WrongPriest said: Grey-Zone said: Wow, #14 with 8.88 not bad. How is that even possible? It isn't even good yet. That's actually kind of annoying. It will fall Its Hype and false belief that its Zero Sequel In second cour we will have SAO/Code Geass level of hatefests(because lolUBW is not in a least about the war itself or zero events). |
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WrongPriest said: CookingPriest said: It will fall Its Hype and false belief that its Zero Sequel In second cour we will have SAO/Code Geass level of hatefests(because lolUBW is not in a least about the war itself or zero events). It's interesting seeing people in episode discussion comment on how they're enjoying this more than F/0, which is something i can't fathom myself since everything remarkable so far has been Fights or foreshadowing. Zero beginning was VERY frantic for secondaries. This takes time to explain what the fuck is going on and show characters doing shit. Zero without FSN knowledge is more of a typical battle royal, ala mirai niki and other of that kind. FSN takes time to establish the world they are in. And fights are not slowed down unlike Zero. |
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| You did NOT just compare F/Z to Mirai Shitty Nikki. This means war m8. |
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BotatoPriest said: You did NOT just compare F/Z to Mirai Shitty Nikki. This means war m8. I liked Mirai Nikki comeatmebro |
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| Mirai Nikki is good if you like Yuno. Otherwise it's average. And the battle royal sucked, it felt like it was just an excuse for the author to have people threaten Yukiteru which gives Yuno full license to go ape shit yandere mode on them. That would be fine, if Yuno wasn't so unlikable -_- |
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BotatoPriest said: Mirai Nikki is "good" because Uryuu Minene Fixed. |
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| I liked MN because of all the fucked-up-ness of ALL characters and completely unhealthy relationships that would spawn. Itachi92 said: BotatoPriest said: Mirai Nikki is "good" because Uryuu Minene Fixed. Also this. |
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| If that was the terrorist with the eyepatch, aka Revy clone, then I approve. |
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| Hahaha Nakata Jouji you legend! I just went through my collection and found his only other role as dignified and fear inspiring as Kirei. Totally forgot he was Paya! XD |
| DIdn't you hear it guyse? Fate is a "rip off of Pokemon and Zatch Bell" because you "summon stuff to fight other stuff"!!11oneone |
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WrongPriest said: Hahaha Nakata Jouji you legend! I just went through my collection and found his only other role as dignified and fear inspiring as Kirei. Totally forgot he was Paya! XD This is probably a joke, but just in case, his work in Hellsing Ultimate was great. It also has Wakamoto hamming it up. |
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CookingPriest said: WrongPriest said: How is that even possible? It isn't even good yet. That's actually kind of annoying. It will fall Its Hype and false belief that its Zero Sequel In second cour we will have SAO/Code Geass level of hatefests(because lolUBW is not in a least about the war itself or zero events). So what is the sequel of FZ? |
insan3priest said: WrongPriest said: Hahaha Nakata Jouji you legend! I just went through my collection and found his only other role as dignified and fear inspiring as Kirei. Totally forgot he was Paya! XD This is probably a joke, but just in case, his work in Hellsing Ultimate was great. It also has Wakamoto hamming it up. Yeah but everyone knows his work on Hellsing, I didn't realize he was my nigga Paya when i watched Puni ages ago XD |
guy1: zero= mature masters from all around the world , who know why they are fighting for the grial. SN= basically teen masters , half of them go to the same school and aparently they dont know why they are fighting . guy2: They know why they are fighting. Most of them are in their teens, but they don't manage to screw things up as much as the adults, so that should tell you something. guy1: that tell me they are moralist teen fags that dont want to kill anybody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRL3taKTYv4 I can't. I just can't. God, youtube is just awful, why am I still reading the comments? |
CorePriest said: I like that dailyos guy.guy1: zero= mature masters from all around the world , who know why they are fighting for the grial. SN= basically teen masters , half of them go to the same school and aparently they dont know why they are fighting . guy2: They know why they are fighting. Most of them are in their teens, but they don't manage to screw things up as much as the adults, so that should tell you something. guy1: that tell me they are moralist teen fags that dont want to kill anybody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRL3taKTYv4 I can't. I just can't. God, youtube is just awful, why am I still reading the comments? |
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CorePriest said: guy1: zero= mature masters from all around the world , who know why they are fighting for the grial. SN= basically teen masters , half of them go to the same school and aparently they dont know why they are fighting . guy2: They know why they are fighting. Most of them are in their teens, but they don't manage to screw things up as much as the adults, so that should tell you something. guy1: that tell me they are moralist teen fags that dont want to kill anybody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRL3taKTYv4 I can't. I just can't. God, youtube is just awful, why am I still reading the comments? Gah, I have to stop opening those videos, because I find stuff like this: honestly I think everyone can agree that kiritsugu is a better character then shiro by a long shot And that comes from the guy who claims that he read VN... |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Aurioch said: CorePriest said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRL3taKTYv4 I can't. I just can't. God, youtube is just awful, why am I still reading the comments? Gah, I have to stop opening those videos, because I find stuff like this: honestly I think everyone can agree that kiritsugu is a better character then shiro by a long shot And that comes from the guy who claims that he read VN... You speak as if the opinions of such mongrels ever mattered.  |
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| Saw that post a few days ago, but it seems too much like a bait for me to care. He posted it on like 3 different comments at least, kind of obv |
| Hell even our discussion thread here is not exempt. Newest post is all about how much they are going to miss kerry and how boring shirou is in comparison :3 |
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CookingPriest said: Hell even our discussion thread here is not exempt. Newest post is all about how much they are going to miss kerry and how boring shirou is in comparison :3 I wanted to ask them if they found Kiritsugu interesting in the first four episodes, but figured it would be a bad idea. |
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WrongPriest said: So I woke up and there was a comprehensive episode 4 review on MAL. Apparently UBW isn't going to surpass it's fundamental flaws, what do you guys think? Poor stereotypical Shirou. Well, that guy should be very pleasantly surprised. This is also why you shouldn't make assumptions. |
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insan3priest said: WrongPriest said: So I woke up and there was a comprehensive episode 4 review on MAL. Apparently UBW isn't going to surpass it's fundamental flaws, what do you guys think? Poor stereotypical Shirou. Well, that guy should be very pleasantly surprised. This is also why you shouldn't make assumptions. It really does get a little annoying when people give the "guilty until proven innocent" treatment, but I suppose we'll have to bear with it for now. |
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WrongPriest said: So I woke up and there was a comprehensive episode 4 review on MAL. Apparently UBW isn't going to surpass it's fundamental flaws, what do you guys think? Poor stereotypical Shirou. Edit* Actually this part is my favourite Again, someone comparing 4 episodes of UBW (+filling gaps with DEENight...) with 2 cours of Fate/Zero... The result is obvious, as is the DEEN poisoning, but I'd really love to see that reviewer's reaction, when the "prediction" about Saber turns out to be false. I think I awakened to the priesthood, due to all those delusional NaruSaku shippers lately. It reminds me why I make sure not to be a shipper. |
Grey-ZoneNov 7, 2014 5:26 PM
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| That review reminds me of this comment I saw on youtube of some guy already proclaiming the new show to be a massive step down from Fate/Zero. For fuck sakes, only 5 episodes have been released. for all intents and purposes, nothing has actually happened compared to the shit storm of events to come. |
Aurioch said: But did he lie?CorePriest said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRL3taKTYv4 I can't. I just can't. God, youtube is just awful, why am I still reading the comments? Gah, I have to stop opening those videos, because I find stuff like this: honestly I think everyone can agree that kiritsugu is a better character then shiro by a long shot And that comes from the guy who claims that he read VN... |
WrongPriest said: To be fair Shirou was terribly annoying until Heavens Feel. His plot armor only makes him worse, I also prefer Kiritsuguamare135 said: Lie? No.But did he lie? Misinformed? Horribly so. |
amare135 said: To be fair Shirou was terribly annoying until Heavens Feel. His plot armor only makes him worse, I also prefer Kiritsugu How does he have plot armor? He dies or otherwise loses in like 41 out of 45 scenarios in the VN. And they're all canon because multiverse jibberjab. |
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| I wouldn't actually mind a mini-series of OVAs for the most iconic bad ends. |
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WrongPriest said: So I woke up and there was a comprehensive episode 4 review on MAL. Apparently UBW isn't going to surpass it's fundamental flaws, what do you guys think? Poor stereotypical Shirou. Edit* Actually this part is my favourite [/spoiler] I think the reason me among others loved Fate Zero was because the protagonist (Emiya Kiritsuku) was very complex and his relentlessness and moral ambiguity used to achieve his goals (explored wonderfully in the episode "The End of Honor") Made him a very intriguing and tragic antihero to follow. His character juxtaposed his adopted son's well and was basically a big "fuck you" to the narrow minded justice loving shirou of the original fate. [/spoiler]Emiya Shirou however is as predictable as they come, and this lifts a lot of the mystery, mystique, and suspense present in Fate Zero. HOLY SHIT AHAHAHA. Part of me hopes the person will realize he/she is wrong. The cynical part knows that the person will cling to that position till the very end ignoring the facts (hell I have seen it with this episode already with people claiming "There's no development for Shirou beyond being selfless) |
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RinPriest said: People forget how low the chances for Shirou to get any ending where he doesn't horribly die or gets fucked up is if they don't play the VN. Now Ufotable COULD animate all the 41 bad endings but that would be a rather big waste of time, so I don't really care. But Shirou having plot armor, really? The bad endings doesn't count outside the VN, and it's a bad end because you made an incorrect choice, it's our fault not his (?). But, what plot armor he has? Tomorrow everybody will see him fighting Rider, is the eye of the mind plot armor? or Avalon? or his natural swords? Justified. |
amare135 said: WrongPriest said: To be fair Shirou was terribly annoying until Heavens Feel. His plot armor only makes him worse, I also prefer KiritsuguLie? No. Misinformed? Horribly so. >Plot armour Okay then, let's do the math here. In the Fate route, there are 14 Dead/Bad Ends, and Shirou dies horribly in all of them (or is turned into a living puppet by Illya forever). If we add the actual ending of the route, then that makes that he has only a 1/15 chance of making it through the Holy Grail War alive there. In the Unlimited Blade Works route, there are ten Dead/Bad Ends. Shirou dies horribly in a lot of them except for one, where Rin wipes his memories so he can continue to live a peaceful life, but that's still a dead end wherein plot armour didn't save him. So it's only in the True End and Good End that he makes it through, giving him a 1/6 chance of living. Much higher than Fate, surprisingly enough, but still low by human standards. And in Heaven's Feel, there are a lovely 16 Dead or Bad Ends. Shirou either ends up in a coma, dies or eternally suffers in them, and heck, he even dies in the Normal End too. I'm not sure what to think of the Mind of Steel ending, but I'll consider it as a dead end simply because the 'Shirou' we know ceases to be, and the story doesn't show the conclusion of that path for a reason. Thus, the only one where he makes it out alive is the True End...and even then, he had to be given a new body by Illya. On his own, he would've certainly died. Hence, Shirou has a lovely 1/18 chance of living in HF. Isn't that wonderful? So much for plot armour. |
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KeyToCourage said: The bad endings doesn't count outside the VN, and it's a bad end because you made an incorrect choice, it's our fault not his (?). Well, Nasuverse is a giant multiverse where any and every possibility is technically canon because it has happened in at least one dimension. An end where he lives happily ever after is technically just as canon as an end where he dies a slow and agonizing death. |
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RinPriest said: WrongPriest said: Nasuverse has canon Vampires, demons, dragons, zombie vampires, assassin priests, legal lolis, not legal lolis, cat girls, magical girls, fox girls, dick girls, girls that are not girls, every cool hero backstory ever told with magic, every brutal end you can think of and motherfucking Merlin. These things make nasuverse best universe, feel free to make additions. You forgot magical powered lolis that can travel through parallel universes. Don't forget the aliens, and the guys with their planet consuming swords. |
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MercifulPriest said: >Plot armour Okay then, let's do the math here. In the Fate route, there are 14 Dead/Bad Ends, and Shirou dies horribly in all of them (or is turned into a living puppet by Illya forever). If we add the actual ending of the route, then that makes that he has only a 1/15 chance of making it through the Holy Grail War alive there. In the Unlimited Blade Works route, there are ten Dead/Bad Ends. Shirou dies horribly in a lot of them except for one, where Rin wipes his memories so he can continue to live a peaceful life, but that's still a dead end wherein plot armour didn't save him. So it's only in the True End and Good End that he makes it through, giving him a 1/6 chance of living. Much higher than Fate, surprisingly enough, but still low by human standards. And in Heaven's Feel, there are a lovely 16 Dead or Bad Ends. Shirou either ends up in a coma, dies or eternally suffers in them, and heck, he even dies in the Normal End too. I'm not sure what to think of the Mind of Steel ending, but I'll consider it as a dead end simply because the 'Shirou' we know ceases to be, and the story doesn't show the conclusion of that path for a reason. Thus, the only one where he makes it out alive is the True End...and even then, he had to be given a new body by Illya. On his own, he would've certainly died. Hence, Shirou has a lovely 1/18 chance of living in HF. Isn't that wonderful? So much for plot armour. Did you also count the "compensation for pride" bad ending in Fate route, where you refuse to cooperate with Rin? |
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| How does that Compensation for Pride bad ending go in Fate? I did the part where Shirou turns Rin down in Heaven's Feel and got curious as to how it goes if you do the same in Fate. |
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insan3priest said: How does that Compensation for Pride bad ending go in Fate? I did the part where Shirou turns Rin down in Heaven's Feel and got curious as to how it goes if you do the same in Fate. You are thrown into the UBW route, only you cannot avoid Rin's Gandr when she confronts you in school. |
CorePriest said: You are thrown into the UBW route, only you cannot avoid Rin's Gandr when she confronts you in school. Isn't that because he did not absorb the first part of Archer's skills because he was not present against Berserker? Then... Plot-hole in DEENime detected? As there the "battle" between Shirou and Rin is shown but he is actually able to dodge as in UBW? |
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Grey-Zone said: Plot-hole in DEENime? Plot-hole DEENime?  |
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Grey-Zone said: CorePriest said: You are thrown into the UBW route, only you cannot avoid Rin's Gandr when she confronts you in school. Isn't that because he did not absorb the first part of Archer's skills because he was not present against Berserker? Then... Plot-hole in DEENime detected? As there the "battle" between Shirou and Rin is shown but he is actually able to dodge as in UBW? Uh... what? No, he just goes for the stairs in that Bad End because game mechanics. And I'll just disregard DEEN's version, because this wasn't supposed to happen in Fate. |
RinPriest said: Can we pretend DEENight doesn't exist? Please? It's the only Fate adaptation though. |
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RinPriest said: Don't bother with that guy, he gave FMA a 6/10 so I don't even believe he is being serious but just making reviews to piss people off. I already explained Shirou's development in routes to him and he took the review down, so I think he understands now. |
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GoS1234 said: RinPriest said: Don't bother with that guy, he gave FMA a 6/10 so I don't even believe he is being serious but just making reviews to piss people off. I already explained Shirou's development in routes to him and he took the review down, so I think he understands now.  |
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