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Jan 24, 2015 10:52 AM
#51
Slaine got his revenge, clever little bastard. How did Saazbaum not expect vengeance when he made him his "son"? |
Oh god who are you people? |
Jan 24, 2015 10:55 AM
#52
TheIMF said: The Inaho fanboys are really fucking obnoxious. Slaine continues to prove himself to be much more capable and intelligent than they are willing to admit because he capped Inaho - which was justified considering Inaho declared Slaine his enemy in episode 7 when he shot him down after Slaine saved his ass and that of all the other Terrans. Saazbaum's days were numbered the moment he pulled the trigger on Asseylum. Slaine was always her man and was never going to betray her like that. The princess will never love him for all the shit he's done. So no Slaine is still a loser who doesn't see what he's doing wrong |
Jan 24, 2015 10:56 AM
#53
blazehero said: Harklight was working with Slaine all along. Looks like Slaine has a plan to turn the Vers empire into one that is fair to all. He's practically the anti-hero/ antagonist now since Saucy buns is gone. Inaho is really putting in work these days. That fight was close however. An empire that is fair to all except Earthlings who are going to get stomped with fancy super tech that can only be debunked by science and not average military know how. |
Jan 24, 2015 10:57 AM
#54
CookingPriest said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. This war is already destroying what Princess wants. Everything he did goes against her wishes, including that last monologue. Saaz also had great endgame goals - did not excuse HOW he achieved them. And the HOW of Slaine is something Princess would hate him forever for. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean that he can do something interesting from now. Maybe he knows that the princess not gonna forgive him. Maybe he doesn't want forgiveness. Thats why I think he is a kind of anti hero. He saved her Life. If she had came back to mars in other ways, the knights would have killed her. |
Jan 24, 2015 10:58 AM
#55
julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. This war is already destroying what Princess wants. Everything he did goes against her wishes, including that last monologue. Saaz also had great endgame goals - did not excuse HOW he achieved them. And the HOW of Slaine is something Princess would hate him forever for. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean that he can do something interesting from now. Maybe he knows that the princess not gonna forgive him. Maybe he doesn't want forgiveness. Thats why I think he is a kind of anti hero. All he did saved her Life. If she had came back to mars in other ways, the knights would have killed her. You're missing the point. He is using her name and her image to justify the war. Just as he's using Sazbaum's after this episode. Princess wants Peace even at the cost of her own life. Everything Slaine has done and will continue to do, tramples all over that. |
Jan 24, 2015 10:59 AM
#56
julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. what good can the peace of Mars, if it is creating more hatred between the Terrans, you forget that Mars lacks the resources, and without the resources of the earth, Mars did not survive for long. to continue the war, the peace agreement between the earth and mars went into space. Now only remains the only option for abar war is one of the sides come out the winner. |
Jan 24, 2015 10:59 AM
#57
Darklight0303 said: The princess will never love him for all the shit he's done. So no Slaine is still a loser who doesn't see what he's doing wrong I remember you. You had a massive hard on for Slaine last season as well. Pray tell what terrible things Slaine has done. Also, for a loser, Slaine keeps getting ahead. Perhaps you don't know what that word actually means? |
Jan 24, 2015 11:00 AM
#58
Darklight0303 said: blazehero said: Harklight was working with Slaine all along. Looks like Slaine has a plan to turn the Vers empire into one that is fair to all. He's practically the anti-hero/ antagonist now since Saucy buns is gone. Inaho is really putting in work these days. That fight was close however. An empire that is fair to all except Earthlings who are going to get stomped with fancy super tech that can only be debunked by science and not average military know how. Hey, communism was built on that logic and that worked out allri....oh right, it did not work out at all and resulted in gazillion of war crimes. Yep, Slaine's screwed. Except unlike Hitler Sazbaum, he is now Stalin. julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. This war is already destroying what Princess wants. Everything he did goes against her wishes, including that last monologue. Saaz also had great endgame goals - did not excuse HOW he achieved them. And the HOW of Slaine is something Princess would hate him forever for. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean that he can do something interesting from now. Maybe he knows that the princess not gonna forgive him. Maybe he doesn't want forgiveness. Thats why I think he is a kind of anti hero. He saved her Life. If she had came back to mars in other ways, the knights would have killed her. Nopel. he seems to be very clearly delusional that Princess will approve of what he does and smile to him. All Princess had to do was contact her father after Sazzy's death. The end of the war. Now it is no longer possible thanks to Slaine. For Princess, WAR was NEVER the correct option , no matter the goal. And a "peace" accomplished via genocide and bloodshed is worthless for her. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:00 AM
#59
This episode made me LOL. It wasn't great but not too bad either. I actually feel bad that Saazbaum died, because he was one of the more 'complex' characters (as far as that can be in those series). Slaine further cornered himself, there's no way in hell he can get out of this war alive. There will be someone who finds out what happened either way. |
Knight of the Obsidian Order Nth incarnation of NRVNQSR Animatic (Anime-fanatic) |
Jan 24, 2015 11:01 AM
#60
TheIMF said: The Inaho fanboys are really fucking obnoxious. Slaine continues to prove himself to be much more capable and intelligent than they are willing to admit because he capped Inaho - which was justified considering Inaho declared Slaine his enemy in episode 7 when he shot him down after Slaine saved his ass and that of all the other Terrans. Saazbaum's days were numbered the moment he pulled the trigger on Asseylum. Slaine was always her man and was never going to betray her like that. you is it's a duente fanboy, one that points the gun first, loses its rights of defense |
Jan 24, 2015 11:02 AM
#62
BenMS said: This episode made me LOL. It wasn't great but not too bad either. I actually feel bad that Saazbaum died, because he was one of the more 'complex' characters (as far as that can be in those series). Slaine further cornered himself, there's no way in hell he can get out of this war alive. There will be someone who finds out what happened either way. On bright side my prediction of Slaine trying to drop entire moon asteroid belt onto earth is even more feasible now since he got a position allowing that. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:02 AM
#63
ArdenFolgore said: Wind In Space - Ha ha ha that shit makes it's comeback and it's ridiculous Count Slaine - Ha ha ha We said that we will kill some characters for sure and so we did, but we did that in order to make the plot even more retarded. I had a major facepalm when I was watching this. I expected it to be better since Gundam 00 2nd Season was better and it had the same shit with characters who are dead coming back to life, but I was so disappointed after seeing this episode. Yep, wind in space: http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-07/first-direct-evidence-points-existence-space-wind |
Jan 24, 2015 11:03 AM
#64
Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. This war is already destroying what Princess wants. Everything he did goes against her wishes, including that last monologue. Saaz also had great endgame goals - did not excuse HOW he achieved them. And the HOW of Slaine is something Princess would hate him forever for. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean that he can do something interesting from now. Maybe he knows that the princess not gonna forgive him. Maybe he doesn't want forgiveness. Thats why I think he is a kind of anti hero. All he did saved her Life. If she had came back to mars in other ways, the knights would have killed her. You're missing the point. He is using her name and her image to justify the war. Just as he's using Sazbaum's after this episode. Princess wants Peace even at the cost of her own life. Everything Slaine has done and will continue to do, tramples all over that. The cost of her life? You're missing a point too. He doesn't want her to die, he loves her. So hate me princess, but Ill do thing in my way, but you will still alive. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:07 AM
#65
CookingPriest said: BenMS said: This episode made me LOL. It wasn't great but not too bad either. I actually feel bad that Saazbaum died, because he was one of the more 'complex' characters (as far as that can be in those series). Slaine further cornered himself, there's no way in hell he can get out of this war alive. There will be someone who finds out what happened either way. On bright side my prediction of Slaine trying to drop entire moon asteroid belt onto earth is even more feasible now since he got a position allowing that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't he need an fortress for that? Unless the creators of the series entirely forgot about them, it's possible they're all but destroyed by now (not sure WTF happened to those btw). |
Knight of the Obsidian Order Nth incarnation of NRVNQSR Animatic (Anime-fanatic) |
Jan 24, 2015 11:07 AM
#66
seujair31 said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. what good can the peace of Mars, if it is creating more hatred between the Terrans, you forget that Mars lacks the resources, and without the resources of the earth, Mars did not survive for long. to continue the war, the peace agreement between the earth and mars went into space. Now only remains the only option for abar war is one of the sides come out the winner. That's why we make peace. To deal with all the interests. That's why the princess utopian dream of peace cant be done without deaths and blood. After all the losses, people start to think about peace. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:07 AM
#67
julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. This war is already destroying what Princess wants. Everything he did goes against her wishes, including that last monologue. Saaz also had great endgame goals - did not excuse HOW he achieved them. And the HOW of Slaine is something Princess would hate him forever for. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean that he can do something interesting from now. Maybe he knows that the princess not gonna forgive him. Maybe he doesn't want forgiveness. Thats why I think he is a kind of anti hero. All he did saved her Life. If she had came back to mars in other ways, the knights would have killed her. You're missing the point. He is using her name and her image to justify the war. Just as he's using Sazbaum's after this episode. Princess wants Peace even at the cost of her own life. Everything Slaine has done and will continue to do, tramples all over that. The cost of her life? You're missing a point too. He doesn't want her to die, he loves her. So hate me princess, but Ill do thing in my way, but you will still alive. Except e clearly does not believe princess would hate him going by previous episode. It is most likely very stalker-y case of "I DID IT ALL FOR YOOOOOOOOUUUUU" Then Princess Shoots him and leaves him to bleed, going off from there with Inaho. Then Slaine influenced by CripplePrincess("Oh look she betrayed you, I would never") decides to ruin what Asseylum loves most - the earth by dropping the moon debris from asteroid field onto earth. Cue inaho having to stop that bullshit. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:07 AM
#68
what a person with compulsive obsession is able to do, an unhealthy love for the princess he eloqueceu. Ta clear why the director dice waving which the princess points the gun was important for second tempora. Very clear that encotro, the princess with Inaho the opening, it leaves a gun with the emblem of Mars, clearly to Inaho, can stop the madness of Slaine. is also why it appears behind the crying Slaine, disapproving acts of Slaine and also their attitudes. So words will not save mars If you do not have the resources to offer, will be only words |
Jan 24, 2015 11:09 AM
#70
CookingPriest said: BenMS said: This episode made me LOL. It wasn't great but not too bad either. I actually feel bad that Saazbaum died, because he was one of the more 'complex' characters (as far as that can be in those series). Slaine further cornered himself, there's no way in hell he can get out of this war alive. There will be someone who finds out what happened either way. On bright side my prediction of Slaine trying to drop entire moon asteroid belt onto earth is even more feasible now since he got a position allowing that. He took a look at Titan's previous attempts from Zeta Gundam and thought it might be worth a try as well... |
Jan 24, 2015 11:10 AM
#71
CookingPriest said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. This war is already destroying what Princess wants. Everything he did goes against her wishes, including that last monologue. Saaz also had great endgame goals - did not excuse HOW he achieved them. And the HOW of Slaine is something Princess would hate him forever for. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean that he can do something interesting from now. Maybe he knows that the princess not gonna forgive him. Maybe he doesn't want forgiveness. Thats why I think he is a kind of anti hero. All he did saved her Life. If she had came back to mars in other ways, the knights would have killed her. You're missing the point. He is using her name and her image to justify the war. Just as he's using Sazbaum's after this episode. Princess wants Peace even at the cost of her own life. Everything Slaine has done and will continue to do, tramples all over that. The cost of her life? You're missing a point too. He doesn't want her to die, he loves her. So hate me princess, but Ill do thing in my way, but you will still alive. Except e clearly does not believe princess would hate him going by previous episode. It is most likely very stalker-y case of "I DID IT ALL FOR YOOOOOOOOUUUUU" Then Princess Shoots him and leaves him to bleed, going off from there with Inaho. Then Slaine influenced by CripplePrincess("Oh look she betrayed you, I would never") decides to ruin what Asseylum loves most - the earth by dropping the moon debris from asteroid field onto earth. Cue inaho having to stop that bullshit. hahaha ok dude, let's wait for the next episodes and see Slaine's real intentions. Urobochi is writing now. We can wait for everything. ;) |
Jan 24, 2015 11:10 AM
#72
CookingPriest said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. sim é pa Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. This war is already destroying what Princess wants. Everything he did goes against her wishes, including that last monologue. Saaz also had great endgame goals - did not excuse HOW he achieved them. And the HOW of Slaine is something Princess would hate him forever for. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean that he can do something interesting from now. Maybe he knows that the princess not gonna forgive him. Maybe he doesn't want forgiveness. Thats why I think he is a kind of anti hero. All he did saved her Life. If she had came back to mars in other ways, the knights would have killed her. You're missing the point. He is using her name and her image to justify the war. Just as he's using Sazbaum's after this episode. Princess wants Peace even at the cost of her own life. Everything Slaine has done and will continue to do, tramples all over that. The cost of her life? You're missing a point too. He doesn't want her to die, he loves her. So hate me princess, but Ill do thing in my way, but you will still alive. Except e clearly does not believe princess would hate him going by previous episode. It is most likely very stalker-y case of "I DID IT ALL FOR YOOOOOOOOUUUUU" Then Princess Shoots him and leaves him to bleed, going off from there with Inaho. Then Slaine influenced by CripplePrincess("Oh look she betrayed you, I would never") decides to ruin what Asseylum loves most - the earth by dropping the moon debris from asteroid field onto earth. Cue inaho having to stop that bullshit. yes that's what the princess leaves the weapon in the opening so that Inaho stop the madness Slaine. It appears from behind Slaine crying, disapproving his actions, and kind of monster he became. This very clear in the opening |
Jan 24, 2015 11:11 AM
#73
julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. This war is already destroying what Princess wants. Everything he did goes against her wishes, including that last monologue. Saaz also had great endgame goals - did not excuse HOW he achieved them. And the HOW of Slaine is something Princess would hate him forever for. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean that he can do something interesting from now. Maybe he knows that the princess not gonna forgive him. Maybe he doesn't want forgiveness. Thats why I think he is a kind of anti hero. All he did saved her Life. If she had came back to mars in other ways, the knights would have killed her. You're missing the point. He is using her name and her image to justify the war. Just as he's using Sazbaum's after this episode. Princess wants Peace even at the cost of her own life. Everything Slaine has done and will continue to do, tramples all over that. The cost of her life? You're missing a point too. He doesn't want her to die, he loves her. So hate me princess, but Ill do thing in my way, but you will still alive. That makes him selfish and deluded. Again he won't receive any thanks or redemption for the shit he's done |
Jan 24, 2015 11:14 AM
#74
julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. This war is already destroying what Princess wants. Everything he did goes against her wishes, including that last monologue. Saaz also had great endgame goals - did not excuse HOW he achieved them. And the HOW of Slaine is something Princess would hate him forever for. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean that he can do something interesting from now. Maybe he knows that the princess not gonna forgive him. Maybe he doesn't want forgiveness. Thats why I think he is a kind of anti hero. All he did saved her Life. If she had came back to mars in other ways, the knights would have killed her. You're missing the point. He is using her name and her image to justify the war. Just as he's using Sazbaum's after this episode. Princess wants Peace even at the cost of her own life. Everything Slaine has done and will continue to do, tramples all over that. The cost of her life? You're missing a point too. He doesn't want her to die, he loves her. So hate me princess, but Ill do thing in my way, but you will still alive. Except e clearly does not believe princess would hate him going by previous episode. It is most likely very stalker-y case of "I DID IT ALL FOR YOOOOOOOOUUUUU" Then Princess Shoots him and leaves him to bleed, going off from there with Inaho. Then Slaine influenced by CripplePrincess("Oh look she betrayed you, I would never") decides to ruin what Asseylum loves most - the earth by dropping the moon debris from asteroid field onto earth. Cue inaho having to stop that bullshit. hahaha ok dude, let's wait for the next episodes and see Slaine's real intentions. Urobochi is writing now. We can wait for everything. ;) no friend, Urobochi he will write the last three episodes |
Jan 24, 2015 11:15 AM
#75
Kerozinn said: trainwreck fo the season confirmed lmao! Ikr ahahaha Last time I laughed like this was Akame ga kill's last few episode. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:15 AM
#76
Some of you posters are just downright stupid. In what way has Slaine become a villain? Saazbaum was his enemy who attempted to kill Asseylum, the person Slaine has sworn his loyalty too. Now that's he in a position of power, who knows what Slaine will do, but it seems rather dumb to make the same mistake of assuming the worst again like when Slaine bent the knee to Saazbaum. I called it then and it was confirmed now that Slaine was simply biding his time in exacting his revenge and pretended to believe in Saazbaum's agenda. The one thing we do know about Slaine is that he doesn't care about anyone or anything aside from Asseylum. Everything he has done since his introduction has been in service to her, for the sake of protecting her. Some of you talk about redemption like he's killed good people or done horrible things. He hasn't. Inaho isn't the good guy and more than Slaine is the bad guy. It's war. Both sides will champion themselves as good and the other as evil. Neither Slaine nor Inaho seem interested in such trite labels, which makes sense since neither of them are thinking about anything but protecting the people they care about. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:15 AM
#77
seujair31 said: . yes that's what the princess leaves the weapon in the opening so that Inaho stop the madness Slaine. It appears from behind Slaine crying, disapproving his actions, and kind of monster he became. This very clear in the opening[/quote] Have you ever watched Code Geass? If not dont click in the spoiler thing. Suzaku shot the bad emperor lelouch. And than Nunnally realizes the truth. What Im trying to say is that maybe theres a possibility that he is planning something. Redemption. I can be wrong. Lets wait. |
_junoJan 24, 2015 11:21 AM
Jan 24, 2015 11:16 AM
#78
I'll be glad when Urobuchi writes again - the first 3 episodes were actually decent (and the few after who used what Urobuchi established). Those in-between episodes are slowly starting to move into bullshit territory. |
Knight of the Obsidian Order Nth incarnation of NRVNQSR Animatic (Anime-fanatic) |
Jan 24, 2015 11:16 AM
#79
seujair31 said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: julyachan said: CookingPriest said: Yep Slaine is now 100% officially a final villain. Can't wait till princess wakes up and Slaine gets a rude awakening. The bastard has it coming. Also nice to see the Odin metaphor being confirmed by the show itself since some people were not getting it beforehand. Raziel1991 said: julyachan said: So thats why he saved Saazbaum. To guarantee that the princess could be save, and than kills the Count in revenge. lol He's not so dumb. Kinda feel Sorry for the haters. And yet he still continues the war even though he himself stated when he was being tortured by Crutheo that he would not allow anyone to crush the dream of the princess. Yep now it is actually WORSE If before it was "I am serving the man who is destroying your dream" it is now " I AM THE MAN WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR DREAM". DESTROYING? We don't know what he's planning dudes. He planned to kill Saazbaum. Maybe he is planning to crush Vers or to reach peace from inside. Because now he is the count. This war is already destroying what Princess wants. Everything he did goes against her wishes, including that last monologue. Saaz also had great endgame goals - did not excuse HOW he achieved them. And the HOW of Slaine is something Princess would hate him forever for. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean that he can do something interesting from now. Maybe he knows that the princess not gonna forgive him. Maybe he doesn't want forgiveness. Thats why I think he is a kind of anti hero. All he did saved her Life. If she had came back to mars in other ways, the knights would have killed her. You're missing the point. He is using her name and her image to justify the war. Just as he's using Sazbaum's after this episode. Princess wants Peace even at the cost of her own life. Everything Slaine has done and will continue to do, tramples all over that. The cost of her life? You're missing a point too. He doesn't want her to die, he loves her. So hate me princess, but Ill do thing in my way, but you will still alive. Except e clearly does not believe princess would hate him going by previous episode. It is most likely very stalker-y case of "I DID IT ALL FOR YOOOOOOOOUUUUU" Then Princess Shoots him and leaves him to bleed, going off from there with Inaho. Then Slaine influenced by CripplePrincess("Oh look she betrayed you, I would never") decides to ruin what Asseylum loves most - the earth by dropping the moon debris from asteroid field onto earth. Cue inaho having to stop that bullshit. hahaha ok dude, let's wait for the next episodes and see Slaine's real intentions. Urobochi is writing now. We can wait for everything. ;) no friend, Urobochi he will write the last three episodes The last 3 huh? Thanks god then. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:19 AM
#80
Jan 24, 2015 11:19 AM
#81
The ending is so predictable. Slaine is not an antagonist guys, he is going to work with the princess and make Vers a place for the poor lower class. He will be fighting Inaho entire series but in the end there will be peace and it would be Slain/princess on Vers and Inaho on Earth. There is no way writers are going to kill off Slaine in the end, it's going to be a romance&happy ending with princess where everything is solved. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:20 AM
#82
hypershatter said: The ending is so predictable. Slaine is not an antagonist guys, he is going to work with the princess and make Vers a place for the poor lower class. He will be fighting Inaho entire series but in the end there will be peace and it would be Slain/princess on Vers and Inaho on Earth. There is no way writers are going to kill off Slaine in the end, it's going to be a romance&happy ending with princess where everything is solved. *rolls eyes* Someone needs a reality check... |
Knight of the Obsidian Order Nth incarnation of NRVNQSR Animatic (Anime-fanatic) |
Jan 24, 2015 11:20 AM
#83
O SHET If there was ever any doubt that this would be anything but amazing, there certainly isn't now. #rowrowfightdapowa Slaine |
fstJan 24, 2015 11:24 AM
Jan 24, 2015 11:21 AM
#84
BenMS said: hypershatter said: The ending is so predictable. Slaine is not an antagonist guys, he is going to work with the princess and make Vers a place for the poor lower class. He will be fighting Inaho entire series but in the end there will be peace and it would be Slain/princess on Vers and Inaho on Earth. There is no way writers are going to kill off Slaine in the end, it's going to be a romance&happy ending with princess where everything is solved. *rolls eyes* Someone needs a reality check... oh snap so you know the ending huh? please show me the reality then. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:22 AM
#85
hypershatter said: The ending is so predictable. Slaine is not an antagonist guys, he is going to work with the princess and make Vers a place for the poor lower class. He will be fighting Inaho entire series but in the end there will be peace and it would be Slain/princess on Vers and Inaho on Earth. There is no way writers are going to kill off Slaine in the end, it's going to be a romance&happy ending with princess where everything is solved. There is no way Vers can be a place for the poor without conquering Earth, and Inaho won't let that happen, and the Princess doesn't even want war in the first place. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:23 AM
#86
This would have been a genuinely good surprise if it was in a better show. Right now our Lord and Savior once again ruined another battle with the bullshit. Oh and did I mention how awful the mechs are in this? For instance, why would Saazbuum put the barrier gap at the FRONT of his mech? You know, the part that most people would be shooting at? Why not in between the legs of it, which would be the hardest part to get to? And just how far in the future can slaine's mech predict? This dude shot those rounds like 5 hours ago and they managed to hit Saaz.. how did he know they'd be back at that exact point? And of course our lord and savior knew something was coming despite having slaine, saazbuum and other people shooting at him. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:24 AM
#87
hypershatter said: The ending is so predictable. Slaine is not an antagonist guys, he is going to work with the princess and make Vers a place for the poor lower class. He will be fighting Inaho entire series but in the end there will be peace and it would be Slain/princess on Vers and Inaho on Earth. There is no way writers are going to kill off Slaine in the end, it's going to be a romance&happy ending with princess where everything is solved. You need to stop drinking the Koolaid |
Jan 24, 2015 11:25 AM
#88
Knight-Artorias said: hypershatter said: The ending is so predictable. Slaine is not an antagonist guys, he is going to work with the princess and make Vers a place for the poor lower class. He will be fighting Inaho entire series but in the end there will be peace and it would be Slain/princess on Vers and Inaho on Earth. There is no way writers are going to kill off Slaine in the end, it's going to be a romance&happy ending with princess where everything is solved. There is no way Vers can be a place for the poor without conquering Earth, and Inaho won't let that happen, and the Princess doesn't even want war in the first place. so ending is gona be Vers and entire civilization annihilated because they cant do sht without Earth? No, probably some kind of trade pact that come with peace with Earth supplying resources to help develop Vers. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:25 AM
#89
What makes anyone here think Slaine actually gives a shit about the Vers Empire? As far as he's concerned they're all a threat to Asseylum's wellbeing. If he is going down the Suzaku path, then he's going to do what he can to change the system from within, but those sort of ambitions are a bit out of character unless Slaine is plotting to set everything up so Asseylum can take over. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:25 AM
#90
Slaine finally got the count out the way. Gain power then kick him off his throne. He was probably going to backstab Slaine If he got the chance so he had It coming. So now Slaine seems like hes taking the main lead now. I dont know how things will go but they seem like they will get copmplex when the princess wakes up. I don't see a happy end coming off of this but now I'm looking forward to see what happens now that Slaine been put in this position. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:26 AM
#91
CTM!!! I really like this episode. Slaine has not mercy, when is about the princess. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:26 AM
#92
TheIMF said: What makes anyone here think Slaine actually gives a shit about the Vers Empire? As far as he's concerned they're all a threat to Asseylum's wellbeing. If he is going down the Suzaku path, then he's going to do what he can to change the system from within, but those sort of ambitions are a bit out of character unless Slaine is plotting to set everything up so Asseylum can take over. Asseylum would not want a throne that was paid for in blood. So no she will not work with Slaine. She's going to run away from him most likely and then end his madness. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:28 AM
#93
hypershatter said: Knight-Artorias said: hypershatter said: The ending is so predictable. Slaine is not an antagonist guys, he is going to work with the princess and make Vers a place for the poor lower class. He will be fighting Inaho entire series but in the end there will be peace and it would be Slain/princess on Vers and Inaho on Earth. There is no way writers are going to kill off Slaine in the end, it's going to be a romance&happy ending with princess where everything is solved. There is no way Vers can be a place for the poor without conquering Earth, and Inaho won't let that happen, and the Princess doesn't even want war in the first place. so ending is gona be Vers and entire civilization annihilated because they cant do sht without Earth? No, probably some kind of trade pact that come with peace with Earth supplying resources to help develop Vers. You know if they wanted trades and shit they would've done it since the Princess was going down to Earth for strength their relationship but NOOOOPE they want war cause they have hate for terrans ingrained into them. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:28 AM
#94
slaine gonna slaine |
Jan 24, 2015 11:28 AM
#95
hypershatter said: BenMS said: hypershatter said: The ending is so predictable. Slaine is not an antagonist guys, he is going to work with the princess and make Vers a place for the poor lower class. He will be fighting Inaho entire series but in the end there will be peace and it would be Slain/princess on Vers and Inaho on Earth. There is no way writers are going to kill off Slaine in the end, it's going to be a romance&happy ending with princess where everything is solved. *rolls eyes* Someone needs a reality check... oh snap so you know the ending huh? please show me the reality then. I don't know how the ending exactly will be - but I'm sure as hell it won't be the way you describe. Even while the writers are digging into BS-land, they still use *some* sense in writing - and everything in psychology and the area of common sense points at the princess not going to forgive him when she learns what Slaine and Saazbaum have done. Slaine is bound to get killed either way. He's not only an nuisance and a traitor to everyone involved, but he also betrayed 'his himeyi-sama' by doing what he has done. Also, Vers can't exist without further resources. If Vers is going to continue existing, either Vers must conquer Earth - which I severely doubt is going to happen - or must have some sort of agreement with Earth. In the latter case, I can imagine Earth will demand the death of several of the Orbital Knights. |
Knight of the Obsidian Order Nth incarnation of NRVNQSR Animatic (Anime-fanatic) |
Jan 24, 2015 11:28 AM
#96
Darklight0303 said: TheIMF said: What makes anyone here think Slaine actually gives a shit about the Vers Empire? As far as he's concerned they're all a threat to Asseylum's wellbeing. If he is going down the Suzaku path, then he's going to do what he can to change the system from within, but those sort of ambitions are a bit out of character unless Slaine is plotting to set everything up so Asseylum can take over. Asseylum would not want a throne that was paid for in blood. So no she will not work with Slaine. She's going to run away from him most likely and then end his madness. If you know how peace can be achieved then please tell us and enlighten us all. For all we know Slaine could be promoting this war just so all these other counts(you know the ones with superiority complexes) can get killed off and then in the end call it a day. It could be but I can't say. Peace is a nice Ideal but with the current state of Vers it is only a pipe dream and maybe Slaine sees that. HOWEVER IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO JUST WANT PEACE AND BAM IT HAPPEN. That's what a lot of you claim should happen but for fucks sake get real. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:29 AM
#97
I don't get how some people are saying Slaine is doing all this to get thanks from the princess. Not once Slaine is saying this is what the princess wants or he is carrying out the princess' wish. From this episode it's clear that Slaine's plan is to rule Vers and abolish Aldnoah, essentially removing Asseylum from her noble title too. This is because he thinks this is what needs to be done to create a peaceful world where there is no conflict. But he is completely aware that his actions would be hated by Asseylum and she won't approve this. It looks like to me he is going to pull a Lelouch here; making him out to be the most evil one, get killed and then passed the peaceful world to Asseylum. He is still not delusional enough to think that Asseylum will accept everything bad he had done. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:29 AM
#98
Knight-Artorias said: hypershatter said: Knight-Artorias said: hypershatter said: The ending is so predictable. Slaine is not an antagonist guys, he is going to work with the princess and make Vers a place for the poor lower class. He will be fighting Inaho entire series but in the end there will be peace and it would be Slain/princess on Vers and Inaho on Earth. There is no way writers are going to kill off Slaine in the end, it's going to be a romance&happy ending with princess where everything is solved. There is no way Vers can be a place for the poor without conquering Earth, and Inaho won't let that happen, and the Princess doesn't even want war in the first place. so ending is gona be Vers and entire civilization annihilated because they cant do sht without Earth? No, probably some kind of trade pact that come with peace with Earth supplying resources to help develop Vers. You know if they wanted trades and shit they would've done it since the Princess was going down to Earth for strength their relationship but NOOOOPE they want war cause they have hate for terrans ingrained into them. well obviously Slaine is going to get rid of the entire Nobles knights since they were the ones that started the assassination. |
Jan 24, 2015 11:29 AM
#99
THe only thing Slaine has managed to achieve is give Lemrina even more leverage to use against him since she'll likely figure out what really happened and then dangle that information over Slaine. And since she can't go out on the battlefield and is the one keeping their Aldnoah tech running, Slaine can't touch her. He's literally FUCKED |
Jan 24, 2015 11:31 AM
#100
hypershatter said: Knight-Artorias said: hypershatter said: Knight-Artorias said: hypershatter said: The ending is so predictable. Slaine is not an antagonist guys, he is going to work with the princess and make Vers a place for the poor lower class. He will be fighting Inaho entire series but in the end there will be peace and it would be Slain/princess on Vers and Inaho on Earth. There is no way writers are going to kill off Slaine in the end, it's going to be a romance&happy ending with princess where everything is solved. There is no way Vers can be a place for the poor without conquering Earth, and Inaho won't let that happen, and the Princess doesn't even want war in the first place. so ending is gona be Vers and entire civilization annihilated because they cant do sht without Earth? No, probably some kind of trade pact that come with peace with Earth supplying resources to help develop Vers. You know if they wanted trades and shit they would've done it since the Princess was going down to Earth for strength their relationship but NOOOOPE they want war cause they have hate for terrans ingrained into them. well obviously Slaine is going to get rid of the entire Nobles knights since they were the ones that started the assassination. And the millions of lives lost in the process? What about those? |
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