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Mar 10, 2015 4:53 AM
#951
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Darklight0303 said:
Viktor_Otaku said:


Both are being villians for their own reasons, they do not by default choosed to be so.


Still missing the bloody point. ONE IS ACTING the part. One is BEING the part. Slaine sure as hell chose to be a villain.


No lelouch become the villian, if you commited horrible deeds. There is no excuse that "he was just acting the part".

And if there was no active threat against the Princess and that Vers was a just society, Slaine would had seen no reason to support the war.
Mar 10, 2015 4:54 AM
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Viktor_Otaku said:


Both are being villians for their own reasons, they do not by default choosed to be so.

Except Slaine's reason is not even his own.
Mar 10, 2015 4:56 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
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ANd Rolo was out of ear shot and out of sight when he was sent on the mission, they only communicated by radio and there was no way Lelouch could had controlled him.


He was also the ONLY one sent there. If Nunnaly dropped dead and Rolo was the only one there, then Lelouch would KNOW it was Rolo that did it. Rolo would not take that chance and fall out of grace of his dear Brother. Again. NOT the same risk AT ALL.


No, there where other soldiers being sent with him. Nameless though, and Nunnaly would most clearly be under guard, it would had easily been construed that she died in a crossfire.
And by now Rolo would had cared little on whether his actions would cause any rift between him and Lelouch, all he care now is that Nunnaly would most likely steal away his brother's attention and that is something he would never let slide.
Mar 10, 2015 4:56 AM
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Inaho freakin' used all the science and logic he knows to defeat Elektris, Skandia, and Ortygia.
Without him, Terrans would be long gone by now, but as of now, he seems to be suffering. (T_T)

If Lemrina shot Asseylum, the story would be different.
If Asseylum shot Slaine, the story would be different.
If Cronkine didn't magically appear, our reactions would be different.
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling.
Mar 10, 2015 4:57 AM
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Viktor_Otaku said:
Darklight0303 said:


Still missing the bloody point. ONE IS ACTING the part. One is BEING the part. Slaine sure as hell chose to be a villain.


No lelouch become the villian, if you commited horrible deeds. There is no excuse that "he was just acting the part".

And if there was no active threat against the Princess and that Vers was a just society, Slaine would had seen no reason to support the war.


He was acting the part to Nunnaly. He cared about what she had to say and it hurt him to do the things he did in that encounter.

Slaine on the other hand showed NO such conflict. He wasn't acting the part. he was being the part.

And once again the one who MADE that active threat to the princess was Sazbaum and HE SAVED HIM LIKE A BLOODY RETARD. Slaine's downfall is nothing more than a collection of mistakes by his own dim witted hands at every turn
Mar 10, 2015 4:57 AM
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swn32 said:
Viktor_Otaku said:


Both are being villians for their own reasons, they do not by default choosed to be so.

Except Slaine's reason is not even his own.


It became his own when he understood the implications of the war and the tension in Vers society, and he accepted it wholeheartedly.
Mar 10, 2015 4:59 AM
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Viktor_Otaku said:
Darklight0303 said:


He was also the ONLY one sent there. If Nunnaly dropped dead and Rolo was the only one there, then Lelouch would KNOW it was Rolo that did it. Rolo would not take that chance and fall out of grace of his dear Brother. Again. NOT the same risk AT ALL.


No, there where other soldiers being sent with him. Nameless though, and Nunnaly would most clearly be under guard, it would had easily been construed that she died in a crossfire.
And by now Rolo would had cared little on whether his actions would cause any rift between him and Lelouch, all he care now is that Nunnaly would most likely steal away his brother's attention and that is something he would never let slide.


Those other soldiers were loyal to him. They would not kill her. Again knowing that Rolo was a risk was also his greatest defense. Again if she dropped dead you can bet that Lelouch would not believe she died in a crossfire. His first suspect would be Rolo and Rolo knew that.
Mar 10, 2015 5:02 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
Viktor_Otaku said:


No lelouch become the villian, if you commited horrible deeds. There is no excuse that "he was just acting the part".

And if there was no active threat against the Princess and that Vers was a just society, Slaine would had seen no reason to support the war.


He was acting the part to Nunnaly. He cared about what she had to say and it hurt him to do the things he did in that encounter.

Slaine on the other hand showed NO such conflict. He wasn't acting the part. he was being the part.

And once again the one who MADE that active threat to the princess was Sazbaum and HE SAVED HIM LIKE A BLOODY RETARD. Slaine's downfall is nothing more than a collection of mistakes by his own dim witted hands at every turn


The threat was not only from Saazbaum alone, the societal tensions and the lack of resources were also very creditable threats. Slaine saved him because he want to enlist his aid in changing the society and thus removing the threat, Saazbaum was valuable to him in that sense, Slaine just need to tailor his plans to his own liking, after he dispose of him.

Slaine was shown to be constantly aware of his situation with his discussions with Harklight and Elderittuo, he knew what implications it would bring to him. But he did it all the same for the Princess's sake.
Mar 10, 2015 5:03 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
Viktor_Otaku said:


No, there where other soldiers being sent with him. Nameless though, and Nunnaly would most clearly be under guard, it would had easily been construed that she died in a crossfire.
And by now Rolo would had cared little on whether his actions would cause any rift between him and Lelouch, all he care now is that Nunnaly would most likely steal away his brother's attention and that is something he would never let slide.


Those other soldiers were loyal to him. They would not kill her. Again knowing that Rolo was a risk was also his greatest defense. Again if she dropped dead you can bet that Lelouch would not believe she died in a crossfire. His first suspect would be Rolo and Rolo knew that.


And you expect those soldiers to be any use against Rolo's powers. And as I have stated, Rolo would had cared less about his brother's approval. It is like watching a lunatic kill everyone close to his loved one so that he could have all the affection.

And it is so nice to for you to agree with me on some points. We are finally seeing eye to eye.
Mar 10, 2015 5:05 AM
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Viktor_Otaku said:
Darklight0303 said:


He was acting the part to Nunnaly. He cared about what she had to say and it hurt him to do the things he did in that encounter.

Slaine on the other hand showed NO such conflict. He wasn't acting the part. he was being the part.

And once again the one who MADE that active threat to the princess was Sazbaum and HE SAVED HIM LIKE A BLOODY RETARD. Slaine's downfall is nothing more than a collection of mistakes by his own dim witted hands at every turn


The threat was not only from Saazbaum alone, the societal tensions and the lack of resources were also very creditable threats. Slaine saved him because he want to enlist his aid in changing the society and thus removing the threat, Saazbaum was valuable to him in that sense, Slaine just need to tailor his plans to his own liking, after he dispose of him.

Slaine was shown to be constantly aware of his situation with his discussions with Harklight and Elderittuo, he knew what implications it would bring to him. But he did it all the same for the Princess's sake.


Slaine didn't give a rats ass about the society of Vers until the princess got shot. Which is something HE made happen when he saved Sazbaum from Inaho. Again there was no grand master plan in hsi head at that point. You can delude yourself all you want but Slaine's motivations are an abject disaster.
Mar 10, 2015 5:07 AM
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Viktor_Otaku said:
Darklight0303 said:


Those other soldiers were loyal to him. They would not kill her. Again knowing that Rolo was a risk was also his greatest defense. Again if she dropped dead you can bet that Lelouch would not believe she died in a crossfire. His first suspect would be Rolo and Rolo knew that.


And you expect those soldiers to be any use against Rolo's powers. And as I have stated, Rolo would had cared less about his brother's approval. It is like watching a lunatic kill everyone close to his loved one so that he could have all the affection.

And it is so nice to for you to agree with me on some points. We are finally seeing eye to eye.


You really think that all those soldiers dying would not incriminate Rolo even more. The only reason he killed Shirley was because there was NO WAY anyone could link her death to him.

Killing a squad and then killing Nunnaly and then saying oh no they were taken out before I could do anything to stop them would raise a lot of suspicion. You know even though I can freaking freeze their perception of time to do it. Rolo was obsessed but he was not STUPID. Nunnnaly was safe exactly because Lelouch had his eye on Rolo.
Mar 10, 2015 5:08 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
Viktor_Otaku said:


The threat was not only from Saazbaum alone, the societal tensions and the lack of resources were also very creditable threats. Slaine saved him because he want to enlist his aid in changing the society and thus removing the threat, Saazbaum was valuable to him in that sense, Slaine just need to tailor his plans to his own liking, after he dispose of him.

Slaine was shown to be constantly aware of his situation with his discussions with Harklight and Elderittuo, he knew what implications it would bring to him. But he did it all the same for the Princess's sake.


Slaine didn't give a rats ass about the society of Vers until the princess got shot. Which is something HE made happen when he saved Sazbaum from Inaho. Again there was no grand master plan in hsi head at that point. You can delude yourself all you want but Slaine's motivations are an abject disaster.


No Slaine knew of the implications of the society after his discussion with Saazbaum, but he still did not know how to achieve it until the fight. The goal was there, but not the method of achieving it. Slaine motivation were always in the Princess' favour and that of Vers as well, its just that timing and fate was not on his side.
Mar 10, 2015 5:09 AM
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Viktor_Otaku said:
Darklight0303 said:


Slaine didn't give a rats ass about the society of Vers until the princess got shot. Which is something HE made happen when he saved Sazbaum from Inaho. Again there was no grand master plan in hsi head at that point. You can delude yourself all you want but Slaine's motivations are an abject disaster.


No Slaine knew of the implications of the society after his discussion with Saazbaum, but he still did not know how to achieve it until the fight. The goal was there, but not the method of achieving it. Slaine motivation were always in the Princess' favour and that of Vers as well, its just that timing and fate was not on his side.


Timing and fate is the escapist's excuse.
Mar 10, 2015 5:10 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
Viktor_Otaku said:


And you expect those soldiers to be any use against Rolo's powers. And as I have stated, Rolo would had cared less about his brother's approval. It is like watching a lunatic kill everyone close to his loved one so that he could have all the affection.

And it is so nice to for you to agree with me on some points. We are finally seeing eye to eye.


You really think that all those soldiers dying would not incriminate Rolo even more. The only reason he killed Shirley was because there was NO WAY anyone could link her death to him.

Killing a squad and then killing Nunnaly and then saying oh no they were taken out before I could do anything to stop them. You know even though I can freaking freeze their perception of time to do it. Rolo was obsessed but he was not STUPID. Nunnnaly was safe exactly because Lelouch had his eye on Rolo.


Rolo had clearly stated (In his mind) that he was going to kill Nunnaly no matter what and he did not have to kill Nunnaly on the spot, she will have her guards and in the crossfire Rolo would had just simply lied and say that Nunnaly was killed with a stray bullet.
Sending Rolo on the mission was the worst thing Lelouch could had done in the entire series because even though he would had figured it out, his beloved sister would had been dead.
Mar 10, 2015 5:12 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
Viktor_Otaku said:


No Slaine knew of the implications of the society after his discussion with Saazbaum, but he still did not know how to achieve it until the fight. The goal was there, but not the method of achieving it. Slaine motivation were always in the Princess' favour and that of Vers as well, its just that timing and fate was not on his side.


Timing and fate is the escapist's excuse.


It is not in this case, had Slaine let Saazbaum die he would had missed his shot at trying to change Vers for the better. And it is just bad luck that the fight just so happen to take place close to the Princess.
Mar 10, 2015 6:02 AM
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G_Spark233 said:
Most of us already know that it's Cruhteo's son


Damn, I really missed him ever since he's gone early. IF he's still alive, he would've tear Saaz/Slaine apart! But too bad he's dead too.

swn32 said:
People don't get to have last words when they are inside an exploding robot. You know, cause they are dead. Dead people don't talk. Shocking, I know.


Well, is it just me or everything that I seen was way too anticlimatic? I guess someone doesn't even know what exactly means....
Mar 10, 2015 6:05 AM
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Savethebestforu said:
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...Maybe in the end the mods will simply ban all users, who are active here. Cause no sane humans would survive here anyway.

Thanks, guys! This shitbath is great.


That would be the most poetic ending possible to these threads. I bet Tachii already has a list of users saved on his desktop and is waiting for A/Z to be over so he can bring down the banhammer on people like Darklight, OfficialMikoSM, me, Darklight, Dragon_Slayer_X, deadoptimist, Darklight, ANGRY2011, Darklight, swn32, Darklight, Viktor_Otaku, Darklight, and Inugirlz (plus Darklight). Oh yeah and bring that KamiAlice guy down with us too.

Seujair is waiting for us down under, guys.


That event will be known on MAL as The Heathens' Fall.

Lately we'll have to return on landing castles (watch for mine - it will be the one with blackjack and man-hookers).

Cause let the shitposting be done though the subforum falls!
Mar 10, 2015 6:09 AM
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deadoptimist said:
Savethebestforu said:


That would be the most poetic ending possible to these threads. I bet Tachii already has a list of users saved on his desktop and is waiting for A/Z to be over so he can bring down the banhammer on people like Darklight, OfficialMikoSM, me, Darklight, Dragon_Slayer_X, deadoptimist, Darklight, ANGRY2011, Darklight, swn32, Darklight, Viktor_Otaku, Darklight, and Inugirlz (plus Darklight). Oh yeah and bring that KamiAlice guy down with us too.

Seujair is waiting for us down under, guys.


That event will be known on MAL as The Heathens' Fall.

Lately we'll have to return on landing castles (watch for mine - it will be the one with blackjack and man-hookers).

Cause let the shitposting be done though the subforum falls!


Hahaha. This place is one of the worst I have seen with the shitposting each week. Not that I mind.

There are too many shit posts to really go through here...

Oh well it does keep this series more entertaining.


JeffreyZin said:
G_Spark233 said:
Most of us already know that it's Cruhteo's son


Damn, I really missed him ever since he's gone early. IF he's still alive, he would've tear Saaz/Slaine apart! But too bad he's dead too.


tbh I can barely remember anything about that guy anymore. Although I do remember he was loyal to the princess (I think). So chances are his son will be the same way.
Mar 10, 2015 6:12 AM
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Let's take a break from overnestedquoted posts (seriously, use spoiler or stop quting whole comment) and let's laugh on current rank.
Mar 10, 2015 6:12 AM
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Hahaha. This place is one of the worst I have seen with the shitposting each week. Not that I mind.

There are too many shit posts to really go through here...

Oh well it does keep this series more entertaining.


No other reason to watch it by now, really.

But the appalling quoting is appalling. HEAR ME, GUYS! Please, start editing, me head hurts from seeing these abominations of posts.

bastek66 said:
Let's take a break from overnestedquoted posts (seriously, use spoiler or stop quting whole comment) and let's laugh on current rank.


Wow, we may not get season 3 after all. If this is because of fujos, as you said, they are seriously pissed.
Not that I don't agree with both the evaluation and the lack of fujo fuel. I suddenly wanna more Harklight and they don't deliver.
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Mar 10, 2015 6:14 AM
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Viktor_Otaku said:
swn32 said:

Except Slaine's reason is not even his own.


It became his own when he understood the implications of the war and the tension in Vers society, and he accepted it wholeheartedly.

That doesn't make it his own. It's a borrowed idea. You can't even prove that he isn't just brainwashed.
Mar 10, 2015 6:15 AM
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Darklight and swn still refusing to see anything beyond their narrow viewpoint I see.

Slaine's entire character arc is of him realizing that Saazbum, despite his desire to kill the princess, is ENTIRELY in the right considering the state of the Vers empire and is CENTRAL to him because he has directly experienced the discrimination of the empire because of his Terran status. When Saazbum showed the powerpoint/video to him of orlane and explained to him exactly what he planned to do, Slaine started his character story of moving away from being the Princess' dog. There is real character conflict within him as he now has to struggle between being loyal to the Princess and reforming the Vers Empire.

Furthermore, he was completely isolated within the Vers Empire after his father died. His only friend and person who cared for him in the Vers Empire was Asshime and when she left him, he was completely alone. In the midst of this, Saazbum comes in and treats him extremely fairly, cares for him, and even provides a real motivation to his life by showing a possible future for Slaine.

Thus, it's no surprise at all that Slaine rescued Saaz because at that point, Saaz was the ONLY person in his life who cared for him and treated him well. Yes, he knows that Saaz wants to kill the princess, but the princess wasn't with him through his trials and hardly payed attention to him anyway. If he didn't save Saaz, he would be throwing away the only person in his life who cared for him and the only one who had helped him.

It's only when Saaz shoots the princess that the conflict rears its head fully in Slaine again and thus he mentally breaks down completely in the finale.

In the 19 months between S1 and S2, he grows up and learns more about the world and realizes that the Vers Empire is truly rotten which is shown by the clear discrimination that persists even though he has Tharsiss and the approval of the most powerful count.

Yet darklight and swn completely ignore any of this complexity and simply cover their ears and yell that "SLAINE IS LITERALLY HITLER+STALIN+MAO+POL POT" because he opposes their oh so perfect INAHOJESUS and shows a clear understanding of the world he lives in compared to the fairy tale reality of the princess.

What the fuck was he going to do to stop the war when Asshime told him to shut down the war? All the soldiers he had commanded, all the sacrifices he had made, and the clear decision by the Vers soldiers who had overcome their intial discrimination to salute him and accept a Terran as a viable count thrown to the wind? Fuck no. That was real progress shown by the Vers Empire, much more than Inaho or the princess had ever accomplished. He managed to make racist soldiers and counts salute him and acknowledge that Terrans could have a place in Vers society.

Finally, anyone who accuses Slaine of being a loon are out of their godamn minds. Sure, a lowly Terran seen as SUBHUMAN by the Vers society rises to become the most powerful count with the devotion of many (but not all) the Knights who hated earth for 15 years is "JUST A LOON PEOPLE! HE DOESN"T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING AND IS AN IDIOT!!!!"

Fuck off.
Mar 10, 2015 6:17 AM
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[quote=bastek66]Let's take a break from overnestedquoted posts (seriously, use spoiler or stop quting whole comment) and let's laugh on current rank.

deadoptimist said:
Wow, we may not get season 3 after all. If this is because of fujos, as you said, they are seriously pissed.
Not that I don't agree with both the evaluation and the lack of fujo fuel. I suddenly wanna more Harklight and they don't deliver.


We do not need a season 3! Even the shit posting will become boring by then
Mar 10, 2015 6:18 AM
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G_Spark233 said:
deadoptimist said:
Wow, we may not get season 3 after all. If this is because of fujos, as you said, they are seriously pissed.
Not that I don't agree with both the evaluation and the lack of fujo fuel. I suddenly wanna more Harklight and they don't deliver.


We do not need a season 3! Even the shit posting will become boring by then


It's not that I don't agree, but tell me, where on MAL will I be able to shitpost so fully? D:
Mar 10, 2015 6:18 AM
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Well, is it just me or everything that I seen was way too anticlimatic? I guess someone doesn't even know what exactly means....

Basically a pointless criticism. Into the trash it goes.
Mar 10, 2015 6:18 AM
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Such a beautiful quote tower....I'm mesmerized by its unique and complex structure.......

Anyway....nice twist, I'm curious what will happen to Slaine now, and the two princesses, I bet one of them would die, but hopefully that will not happen



(っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥
Mar 10, 2015 6:19 AM
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deadoptimist said:
G_Spark233 said:
Wow, we may not get season 3 after all. If this is because of fujos, as you said, they are seriously pissed.
Not that I don't agree with both the evaluation and the lack of fujo fuel. I suddenly wanna more Harklight and they don't deliver.


We do not need a season 3! Even the shit posting will become boring by then


It's not that I don't agree, but tell me, where on MAL will I be able to shitpost so fully? D:[/quote]


Whatever anime next season that will create enough of a shit storm. As to what that will be I have no idea yet.
Mar 10, 2015 6:20 AM
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bastek66 said:
Let's take a break from overnestedquoted posts (seriously, use spoiler or stop quting whole comment) and let's laugh on current rank.

swn32 said:
So this is what happens when everybody's favorite fukboy gets cucked.


Almost looks like the graph is getting eroded by slainefag tears.
Mar 10, 2015 6:22 AM
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G_Spark233 said:
deadoptimist said:
It's not that I don't agree, but tell me, where on MAL will I be able to shitpost so fully? D:



Whatever anime next season that will create enough of a shit storm. As to what that will be I have no idea yet.


It's not that easy to find sycj a perfect object!

ANGRY2011 said:
Savethebestforu said:


That would be the most poetic ending possible to these threads. I bet Tachii already has a list of users saved on his desktop and is waiting for A/Z to be over so he can bring down the banhammer on people like Darklight, OfficialMikoSM, me, Darklight, Dragon_Slayer_X, deadoptimist, Darklight, ANGRY2011, Darklight, swn32, Darklight, Viktor_Otaku, Darklight, and Inugirlz (plus Darklight). Oh yeah and bring that KamiAlice guy down with us too.

Seujair is waiting for us down under, guys.


seujair AND his alts. We're going to be fighting a tough battle down there.


Damn, that would be hard - he has a lot of them and can't be affected by our posts due to language barrier. He will be basically as OP as Inaho.
Mar 10, 2015 6:27 AM
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ANGRY2011 said:
Savethebestforu said:


That would be the most poetic ending possible to these threads. I bet Tachii already has a list of users saved on his desktop and is waiting for A/Z to be over so he can bring down the banhammer on people like Darklight, OfficialMikoSM, me, Darklight, Dragon_Slayer_X, deadoptimist, Darklight, ANGRY2011, Darklight, swn32, Darklight, Viktor_Otaku, Darklight, and Inugirlz (plus Darklight). Oh yeah and bring that KamiAlice guy down with us too.

Seujair is waiting for us down under, guys.


seujair AND his alts. We're going to be fighting a tough battle down there.


Damn, that would be hard - he has a lot of them and can't be affected by our posts due to language barrier. He will be basically as OP as Inaho.[/quote]

OP as Inaho? Wow now that's saying something!
Mar 10, 2015 6:34 AM
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I'm still thinking that Cruhteo's son will be the one who will rescue Asseylum from the evil clutches of Suzaku 2.0
Mar 10, 2015 6:36 AM
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G_Spark233 said:
I'm still thinking that Cruhteo's son will be the one who will rescue Asseylum from the evil clutches of Suzaku 2.0


Very possible. The previews and descriptions hint that although Slaine is the defacto ruler of the knights, there is still a split between Slaine loyalists and Imperial loyalists and Cruhteo JR. will head the Imperial faction.

Bad writing to introduce a new faction with 3 episodes left if the previews are interpreted correctly but isn't that what we've come to expect?
Mar 10, 2015 6:37 AM
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Icezera said:

Bad writing to introduce a new faction with 3 episodes left if the previews are interpreted correctly but isn't that what we've come to expect?

Obviously. I guess that means these next few episodes may be getting rushed.
Mar 10, 2015 6:39 AM
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Or the rumors of a 3rd cour are true but the sales would have to do a 180 to save that idea.
Mar 10, 2015 6:43 AM
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G_Spark233 said:
I'm still thinking that Cruhteo's son will be the one who will rescue Asseylum from the evil clutches of Suzaku 2.0


Or Mazuurek. Or them together.
Mar 10, 2015 6:45 AM
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deadoptimist said:
G_Spark233 said:
I'm still thinking that Cruhteo's son will be the one who will rescue Asseylum from the evil clutches of Suzaku 2.0


Or Mazuurek. Or them together.


Or Inaho with his OPness
Mar 10, 2015 6:51 AM
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G_Spark233 said:
I'm still thinking that Cruhteo's son will be the one who will rescue Asseylum from the evil clutches of Suzaku 2.0

More like Bizon 2.0
Mar 10, 2015 6:54 AM
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G_Spark233 said:
deadoptimist said:


Or Mazuurek. Or them together.


Or Inaho with his OPness


Inaho will everything, there is no doubt.
Mar 10, 2015 6:54 AM
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swn32 said:
G_Spark233 said:
I'm still thinking that Cruhteo's son will be the one who will rescue Asseylum from the evil clutches of Suzaku 2.0

More like Bizon 2.0
never seen that series so I can't really make the comparison.
Mar 10, 2015 6:56 AM
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deadoptimist said:
G_Spark233 said:


Or Inaho with his OPness


Inaho will everything, there is no doubt.
While everyone else will be pretty useless.
Mar 10, 2015 7:02 AM
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Darklight0303 said:




Sorry for continuing to shit post, but this has never been more true than right now. Please, guys. If you are going to engage in slapfights, edit your quotes.
Mar 10, 2015 7:12 AM
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Icezera said:
The previews and descriptions hint that although Slaine is the defacto ruler of the knights, there is still a split between Slaine loyalists and Imperial loyalists and Cruhteo JR. will head the Imperial faction.

Bad writing to introduce a new faction with 3 episodes left if the previews are interpreted correctly but isn't that what we've come to expect?


You really have to wonder how they are going to write Slaine's downfall. It will be a clusterfuck no doubt, but I am interested to see the outcome of his reign. I'm guessing there is something he is still hiding in his plan. He seems so confident now about everything whereas in the episodes before Asseylum awoke he was still hesitant about his plan. Inb4 a Zero Requiem rip-off.

Will he be the only one to crumble? Or will the entire Vers political system be abolished by Asseylum? But if that's the case, what would the 2 princesses do in the "new system"? You really have to wonder why nobody has just euthanized the King yet. Does anyone even remember he exists?
Mar 10, 2015 7:35 AM
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swn32 said:
bastek66 said:
Let's take a break from overnestedquoted posts (seriously, use spoiler or stop quting whole comment) and let's laugh on current rank.

swn32 said:
So this is what happens when everybody's favorite fukboy gets cucked.


Almost looks like the graph is getting eroded by slainefag tears.


Looks more like everyone is just plain disappointed by the how the whole series turned out to be.
swn32 said:
Viktor_Otaku said:


It became his own when he understood the implications of the war and the tension in Vers society, and he accepted it wholeheartedly.

That doesn't make it his own. It's a borrowed idea. You can't even prove that he isn't just brainwashed.


Well Lelouch just borrowed his father's idea of peace as well, he just did it in another way, previously he was just fixed on the idea of bringing down Britannia not world peace. Whether a reason is original does not make it anyless important.

And Slaine was not plugged into a brainwashing machine not is he, you have to bring me evidence that he was brainwashed if you are going to claim such athing.
Mar 10, 2015 7:38 AM
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Savethebestforu said:
Icezera said:
The previews and descriptions hint that although Slaine is the defacto ruler of the knights, there is still a split between Slaine loyalists and Imperial loyalists and Cruhteo JR. will head the Imperial faction.

Bad writing to introduce a new faction with 3 episodes left if the previews are interpreted correctly but isn't that what we've come to expect?


You really have to wonder how they are going to write Slaine's downfall. It will be a clusterfuck no doubt, but I am interested to see the outcome of his reign. I'm guessing there is something he is still hiding in his plan. He seems so confident now about everything whereas in the episodes before Asseylum awoke he was still hesitant about his plan. Inb4 a Zero Requiem rip-off.

Will he be the only one to crumble? Or will the entire Vers political system be abolished by Asseylum? But if that's the case, what would the 2 princesses do in the "new system"? You really have to wonder why nobody has just euthanized the King yet. Does anyone even remember he exists?


The king pretty much is just a rubber stamp at this point, he is so far removed from the conflict he would not even know if Vers just decided to obliterate all life on earth. He is pretty much a puppet ruler at this point, power now rest in Slaine's hand.

And I am pretty sure that if Slaine dies, his ideas will most likely take root. To actually say that nothing will change afterwards is just returning everything back to square one.

And yes the writers are basically wasting precious time trying to squeeze even more pointless characters rather than trying to address the massive issues that they have with the current ones. The loyalist faction could had been headed by Mazuurek just fine.
Mar 10, 2015 7:41 AM
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bastek66 said:
Let's take a break from overnestedquoted posts (seriously, use spoiler or stop quting whole comment) and let's laugh on current rank.


Woah that's a huge ass drop.
Mar 10, 2015 7:42 AM
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Darklight and swn still refusing to see anything beyond their narrow viewpoint I see.

Slaine's entire character arc is of him realizing that Saazbum, despite his desire to kill the princess, is ENTIRELY in the right considering the state of the Vers empire and is CENTRAL to him because he has directly experienced the discrimination of the empire because of his Terran status. When Saazbum showed the powerpoint/video to him of orlane and explained to him exactly what he planned to do, Slaine started his character story of moving away from being the Princess' dog. There is real character conflict within him as he now has to struggle between being loyal to the Princess and reforming the Vers Empire.

Furthermore, he was completely isolated within the Vers Empire after his father died. His only friend and person who cared for him in the Vers Empire was Asshime and when she left him, he was completely alone. In the midst of this, Saazbum comes in and treats him extremely fairly, cares for him, and even provides a real motivation to his life by showing a possible future for Slaine.

Thus, it's no surprise at all that Slaine rescued Saaz because at that point, Saaz was the ONLY person in his life who cared for him and treated him well. Yes, he knows that Saaz wants to kill the princess, but the princess wasn't with him through his trials and hardly payed attention to him anyway. If he didn't save Saaz, he would be throwing away the only person in his life who cared for him and the only one who had helped him.

It's only when Saaz shoots the princess that the conflict rears its head fully in Slaine again and thus he mentally breaks down completely in the finale.

In the 19 months between S1 and S2, he grows up and learns more about the world and realizes that the Vers Empire is truly rotten which is shown by the clear discrimination that persists even though he has Tharsiss and the approval of the most powerful count.

Yet darklight and swn completely ignore any of this complexity and simply cover their ears and yell that "SLAINE IS LITERALLY HITLER+STALIN+MAO+POL POT" because he opposes their oh so perfect INAHOJESUS and shows a clear understanding of the world he lives in compared to the fairy tale reality of the princess.

What the fuck was he going to do to stop the war when Asshime told him to shut down the war? All the soldiers he had commanded, all the sacrifices he had made, and the clear decision by the Vers soldiers who had overcome their intial discrimination to salute him and accept a Terran as a viable count thrown to the wind? Fuck no. That was real progress shown by the Vers Empire, much more than Inaho or the princess had ever accomplished. He managed to make racist soldiers and counts salute him and acknowledge that Terrans could have a place in Vers society.

Finally, anyone who accuses Slaine of being a loon are out of their godamn minds. Sure, a lowly Terran seen as SUBHUMAN by the Vers society rises to become the most powerful count with the devotion of many (but not all) the Knights who hated earth for 15 years is "JUST A LOON PEOPLE! HE DOESN"T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING AND IS AN IDIOT!!!!"

Fuck off.


Lets be honest here, I have pretty much give up hope that a real life character that we can relate too and is one who suffers through trials and tribulations and yet still grow will never be popular again. Right now the hype is all seeing, all knowing MCs who can do everything flawlessly as if they had the script of the story right on their laps.
Mar 10, 2015 7:44 AM
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Z4k said:
bastek66 said:
Let's take a break from overnestedquoted posts (seriously, use spoiler or stop quting whole comment) and let's laugh on current rank.


Woah that's a huge ass drop.


TBH I am suprise that it actually took that long, everything when downhill after the end of the first season. There really wasn;t everything worth salvaging at that point, not Inaho, not Slaine nor the warring actions.
Mar 10, 2015 7:47 AM
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Sorry for continuing to shit post, but this has never been more true than right now. Please, guys. If you are going to engage in slapfights, edit your quotes.


In a word on my stance, I was trying really hard to not turn it into a slapfight like the previous ones, but Darklight seems more interested in peppering the comments with captions and condescending insults while I gave him my honest opinions on the subject.

But yeah I admit, the whole argument was basically going around in circles and we both never made any point.
Mar 10, 2015 7:52 AM
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I wouldn't give up hope yet. True there are a ton of those characters popular these days (Kirito from SAO, Tatsuya from Mahouka etc) but there's usually one series that works well every season which harkens back to the infamous Sturgeon's law that 90% is shit and 10% is great.

Slaine himself is very interesting but the writers constantly railroad random shit that he has to deal with so it dilutes his actual character. TBH I think Saazbum was a fantastic character where he transforms from traditional mustace twirling big bad to sympathetic villain. And if Marito could have escaped the aura of INAHOJESUS, he would have been amazing too.
Mar 10, 2015 7:53 AM
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G_Spark233 said:
I'm still thinking that Cruhteo's son will be the one who will rescue Asseylum from the evil clutches of Suzaku 2.0


That would be unlikely, as the series is turning into a "save the damsel in distress" scenario (TBH Slaine really did try and save Asseylum from her own naivety). The Inaho fans will settle for nothing more than Inaho charging in head first and then gallantly lifting the princess to safety and then live happily ever after, even though they just had unleashed a clusterfck of problems in their wake.
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