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Gamer6 said: dvdmpg said: That last possibility is interesting, it could be that END (or more likely Zeref) is manipulating Gray in order to affect Natsu in some way. It also goes well with the whole deal of: "I will give you more despair.". I don't know about Zeref but too early to discuss about END though. We don't even know what type of personality END has. What if he had his own motives and a good backstory? Personally I look forward to the events which lead to END battling Igneel and how kid Natsu ended up with Igneel while END was sealed. But didn't Zeref said himself that END is actually Natsu?? I'm really confused with this whole Zeref/End thing >_< |
Lucilar said: Gamer6 said: I don't know about Zeref but too early to discuss about END though. We don't even know what type of personality END has. What if he had his own motives and a good backstory? Personally I look forward to the events which lead to END battling Igneel and how kid Natsu ended up with Igneel while END was sealed. But didn't Zeref said himself that END is actually Natsu?? I'm really confused with this whole Zeref/End thing >_< He did indeed. |
| I'm probably gonna get slapped for saying this but: how Natsu promised Lucy he'll bring Gray back made me relate it to Naruto's promise to Sakura to bring Sasuke back...and see how that turned out ¬¬" |
IDontWishToBe said: This script don't sounds oddly familiar. No,not at all. I hope Natsu don't wants to call his first son Batsu. I'm hoping Lucy will be sensible enough to prevent that lol xD |
IDontWishToBe said: This script don't sounds oddly familiar. No,not at all. I hope Natsu don't wants to call his first son Batsu. Except unless you are a SERIOUS narutard convinced everything rips off your "masterpiece, it really doe snot.. The difference between Naruto and this(apart from this not being written by typewritter monkeys) is that Natsu's promise is far more sensible and fitting - he is not promising to bring back a runaway romance. He is reassuring Lucy that he will put the guild back together n o matter what and asking to trust him for now no matter how weird his actions might seem. Nardo made a childish reassurance to a deadweight character for a selfish wish. Natsu is not "reassuring" Lucy or promising something - he is asking for her trust because he knows she has problems with that after everyone left. Either way it has absolutely no similarities to Naruto and Lucy looks uncomfortable with Nasu hiding stuff from her - certainly won't help her trust issues. |
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| Okay, I am hooked. Lets see how this proceds. |
| Mmmm. I seriously hope Gray will return back FT. |
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| Oh look, Mashima ripping the King joke.. he must have really liked Nanatsu no Taizai. |
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MoeGod said: Oh look, Mashima ripping the King joke.. he must have really liked Nanatsu no Taizai. Because Nanatsu clearly invented fat men. =_= *rolls eyes* |
Darklight0303 said: MoeGod said: Oh look, Mashima ripping the King joke.. he must have really liked Nanatsu no Taizai. Because Nanatsu clearly invented fat men. =_= *rolls eyes* No it didn't. But it was one of the recent ones who used that joke, when was the last time you saw that joke in a shonen before Nanatsu? right now Mashima's just ripping ideas from One Piece, Naruto, and a shit load of other shonen. I'm not saying those are all very original but when you go a similar route to other major works that used similar ideas just recently then comparison is inevitable. At least other works are trying to use something that hasn't been used for a while. Twilight didn't invent vampire and Harry Potter didn't even wizards but every future works that has similar plot points or minute details that's similar to those two are going to be compared for sure and be called a rip off. |
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Darklight0303 said: MoeGod said: Oh look, Mashima ripping the King joke.. he must have really liked Nanatsu no Taizai. Because Nanatsu clearly invented fat men. =_= *rolls eyes* It's manga did. |
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frankykun13 said: The one who were possessed Rogue in GMG back then was future Rogue.Gray kill frosch in f.rogue's timeline?hmmm..won't it be something like he try to kill rogue before his dark side awaken and frosch interfere? Rather than possessing stuff |
| So Gray kills Frosch and thus started the whole vengeance thing by future rogue. Well now that Gray is one of the bad guys (atm) i expect a good thrashing from Natsu. And please FFS MASHIMA ! don't give us the whole TNJ. Natsu needs to beat the shit out of Gray in this Arc, possessed or not. Leaving Juvia is a crime far worse than destroying the world. |
Chierii said: CookingPriest said: You mean except a shitload of characters including Silver and IGNEEL AND FIVE OTHER FUCKING DRAGONS in previous arc? Or do they, for some reason "do not count"? Those dragons were already fucking dead. And Silver was already fucking dead too. He died with his wife. Sure. Keep creating excuses and "exceptions" to the rules. People doing shit like that always amused me. "no one dies here!!" "I mean no one out of main cast dies!!!!Simon, Ur, etc, TOTALLY do not count" "I mean no one out of main cast dies ONSCREEN! Simon, Ur, etc, TOTALLY do not count, Urtear does not count" "I mean no one out of main cast dies onscreen! Simon, Ur, etc, TOTALLY do not count, Urtear does not count, Silver does not count too because he was dead already!" "I mean no one out of main cast dies onscreen! Simon, Ur, etc, TOTALLY do not count, Urtear does not count, Silver does not count too because he was dead already! Igneel does not count an the dragons do not count because they would have died anyway!" And the excuse litst and exception list keeps growing. But hey? AS long as it lets you lot hate on this manga and pretend that no one died, right? |
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Awry said: Darklight0303 said: Because Nanatsu clearly invented fat men. =_= *rolls eyes* It's manga did. No it didn't. |
MoeGod said: Darklight0303 said: Because Nanatsu clearly invented fat men. =_= *rolls eyes* No it didn't. But it was one of the recent ones who used that joke, when was the last time you saw that joke in a shonen before Nanatsu? right now Mashima's just ripping ideas from One Piece, Naruto, and a shit load of other shonen. I'm not saying those are all very original but when you go a similar route to other major works that used similar ideas just recently then comparison is inevitable. At least other works are trying to use something that hasn't been used for a while. Twilight didn't invent vampire and Harry Potter didn't even wizards but every future works that has similar plot points or minute details that's similar to those two are going to be compared for sure and be called a rip off. Ripping ideas off? It's called INSPIRATION. Jesus fuckin christ you people are ridiculous. Also Mashima already did the Fat person joke with that Risley from Mermaid heel. So kindly fuck off with your baseless accusations |
Darklight0303Mar 24, 2015 2:51 AM
| see this is what i want to see animated right now :/. Imma start re-watching FT when they almost done with the last dark guild arc |
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| Nice Gray killing Frosch confirmed. W Wonder if they avoided that now, still Rogue didn't get warned technically that Frosch will get killed, hope it won't happen. DAT STING WTF o.O Good to have Libra around haha. Dat Nalu moment :3 |
nerfxMar 24, 2015 2:58 AM
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IDontWishToBe said: CookingPriest said: Except unless you are a SERIOUS narutard convinced everything rips off your "masterpiece, it really doe snot.. The difference between Naruto and this(apart from this not being written by typewritter monkeys) is that Natsu's promise is far more sensible and fitting - he is not promising to bring back a runaway romance. He is reassuring Lucy that he will put the guild back together n o matter what and asking to trust him for now no matter how weird his actions might seem. Nardo made a childish reassurance to a deadweight character for a selfish wish. Natsu is not "reassuring" Lucy or promising something - he is asking for her trust because he knows she has problems with that after everyone left. Either way it has absolutely no similarities to Naruto and Lucy looks uncomfortable with Nasu hiding stuff from her - certainly won't help her trust issues. No, my friend, I believe Naruto is a piece of trash manga that deserves to be forgotten and bashed. I'm terribly sorry if you make such assumptions based on such superficial little statements and write three paragraphs trying to show how Fairy Tail is different of Naruto only because I made a little joke based on similar LINES, nothing more. The problem is you're not the first to make that joke and some of those who made it before are actually serious. So while he did overreact a little it's kinda justified given the crap that came before it |
blfan said: While we wait for Fairy Tail Of the Dead to be translated, if the scanlators don't get done by 8 pm et tonight, well Crunchyroll will release it tonight at 8 pm et. So just wait. I can't wait! The ichya overload |
| There's another possibility than Frosh's death. Let's see what hints Mashima gave us: -The team that was going to take on Avatar by themselves was composed of Minerva, Rogue, and Frosh -The team that will try to take down Avatar is composed of Lucy, Natsu and Happy -Frosh's death led to the future Rogue that fell into darkness -Happy and Frosh are equally dumb and cute and like each other a lot, and we can also assimilate Carla with Lector who are both the more intelligent Exceed of the pair. All of these made me think that bad Rogue's future is not going to happen, but instead Happy might be killed by Gray which will cause Natsu to fall into darkness, awakening E.N.D. If that's so, I'll ragequit because NO ONE should kill Happy. Never. |
MoeGod said: Darklight0303 said: Because Nanatsu clearly invented fat men. =_= *rolls eyes* No it didn't. But it was one of the recent ones who used that joke, when was the last time you saw that joke in a shonen before Nanatsu? Magi(manga of course) after balbad arc.. |
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Dark_Messiah said: MoeGod said: No it didn't. But it was one of the recent ones who used that joke, when was the last time you saw that joke in a shonen before Nanatsu? Magi(manga of course) after balbad arc.. And many other series. Seriously people who go right away for the ripoff card are the worst |
| Future Rogue never wanted kill Gray..... what a bullshit. 1/5 |
| This chapter confirms my thoughts about Gray not being taken over by his powers or being evil. It doesn't matter if Ultear reversed the time or not, there was no sign of future Rogue disappearing when Gray died during GMG. Not to mention during the attack in GMG, Future Rogue made sure only his past self was to be spared. Logically If future Rogue's main goal was to become the king of the world, then he should have made sure Gray also remained unharmed because in his timeline he was still alive and without Gray there would be no evil Rogue thus his existence would completely vanish. So it brings the question, how was he going to conquer the world if his existence would've vanished once he killed everyone in GMG? lol fuck logic right? Either Mashima fucked up the timelines by mistake or what Future Rogue said was just bullshit and he didn't see who actually killed frosch. |
Z4k said: This chapter confirms my thoughts about Gray not being taken over by his powers or being evil. It doesn't matter if Ultear reversed the time or not, there was no sign of future Rogue disappearing when Gray died during GMG. Not to mention during the attack in GMG, Future Rogue made sure only his past self was to be spared. Logically If future Rogue's main goal was to become the king of the world, then he should have made sure Gray also remained unharmed because in his timeline he was still alive and without Gray there would be no evil Rogue thus his existence would completely vanish. So it brings the question, how was he going to conquer the world if his existence would've vanished once he killed everyone in GMG? lol fuck logic right? Either Mashima fucked up the timelines by mistake or what Future Rogue said was just bullshit and he didn't see who actually killed frosch. Frosche was actually still in danger of dying when the human sized dragon troops started attacking and Natsu even pointed that out to him need I remind you. If the dragons killed everyone in crocus Frosch would be among them. He was also going to corrupt normal rogue after sparing him. So the same effect would be achieved. In fact it would be killing two birds with one stone. Frosch and Gray would both die to the humanoid or the normal dragons. The timeline still fits. Plus you don't seem to understand how timelines work. Everything that happens in GMG timeline only affect GMG timeline. The events in Future Rogue's timeline still happen no matter what happens in the current timeline. Therefore Future Rogue still exists no matter what. You seem to think there's only one timeline and that if the past is changed then that future does too. However there are parallel timelines and they intersect and run paralel in the same direction sometimes in different ways but the same outcome. Future Lucy's timeline didn't cease to exist. Future Lucy simply ceased to exist IN THE CURRENT timeline. Because the gate that made it happen was destroyed. She didn't go back to some grand happy end future. She literally crossed over to the other side where everyone else was still VERY much dead. What was saved was the future of the CURRENT timeline. Those other timelines with the bad end and Future Rogue turning STILL happen! That's why no one started vanishing until the medium that brought those elements from other timelines (AKA: the Eclipse Gate) WAS DESTROYED. The only way to influence a timeline is to bring elements and knowledge from OTHER timelines into the one you wish to influence. If you don't, all the timelines flow in the exact same direction. Even now the current timeline is being influenced by Natsu however there was nothing done to stop Gray's role in killing Frosch until Natsu took Rogue's place. Time chooses the path of least resistance. I am going to laugh my ass off when my theories are proven correct. |
Darklight0303Mar 25, 2015 8:15 AM
| There are three timelines. Has everyone forgotten this:  Basically as of now:  trump54 said: so why didn't natsu think it was a good idea to tell gray about his possible future. Or Rogue? Huh he let it get to this so he could fix it all on his own. He will proably succeed but that was dumb moove Every heard of tries to alter future being causation of future? For all he knows, Natsu TELLING him that would LEAD to that happening. That is why time travel is tricky Natsu is trying to have minimal effect on everything else except Gray right now, even now. |
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CookingPriest said: There are three timelines. Has everyone forgotten this: Basically as of now: trump54 said: so why didn't natsu think it was a good idea to tell gray about his possible future. Or Rogue? Huh he let it get to this so he could fix it all on his own. He will proably succeed but that was dumb moove Every heard of tries to alter future being causation of future? For all he knows, Natsu TELLING him that would LEAD to that happening. That is why time travel is tricky Natsu is trying to have minimal effect on everything else except Gray right now, even now. That timeline is quite helpful, it seems I had forgotten a few things,myself. Thanks Aaand the chapter was great,yes.Especially Natsu. |
CookingPriest said: There are three timelines. Has everyone forgotten this: Basically as of now: trump54 said: so why didn't natsu think it was a good idea to tell gray about his possible future. Or Rogue? Huh he let it get to this so he could fix it all on his own. He will proably succeed but that was dumb moove Every heard of tries to alter future being causation of future? For all he knows, Natsu TELLING him that would LEAD to that happening. That is why time travel is tricky Natsu is trying to have minimal effect on everything else except Gray right now, even now. I see so we are still on track for the second timeline as of now thank you for the visual cues. Now the thing with natsu is he flies between wise beyond his years and painfully dumb. (not unlike goku and other shounene hero's before him) So him keeping this information to himself still feels odd to me. Not even telling the master or guildarts and getting some concil from them before decing what to do. Anyway thats past |
| NaLu moment indeed! That was a great chapter. |
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| Nice moment between Natsu and Lucy. So it was Gray who killed Frosch. So the events of tartarus happened on Future's Rogue present? didn't the dragons appeared on the day of the grand magic games and stuff? |
Silver4000 said: Nice moment between Natsu and Lucy. So it was Gray who killed Frosch. So the events of tartarus happened on Future's Rogue present? didn't the dragons appeared on the day of the grand magic games and stuff? No in Future ROgue's timelines there were no dragons on the day of the GMG. It was Acnologia that took over the world. Future Rogue himself said so. Remember why the Dragons came out. Because of Future Rogue's intervention |
Darklight0303 said: Silver4000 said: Nice moment between Natsu and Lucy. So it was Gray who killed Frosch. So the events of tartarus happened on Future's Rogue present? didn't the dragons appeared on the day of the grand magic games and stuff? No in Future ROgue's timelines there were no dragons on the day of the GMG. It was Acnologia that took over the world. Future Rogue himself said so. Remember why the Dragons came out. Because of Future Rogue's intervention Actually no. First Timeline Dragons came out because of Kingdom's plans to go into the past to stop Zeref. That timeline's Future Lucy closed the gate in Rogue's timeline, so no dragons. But cue tartaros, frosch, evil rogue and then 7 years latter acnologia has enough power to rule the world. This Future Rogue goes into past with plan to prevent the gate closing and to use the dragons as his army to wrestle the controlf or himself. Thus in third timeline we have both Future Lucy fom first timeline and F-Rogue from second |
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| Natsu's growth, the NaLu moment, the questions that keep piling up... damn. Mashima-sensei's getting better and better with FT. Thumbs up! |
| Whaaaaat???the fuuuck?Sting?!So Natsu remembered what the future Rogue told him, I had forgotten that |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Natsu always keeps him promises! so gray was the one who killed Frosch.. lets hope they stay.. and nothing bad happens the excitement is real |
| cause MAL is doing there job for once. |
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