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Jun 20, 2014 10:18 AM

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Regardless the Fate Series is pretty poorly done i really hated Zero
Jun 20, 2014 10:24 AM

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I believe it might make it, I have really high expectations on this, that's the intention ufotable left to me so why not. Also we've been begging for a decent adaption since the crappy DEEN version came out so I guess it will go on well. Also I wonder how they will do things, I mean 1 season per route? 1st the Fate route, 2nd the Unlimited Blade Works route and finally the Heaven's Feel route which I've been waiting for years to be animated....
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Jun 20, 2014 10:30 AM

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not a chance
Jun 20, 2014 10:31 AM

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Toothless_Snake said:
Regardless the Fate Series is pretty poorly done i really hated Zero
Uhmmm so because you hated it it's poorly made, and thus will not be in top ranking?
Sorry but F/Z is in top 30 and I'm pretty sure it got too much hate because of Urobutcher. Assuming Ufo makes F/SN much better than they made Zero then it has a good chance of getting top 30 or even top 20 easily.
Jun 20, 2014 10:34 AM

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a few things about it that no one ever mentions about it is the characters and story. Characters are dull and the story is really what you would expect the animation is alright but nothing to special it's really the impression i got from Fate Zero i have no idea how it got so high up there when these are some very clear issues. If i compared this show to lets say Baccano there would be no way the characters and story would come close.
Jun 20, 2014 10:34 AM

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like i mentioned in the other post its why i think about the show do not attack me for saying what i think.
Jun 20, 2014 10:40 AM

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Toothless_Snake said:
a few things about it that no one ever mentions about it is the characters and story. Characters are dull and the story is really what you would expect the animation is alright but nothing to special it's really the impression i got from Fate Zero i have no idea how it got so high up there when these are some very clear issues. If i compared this show to lets say Baccano there would be no way the characters and story would come close.
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like i mentioned in the other post its why i think about the show do not attack me for saying what i think.
Uhmm.. But that's not how things work. For starters, why not point out those "issues?"
Jun 20, 2014 12:02 PM

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Toothless_Snake said:
a few things about it that no one ever mentions about it is the characters and story. Characters are dull and the story is really what you would expect the animation is alright but nothing to special it's really the impression i got from Fate Zero i have no idea how it got so high up there when these are some very clear issues. If i compared this show to lets say Baccano there would be no way the characters and story would come close.
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like i mentioned in the other post its why i think about the show do not attack me for saying what i think.

First off, if you're going to make bold statements, on the Fate forums no less, you better be able to stand your ground like a man instead of hiding behind your "I-It's my opinion so don't attack me!" shield. And yes, I would also like to hear these "issues." Just saying "thing is bad" will not automatically prove that thing really is bad. If these "issues" are those weak links you mentioned, I'll go head and try for a rebuttal, even if most of what you said is subjective.

The characters are hardly dull, especially when you take into account the situation they're in. They're in a war where any of them could die at any point, so of course they're not going to be happy-go-lucky or energetic like Isaac & Miria from Baccano!, they're going to be calculating and scheming to win. But even still, the differences in personality are very apparent, the motivations are clear, etc. The story is straight-forward, not convoluted, and is written with care and detail as it connects itself to the Fate/stay night VN. I'm not sure why "being what you would expect" would even be a bad thing in the first place, considering events are heavily foreshadowed and/or hinted to, the characters' personalities and motivations allow you to know what they're prone to doing to affect the story, etc. The animation is crisp and solid, so I don't know what you're talking about there.
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Jun 20, 2014 1:02 PM

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Damn it...look what I missed.

And fall is still far away...I cant imagine how dull and bad the chars and story will be then. Subjectively ofc....Unless if ufo actually screws up and this "criticism" is correct.
Jun 20, 2014 2:57 PM

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Only way it makes it into the top 5 is if the unannounced route is Fate/Gintama.
Jun 20, 2014 7:20 PM

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antonn said:
Only way it makes it into the top 5 is if the unannounced route is Fate/Gintama.


Would buy/watch.
Jun 20, 2014 8:37 PM

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[quote=C-Core]What ssjokg said. You misunderstood what I was saying, damastah. I never said HF combined Fate and UBW.[/quote
Yep as soon as ssjokg said 'Ilya and Sakura' route I knew I misunderstood lol *peace]
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antonn said:
Only way it makes it into the top 5 is if the unannounced route is Fate/Gintama.

Not enough 4th wall breaking.Throw in Deadpool.
Jun 20, 2014 9:31 PM

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Lol, way to start raising the hype to unreasonable levels several months in advance
The fate of destruction is also the joy of rebirth
Jun 20, 2014 9:46 PM

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ssjokg said:
antonn said:
Only way it makes it into the top 5 is if the unannounced route is Fate/Gintama.

Not enough 4th wall breaking.Throw in Deadpool.
And Sonic the Hedgehog.

Link_of_Hyrule said:
Lol, way to start raising the hype to unreasonable levels several months in advance
This thread probably lowered the hype levels.
Jun 20, 2014 9:49 PM

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Botato said:
ssjokg said:

Not enough 4th wall breaking.Throw in Deadpool.
And Sonic the Hedgehog.

Link_of_Hyrule said:
Lol, way to start raising the hype to unreasonable levels several months in advance
This thread probably lowered the hype levels.

I only watched Sonic when I was, like 5.He had such "abilities"?
Jun 20, 2014 10:26 PM

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ssjokg said:
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And Sonic the Hedgehog.

I only watched Sonic when I was, like 5.He had such "abilities"?
Well it depends on what you mean by "abilities" and where Dragon Balls Chaos Emeralds and going Super Sayian Sonic fit here.
Also the Sonic fandom is huge which would guarantee a spot in the top 10
But hey, there's always Shadow the Hedgehog too.
Jun 20, 2014 10:35 PM

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I'm honestly not overly hyped. I mean, I'm looking forward to this of course. But, shows like HxH and Jojo have more than held my interest until it comes out.
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Jun 21, 2014 5:59 AM

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55-70 with luck
Jun 25, 2014 3:03 PM

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Well NGNL sits on rank #22 now (won't be for long though probably) so I'm actually expecting this to get into top 20 now.
Jun 25, 2014 6:28 PM

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Forgetfulness said:
R- said:
55-70 with luck
Nah, I'm fairly certain it will at least reach the level of Fate/Zero, which is higher than that

Dunno. FSN doesn't have Rider, King of Bros for people to hitch their bandwagon to.
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I wonder how people will take to Shirou this time around, even in the visual novel he has his detractors. But, I think he's a much better character there than in the Deen anime and I'd like to see that captured in ufotable's adaptation.

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Forgetfulness said:
Nah, I'm fairly certain it will at least reach the level of Fate/Zero, which is higher than that

Dunno. FSN doesn't have Rider, King of Bros for people to hitch their bandwagon to.


Archer, perhaps? He's not quite a bro, but he's always been pretty well regarded. Which is ironic considering his back story.
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Jun 25, 2014 6:47 PM

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Well he is the male mascot of TM and the character behind the creation of the word GAR.

And you dont need a backstory when you can look cool and/or bro like Alexander.
Jun 25, 2014 6:55 PM

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I didn't know that. I mean, I've heard him referred as GARcher and all but I didn't know he was the one the word it was originally created for.
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Jun 26, 2014 1:34 AM

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insan3Spectre said:
I didn't know that. I mean, I've heard him referred as GARcher and all but I didn't know he was the one the word it was originally created for.


Its a 4chan misstype of someone saying they would go gay for archer.
Jun 26, 2014 1:48 AM

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Well, that's something I did not know...
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Jun 26, 2014 2:40 AM

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http://i33.tinypic.com/2v0inx5.png

The (totally non-serious) history of the word GAR.
Jun 26, 2014 10:33 AM

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insan3Spectre said:
I wonder how people will take to Shirou this time around, even in the visual novel he has his detractors. But, I think he's a much better character there than in the Deen anime and I'd like to see that captured in ufotable's adaptation.

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Dunno. FSN doesn't have Rider, King of Bros for people to hitch their bandwagon to.


Archer, perhaps? He's not quite a bro, but he's always been pretty well regarded. Which is ironic considering his back story.



And you dont need a backstory when you can look cool and/or bro like Alexander.[/quote]

If popularity would be = with GARness, then I'd say F/sn has already won.
Kirei, Cu Chulainn, Archer and Shirou (depends on the route) take this easily.
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Jun 26, 2014 11:02 AM

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ssjokg said:
You forgot Berserker.
That beast?
._.
Jun 26, 2014 11:09 AM

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Botato said:
ssjokg said:
You forgot Berserker.
That beast?
._.
Still more manly than most characters in anime.
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ssjokg said:
You forgot Berserker.


How could I? :O

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ssjokg said:
You forgot Berserker.
That beast?
._.


"You're strong Berserker."
Jun 26, 2014 11:16 AM

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ssjokg said:
You forgot Berserker.

Which one are you talking about ?
Lancelot or Hercules?
In my opinion Lancelot was way more cooler. Hercules was just a piece of meat that you prepared for a barbecue but it takes longer than expected , 12 times longer to be precise.

I'd be more hyped if it were F/Z and not F/SN.
F/SN turned into a generic male protects female. The combat in F/SN pales in comparison to F/Z.
In other words......F/SN is nothing more but a generic "I will protect everybody" that is found in all nowadays anime.
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Jun 26, 2014 11:24 AM

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FluffyFlesh said:
ssjokg said:
You forgot Berserker.

Which one are you talking about ?
Lancelot or Hercules?
In my opinion Lancelot was way more cooler. Hercules was just a piece of meat that you prepared for a barbecue but it takes longer than expected , 12 times longer to be precise.

I'd be more hyped if it were F/Z and not F/SN.
F/SN turned into a generic male protects female. The combat in F/SN pales in comparison to F/Z.
In other words......F/SN is nothing more but a generic "I will protect everybody" that is found in all nowadays anime.


Lancelot is one of my favorite Servants, but I wouldn't call him GAR.
Hercules on the other hand.....
Jun 26, 2014 11:26 AM

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FluffyFlesh said:

I'd be more hyped if it were F/Z and not F/SN.
F/SN turned into a generic male protects female. The combat in F/SN pales in comparison to F/Z.
In other words......F/SN is nothing more but a generic "I will protect everybody" that is found in all nowadays anime.


Jesus Christ...
Jun 26, 2014 11:29 AM

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FluffyFlesh said:

I'd be more hyped if it were F/Z and not F/SN.
F/SN turned into a generic male protects female. The combat in F/SN pales in comparison to F/Z.
In other words......F/SN is nothing more but a generic "I will protect everybody" that is found in all nowadays anime.


Jesus Christ...


Ignore it, it's just another bait.
Jun 26, 2014 11:32 AM

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Emm no?
They only cool thing about Lancy is his armor and dark aura.

Hercules could wreck everyone except Gil in both wars, and even with his mad enchantment he did everything he could to protect Ilya, even when he was blind.[spoiler]And he recognized Archer as an opponent he would love to fight again is he was normal and he broke Enkidu by using only his strength.

Lancy was running around screaming Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrthuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur and needed command spells to listen to Kariya.

The only real battles in fz are lancer vs saber, gil vs berserker and Kirei vs Kiritsugu.
And only Kirei vs Kiritsugu is close to Lancer vs Archer, Archer vs Shirou, Gil vs Shirou, Vs Alter, Sparks liner high and others.

And how is it generic male protects female when thst happens only in
the first part of Fate route?

Wasnt Kiritsugu also fighting to protect everyone after the war?
Jun 26, 2014 11:38 AM

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ssjokg said:
Emm no?
They only cool thing about Lancy is his armor and dark aura.



Nah...
Knight of Honor enabled him to do some crazy stuff.
You have to give him that.
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HeisenDurden said:
ssjokg said:
Emm no?
They only cool thing about Lancy is his armor and dark aura.



Nah...
Knight of Honor enabled him to do some crazy stuff.
You have to give him that.
I mean in comparison with Heracles.Nine lives(which is kinda like KoH), even if it unusable and God Hand are far better.
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ssjokg said:
HeisenDurden said:


Nah...
Knight of Honor enabled him to do some crazy stuff.
You have to give him that.
I mean in comparison with Heracles.Nine lives(which is kinda like KoH), even if it unusable and God Hand are far better.


I still prefer KoH.
As if he wasn't strong enough with God Hand, NL is just so OP, it makes me feel glad that Herc wasn't summoned as an Archer.
Jun 26, 2014 11:53 AM

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Lancelot looks cooler.
In strength Heracles (or Hercules, why are there 2 different spellings?) is a demi God so he wins by default.
F/SN Lancer > both of them though. He both looks cool and is a demi God.
Jun 26, 2014 11:59 AM

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FluffyFlesh said:
ssjokg said:
You forgot Berserker.

Which one are you talking about ?
Lancelot or Hercules?
In my opinion Lancelot was way more cooler. Hercules was just a piece of meat that you prepared for a barbecue but it takes longer than expected , 12 times longer to be precise.

I'd be more hyped if it were F/Z and not F/SN.
F/SN turned into a generic male protects female. The combat in F/SN pales in comparison to F/Z.
In other words......F/SN is nothing more but a generic "I will protect everybody" that is found in all nowadays anime.

2/10, try harder.
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Botato said:
Lancelot looks cooler.
In strength Heracles (or Hercules, why are there 2 different spellings?) is a demi God so he wins by default.
F/SN Lancer > both of them though. He both looks cool and is a demi God.
Heracles became a god....and he has the best loli and a dog....so Heracles >dog.
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ssjokg said:
Botato said:
Lancelot looks cooler.
In strength Heracles (or Hercules, why are there 2 different spellings?) is a demi God so he wins by default.
F/SN Lancer > both of them though. He both looks cool and is a demi God.
Heracles became a god....and he has the best loli and a dog....so Heracles >dog.

Hercules existence gave birth to Nine Lives Blade Works, which makes him inherently better.
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Botato said:
(...) Heracles (or Hercules, why are there 2 different spellings?) (...)


Heracles is how he was known by the Greeks. Hercules is the Roman version.
Jun 26, 2014 12:06 PM

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ssjokg said:
Botato said:
Lancelot looks cooler.
In strength Heracles (or Hercules, why are there 2 different spellings?) is a demi God so he wins by default.
F/SN Lancer > both of them though. He both looks cool and is a demi God.
Heracles became a god....and he has the best loli and a dog....so Heracles >dog.
Lancer is a great dog. He's so great we shouldn't call him a dog.


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Botato said:
(...) Heracles (or Hercules, why are there 2 different spellings?) (...)


Heracles is how he was known by the Greeks. Hercules is the Roman version.
Oh cool. Never knew that.
Jun 26, 2014 12:08 PM

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Botato said:
ssjokg said:
Heracles became a god....and he has the best loli and a dog....so Heracles >dog.
Lancer is a great dog. He's so great we shouldn't call him a dog.
Ok yeah I have nothing else to say :p
Still like him more than Heracles though
Me too but I hate to see this sub forum quiet.
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ssjokg said:
Botato said:
Lancer is a great dog. He's so great we shouldn't call him a dog.
Ok yeah I have nothing else to say :p
Still like him more than Heracles though
Me too but I hate to see this sub forum quiet.
We will be very busy when this actually gets going so no worries XD
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