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Nov 19, 2014 7:31 PM
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I'm reading the VN currently and I finished Fate route and about to finish UBW either later today or tomorrow. Haven't started HF yet but I will.

Anyways I searched it up and found out that there are so many other Fate works and was wondering if they are worth checking out and which ones are involved with the main storyline. I heard hollow ataraxia was a sequel so I'll probably check that out but I don't really wanna watch spin offs like the ilya one that came out recently.

Have you guys really checked all these out?? Or just the original VN/anime

Fate works:
Fate/stay night original VN - 2004
Take-Moon - 2004
Fate/hollow ataraxia - 2005
Fate/stay night anime - 2006
Fate/stay night manga - 2006
Fate/Zero - 2006
Fate/tiger colosseum 2007
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA - 2007
Fate/unlimited codes - 2008
Fate/strange fake - 2008
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 2wei! - 2009
Fate/Extra - 2010
Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works film - 2010
Fate/Zero manga - 2011
Carnival Phantasm - 2011
Fate/Prototype - 2011
Fate/Zero anime - 2011
Fate/Apocrypha - 2012
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 3rei!! - 2012
Fate/Extra CCC - 2013
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA anime - 2013
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 2wei! anime - 2014
Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works series - 2014
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 2wei! Herz - 2015
Fate/stay night Heaven's Feel film - ????
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Nov 19, 2014 7:35 PM
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Just leave these out of your list. Don't ever touch them

- DEENight 2006
- DEEN movie 2010
- FSN manga
- FZ manga

Everything else is fine. You should watch/play them all if you could, especially Hollow Ataraxia.
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Hollow Ataraxia and apocrypha
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chickenonthepan said:
Just leave these out of your list:

- DEENight 2006
- DEEN movie 2010
- FSN manga
- FZ manga

Everything else is fine. You should watch/play them all if you could.

Is it really necessary to though? Like i know Fate/kaleid liner prisma ilya has nothing to do with the real story and is just a spinoff, so was wondering if the others are all like that as well. I dont really wanna watch/read something not essential to the main storyline of fate
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Qans said:

Is it really necessary to though? Like i know Fate/kaleid liner prisma ilya has nothing to do with the real story and is just a spinoff, so was wondering if the others are all like that as well. I dont really wanna watch/read something not essential to the main storyline of fate


No, not necessary. They are really good on their own. So if you really love Fate, you should watch/play them all.

The only sequel to FSN is Hollow Ataraxia. And FZ is the prequel. But both of these should be played/watched after you finish FSN VN.
Nov 19, 2014 7:45 PM
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Probably not worth watching 2006 anime or reading the manga. If you don't like spin offs you won't like Carnival Phantasm either. You could watch the 2010 UBW movie for the action scenes but it's really not that great (the current series is better anyway).

Fate/Prototype was the authors first version of FSN.

Tiger Colosseum and Unlimited codes are fighting games.

Fate/Strange Fake is a spinoff/alternate type thing.

Fate/Extra is an RPG.

Fate/Apocrypha is another alternate parallel world.

Fate/HA, Fate Zero, and Fate/Stay Night UBW series are worth checking out.

If you like the author's work you could check out kara no Kyoukai (7 movie series) or Tsukihime (the first VN they released)
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Qans said:
I'm reading the VN currently and I finished Fate route and about to finish UBW either later today or tomorrow. Haven't started HF yet but I will.

Anyways I searched it up and found out that there are so many other Fate works and was wondering if they are worth checking out and which ones are involved with the main storyline. I heard hollow ataraxia was a sequel so I'll probably check that out but I don't really wanna watch spin offs like the ilya one that came out recently.

Have you guys really checked all these out?? Or just the original VN/anime

Fate works:
Fate/stay night original VN - 2004
Take-Moon - 2004
Fate/hollow ataraxia - 2005
Fate/stay night anime - 2006
Fate/stay night manga - 2006
Fate/Zero - 2006
Fate/tiger colosseum 2007
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA - 2007
Fate/unlimited codes - 2008
Fate/strange fake - 2008
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 2wei! - 2009
Fate/Extra - 2010
Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works film - 2010
Fate/Zero manga - 2011
Carnival Phantasm - 2011
Fate/Prototype - 2011
Fate/Zero anime - 2011
Fate/Apocrypha - 2012
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 3rei!! - 2012
Fate/Extra CCC - 2013
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA anime - 2013
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 2wei! anime - 2014
Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works series - 2014
Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 2wei! Herz - 2015
Fate/stay night Heaven's Feel film - ????


That's a nice list and It may feel daunting but you probably should split them up into Main and Side.

If you really like FSN and just want a bit more:
Fate Hollow Ataraxia

But when it comes to Nasuverse: these are a little more Crucial:
Tsukihime
Kara no Kyoukai

and then:
Fate/Extra
Apocrypha
Strange/fake

Things like:
Fate/tiger colosseum 2007
Carnival Phantasm - 2011
Take-Moon - 2004

Are all nice and dandy but are really best if your already an established Type-fag
Nov 19, 2014 7:48 PM
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Ooh gotcha thanks guys
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WrongPriest, you missed FZ.
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Qans said:
chickenonthepan said:
Just leave these out of your list:

- DEENight 2006
- DEEN movie 2010
- FSN manga
- FZ manga

Everything else is fine. You should watch/play them all if you could.

Is it really necessary to though? Like i know Fate/kaleid liner prisma ilya has nothing to do with the real story and is just a spinoff, so was wondering if the others are all like that as well. I dont really wanna watch/read something not essential to the main storyline of fate


In the end, Just do the Holy trinity:

Fate stay/night (Then watch F/z)
Tsukihime (VN, for the love of god)
Kara no Kyoukai

then Hollow ataraxia.

Edit* Oh shit F/z lol
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WrongPriest said:
Qans said:

Is it really necessary to though? Like i know Fate/kaleid liner prisma ilya has nothing to do with the real story and is just a spinoff, so was wondering if the others are all like that as well. I dont really wanna watch/read something not essential to the main storyline of fate


In the end, Just do the Holy trinity:

Fate stay/night
Tsukihime (VN, for the love of god)
Kara no Kyoukai

then Hollow ataraxia.


Plus Witch on the Holy Night when it's fully translated ;;
Nov 19, 2014 7:55 PM
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Plus Witch on the Holy Night when it's fully translated ;;


aaaaand now i'm crying again. Thanks bro.
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I've been watching lets plays of fate hollow. It's like a sitcom I can just watch bits of pieces and it's still hilarious.

Oddly enough I've never touched Kara No Kyoukai or Tsukihime, but I really want to see Mahoyo translated.
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Nov 19, 2014 8:27 PM

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dorne said:
I've been watching lets plays of fate hollow. It's like a sitcom I can just watch bits of pieces and it's still hilarious.

Oddly enough I've never touched Kara No Kyoukai or Tsukihime, but I really want to see Mahoyo translated.


KnK and Tsukihime are both worth the time imo.
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Avoid FSN Manga
Avoid DEENFSN2006
Avoid DEENFSN2010
Avoid non-existent Tsukihime adaptation.

Ataraxia is good after FSN.
Zero is good after FSN.
Prisma Illya is great after Zero and Ataraxia
Apocrypha is great
Tsukihime is great anytime
KNK is great any time.
Fate/Extra is great after FSN.


chickenonthepan said:
Qans said:

Is it really necessary to though? Like i know Fate/kaleid liner prisma ilya has nothing to do with the real story and is just a spinoff, so was wondering if the others are all like that as well. I dont really wanna watch/read something not essential to the main storyline of fate


No, not necessary. They are really good on their own. So if you really love Fate, you should watch/play them all.

The only sequel to FSN is Hollow Ataraxia. And FZ is the prequel. But both of these should be played/watched after you finish FSN VN.


Ataraxia is not FSN sequel. It happens AFTER FSN, but is not "Fsn sequel".

KLP is not a "spin off sidestory", no more than anything else in the multiverse.
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Actually, the Fate/zero manga is quite good the drawings get better after the first volume and it's pretty faithful with the novel, there is much more content than the anime adaptation. (i don't really know why it's so much underrated...)
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Also to add - there's no "Main" FSN story.
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is the translation of FHA actually finished ? i saw it was still in beta and that they were doing plenty of correction on it...
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CookingPriest said:

Ataraxia is not FSN sequel. It happens AFTER FSN, but is not "Fsn sequel".


I think it's kind of a "sequel" because we get hints of what happens after the FSN endings.

But yeah, my bad.
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Qans said:

Is it really necessary to though? Like i know Fate/kaleid liner prisma ilya has nothing to do with the real story and is just a spinoff, so was wondering if the others are all like that as well. I dont really wanna watch/read something not essential to the main storyline of fate

Oh you'd be surprised, considering what's happening in 3rei manga right now. It might not be important for Stay night but it really has some interesting implications for the extended nasuverse.
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Carnival Phantasm was hilarious
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chickenonthepan said:
CookingPriest said:

Ataraxia is not FSN sequel. It happens AFTER FSN, but is not "Fsn sequel".


I think it's kind of a "sequel" because we get hints of what happens after the FSN endings.

But yeah, my bad.


Let's just say it happens after the FSN timelines, so it's next chronologically but not a "sequel." Speaking of next in the timeline kagetsu tohya should kinda be on this list since it's a follow up to tsukihime.
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kingcity20 said:
chickenonthepan said:


I think it's kind of a "sequel" because we get hints of what happens after the FSN endings.

But yeah, my bad.


Let's just say it happens after the FSN timelines, so it's next chronologically but not a "sequel." Speaking of next in the timeline kagetsu tohya should kinda be on this list since it's a follow up to tsukihime.


A lot of Kagetsu Tohya is kind of weird most of the scenes have no relation to the actual story. I think the only scene that is a direct continuation so far (I'm a bit over half way done) is the one that builds off of Akiha's True end
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nocorras said:
kingcity20 said:


Let's just say it happens after the FSN timelines, so it's next chronologically but not a "sequel." Speaking of next in the timeline kagetsu tohya should kinda be on this list since it's a follow up to tsukihime.


A lot of Kagetsu Tohya is kind of weird most of the scenes have no relation to the actual story. I think the only scene that is a direct continuation so far (I'm a bit over half way done) is the one that builds off of Akiha's True end


Kinda the same way with Hollow Ataraxia, Although there is a really good storyline with Shirou, Caren, Bazzet, and Avenger. The rest of the story is pretty much everyone just dicking around. It's pretty damn hilarious though so it doesn't really take anything away from it.
shinji and shirou reading sakura's diary, Kaleido Ruby... etc etc etc
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What's wrong with FSN and FZ manga? lol
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What's wrong with FSN and FZ manga? lol


I've heard the FSN one is pretty terrible, like worse than DEEN terrible, but the F/Z one is ok
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nocorras said:
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What's wrong with FSN and FZ manga? lol


I've heard the FSN one is pretty terrible, like worse than DEEN terrible, but the F/Z one is ok


Still not worth wasting your time on it. Just read the Light novel and watch the anime.

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chickenonthepan said:
nocorras said:


I've heard the FSN one is pretty terrible, like worse than DEEN terrible, but the F/Z one is ok


Still not worth wasting your time on it. Just read the Light novel and watch the anime.



Pretty much my thoughts.
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I heard that the Tsukihime manga was a solid adaptation. Is this true?
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toyall123 said:
I heard that the Tsukihime manga was a solid adaptation. Is this true?


Yes, it's pretty solid. Arcueid route with some mixtures from Ciel route. It's worth seeing.

Better than Twilight
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toyall123 said:
I heard that the Tsukihime manga was a solid adaptation. Is this true?


I've heard it's good. The two routes it pulls from do not go deep into the whole story since there are 3 more routes that give more overall information.
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Yeah I read it, it was pretty good and at the time I didn't know shit about Tsukihime, but I still understood the entire story.


There's still some tears and twists left. T.T
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nocorras said:
RinPriest said:
Yeah I read it, it was pretty good and at the time I didn't know shit about Tsukihime, but I still understood the entire story.


There's still some tears and twists left. T.T

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RinPriest said:






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So many spoliers. Must not click ,only read manga.
Knk is by far my favorite type-moon work.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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So many spoliers. Must not click ,only read manga.
Knk is by far my favorite type-moon work.


Yeah that was a top secret conversation, it basically unveils the whole underlying plot of the Tsukihime VN.

Avoid at all costs.
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Anyone who claims prillya is "Just a spin off" clearly has no idea what the fuck is going on.
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Anyone who claims prillya is "Just a spin off" clearly has no idea what the fuck is going on.
Spin off does not make it not canon does it?

*Goes back to reading 3rei*
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Anyone who claims prillya is "Just a spin off" clearly has no idea what the fuck is going on.
Spin off does not make it not canon does it?

*Goes back to reading 3rei*


the idea of "spin off' is defeated by concept of multiverse anyway.
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CookingPriest said:
BotatoPriest said:
Spin off does not make it not canon does it?

*Goes back to reading 3rei*


the idea of "spin off' is defeated by concept of multiverse anyway.


Yup once a work joins the multiverse, it can no longer be a spinoff
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Well it depends,even among the fanbase people do consider FSN and FZ the MAIN and ORIGINAL storyline.Everything else is a spin off but equally canon with FSN and FZ.
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Well it depends,even among the fanbase people do consider FSN and FZ the MAIN and ORIGINAL storyline.Everything else is a spin off but equally canon with FSN and FZ.


Isn't that sort of hypocritical?

I mean even FSN are three storylines that in no way can be connected.
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CookingPriest said:
FakePriest said:
Well it depends,even among the fanbase people do consider FSN and FZ the MAIN and ORIGINAL storyline.Everything else is a spin off but equally canon with FSN and FZ.


Isn't that sort of hypocritical?

I mean even FSN are three storylines that in no way can be connected.
Okay..wrong choice of words...MAIN SERIES.
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FakePriest said:
CookingPriest said:


Isn't that sort of hypocritical?

I mean even FSN are three storylines that in no way can be connected.
Okay..wrong choice of words...MAIN SERIES.


You mean Nasuverse?

Oh wait, that includes everything :E

Because if FSN is "main series" then stuff like Tsukihime or KNK are not?

Hence why I cringe everytime someone asks about "main story" or "canon series" in nasuverse.
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CookingPriest said:
FakePriest said:
Okay..wrong choice of words...MAIN SERIES.


You mean Nasuverse?

Oh wait, that includes everything :E

Because if FSN is "main series" then stuff like Tsukihime or KNK are not?

Hence why I cringe everytime someone asks about "main story" or "canon series" in nasuverse.


Fake probably wanted to say that F/SN and F/Z are Fate/ "core", as if everything else Fate/ related builds off the information established in them.

At least that's my interpretation.
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FakePriest said:
CookingPriest said:


Isn't that sort of hypocritical?

I mean even FSN are three storylines that in no way can be connected.
Okay..wrong choice of words...MAIN SERIES.


But is FSN even the Main Series in the Nasuverse? Tsukihime came first, Kara No Kyoukai expanded on a different direction of the multiverse, then FSN came and built on the success of both those novels. If Anything Mahoyo would be the main series since it is the original Idea that everything else is built around as well as it digs in deeper to the overall world that they all fall into.
That's why you kind of can't put anything into the Main Series catagory.
If FSN was alone and there were no connections with the rest of the universe other than simple nods then that might be possible, but the fact that the entire fsn world is just a piece of the bigger puzzle and there are so many branching paths. It can no longer be called THE main series.
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^The order is actually Mahoyo, KNK, Tsukihime, Fate, I think.
To clarify, Mahoyo was written but never published in 96 or so.
Then KNK was released as single chapters from '98 on, though was only published properly in 2004 or so.
Tsukihime, 2000. (?)
F/SN, 2004.
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