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Jan 4, 2015 3:35 PM
#1
http://www.snarkycat.com/Enigma/Evidence/Evidence.html I found this site claiming that there's yaoi subtext within these shows... I hate yaoi so the simple solution for me would be to simply not watch any of these anime. In fact, I could use this to lower my Plan to Watch number since I won't have to worry about watching these anime... however, I seen some of them already and know very well they're not yaoi... Some of these interpretations are just plain wrong. so if you've seen these anime (particualry X, Yuyu hakusho, K, Neon Genesis evangellion, Bersek, Gundam wing, and 07 Ghost... those are all ones I plan to watch and if you can clarify if there really is yaoi stuff in them, I can easily just not watch them and take them off my list |
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Jan 4, 2015 3:37 PM
#2
If you look hard enough you'll find Yaoi subtext in Girls und Panzer. |
Jan 4, 2015 3:37 PM
#3
all of them But seriously, after reading through it a bit, they aren't even getting the more obvious yaoi-subtext couples from some of the ones they pick! Yuusuke and Hiei (really) over Itsuki and Sensui? Really? That one is actually text! Neither is the website particularly well written, and the evidence isn't damning, even when dealing with couples where it should be. On the whole, it's mostly delusion, pay it no mind. |
KezmiJan 4, 2015 3:55 PM
Jan 4, 2015 3:38 PM
#4
You can find yaoi/yuri subtext in everything. Just don't have those homo goggles on when you watch it and you'll be fine. |
Jan 4, 2015 3:40 PM
#5
YuYu Hakusho, Evangelion and Berserk are awesome, don't let a yaoi "subtext" fool you |
Jan 4, 2015 3:49 PM
#6
/facepalm |
Jan 4, 2015 4:03 PM
#7
You have a pretty big problem if you're incapable of watching something that so much hints at male on male love. Subtext doesn't equate to the main focal point of a series. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:07 PM
#8
mayukachan said: ^You can find yaoi/yuri subtext in everything. Just don't have those homo goggles on when you watch it and you'll be fine. 07 Ghost -> It has Shounen-ai vibes but literally nothing happens. X - BL Subtext (that's obvious) Death Note? ..Really? |
Jan 4, 2015 4:08 PM
#9
Watch Boku no Pico that'll fix you |
I envy your delusion; I wish I could live in it |
Jan 4, 2015 4:09 PM
#10
Berserk, Evangelion and DBZ are pretty gay. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:10 PM
#11
Yeah, it's like the others are saying. I watched 15-20 episodes of Neon Genesis evangellion (decided to stop and wait for the last movie and watch them all in 1 go) and I don't remember any male-male love or relation. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:13 PM
#12
Lyuze said: You have a pretty big problem if you're incapable of watching something that so much hints at male on male love. Subtext doesn't equate to the main focal point of a series. Pretty much this. Also, I feel bad for you that the slightest possibility of a male/male romantic relationship in a series, even as a side relationship, makes you not want to watch a show. It's sad. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:17 PM
#13
JCAPER said: Yeah, it's like the others are saying. I watched 15-20 episodes of Neon Genesis evangelion (decided to stop and wait for the last movie and watch them all in 1 go) and I don't remember any male-male love or relation. Kaworu and Shinji took a shower together |
Jan 4, 2015 4:19 PM
#14
sullynathan said: Two men can't take a shower together? Especially in Japan?JCAPER said: Yeah, it's like the others are saying. I watched 15-20 episodes of Neon Genesis evangelion (decided to stop and wait for the last movie and watch them all in 1 go) and I don't remember any male-male love or relation. Kaworu and Shinji took a shower together |
Jan 4, 2015 4:19 PM
#15
sullynathan said: JCAPER said: Yeah, it's like the others are saying. I watched 15-20 episodes of Neon Genesis evangelion (decided to stop and wait for the last movie and watch them all in 1 go) and I don't remember any male-male love or relation. Kaworu and Shinji took a shower together Ah, I see. Still, no reason to put this show aside just because of that. (or did they do any funny stuff?) |
Jan 4, 2015 4:19 PM
#16
Thing is... to everyone... It depends on the level of the subtext.... If it can be taken as being just close friends, I can watch it.... I know trigun isn't gay, yet this person still listed it for some reason That being said... I'll watch any anime as long as the main character isn't gay... It's okay if they're minor characters, but if it's a supporting character I don't want them to be too important or portrayed as badass... So as long as the main characters aren't gay it's fine. I'm not homophobic, it's just that I can't connect or feel reverence or attachment if they're gay... And if I can't like a character, how can I enjoy the show while disliking the protagonist |
Jan 4, 2015 4:26 PM
#17
silversongwriter said: Thing is... to everyone... It depends on the level of the subtext.... If it can be taken as being just close friends, I can watch it.... I know trigun isn't gay, yet this person still listed it for some reason That being said... I'll watch any anime as long as the main character isn't gay... It's okay if they're minor characters, but if it's a supporting character I don't want them to be too important or portrayed as badass... So as long as the main characters aren't gay it's fine. I'm not homophobic, it's just that I can't connect or feel reverence or attachment if they're gay... And if I can't like a character, how can I enjoy the show while disliking the protagonist Anyone who says you are homophobic just because you wouldn't feel connection with a gay protagonist is dumb. I can't stand wuss protagonists, does that make me wussphobic? But anyway, I think you shouldn't rely on that list, it listed some shows that made me scratch my head. If you want to see a show, just see if it has yaoi tags. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:29 PM
#18
silversongwriter said: Thing is... to everyone... It depends on the level of the subtext.... If it can be taken as being just close friends, I can watch it.... I know trigun isn't gay, yet this person still listed it for some reason That being said... I'll watch any anime as long as the main character isn't gay... It's okay if they're minor characters, but if it's a supporting character I don't want them to be too important or portrayed as badass... So as long as the main characters aren't gay it's fine. I'm not homophobic, it's just that I can't connect or feel reverence or attachment if they're gay... And if I can't like a character, how can I enjoy the show while disliking the protagonist And yet you can watch shows with all female casts and enjoy them without issue? If you can't connect with a dude who likes dicks I highly doubt you can connect with girls who like dicks. It's fine to not want to watch a show because you're not comfortable with gay shit, but your logic is incomprehensible. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:31 PM
#19
JCAPER said: I'm not homophobic, it's just that I can't connect or feel reverence or attachment if they're gay... And if I can't like a character, how can I enjoy the show while disliking the protagonist Anyone who says you are homophobic just because you wouldn't feel connection with a gay protagonist is dumb. I can't stand wuss protagonists, does that make me wussphobic? But anyway, I think you shouldn't rely on that list, it listed some shows that made me scratch my head. If you want to see a show, just see if it has yaoi tags.[/quote] Yea... I probably won't watch 07 ghost, or beserk... those look the gayest. And I probably won't watch NGE either cause there's some really gay shit in it... however, it looks like it's kind of one sided. Have you by any chance seen Shinseki yori? I've heard there's many bisexual characters, but I don't care unless the main male protagonist is gay Lyuze said: And yet you can watch shows with all female casts and enjoy them without issue? If you can't connect with a dude who likes dicks I highly doubt you can connect with girls who like dicks. It's fine to not want to watch a show because you're not comfortable with gay shit, but your logic is incomprehensible. Because I simply don't like gay characters... Women are supposed to like guys, so obviously it won't bother me if a woman is into guys...and the reason why two chicks doesn't bother me is because I'm a pervert... simple. I like lesbians and find gays to be gross.... and if that makes me a homophobe, well too bad. |
silversongwriterJan 4, 2015 4:38 PM
Jan 4, 2015 4:32 PM
#20
Shinsekai Yori spoilers: The main characters (Saki and Satoru) are in a love triangle with another guy. Both of them like the same guy. The show ends with a hetero couple though. Arguable but the only protagonist is Saki. NGE isn't gay. My straight guy friends don't think it's gay either. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:36 PM
#21
NGE is one of the best anime out there. And Berserk isn't gay, get over it. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:38 PM
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Jan 4, 2015 4:38 PM
#23
berserk... gay? |
Jan 4, 2015 4:42 PM
#24
I think his last reply was sarcastic. Berserk is not gay, I garante that. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:42 PM
#25
mayukachan said: Shinsekai Yori spoilers: The main characters (Saki and Satoru) are in a love triangle with another guy. Both of them like the same guy. The show ends with a hetero couple though. Arguable but the only protagonist is Saki. NGE isn't gay. My straight guy friends don't think it's gay either. Yea... Not watch that anime, for some reason the very concept of an "ancient Greece" type society where being bisexual is the norm just pisses me off... I'll give NGE a chance though |
Jan 4, 2015 4:46 PM
#27
Extreme3708 said: Berserk gay ??? lol Ok... so there's nothing going on between the two male characters... right? If so, I'll watch cause I hear it's good... like really good |
Jan 4, 2015 4:46 PM
#28
silversongwriter said: you should read up what that site has to say, and decide if it's 2yaoi4uhttp://www.snarkycat.com/Enigma/Evidence/Evidence.html I found this site claiming that there's yaoi subtext within these shows... I hate yaoi so the simple solution for me would be to simply not watch any of these anime. In fact, I could use this to lower my Plan to Watch number since I won't have to worry about watching these anime... however, I seen some of them already and know very well they're not yaoi... Some of these interpretations are just plain wrong. so if you've seen these anime (particualry X, Yuyu hakusho, K, Neon Genesis evangellion, Bersek, Gundam wing, and 07 Ghost... those are all ones I plan to watch and if you can clarify if there really is yaoi stuff in them, I can easily just not watch them and take them off my list |
Jan 4, 2015 4:47 PM
#29
silversongwriter said: Extreme3708 said: Berserk gay ??? lol Ok... so there's nothing going on between the two male characters... right? If so, I'll watch cause I hear it's good... like really good It's not just good, it's great. And the manga is a masterpiece. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:47 PM
#30
silversongwriter said: Extreme3708 said: Berserk gay ??? lol Ok... so there's nothing going on between the two male characters... right? If so, I'll watch cause I hear it's good... like really good A male character got raped in Berserk, though. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:47 PM
#31
ROTH said: sullynathan said: Two men can't take a shower together? Especially in Japan?JCAPER said: Yeah, it's like the others are saying. I watched 15-20 episodes of Neon Genesis evangelion (decided to stop and wait for the last movie and watch them all in 1 go) and I don't remember any male-male love or relation. Kaworu and Shinji took a shower together *two underage boys that don't know each other taking a shower together and sleeping in the same bed. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:48 PM
#32
Extreme3708 said: Berserk gay ??? lol kami_desu said: berserk... gay? LucasRTS said: And Berserk isn't gay, get over it. Both of the main characters have taken it up they're ass. Guts was raped as a kid and griffith had sex with a man |
Jan 4, 2015 4:49 PM
#33
romagia said: silversongwriter said: you should read up what that site has to say, and decide if it's 2yaoi4uhttp://www.snarkycat.com/Enigma/Evidence/Evidence.html I found this site claiming that there's yaoi subtext within these shows... I hate yaoi so the simple solution for me would be to simply not watch any of these anime. In fact, I could use this to lower my Plan to Watch number since I won't have to worry about watching these anime... however, I seen some of them already and know very well they're not yaoi... Some of these interpretations are just plain wrong. so if you've seen these anime (particualry X, Yuyu hakusho, K, Neon Genesis evangellion, Bersek, Gundam wing, and 07 Ghost... those are all ones I plan to watch and if you can clarify if there really is yaoi stuff in them, I can easily just not watch them and take them off my list Yea... but they bullshit you... Trigun isn't yaoi at all, yet they still listed it and the "evidence" used to say it was, was way too exaggerated. The sites not very trust-worthy LucasRTS said: And Berserk isn't gay, get over it. Both of the main characters have taken it up they're ass. Guts was raped as a kid and griffith had sex with a man[/quote] Never mind... fuck beserk... never seen it, but if the main characters are gay, then it wouldn't be right for me to watch it... since my homophobic feelings would cause me to not see how good the anime actually is... like with Cardcaptor Sakura or Deathnote.... |
silversongwriterJan 4, 2015 4:57 PM
Jan 4, 2015 4:54 PM
#34
I recommend watching NGE, the "gay" subtext is basically nonexistent. There should be no reason for you to be bothered by it. Shinsekai yori is interesting. Basically everyone is bisexual. (it's explained of course) The main protagonist is female by the way, but there are three other male main characters. Now, the interactions of the characters are more straight forward when it comes to their bisexuality. In reality only one episode has any scene involving a bisexual relationship. One with two men and another with two women. Don't know if you care about yuri, but neither scene last long anyways. In the other episodes a romance is simply hinted (one between girls btw), but is nothing explicitly shown. I would't let one scene stop you from watching Shinsekai yori, considering it is a great anime. The characters show more interest for the opposite gender anyways. |
Jan 4, 2015 4:55 PM
#35
silversongwriter said: you might want to compare with the evidence in other shows; trigun has some of the least gay evidenceromagia said: silversongwriter said: http://www.snarkycat.com/Enigma/Evidence/Evidence.html I found this site claiming that there's yaoi subtext within these shows... I hate yaoi so the simple solution for me would be to simply not watch any of these anime. In fact, I could use this to lower my Plan to Watch number since I won't have to worry about watching these anime... however, I seen some of them already and know very well they're not yaoi... Some of these interpretations are just plain wrong. so if you've seen these anime (particualry X, Yuyu hakusho, K, Neon Genesis evangellion, Bersek, Gundam wing, and 07 Ghost... those are all ones I plan to watch and if you can clarify if there really is yaoi stuff in them, I can easily just not watch them and take them off my list Yea... but they bullshit you... Trigun isn't yaoi at all, yet they still listed it and the "evidence" used to say it was, was way too exaggerated. The sites not very trust-worthy |
Jan 4, 2015 4:59 PM
#36
I guess that means this show is out too. Sucks to be you... Seriously though, don't miss Berserk. It's too good. |
Jan 4, 2015 5:02 PM
#37
AnimeSoap said: I recommend watching NGE, the "gay" subtext is basically nonexistent. There should be no reason for you to be bothered by it. Shinsekai yori is interesting. Basically everyone is bisexual. (it's explained of course) The main protagonist is female by the way, but there are three other male main characters. Now, the interactions of the characters are more straight forward when it comes to their bisexuality. In reality only one episode has any scene involving a bisexual relationship. One with two men and another with two women. Don't know if you care about yuri, but neither scene last long anyways. In the other episodes a romance is simply hinted (one between girls btw), but is nothing explicitly shown. I would't let one scene stop you from watching Shinsekai yori, considering it is a great anime. The characters show more interest for the opposite gender anyways. The better it is.. the more it will piss me off that the characters are all bi. elitsu said: Wow, haven't seen such an extreme homophobe on mal in a while. Also lol at NGE not being gay. You know what... I am... sure, I'm a homophobe...I'll dislike a character automatically if they're gay... and if that makes me a bigot... I guess I am. but the thing is... I don't care. Maybe I am a homophobe, maybe gays just bug me a little... who cares? I don't... so why deny being homophobic, when to some extent I guess I am... and if I wasn't a pervert, I'd probably feel the same about lesbians (No I wouldn't actually, I'd have to quit anime all together in order to follow that rule... and plus, I'm a pervert, so lesbians simply turn me on) |
Jan 4, 2015 5:03 PM
#38
Gymkata said: I guess that means this show is out too. Sucks to be you... http://i.imgur.com/r2Sv3ey.jpg Seriously though, don't miss Berserk. It's too good. why not post the big one? |
Jan 4, 2015 5:04 PM
#39
silversongwriter said: romagia said: silversongwriter said: http://www.snarkycat.com/Enigma/Evidence/Evidence.html I found this site claiming that there's yaoi subtext within these shows... I hate yaoi so the simple solution for me would be to simply not watch any of these anime. In fact, I could use this to lower my Plan to Watch number since I won't have to worry about watching these anime... however, I seen some of them already and know very well they're not yaoi... Some of these interpretations are just plain wrong. so if you've seen these anime (particualry X, Yuyu hakusho, K, Neon Genesis evangellion, Bersek, Gundam wing, and 07 Ghost... those are all ones I plan to watch and if you can clarify if there really is yaoi stuff in them, I can easily just not watch them and take them off my list Yea... but they bullshit you... Trigun isn't yaoi at all, yet they still listed it and the "evidence" used to say it was, was way too exaggerated. The sites not very trust-worthy LucasRTS said: And Berserk isn't gay, get over it. Both of the main characters have taken it up they're ass. Guts was raped as a kid and griffith had sex with a man Never mind... fuck beserk... never seen it, but if the main characters are gay, then it wouldn't be right for me to watch it... since my homophobic feelings would cause me to not see how good the anime actually is... like with Cardcaptor Sakura or Deathnote.... [/quote] Being raped as a child equates to being gay when you've grown up? Holy shit these leaps in logic are just so far beyond me that I can't help but laugh. Why don't you try getting over your prejudice instead of just hididng away from any media that so much as whispers gay stuff? |
Jan 4, 2015 5:05 PM
#40
romagia said: Gymkata said: I guess that means this show is out too. Sucks to be you... http://i.imgur.com/r2Sv3ey.jpg Seriously though, don't miss Berserk. It's too good. why not post the big one? Nope... you just gave me every reason not to watch this |
Jan 4, 2015 5:06 PM
#41
Anything that remotely depicts anything less than macho, stoic hostility between men is flaming homosexuality. |
Jan 4, 2015 5:06 PM
#42
silversongwriter said: You're a sweet boyNope... you just gave me every reason not to watch this |
Jan 4, 2015 5:06 PM
#43
romagia said: Gymkata said: I guess that means this show is out too. Sucks to be you... http://i.imgur.com/r2Sv3ey.jpg Seriously though, don't miss Berserk. It's too good. why not post the big one? Reinhard is just awesome |
Jan 4, 2015 5:07 PM
#44
Gymkata said: I guess that means this show is out too. Sucks to be you... Seriously though, don't miss Berserk. It's too good. Damn, they're both rock hard! |
Jan 4, 2015 5:09 PM
#45
Holy shit. Let me believe this conveniently screenshotted moment of something that looks gay while overlooking the entire anime. |
Jan 4, 2015 5:10 PM
#46
SetsukoHara said: Gymkata said: I guess that means this show is out too. Sucks to be you... Seriously though, don't miss Berserk. It's too good. Damn, they're both rock hard! Eww... I see you wished to reinforce my decision to not watch. |
Jan 4, 2015 5:11 PM
#47
OP should absolutely check out JoJo 2012. |
Jan 4, 2015 5:11 PM
#48
silversongwriter said: SetsukoHara said: Gymkata said: I guess that means this show is out too. Sucks to be you... Seriously though, don't miss Berserk. It's too good. Damn, they're both rock hard! Eww... I see you wished to reinforce my decision to not watch. Actually, it's one of the best anime EVER made. I feel sorry for you. |
Jan 4, 2015 5:12 PM
#49
LucasRTS said: silversongwriter said: SetsukoHara said: Gymkata said: I guess that means this show is out too. Sucks to be you... Seriously though, don't miss Berserk. It's too good. Damn, they're both rock hard! Eww... I see you wished to reinforce my decision to not watch. Actually, it's one of the best anime EVER made. I feel sorry for you. I'm weeping for OP... |
Jan 4, 2015 5:13 PM
#50
LucasRTS said: silversongwriter said: SetsukoHara said: Gymkata said: I guess that means this show is out too. Sucks to be you... Seriously though, don't miss Berserk. It's too good. Damn, they're both rock hard! Eww... I see you wished to reinforce my decision to not watch. Actually, it's one of the best anime EVER made. I feel sorry for you. well if the characters are gay then I can't like it... so however good it is won't matter if I'm unable to appreciate the characters.. If I can't like the characters how am I gonna be invested in anything? Also, what about Gungrave... anyone seen that. If I can drop one more anime, my Completed list will be twice the amount as my PTW list. I don' know what I want it that way, I just do |
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