Who cares about the poor, and whether or not it's fare for them not being able to afford it. Society loves to create a distinction between the wealthy and the poor anyways. If this wasn't the case their would be no poverty in the world. But they'll take our jobs <:( They take our jobs, they take our women. They pee in the pool when they go swimming. They live in the house the government giv'em The Master Race. |
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| Designer babies are bad (it's a form of Eugenics) and should be banned under international law. |
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Moog- said: Hello, and welcome to the future! Lots of things have happened since 2015, but there's something particularly interesting that I'd like to talk about. We have the capability to grow babies in laboratories now, so women don't have to give painful births anymore like our backwards ancestors Links? Can't find any articles on that |
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| Let's grow them and steal their organs like they do in The Island and Never Let Me Go before it's too late! |
| It doesn't appeal to me, but whatever. I'm just wondering if lab-grown babies would suffer from some sort of discrimination. Or if non-lab grown babies will become the "lesser" race, so to speak. Regardless, when you start to pick and choose what you want your baby to look like, then you're not ready to become a parent. |
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Hoppy said: Designer babies are bad (it's a form of Eugenics) and should be banned under international law. I don't really see the problem with improving the human race, people want quality and this will give it to them. Ever since the dawn of time, man has strived for excellence, this is just another step along the way. |
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Baileyy said: It doesn't appeal to me, but whatever. I'm just wondering if lab-grown babies would suffer from some sort of discrimination. Or if non-lab grown babies will become the "lesser" race, so to speak. Regardless, when you start to pick and choose what you want your baby to look like, then you're not ready to become a parent.  but but neko girls :c |
Deserada said: id have to wait too long for her to be older if its same as any human and if its faster aging shed get too old too fast then die and id be sad ;_;traed said: Let's imagine that you have enough money to pay for someone to raise the child on your behalf. A neko-maid, even (if that is to your taste).But then wouldnt theyd still be a baby? I dont want to take care of a baby. |
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WeebSpaceCommie said: I don't really see the problem with improving the human race Lesser people are always aware that they are lesser people, and they fucking hate it They're also the majority, so everything needs to stay stuck in their quagmire for the sake of their feelings, it seems |
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WeebSpaceCommie said: Hoppy said: Designer babies are bad (it's a form of Eugenics) and should be banned under international law. I don't really see the problem with improving the human race, people want quality and this will give it to them. Ever since the dawn of time, man has strived for excellence, this is just another step along the way. There will be better ways of doing this in the future. |
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WeebSpaceCommie said: people want quality and this will give it to them ... Quality of a child? Children are not objects with differing value. Jfc. |
Aggra-Dearheart said: WeebSpaceCommie said: I don't really see the problem with improving the human race Lesser people are always aware that they are lesser people, and they fucking hate it They're also the majority, so everything needs to stay stuck in their quagmire for the sake of their feelings, it seems Exaclty, they need to come to terms with it and be willing to let society progress, besides it will take many generations for the world to get to the place it should be. And by that time the people that oppose progress will already be dead. There is no point in holding back a bright future because you don't like it, when you won't live to see it anyways. Kinkara said: It's a horrendous future, though there's still the possibility of a new French revolution (world wide scale). Why would you want that though, the french revolution was kind of a mess. |
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marriage said: Some people seem to see it that way.WeebSpaceCommie said: people want quality and this will give it to them ... Quality of a child? Children are not objects with differing value. Jfc. |
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Hoppy said: There will be better ways of doing this in the future. But why wait for some future magic technology that may or may not happen. If we focus on this now, it will probably help us develop better ways if anything. marriage said: WeebSpaceCommie said: people want quality and this will give it to them ... Quality of a child? Children are not objects with differing value. Jfc. Yes, people have quality, there are good people, bad people etc. And some traits are considered qualities. Thus Children by this logic have quality, and thus their value should be possible to measure. However as I said in an earlier post, every child doesn't need to be of the same value. If you design a plumber, you don't need the person to have a genious mind etc. |
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WeebSpaceCommie said: Aggra-Dearheart said: Lesser people are always aware that they are lesser people, and they fucking hate it They're also the majority, so everything needs to stay stuck in their quagmire for the sake of their feelings, it seems There is no point in holding back a bright future because you don't like it, when you won't live to see it anyways. Human ego and petty spite are powerful motivations best not underestimated There is nothing that people (including me) won't do for either, even if that means destroying everything else around them What chance could there really be for this species? |
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WeebSpaceCommie said: marriage said: ... Quality of a child? Children are not objects with differing value. Jfc. Yes, people have quality, there are good people, bad people etc. And some traits are considered qualities. Thus Children by this logic have quality, and thus their value should be possible to measure. However as I said in an earlier post, every child doesn't need to be of the same value. If you design a plumber, you don't need the person to have a genious mind etc. Thats a dangerous mentality to have. You shouldnt ever become a parent if all you want is to be related to someone who will eventually give you money and a sense of pride later down the road. No loving parent measures the literal quality of their child and anyone who wants to design a perfect baby with predefined everything is not fit to become a parent due to pure selfishness. If that kid ends up not being exactly what they wanted then Im sure theyll resent it since they bothered to go to a lab to pay money to create a baby. Basically babies should not be treated like customisable objects like shoes |
marriage said: I could not have said it any better myself.WeebSpaceCommie said: Yes, people have quality, there are good people, bad people etc. And some traits are considered qualities. Thus Children by this logic have quality, and thus their value should be possible to measure. However as I said in an earlier post, every child doesn't need to be of the same value. If you design a plumber, you don't need the person to have a genious mind etc. Thats a dangerous mentality to have. You shouldnt ever become a parent if all you want is to be related to someone who will eventually give you money and a sense of pride later down the road. No loving parent measures the literal quality of their child and anyone who wants to design a perfect baby with predefined everything is not fit to become a parent due to pure selfishness. If that kid ends up not being exactly what they wanted then Im sure theyll resent it since they bothered to go to a lab to pay money to create a baby. Basically babies should not be treated like customisable objects like shoes |
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marriage said: Thats a dangerous mentality to have. You shouldnt ever become a parent if all you want is to be related to someone who will eventually give you money and a sense of pride later down the road. No loving parent measures the literal quality of their child and anyone who wants to design a perfect baby with predefined everything is not fit to become a parent due to pure selfishness. If that kid ends up not being exactly what they wanted then Im sure theyll resent it since they bothered to go to a lab to pay money to create a baby. Basically babies should not be treated like customisable objects like shoes Sure not every kid would turn out perfect, at least not in the beginning, but in the end you would have technology that was able to give you exactly what you wanted. Besides, tons of people dislike the children that they decided to make themselves, going to a lab you would increase your chances of getting what you want. And besides, for the Greater Good sacrifices have to be made. If you need to sacrifice some "love" in order to improve the human race, then so be it. Love is just a trick your mind plays on you, nothing more, in essence. |
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WeebSpaceCommie said: Besides, tons of people dislike the children that they decided to make themselves, going to a lab you would increase your chances of getting what you want. And besides, for the Greater Good sacrifices have to be made. If you need to sacrifice some "love" in order to improve the human race, then so be it. Love is just a trick your mind plays on you, nothing more, in essence. This is the edgiest thing Ive ever read all day. Im sure Hitler would agree with the whole "greater good" thing. Honestly you need to get out more, go to church and hug your parents, no joke. Deserada said: marriage said: That's the thing though. Whether you want to or not, every action you make beginning with the act of choosing a partner to have a child with is part of that customization process. What one would imagine is left to chance with genetics is mostly predictable, even.Basically babies should not be treated like customisable objects like shoes Dating someone who you find attractive isnt the same as choosing features out of a menu for a baby. Liking them is the main reason, having cute kids will just be a bonus, but the majority of people who try to have children are not doing it just to show off how cute it will be. And if they are they shouldnt have kids |
Tigervu said: What if it can be used to increase diversity?It reduces genetic diversity. Let's say a deadly pathogen decides to pop up out of nowhere and it pretty much only affects this master race. Good game master race. Genetic diversity allows for evolution. Eh, lab-grown babies seem unethical. Doesn't seem natural in anyway. |
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