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So yeah... I'm still trying to figure out what is actually going on. So the "cover story" here is that alien bears came crashing into earth from another planet and starting eating the humans, because of this the humans erected a wall called the "wall of extinction" and bears are not supposed to be able to get past this wall to eat humans. So some interesting things I noticed is that there are no male humans so far and the act of "eating" seems to be very sexualized. My own thinking plus some of the ideas that I've seen floating around MAL and other anime sites leads me to believe.

human=female, bear=male, eating=sex, yuri kuma (lesbian bears)= an anomaly. One of the girls refers to them as "the new ones". extinction court= representation of discrimination against lesbians. Need for approval from general public (thus yuri approved). invisible storm=lesbians among humans, but are not willing to express their sexuality(eat). Some people have also hypothesized that the extinction court trio are hybrids between bears and humans (thus their androgenous char designs) that allow yuri kuma to switch between bear form and human form. They are also the only "male" characters in the show. Also the pendant/ribbon that Ginko is wearing is the same one that Kureha's mom is wearing in the photo that is briefly shown. So I'm sure thats going to come up at some point. Also during the extinction court the trio asks the yuri kuma if they want become invisible (human but not able to express their sexuality) or eat humans. So that also enforces my idea of what the "invisible storm" is.

I'm also thinking that Ginko and Lulu could have once been human which would explain how they were able to get over the wall of extinction. They have bear forms, because they chose to express their sexuality and not be "invisible". This could also mean that Ginko and Kureha could be related cause of the pendant/ribbon or maybe Ginko ate Kureha's mom. Also I'm guessing the reason why Kureha wasn't literally eaten and Sumika was is because the yurikuma didn't get "yuri approval" from the court of extinction, but decided to eat her anyway. These are all just theories though, honestly only Ikuhara really know wth is going on. Hopefully you guys have some interesting observations as well.
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Well looks like there are a lot more bears than I originally thought. One thing confuses me though. Mitsuko says she ate Sumika, but then how was she able to see presumably ginko and lulu eating Sumika in the last episode? Did she drive them off and eat Sumika by herself or was it actually Konomi and her eating Sumika and her POV was made up? idk it just seems kind of confusing and could be a plot hole or oversight. Also find of obvious at this point but everyone with yuri in their name is turning out to be bears so I guess we can expect to see the teacher "reveal" herself soon. Not sure if my normal girls turning into yuri bears theory still holds up, but the original planet being all female humans still hasn't been disproved. I'm still thinking invisible storm storm is having sexual feelings for other humans, but not being able to express them.

Also kind of confused by the extinction trio court this episode. I expected Konomi to be on trial this time around, but it was Ginko and Lulu again (even though they weren't even close to Kureha iirc). Life sexy seems really biased towards Life Beauty's side and after Kureha was eaten this time around nothing happened to her. Last episode she ended up on a hospital bed, but this time the scene just went on like nothing happened. Does this mean the trial scenes are all in Kureha's head? Not really sure how reproduction works in this world and ofcourse theres the construction of the wall and considering the age of the teacher and the status of Mitsuko (student prez) how long these 2 have been hiding among humans. Then again Kureha appears to be living alone is allowed to own and use a gun (Mitsuko as well) and just let 2 random ppl into her house and 1 of them use her shower, so maybe trying to apply real-world logic isn't the best idea lol.
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I don't really have much to add. I think it really helped some of the people who didn't realize what was really going on to make things more apparent with the exclusion ceremony.

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Dam, didn't know Lulu was such a narcissist. My take on the fairytale flashback is that it highlights the various forms of love. There is the love from the kingdom, which she eventually loses when her brother is born. The love the kingdom has for her is very shallow though, because it is condition and not mutual (Lulu doesn't reciprocate their love). The love her little brother gives her is unconditional love between family which is represented by the honey. Again she does not reciprocate her brother's love though and this is most likely due to her huge ego caused by all of the conditional one-sided love she received from the kingdom symbolized as the bee.

After her little brother dies and she again receives the love of the kingdom and her ego grows so much that she can no longer reciprocate any kind of love. When the judgemen propose to her they offer her various forms of love. Sexy offers raw sexuality or eros, Cool offers financial stability and Cute offers loyalty and each time her ego doesn't enable her to reciprocate their love. After she goes through the hallucination of her little brother and Ginko arriving she realizes that she can love others instead of just receiving love. At the end when the Judgemen are asking her if she wants the kisses or love I think what they are really asking is whether she going to give up the love of the kingdom in order to pursue a romance or perhaps platonic relationship with Ginko.

Or maybe I'm just over-thinking, anyway hopefully we get to see some flashbacks of how Kureha's mother fits into all of this.
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Wha... What happened to all my comments from past weeks? D: D: Why does this keep happening ffs

I mean, not that I have anything to add on top of what you guys said lol, but still xD;;
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That is weird Sandi. The comment bandit has you on his radar I suppose :P

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This is ep 4 btw.


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[spoiler]It was about time the coat-less girl did something in this show. Her importance has been hinted at since the start of the show. Looks like the yuri bears have finally met their match. Yeah probably not, I doubt Ginko is dead or even really injured. She'll likely be eaten or perhaps convinced to join their side. The flashback to when I imagine the bears still landed was interesting. I wonder how they had the time to build a kingdom lol. Yeah I know it's not supposed to make any sense lol. Still waiting on the reveal for the teacher.

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I'm kinda just rooting for Kaoru at this point. Most of the characters in the show just don't really appeal to me. I was never really worried for Ginko, her heavy plot armoring is pretty obvious. Nice visuals as usual though.

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Agreed, Kaoru was probably killed by the teacher. Too bad she had to go, one of the better characters in this show. Some more backstory on Ginko and the war. Lone Wolfsbane got a chuckle out of me since I'm currently reading Lone wolf and cub. Also sometimes I zone out during this show, did they ever give an explanation for why there isn't any male humans? I thought it was weird that Sumika likens Kureha to an "old man" in episode 1, but how would they know what an old man is like if there are no human men? Not like this show is lacking in inconsistencies or made much logical sense from the start anyway.

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Again, it's an allegorical story, so that's kind of beside the point. It's like asking where does the egg come from in Angel's Egg.
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No male humans red herring. Yuriko backstory. So bears. Much yuri. Such trial. Wow.

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Is it a tale of how #basicbitches need to stop hatin?


Haha, awesome!! I really like that one. Made me :)

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...what is the main allegory supposed to be here?


As it isn't over yet, I wouldn't put it passed Ikuhara to mix in some additional mindfuckery before it is all said and done. However, my take on the main theme is not hiding one's true self. Particularly, for the sake of the general public/masses/social norms/etc. That, with an emphasis on homosexuality (yuri) and feelings towards another regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. Love is love. You don't choose to love, but you can choose to deny that love and hide your true self. Which ties into Ikuhara's philosophies on fate/destiny/etc.

Something along those lines anyway :P

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No Yuri Kuma episode this week it seems :'(
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Im confused. Why is Ginko saying she ate Sumika if it was shown to actually be Mitsuko that ate Sumika? Was it that Mitsuko attacked her first and began eating her and then Lulu and Ginko took over? The show on a whole is already confusing and all these red herrings and misinformation doesn't help at all. Anyway Im thinking the new girl in charge of the Exclusion Ceremony is also a bear since the bird design didn't cover her, but that might be me looking too deeply. I also felt like the fanservice this ep was excessive. I guess you could argue that it was "part of the plot", but really when it's this obvious and in your face I don't really feel like that's a valid argument.

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I agree the show would have benefited greatly from a greater episode count. I never really felt like I got the time to get familiar and attached the characters. I remember hating Ringo from Penguindrum when she was first introduced, but by the end of the series she was my favorite character. I never really bought sibling relationship of Mirun and Lulu after she treated him so callously in order to maintain her own ego and status. Ginko and Kureha's relationship at the end of the day is just another childhhood friend to romance relationship and the lesbian angle doesn't really add anything for me. The misdirection and red herring were a negative for me though. I felt like it just lead to a lot of unnecessary thinking that only leads to dead ends. OST also felt like a downgrade from both Utena and Penguindrum. Overall this is by far my least favorite Ikuhara work. Luckily the visuals and cinematography pull through to help this show pull up above average and remain somewhat entertaining. 6/10 Also dat ~shabadadu
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