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Godpower said: School Days made me feel sick... I hated that Kotonoha got such a horrible ending :( 2/10 It served its purpose then. I felt like that for most of the anime, but not the end. |
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Yandere said: I agree, early on you can't tell, but by the later episodes you can just feel that it can't end happily. At least that's how I felt. It actually ended exactly like I wanted.. I wanted Sekai to kill Makoto, because to me, she was his girlfriend more than Kotonoha or anyone else and then I also wanted Kotonoha to kill Sekai because she was such a horrible person to her. The head in the bag was a bonus, but the boat scene made me mad. It always makes me sad to think about Kotonoha off on her boat, with a decaying head of ick. Of course, I know that the way the anime went is extreme, but in the story it was necessary. I really sensed it would happen, but I suppose I didn't know TOTALLY for sure, I was just really hoping so badly that I wasn't surprised - I was more enthralled when the scene started with the phone. I was so mad at Makoto. D: It's true that it was somehow predictable that Makoto was going to die, or should i say i really hoped he would get killed. Though i first was expecting that he would be killed by kotonoha (before Sekai was ditched). didnt expect it turns out to be sekai who was the one killing makoto and that kotonoha in her turn kills sekai. kind of sad, the only one who deserves to die was makoto alone |
ad87 said: Kotonoha does not deserve to be the one in sane she doea not deserve it...... If only someone go to her rescue and pull her out of her measiry Deserve... she caused it herself. People with REAL problems might be driven insane, but Kotonoha did it herself. Her clinging to Makoto made her vulnerable to a point where she loses all rationality. I call her development: "Kotonoha evolves from spoiled princess to absolute drama queen!" |
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| I Recently just finished it but i would give it a 4/5. I thought throughout the entire thing that Katsura was just taking everything so nice like..with the cheating, ignoring her, and just all the drama. and he turned out to be some type of pimp because all of the girls wanted him.. -_- but Sekai kinda got what she deserved, and it sucks it was only 12 episodes. :< |
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| nice boat sure is nice. I finally know where the word came from, lol. |
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| Well i finshed watching this a couple of days ago, and I like to take my time with an anime like this and see what i can gather from it completly so i can write a long post about my views. Okay, so lets start with the main plot line: I pretty much hated everyone besides Setsuna and Sekai with Kotonoha pissing me off the most. A lot of the plot before the last few episodes easily made me loose intrest and we're fairly boring with little to nothing happened, really. However, the ending few episodes made me much more intrested, without dwelling too much on the other episodes before 12, they were a very good lead up, and even though i had an inkling Matoko was going to get it, i didn't think it would be from Sekai, i actually thought it would be from Kotonoha, if you remember her looking at the knifes, so it was a very effective plot twist on the director's credit. Now, seeing as we all know the story, I'll move on to the characters, well the 3 main ones most obviously. (I will also answer questions imposed by myself and i havent read the manga, or played the video games, so i dont know if they are answered in here, any information would be great, also i havent read this thread, so yes, i dont know if its already been answered) MATOKO - Our residant douche bag who doesn't know how to keep it in his pants :). Nevertheless, while he didn't have good character development, in the last few episodes I liked how he tried to set everything back to normal, However, he only does this when he finds out Sekai is pregenant, which, of course as a Sekai fan, pisses me off :P. It sucks his redemption went unoticed, but In my eyes, it was always going to happen, and while nobody deserves to die, playing with people's feelings like that shouldn't go unpunished. (esp. when he frenched Kotonoha in front of Sekai, talk about cut) KOTONOHA - The insane, impulsive chick who doesn't know enough is enough. I know many people support kotonoha and say that she should be the only one for Makoto, because she was the first one he liked, and came back to her at the end. However i feel he only goes back to Kotonoha because everyone else has ditched him and Kotonoha is so selfish that he won't let him have his child in piece (although she thinks the child doesn't exsist, which i will rebuttle later), anyway i think its her selfishness that causes all these issues and when Makoto told her that she didnt like her anymore, she should of buggered off and left -.- (or do what she did in the game in the 3rd bad ending :/) SEKAI - The one that gets all the shit at the end :(. I think she did a wrong by not expressing her love sooner, and by stealing Setsuna's love intrest before hand, but one cannot help what the heart wants. The poor girl has to see many things that Makoto does to her after he's confessed his love to her or many an occasion as well as danced with him at the folk-dance. Then as soon as Setsuna comes into play and leaves for France, he screws her off... and that really screws her up (on top of Setsuna leaving) and then when he finds out she's pregnant, it's all over for her and she has to witness various things... And then she kills Makoto, and then i was pretty happy at that point... because, though death isn't something thats good at all, its his death that was meant to solve a lot of problems - however, Kotonoha still exsists... -.- If only she Ninja-stabbed Kotonoha, i woulda been happy... but heaven forbid, she had to die :( Anyway, Kotonoha is messed up royally, i mean she cut his head off and put it in a gym bag... seriously... insane... Also, who knew Kotonoha was such a ninja, all in a matter of seconds she manages to disarm Sekai's knife and puts her Dozuki up to her throat... thats pretty nuts... -.- Also, i think, that even though Kotonoha rips open her stomach and sees nothing, she wouldn't have been pregnant for long, so the foetus wouldn't be developed... so in my eyes, i think Kotonoha has killed 2 people by killing Sekai! And one thing I don't know, what actually happens to Kotonoha on her Boat, if anyone has any inkling, it would be much appreciates. And to end my post, NICE BOAT! |
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| Good review, I like it when people put thought in their posts and don't just cling to some unreflected standards that society gives us. I just wonder how you manage to like Setsuna? I don't know anyone or ever heard a good reason to like her. I thinks she is selfish to the core, but hides it with her "sacrificing attitude" and her meddling "just to do a friend a favour". She was in love with Makoto, she wanted to be laid by him. That she covers with "if you promise me to be loyal to Sekai I will have sex with you." She didn't like Kotonoha being close to Makoto, so she tried to chase her off "for Sekai's sake". I hate how dishonest she is. While Sekai does "dishonest" things, it is obvious that she is aware of it and feels guity. Setsuna doesn't even seem to understand (or want to understand) how selfish she is and makes her selfishness look like something heroic. Rufusruferson said: KOTONOHA - The insane, impulsive chick who doesn't know enough is enough. I know many people support kotonoha and say that she should be the only one for Makoto, because she was the first one he liked, and came back to her at the end. Yeah, I wonder why so many people stick to this: "she was the first one, so she should win!!" Kids, going on a few dates doesn't mean you are married. Relationships also have trial phases and Kotonoha failed as a girlfriend, so Makoto ditched her. It is only the way HOW he ditched her, that I pity her for, nothing more. Rufusruferson said: anyway i think its her selfishness that causes all these issues and when Makoto told her that she didnt like her anymore, she should of buggered off and left -.- (or do what she did in the game in the 3rd bad ending :/) I assume you meant the 2nd ending of those posted above? Rufusruferson said: Also, i think, that even though Kotonoha rips open her stomach and sees nothing, she wouldn't have been pregnant for long, so the foetus wouldn't be developed... so in my eyes, i think Kotonoha has killed 2 people by killing Sekai! Don't forget: The Kotonoha faction (most of them at least) still believes that Sekai wasn't pregnant, cause Kotonoha would have seen the a-few-millimeters-big-embryo in this lake of blood. >_> Agree, Kotonoha killed two people and above all one of them was completely innocent. Or do Sekai haters go so far and blame the baby for what their parents did? I know the topic is long, but if the topic interests you I would still recommend to read some of the last pages. There have been interesting theories and opinions. |
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| Thank You, canis for your insight and it is much appreciated :) And yes sorry I did mean the 2nd Ending |
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Bladecatcher said: Best. Ending. Ever. I'm bumping it up a rating for that. That was truly disturbing, like everyone said. But, what's with the black blood? Are they demons? Would explain a lot actually. I almost felt bad for Makoto, when he was stabbed by Sekai (who i think should not be doing any stabbing). Almost. This episode made me think how much of a b***h Sekai was. Makoto made her and Katsura go completely crazy. When I saw Sekai opening that bag, I thought, "No way!" Katsura did a nice job. A kill that Afro Samurai would be proud of. Even though she went crazy with the whole yacht trip with the head of the ship, Makoto. Didn't think this ending would catch me off guard, but it did. Nice Afro Samurai Refrence :) lol But yeah, the whole black blood thing had to do with censorship, a day before the finale of School Days aired in Japan, a young girl killed her father halting both Higurashi and School Days - when they decided to air School Days, they censored the crap out of it, and its missing a few parts such as, the Red Blood, Makoto's head in the bag, Sound Effects, Katsura actually pulling her Dozuki from Sekai's neck, and a few minor differences other than that. Nevertheless, an uncut version does exsist as 0verflow! wanted it to still be released on the day, so for a few days they released an uncut version before it screened on TV. This uncut version can also be found on the School Days DVD (i think the box set or something... i can't remember) Or youtube, where i watched it, and, The Uncut version is like 1000x better than the censored :) |
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Bladecatcher said: That's the first thing I thought of: Afro Samurai. So the uncut version's on Youtube? Cool, I'll watch it later today. What's a dozuki? A Handsaw, the thing Kotonoha killed Sekai with :O (and chopped of what's his face's head off with, though you dont see this :( that wouldve of been awesome though... lol) |
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| Never have I seen an Anime that gets into your head and creates such attachment and yet huge amounts of resentment towards the characters. I've also never felt so depressed and sad after watching an Anime before... and i actually really liked it because of its highly impacting nature. I actually hate guys a whole lot now... and I guess I will for a while. During the entire final scene, I was disturbed, happy and my heart was actually beating pretty quickly... I decided to watch the last 9 episodes in one sitting, so I had gotten VERY wrapped up with the storyline and characters. After a while, I just really wanted Itou to get what he had coming to him. The way he did things made me actually question my own romantic interests. This is definitely one of my all time favorite Anime's. Amazing... simply amazing. I loved this Anime. |
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Bladecatcher said: Edit: Wait, there's a Kotonoha faction?^ Where do I join? Since I'm Sekai faction I don't know where the Kotonoha faction has their hideouts. ;P But seriously, I'm glad that there are so many other people beside me, who were also moved by this anime (no matter in what way). The graphics where only average and the first episodes rather boring, but I still can't get away from this anime. The ending just burned into my brain. I've rewatched the killing scenes so many times and it still gives me the chills. And no, I'm not turning into a psycho killer and do as Sekai did. Actually I think BECAUSE I saw Sekai killing Makoto, my desire to kill a certain person, who has some Makoto traits got weaker. |
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canis said: But seriously, I'm glad that there are so many other people beside me, who were also moved by this anime (no matter in what way). The graphics where only average and the first episodes rather boring, but I still can't get away from this anime. The ending just burned into my brain. I've rewatched the killing scenes so many times and it still gives me the chills. And no, I'm not turning into a psycho killer and do as Sekai did. Actually I think BECAUSE I saw Sekai killing Makoto, my desire to kill a certain person, who has some Makoto traits got weaker. I actually feel the same way. After seeing the last episode, it's been stuck in my mind since and I've watched that very last scene too many times to count. There's something about it that just makes it... I dunno... nothing's ever quite made me feel this way before and I can't quite explain it. |
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Bladecatcher said: Why is everyone homicidal in this thread? Haha, it's funny, today a girl bought in a knife which looked pretty similar to the one Sekai used. She wasn't using it for anything bad, but the ending to School Days is all I could think about. xD |
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Bladecatcher said: Why is everyone homicidal in this thread? Heh, I find myself making more jokes about killing now -.- like today there were exteremelly loud kids in the hallway, and they wouldn't shut up, so i told my friend "It's about time to go Shion on their asses" (Considering i just finshed Higurashi) But yeah, watching School Days followed by Higurashi just makes you feel like you can joke about killing more... :O |
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Bladecatcher said: But how could you support Sekai. She's partly responsible for this trainwreck. I made many long-ass posts about WHY I like Sekai and why I despise Kotonoha in this topic. If you go some pages back you might find your answer. ;) (though I understand if you are too lazy to read it all... I also wouldn't want to read so much at once XD) Rufusruferson said: Heh, I find myself making more jokes about killing now -.- like today there were exteremelly loud kids in the hallway, and they wouldn't shut up, so i told my friend "It's about time to go Shion on their asses" (Considering i just finshed Higurashi) But yeah, watching School Days followed by Higurashi just makes you feel like you can joke about killing more... :O Really? I don't think my attitude towards the topic killing changed. I guess you could call me prone to homicide if you want, though I prefer to just wish people to die instead of dirtying my hands myself. In jail I couldn't have my japanese classes and internet, so no one was worth that sacrifice yet. ;) Just in one specific case: I watched School Days to the "right" time, when I felt similar to Sekai, but like her, I couldn't "reach" the culprit with words and feelings anymore, but wanted to stop him from leaving. Sekai didn't want to kill Makoto for revenge, she wanted to stop him from leaving her. Of course that was irrational, cause a dead Makoto, even if he can't "leave" anymore, is not a very useful object of love... ^^' I, who had honestly also wished for this persons death, saw through Sekai, that I don't want to sit atop of his dead body and look into his empty eyes. And I also don't want to be murdered by one of his other girls. XD So I understood that murdering someone in ones fantasy is fine, but in reality doesn't bring the results you wanted. |
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| Take into account that Kotonoha eventually felt desperate and even told Makoto that she would let him touch her, however, Sekai had already used the 'practice' excuse for sex from him because of her feelings she was too afraid to tell him about. Obviously Makoto felt very attracted to her afterwards, even though she insisted it was 'just practice' mainly due to the guilt Sekai felt whilst engaging in these sexual acts with Makoto. The fact that Kotonoha became obsessive and eventually plunged into denial should have been bought into this. Makoto tried to make it plainly obvious that he was no longer interested, but she kept that mindset, even after seeing him and Sekai together on the rooftop and hearing about everything he was doing. Don't get me wrong, I think Makoto was completely in the wrong here, but the fact that Kotonoha refused to accept the obvious played into the eventual bloodbath that was the final scene. Sekai is mostly to blame for everything, as she opened up his sexual world during a time in which a young man is impressionable, which was very wrong, yet her feelings got in the way of perhaps logical thought. Either that, or perhaps she couldn't have foreseen the consequences of what would happen upon seducing him. She set him up with Kotonoha, she encouraged him, but in doing so, became aware of her own feelings and wanted Makoto as well. Blah, blah, blah, things happen between her and Makoto and eventually Makoto is a sexually active kid who seems to not know any better. This is just plainly obvious in the fact that he went straight back to Kotonoha upon hearing about Sekai's pregnancy, which seemed like it was 'too hard to deal with', and he knew he could always go back to Kotonoha whenever he wanted. I'll stop writing now, as I do need to get all this off my chest, however, I will say one thing about Makoto. I do despise him and he is one of the worst people, but he was not born this way, his mind was warped over the shows' timeline and was eventually created, despite the thoughts of guilt and regret he started feeling towards the end of the show. (He was a bit too late, however, as emotions had spiraled out of control.) What I'm trying to say is, that even though Makoto was a highly despicable person, he did not deserve what eventually came to him in the end. Death seems like such an extreme way to punish a person for such things, but emotions were extremely high and Sekai must have felt extreme love to have taken all her frustrations out on Makoto. I think I've lost where I was going, but I did need to unleash everything I've thought about the show, so thanks for reading all of this if you did. :) |
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neoalexys said: Makoto was a victim, the biggest victim here. You have to see his personality at the beggining of the show and HOW and WHY it was changing until the end. He got USED, he got ABUSED and his mind got MESSED up in many ways by almost all the female characters of the show. I think your thoughts go into a right direction, but maybe a bit too far. I also think that at the beginning of the show, Makoto was a really kind and shy guy. The girls around him spoiled him and so his personality changed. But the change was WAY to extreme to be just blamed on the girls. People need SOME selfcontrol, no matter how tempting the surroundings are, right? neoalexys said: He ends up being FORCED to leave the person he LOVES because he was really dependent of the sex (almost like a drug) and this was the only way he could get it. Kotonoha didn't let him touch her. He didn't look sad, being "forced" away from Kotonoha... Would you call someone who leaves the one he loves, just to dip it in somewhere else a victim? o_O This guy had a brain on his own (or should have), he wasn't raped by girls, he still decided to put sex over love. (assuming he "loved" Kotonoha, which I actually don't even agree on... to me it was more of a little crush, not love) Bladecatcher said: Oh my God, I want to be that kind of victim. Get laid by every hot girl on campus and still have people feeling sorry for me. Qftw! XD _Leviathan_ said: She set him up with Kotonoha, she encouraged him, but in doing so, became envious and wanted Makoto as well. She didn't become suddenly envious after she brought the two together, she had a crush on Makoto way before that. My theory is that she might have hoped that Kotonoha would turn down Makoto once he confesses. I remember (sorry I'm not sure if it is in the anime and the game or only in the game) that when Kotonoha told Sekai something like "Makoto confessed to me..." Sekai seemed rather calm but when Kotonoha continued "I also liked Makoto for some time now, so I was happy and accepted." Sekai startles. Or even if she expected Makoto and Kotonoha to end up as a couple, she still wanted ANY chance to spend time with Makoto and being important to him in some way. She did get his attention by helping him after all. They had their daily "Kotonoha Meetings", maybe she thought she can be content with only this kind of attention, but realized after awhile that it isn't enough. |
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canis said: She didn't become suddenly envious after she brought the two together, she had a crush on Makoto way before that. Sorry, I've got exams on right now, which means buckets of stress. Poor choice of words... you know what I meant. xD |
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_Leviathan_ said: canis said: She didn't become suddenly envious after she brought the two together, she had a crush on Makoto way before that. Sorry, I've got exams on right now, which means buckets of stress. Poor choice of words... you know what I meant. xD I see. I kinda thought that maybe you didn't mean it the way I understood it, but just to make sure I wanted to post my two cents anyway. ;D |
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| (Watched it a loooonng time ago, forgot to add it) Moh, I kind of disagree with the people saying Makoto loved Kotonoha. I don't think Makoto loved ANY of the females in the show. If he really loved Kotonoha, I doubt he would let himself be weak and start going out with another girl. If he loved her, he should've gotten over the temptation and just went with her. Did you even see him when he tried to feel her up? He got angry when she said she wasn't ready. it was like he was trying tomake her feel guilty when he was "You said you would try," or something along those lines. Makoto had the ability to say no to every girl in the school. You may say that, 'he was a teenager, he couldn't control it,' but if her really loved Kotonoha, he should've and would've waited for her to be ready. When he got Sekai, he was glad he was able to do those things with her. I really dislike it how people say that if Sekai left them alone in the end, Kotonoha and Makoto would be happy, but, lets face it: Makoto took Kotonoha back because none of the girls were willing to do it with him. When Sekai wasn't with him, Makoto didn't even turn back to Kotonoha until AFTER the girls he was sleeping with stopped because they were afraid they'd get pregnant. Anwyays, I love School Days' ending because everyone had their different opinions about it. I wish it could be a debate subject at school XD |
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| Completely agree about that Makoto didn't "love" Kotonoha; it was a crush, that's all. Just one correction: nanako9chan said: Makoto didn't even turn back to Kotonoha until AFTER the girls he was sleeping with stopped because they were afraid they'd get pregnant. The other girls didn't stop sleeping with Makoto out of fear to get pregnant, but because they knew Sekai was pregnant and so wanted Makoto to stay with her. Makoto once said to one of the girls, that in the beginning he didn't know how to use contraceptions, but now he is a pro at it. A discussion topic in school? o_O No, I think I would have hated to have this topic in school. In my school classes, most people where the kind of block-headed moral freaks who wouldn't try to understand the characters and just stick blindly to the "ideals" they were taught by society: "Makoto is evil for betraying his girlfriend and Sekai is evil for tempting him". In this forum there are at least some who can see beyond that and who you can have a good discussion with. But maybe your school is different. ;) |
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nanako9chan said: (Watched it a loooonng time ago, forgot to add it) Moh, I kind of disagree with the people saying Makoto loved Kotonoha. I don't think Makoto loved ANY of the females in the show. If he really loved Kotonoha, I doubt he would let himself be weak and start going out with another girl. If he loved her, he should've gotten over the temptation and just went with her. Did you even see him when he tried to feel her up? He got angry when she said she wasn't ready. it was like he was trying tomake her feel guilty when he was "You said you would try," or something along those lines. Makoto had the ability to say no to every girl in the school. You may say that, 'he was a teenager, he couldn't control it,' but if her really loved Kotonoha, he should've and would've waited for her to be ready. When he got Sekai, he was glad he was able to do those things with her. I really dislike it how people say that if Sekai left them alone in the end, Kotonoha and Makoto would be happy, but, lets face it: Makoto took Kotonoha back because none of the girls were willing to do it with him. When Sekai wasn't with him, Makoto didn't even turn back to Kotonoha until AFTER the girls he was sleeping with stopped because they were afraid they'd get pregnant. Anwyays, I love School Days' ending because everyone had their different opinions about it. I wish it could be a debate subject at school XD I agree 100%. |
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| Nice Boat. Ha, the first 11 episodes got the rating 1/10, and this one got 200/10 xD |
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| Death was a relieve for Sekai from her massive suffering and guilt for the murder and if she where to live, I can only imagine her going nuts and Katanoha should've died too if you ask me, better than living as a psycho.. |
foxy12 said: Death was a relieve for Sekai from her massive suffering and guilt for the murder and if she where to live, I can only imagine her going nuts and Katanoha should've died too if you ask me, better than living as a psycho.. Actually even as a Sekai fan (or maybe because of that very reason) I also thought it might have been better for her to die, cause she was really in a mess... Being pregnant from the guy she killed and committed murder at such a young age, I wonder what could have become of her... But I don't agree on the way she died... And I don't insist on that dying was the best for her, just thinking it really might have been a relieve as you said. Kotonoha might have died, we don't know. She's on that boat and might starve or something before she is found. Since I hate Kotonoha I can happily say though: She is screwed no matter if she is found or not... >_> |
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canis said: foxy12 said: Death was a relieve for Sekai from her massive suffering and guilt for the murder and if she where to live, I can only imagine her going nuts and Katanoha should've died too if you ask me, better than living as a psycho.. Actually even as a Sekai fan (or maybe because of that very reason) I also thought it might have been better for her to die, cause she was really in a mess... Being pregnant from the guy she killed and committed murder at such a young age, I wonder what could have become of her... But I don't agree on the way she died... And I don't insist on that dying was the best for her, just thinking it really might have been a relieve as you said. Kotonoha might have died, we don't know. She's on that boat and might starve or something before she is found. Since I hate Kotonoha I can happily say though: She is screwed no matter if she is found or not... >_> I'm a Sekai fan too ^ ^ but I have no problem with katanoha at all .. And yes the way she died was a bit too much if you ask me -.-..but I woudn't like it if katanoha and Mokoto ended being happy leaving sekai in her condition... Even though ,Sekai's action's were insane but I think that she was a very emotional character over all ..don't you agree ? |
foxy12 said: Even though ,Sekai's action's were insane but I think that she was a very emotional character over all ..don't you agree ? Yes, I think I also pointed out already that she is the ONLY one who ever shows regret and a sense of guilt. All characters did mistakes at some point, but Sekai is the only one who feels guilty and doesn't just blindly pursuit her own happiness. Also (after rewatching the last episode yesterday again) I think even though she killed Makoto she was still pretty "sane" compared to Kotonoha. I mean it is one thing to stab someone out of despair. But when I think of Kotonoha... What is the first thing you do when you enter your boyfriends appartement and he is dead? Call the police and stuff? No, you take a saw and chop off his head so that you can carry it around in a bag. The whole body would be too heavy, isn't it natural to take only the head? >_> (besides if she wanted to take Makotos "soul" with her, she should have cut off his thingy and carry THAT around, cause his brain resided in there not the head...) |
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selective_yellow said: zomg that boat! MOST EPIC ENDING EVER!! hell ya |
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canis said: foxy12 said: Even though ,Sekai's action's were insane but I think that she was a very emotional character over all ..don't you agree ? Yes, I think I also pointed out already that she is the ONLY one who ever shows regret and a sense of guilt. All characters did mistakes at some point, but Sekai is the only one who feels guilty and doesn't just blindly pursuit her own happiness. Also (after rewatching the last episode yesterday again) I think even though she killed Makoto she was still pretty "sane" compared to Kotonoha. I mean it is one thing to stab someone out of despair. But when I think of Kotonoha... What is the first thing you do when you enter your boyfriends appartement and he is dead? Call the police and stuff? No, you take a saw and chop off his head so that you can carry it around in a bag. The whole body would be too heavy, isn't it natural to take only the head? >_> (besides if she wanted to take Makotos "soul" with her, she should have cut off his thingy and carry THAT around, cause his brain resided in there not the head...) While I think sekai did show all the emotions (despair,guilt ...etc ) they all did especially Setsuna (who's my second favourite )even Mokoto at the end ... You might wanna take a look at this -(this is what people who hate sekai think ) Do you agree with what they are saying ?I think it's a bit too harsh .. |
foxy12 said: You might wanna take a look at this -(this is what people who hate sekai think ) Do you agree with what they are saying ?I think it's a bit too harsh .. It's not just "harsh" it's pretty warped to put it THAT way. o_O 1. she did that for Setsuna, but while gathering infos for her friend she also started to like Makoto and since Setsuna lied by saying she isn't in love with Makoto, Sekai also can't be blamed for stealing Makoto from Setsuna 3. When does she lie? She doesn't tell him that she loves him, but that is not lying but hiding parts of the truth... 4. seemed pretty spontaneous to me, hardly planned 6. yeah sex practise is weird, but people tend to forget: Makoto COULD have refused! 7. she never said that (at least not until Makoto already left Kotonoha for her!), Setsuna and the others jumped into that conclusion themselves 8. so stalkers shout "I'm pregnant"? have to ask my friend who studied psychology to back that funny claim up... >_> 9. I doubt she "broke" into the house... either she had a key or Makoto always leaves his door unlocked o.O (ironically to that claim: in the game it is Kotonoha who later breaks into Makotos appartement on a DAILY BASIS and secretly watches him and Sekai having sex while smelling on his used underwear... XD) 10. should she have send a letter by pigeon to resolve that issue? What's wrong about going to his appartement to talk to those two? 11. no remorse? She cried and stuff... Again (cause I assume Kotonoha fans wrote that) Kotonoha is the one who shows no (appropriate) emotion to the situation by cutting off Makotos head... 12. Even murderers who DO turn themselves in usually take some hours or days to do so. It's the most normal thing to first return home and think about what you have done. Sekai was killed by Kotonoha before there was really a chance for her to start thinking about what to do next (like turning herself in). I also don't know why "denial" is brought up cause to me there is no sign of her denying anything. 13. She brought the knife because she didn't decide yet if she tries to hide the weapon or turns herself in, so it's safest for now to carry it with you, right? Also she was still in shock and since the mail came from Makotos cell phone she maybe had the scary vision of a zombie Makoto waiting for her, who would go there unarmed? The serious mental illness is easily found in Kotonoha, not in Sekai. Having your own opinion is all nice and fine, but the person who wrote this seems pretty nuts to me. Besides, laymen shouldn't talk big about mental diseases. Most people know a damn about real symptoms and spread those half-wisdom to sound important. Did you get that from some "Hail to Kotonohas innocence" forum or something? XD |
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canis said: foxy12 said: You might wanna take a look at this -(this is what people who hate sekai think ) Do you agree with what they are saying ?I think it's a bit too harsh .. It's not just "harsh" it's pretty warped to put it THAT way. o_O 1. she did that for Setsuna, but while gathering infos for her friend she also started to like Makoto and since Setsuna lied by saying she isn't in love with Makoto, Sekai also can't be blamed for stealing Makoto from Setsuna 3. When does she lie? She doesn't tell him that she loves him, but that is not lying but hiding parts of the truth... 4. seemed pretty spontaneous to me, hardly planned 6. yeah sex practise is weird, but people tend to forget: Makoto COULD have refused! 7. she never said that (at least not until Makoto already left Kotonoha for her!), Setsuna and the others jumped into that conclusion themselves 8. so stalkers shout "I'm pregnant"? have to ask my friend who studied psychology to back that funny claim up... >_> 9. I doubt she "broke" into the house... either she had a key or Makoto always leaves his door unlocked o.O (ironically to that claim: in the game it is Kotonoha who later breaks into Makotos appartement on a DAILY BASIS and secretly watches him and Sekai having sex while smelling on his used underwear... XD) 10. should she have send a letter by pigeon to resolve that issue? What's wrong about going to his appartement to talk to those two? 11. no remorse? She cried and stuff... Again (cause I assume Kotonoha fans wrote that) Kotonoha is the one who shows no (appropriate) emotion to the situation by cutting off Makotos head... 12. Even murderers who DO turn themselves in usually take some hours or days to do so. It's the most normal thing to first return home and think about what you have done. Sekai was killed by Kotonoha before there was really a chance for her to start thinking about what to do next (like turning herself in). I also don't know why "denial" is brought up cause to me there is no sign of her denying anything. 13. She brought the knife because she didn't decide yet if she tries to hide the weapon or turns herself in, so it's safest for now to carry it with you, right? Also she was still in shock and since the mail came from Makotos cell phone she maybe had the scary vision of a zombie Makoto waiting for her, who would go there unarmed? The serious mental illness is easily found in Kotonoha, not in Sekai. Having your own opinion is all nice and fine, but the person who wrote this seems pretty nuts to me. Besides, laymen shouldn't talk big about mental diseases. Most people know a damn about real symptoms and spread those half-wisdom to sound important. Did you get that from some "Hail to Kotonohas innocence" forum or something? XD Canis ,I ttly a gree with everything you said a bout Sekai ^ ^.Sekai was just a girl who gave in to her inner emotions and I pity her the most out of all the girls .She was the real victim here (more than katanoha ). Lol,I got it from Fansubs TV forums ..I hate it -.- people there are so harsh and Judgmental and I prefer animesuki and this forum ^ ^ As for the mental illness,I have to agree to diagree here Canis .Both girls were in Terrible conditions especially the last episodes and Sekai's fake Pregnancy proves it .Some might say she's pregnant other's might disagree .But the last episode showed us that Sekai lied a bout her pregnancy . we can read this the other way a round ,Katanoha was the one who lied because she was in her own world -.- As for me ,I still believe that Sekai forced her mind to make herself believe that she was pregnant.She really believed that she was pregnant with his child (I mean why wouid she go get Nutrition's for Baby if it was not there and rubbing her Stomach saying 'it's mokoto's baby a lone in her room )so my guess is that due to extreme depression because of that shocking truth a bout Mokoto cheating on her and not noticing her period gave her the hints the she might be pregnant with his child which caused her to throw up and such ,It happens that girls don't get thier period's in time due to depression (change in mood ).. And that's why I believe that Sekai wasn't mentally stable at that time although less than Katanoha .Sekai acting all emo and depressed was a prove that her condition was not so well .. I'm not saying that Sekai is nuts (a crazy person wouidn't have felt guilt like you said)but she was in a terrible condition which caused her to fantasize a lot .Her guilt caused her to fall into deep depression and despair (like Mitsuki from KGNE).. As for the kiss on ep 1 -she did it to relieve herself and it was spontaneous and passionate like you said even though it was forcefull . Mokoto couid have said No to sekai ,he couid have turned her down ,he couid have broken up with Katanoha if he liked Sekai .He couid have Controled his lust .Yes ,Sekai's action's were wrong but the one thing that separates here from Mokoto is that she was MADLY IN LOVE ,Mokoto on the other hand was not in love with anyone..maybe a small crush on katanoha (he never knew what love is till katsure opened his eyes )he was not in love with Sekai at all .He thought he was in love with Sekai cuz she gave him what he wanted (Unconditional sex)... Even though I pity him to a certain degree and I know that he was a victim of lust (let's not blame him for everything )The girls were at great fault too for throwing themselves at him .At the sametime I'm terribly disgusted with him too because he was not there for Sekai when she needed him the most (weather she was lying a bout the baby or not )he shouid've being there for her and not shift back to his original girlfriend after taking all of sekai's virginity and demoralizing her .It's not fair for Sekai even if he felt guilt for leaving Katanoha .. And that's why I believe that Sekia's love was unrequited.He never loved Sekai that way .. As for Katanoha- I pity her a lot too .She's had it bad in every way and I find her to be a sweet/kind person over all .Her obessive love for Mokoto bother's some people but I found it to be tragic if you ask me (she was Unconsciously in love with Mokoto )she apparently fell in love with the shy mokoto we saw in ep 1 .. While I think that both girls sufferd so much,I have to say that Sekai suffered way more than Katanoha because she was the one showing all the emotions like you said and Katanoha was unconscious to the truth the whole time .Katanoha's suffering was because of the people abusive treatment's for her .Sekai's suffered from unrequited love ,guilt and and relationship's... Even though neoalexys has some good/vaild points a bout Mokoto being the victim here .I find it hard to totaly sympathize with him as he showed no sign of Remorse whatsoever till the very end and it was only for Katanoha .The only time he showed guilt for Sekai was in the very last ep when he held sekai's Stomach but I did feel a bit for him because of what he became .. I don' t think that Mokoto loved anyone either ,he just had a small crush on Katanoha .. Sekai killed mokoto out of dispair and it was not some evil motive like what other's say.. |
foxy12Jun 14, 2009 6:28 AM
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