| League of Legends VS DotA?? Which one is better? Which one is more challenging? Which one is more enjoyable? Which is which? Why and Why Not? Care to explain why you like League of Legends (LoL) more? or why you like Defense of the Ancients more (DotA)? |
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| I think they are both completely overrated (not to mention the horrible fanbases) but I think I enjoyed DotA more than League of Legends. |
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| They give the same fun. DotA has a nice and skillful community, the game itself is average. LoL has the worst community ever, the game itself is good. DotA has a nice balance, but rarely new heroes. LoL has the worst balance on the MOBA story, but many new heroes. DotA is 100% fair, RL money stuff is very expensive. LoL is 100% unfair with talents, runes and shit, but the skins are pretty cheap. |
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| LoL is more a strategy game with fast teamfights, based on landing skillshots and reaction time, with constantly innovation. DotA is more a mechanical game with slow teamfights, based on disables with high duration and heroes with high apm (action per minute). Metagame is stagnated most times. Both fanbases sucks. I played DotA for one year before moving to LoL, and now I'm Plat II at. When I played DotA, my apm was 240 at best (judging on score 1-10, was 7). |
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xJapaliicious said: If LoL is more a strategy game, I wonder what DotA 2 is.LoL is more a strategy game Argh, I hate people that don't play the other game and still bash it. If DotA 2 is not as strategic as LoL, man, DotA 2 is surely in a dangerous situation. I mean, holy shit dude, have you ever played DotA 2? I mean, have you ever played with heroes like Pudge, Invoker or Earth spirit? xJapaliicious said: What is "slow teamfights"? Argh, you have no idea what you are talking about. And you are wrong, the game is not based on disables, mainly because there is a damn item called "Monkey King Bar" (maybe its Black King Bar) that gives your hero immunity to any kind of disable or spell for some seconds, if you had TRULY played Dota 2 you would know that disables are only meaningful in the earlygame and maybe in the midgame.DotA is more a mechanical game with slow teamfights, based on disables with high duration and heroes with high apm The fanbase in DotA 2 is not bad compared to the LoL fanbase |
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lupadim said: Argh, I hate people that don't play the other game and still bash it. If DotA 2 is not as strategic as LoL, man, DotA 2 is surely in a dangerous situation. I mean, holy shit dude, have you ever played DotA 2? I mean, have you ever played with heroes like Pudge, Invoker or Earth spirit? I've played DotA a lot, I used to play at RGC with paiN/CNB players a lot. Stop, pls. And yes, LoL requires more strategy than DotA. The map awareness between them isn't the same. While DotA requires map awareness to don't miss skillshots in certain terrains, LoL requires map awareness over all map because the junglers. My main heroes when I played DotA was Nevermore, Meepo, Invoker, Windrunner and Rexxar. lupadim said: What is "slow teamfights"? Argh, you have no idea what you are talking about. And you are wrong, the game is not based on disables, mainly because there is a damn item called "Monkey King Bar" (maybe its Black King Bar) that gives your hero immunity to any kind of disable or spell for some seconds, if you had TRULY played Dota 2 you would know that disables are only meaningful in the earlygame and maybe in the midgame. At least, when I stopped and what I watch after that, DotA games changed from late game teamfight games (Spectre, Medusa, Void, etc) to early push strategy (Broodmother, Enchant, Sand King, Chen, Rexxar, Vengeful Spirit, etc). Only late game teamfights are fast in DotA, and the movement between both teams at early game usually don't let carriers farm, delaying their BKB. lupadim said: The fanbase in DotA 2 is not bad compared to the LoL fanbase Yeah, it is. Just by the fact they compare both games EVERYTIME made them worse. I play Dota 2 sometimes, and isn't different from LoL games when we're talking about flaming each other. |
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xJapaliicious said: There is no way Dota 2 fanbase can be any worse than LoL fanbase because Dota 2 is not focused on kids, while LoL is like, creating publicity to attract raging kiddos.Yeah, it is. Just by the fact they compare both games EVERYTIME made them worse. I play Dota 2 sometimes, and isn't different from LoL games when we're talking about flaming each other. |
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lupadim said: xJapaliicious said: There is no way Dota 2 fanbase can be any worse than LoL fanbase because Dota 2 is not focused on kids, while LoL is like, creating publicity to attract raging kiddos.Yeah, it is. Just by the fact they compare both games EVERYTIME made them worse. I play Dota 2 sometimes, and isn't different from LoL games when we're talking about flaming each other. Sorry, I chose the wrong words. I don't think Dota 2 fanbase is worse than LoL, but they still bad. Yes, LoL fanbase is definitely worse. |
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| Basically: Yes, LoL is better, but just because of the small details (the dubbed voices, the mechanics, etc). Dota 2 has a way more in-depth moba experience, but it lacks... the game itself. |
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| So Which one is better exactly? It's hard to choose but which one favors you the most? Current Poll Standing: LoL - 3 DotA - 2 |
pizza_012 said: ErmSo Which one is better exactly? It's hard to choose but which one favors you the most? lupadim said: Basically: Yes, LoL is better, but just because of the small details (the dubbed voices, the mechanics, etc). Dota 2 has a way more in-depth moba experience, but it lacks... the game itself. |
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| Mobas are all boring (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ if I had to choose I'd go with dota tho |
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VodahminKendov said: I prefer LoL, not that I think DOTA is a terrible game. I just couldn't get used to it after playing LoL for 2 years. Something just didn't feel right. But then I have only played a few hours on it, maybe If I stuck with it I would come to enjoy it more. Still, I can't see myself ever preferring DOTA over LoL. lupadim said: LoL is 100% unfair with talents, runes and shit, but the skins are pretty cheap. To be fair, everyone has access to the same runes and masteries. And runes can't be bought with real money either. ^Joke. Money can be used to buy heroes. And when you do that, you dont have to spend your in game points on heroes anymore. Thus, you just spend it on runes, letting your money take care of all the heroes. typical LoL player logic. |
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| Why are you asking something that can't be objectively measured? Obviously, people who like LoL are going to vote for LoL. Likewise, people who like DotA are going to vote for DotA. There is no right answer. btw RP should only be used on skins (possibly runepages). Using it on champs is a waste. |
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MCsq2 said: Why are you asking something that can't be objectively measured? Obviously, people who like LoL are going to vote for LoL. Likewise, people who like DotA are going to vote for DotA. There is no right answer. btw RP should only be used on skins (possibly runepages). Using it on champs is a waste. Meanwhile you get free skins at dota.................. If we are comparing, yeah. |
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Tommk said: VodahminKendov said: I prefer LoL, not that I think DOTA is a terrible game. I just couldn't get used to it after playing LoL for 2 years. Something just didn't feel right. But then I have only played a few hours on it, maybe If I stuck with it I would come to enjoy it more. Still, I can't see myself ever preferring DOTA over LoL. lupadim said: LoL is 100% unfair with talents, runes and shit, but the skins are pretty cheap. To be fair, everyone has access to the same runes and masteries. And runes can't be bought with real money either. ^Joke. Money can be used to buy heroes. And when you do that, you dont have to spend your in game points on heroes anymore. Thus, you just spend it on runes, letting your money take care of all the heroes. typical LoL player logic. You must be dumb to waste money buying heroes. That's why LoL is an addictive game, you will stay playing to buy runes/champions. |
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MCsq2 said: Why are you asking something that can't be objectively measured? Obviously, people who like LoL are going to vote for LoL. Likewise, people who like DotA are going to vote for DotA. There is no right answer. btw RP should only be used on skins (possibly runepages). Using it on champs is a waste. I Know, of course but the point is without being biased of course, Which is better in terms of strategical gameplays, in-game graphics, animations, splash arts and other aspects that would probably fall under both MOBA's |
xJapaliicious said: Tommk said: VodahminKendov said: I prefer LoL, not that I think DOTA is a terrible game. I just couldn't get used to it after playing LoL for 2 years. Something just didn't feel right. But then I have only played a few hours on it, maybe If I stuck with it I would come to enjoy it more. Still, I can't see myself ever preferring DOTA over LoL. lupadim said: LoL is 100% unfair with talents, runes and shit, but the skins are pretty cheap. To be fair, everyone has access to the same runes and masteries. And runes can't be bought with real money either. ^Joke. Money can be used to buy heroes. And when you do that, you dont have to spend your in game points on heroes anymore. Thus, you just spend it on runes, letting your money take care of all the heroes. typical LoL player logic. You must be dumb to waste money buying heroes. That's why LoL is an addictive game, you will stay playing to buy runes/champions. People get free skins in dota2 if they play more. They don't even have to pay for it. *shrugs* Your point ? Getting free skins does not restrict one from playing various heroes. Unlike LoL which locked almost all the heroes and give you free weekly champions. I played both LoL and Dota2, I started LoL first at season 1 to season 2. Then started dota2 a few years later. By far, Dota 2 have better events and better choice selection. Oh, I didn't know that LoL create special events for christmas and halloweens. Oh wait, what LoL do = XP BOOST/IP BOOST. Joke LoL, you have to play countless of games with the heroes that you dislike to get enough points to buy the hero you like. Sad for me, as I'm pretty picky. |
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VodahminKendov said: But the double IP bonus can be bought with real moneylupadim said: LoL is 100% unfair with talents, runes and shit, but the skins are pretty cheap. To be fair, everyone has access to the same runes and masteries. And runes can't be bought with real money either. Tommk said: This. I remember my early days when Garen, Teemo and Ashe were the only heroes I had available to play and that I loved. Sometimes, my team would pick those three before me, and I would be all like "omfg this game sucks why cant I play with the hero I want"LoL, you have to play countless of games with the heroes that you dislike to get enough points to buy the hero you like. Sad for me, as I'm pretty picky. Mod Edit: double post merged. |
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lupadim said: But the double IP bonus can be bought with real money makes sense. I guess that's the reason why Steve "guinsoo" Feak left and applied for Riot to be one of their game designers or am i missing something? Since riot is rolling with money these days. Another question, Why are these so called games considered as sports nowadays? (referring to the term e-sports) I mean professional players can even get a total sum of money ranging from $500,000 to $1M depending on what event. |
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| First: none of us were comparing Dota and LoL. And "free skins" are dumb too. You won't help the developers to improve the game. Isn't anything different between piracy, where also you won't be helping the developers. Two: Tommk said: There aren't any video about the champion, there isn't free week and you can't buy champions. Not only that, but THERE ISNT A REAL REASON TO OWN ALL CHAMPIOSN. Why would want to own all champions ? To play them all and be an average player with everything or play few champions and be an expert with them ?Unlike LoL which locked almost all the heroes and give you free weekly champions. Three: Tommk said: You don't know how events works on LoL.By far, Dota 2 have better events and better choice selection. Oh, I didn't know that LoL create special events for christmas and halloweens. Oh wait, what LoL do = XP BOOST/IP BOOST. |
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| This is the perfect thread for lupadim. I prefer League of Legends over Defense of the Ancients every day. League of Legends is perfect for short fun when I'm bored and DotA simply bores me. I also don't like DotA's look with the Source Engine, the soundtrack isn't that good, in the German version the texts are all a mixture of German and English (like, wtf Valve?), it's too overwhelming for beginners, most of the community seems asocial and is bashing League of Legend players whenever they get the chance to (and are calling THEM raging and flaming kiddies when they are basically the same, oh the irony) and so on and so on. So yeah, it's League of Legends for me. It's better in every aspect in my opinion. Also saying League of Legends is pay2win is like officially admitting inside a police station that you do drugs and rape children every weekend for fun. Because it's just nonsense. |
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| Where's Heroes of Newerth on this poll? Or Bloodline Champions? Honestly though, I don't really think one is superior to the other. I used to be an avid DotA fanboy for years until my friends got me playing LoL and I still play it to this day. I hate the lack of denying in LoL, but love the extensive amount of skillshots. I love the Courier in DotA, but sometimes I miss the free recall. Both of the games have champions/heroes that are extremely fun and both have a highly entertaining competitive scene. Honestly, we should stop trying to pick favorites and just consider ourselves blessed with the amount of variety we have these days. |
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| I cant vote since ive only played dota (a lot) and havent touched lol But lol would have to be amazing to best dota |
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Lucumo said: xJapaliicious said: And yes, LoL requires more strategy than DotA. The map awareness between them isn't the same. While DotA requires map awareness to don't miss skillshots in certain terrains, LoL requires map awareness over all map because the junglers. And DotA doesn't have junglers? And what about roaming heroes? Looks more like you have no clue about the game. If you say about those heavy roamers always carrying a Smoke and TPs, or denying jungle camps with wards, it must be hard. |
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xJapaliicious said: Lucumo said: xJapaliicious said: And yes, LoL requires more strategy than DotA. The map awareness between them isn't the same. While DotA requires map awareness to don't miss skillshots in certain terrains, LoL requires map awareness over all map because the junglers. And DotA doesn't have junglers? And what about roaming heroes? Looks more like you have no clue about the game. If you say about those heavy roamers always carrying a Smoke and TPs, or denying jungle camps with wards, it must be hard. Harder than LoL that does not even have a deny system *shrugs* |
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Tommk said: Hey, don't destroy their dreams.xJapaliicious said: Lucumo said: xJapaliicious said: And yes, LoL requires more strategy than DotA. The map awareness between them isn't the same. While DotA requires map awareness to don't miss skillshots in certain terrains, LoL requires map awareness over all map because the junglers. And DotA doesn't have junglers? And what about roaming heroes? Looks more like you have no clue about the game. If you say about those heavy roamers always carrying a Smoke and TPs, or denying jungle camps with wards, it must be hard. Harder than LoL that does not even have a deny system *shrugs* |
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Tommk said: xJapaliicious said: Lucumo said: xJapaliicious said: And yes, LoL requires more strategy than DotA. The map awareness between them isn't the same. While DotA requires map awareness to don't miss skillshots in certain terrains, LoL requires map awareness over all map because the junglers. And DotA doesn't have junglers? And what about roaming heroes? Looks more like you have no clue about the game. If you say about those heavy roamers always carrying a Smoke and TPs, or denying jungle camps with wards, it must be hard. Harder than LoL that does not even have a deny system *shrugs* Dota is harder mechanically than LoL, I already said that. We are talking about map awareness, not about mechanics. |
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xJapaliicious said: First: none of us were comparing Dota and LoL. And "free skins" are dumb too. You won't help the developers to improve the game. Isn't anything different between piracy, where also you won't be helping the developers. Two: Tommk said: There aren't any video about the champion, there isn't free week and you can't buy champions. Not only that, but THERE ISNT A REAL REASON TO OWN ALL CHAMPIOSN. Why would want to own all champions ? To play them all and be an average player with everything or play few champions and be an expert with them ?Unlike LoL which locked almost all the heroes and give you free weekly champions. Three: Tommk said: You don't know how events works on LoL.By far, Dota 2 have better events and better choice selection. Oh, I didn't know that LoL create special events for christmas and halloweens. Oh wait, what LoL do = XP BOOST/IP BOOST. First: Developers and the players are happy with this. Piracy ? Wtf, do you have the mind of an immature brat ? They do sell skins, but they made it an option whether the players want to buy it or not. And in dota2, players trade the skins they got for free in game/bought to complete their set. They also have an item betting system for ''comp'' matches. It makes it more fun. I played LoL and Dota2, and in Dota2, I completed my favorite heroes item set without paying a dime. Second: Would you have a variety of champion or just a few ? If you aren't retarded you would pick a variety because it consist the champions you love and the rest. Btw, dota2 players tend to play with /random to give them a random pick of all the champions which provide more thrills and gold advantage. Third: Explain to me how event work in LoL. Collect tickets and get a free roll at the wheel of fortune, collect gems, ip boost, xp boost. Do they even change the entire gameplay like dota2 ? Dota2 have diretide. which they changed the entire objective of the mobagame. Meanwhile ...LOL |
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xJapaliicious said: Tommk said: xJapaliicious said: Lucumo said: xJapaliicious said: And yes, LoL requires more strategy than DotA. The map awareness between them isn't the same. While DotA requires map awareness to don't miss skillshots in certain terrains, LoL requires map awareness over all map because the junglers. And DotA doesn't have junglers? And what about roaming heroes? Looks more like you have no clue about the game. If you say about those heavy roamers always carrying a Smoke and TPs, or denying jungle camps with wards, it must be hard. Harder than LoL that does not even have a deny system *shrugs* Dota is harder mechanically than LoL, I already said that. We are talking about map awareness, not about mechanics. You should know they put sentries to detect sod. Which makes it way more trickier, and people have to spend more gold to deward their jungle camps. Hmmm, I wonder which have more strategy. |
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Tommk said: First: Developers and the players are happy with this. Piracy ? Wtf, do you have the mind of an immature brat ? They do sell skins, but they made it an option whether the players want to buy it or not. And in dota2, players trade the skins they got for free in game/bought to complete their set. They also have an item betting system for ''comp'' matches. It makes it more fun. I played LoL and Dota2, and in Dota2, I completed my favorite heroes item set without paying a dime. Second: Would you have a variety of champion or just a few ? If you aren't retarded you would pick a variety because it consist the champions you love and the rest. Btw, dota2 players tend to play with /random to give them a random pick of all the champions which provide more thrills and gold advantage. Third: Explain to me how event work in LoL. Collect tickets and get a free roll at the wheel of fortune, collect gems, ip boost, xp boost. Do they even change the entire gameplay like dota2 ? Dota2 have diretide. which they changed the entire objective of the mobagame. Meanwhile ...LOL Calm Down. Calm Down. Just Respect each others opinion about whatever their choice is. |
pizza_012 said: Calm Down. Calm Down. Just Respect each others opinion about whatever their choice is. Lets do just that, I'm tired of this. Its pointless to argue. Both game creators showed respect to each other at the outside, why are the fans arguing about it. Its just like PS4 vs XBOX1 |
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| #1: Piracy and "everything free" is just comparing. And it's funny that you said "They do sell skins, but they made it an option whether the players want to buy it or not." but everyone will waste money in champions as you said. #2: I love /random on dota, but I don't know why the gold they give the extra gold. Also, I think this is one of the best comparsions you said, because dota is way more harder mechanically than lol, making /random more funny than it should be. About variety of champion: Making a champion pool doens't need to be everything. #3: We don't need diretide, we have 5 type of games (5v5, 3v3, ARAM, Dominion and One for All). Events on LoL are based on new temporary skins and playing more games to earn exclusive icons. #edit We also have invisible detects on LoL, lol. |
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| Current poll standings: 7 for lol, 9 for dota. Looks like a few people already shared their opinions on both games. Share yours also! Just no bashing please. Everyone is entitled with their weapon of choice. |
| Dota is a better game. LoL can't deny. |
FlameWingman21 said: LoL can't ward the jungles. LoL can't stack. LoL can't go invisible (with items). LoL lacks interactive items and skills. Yes, LoL lacks interactivity.Dota is a better game. LoL can't deny. |
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| It's subjective really, I choose LoL cause its (honestly) learning curve is easier than dota 2, I've played both and i have to say both the communities suck dick. Dota 2 doesn't have much kids but raging teens and such Edit: Though Dota gives you the whole champs, woudn't you be confused on who to use? I'd be, I think the free week rotation is better as you only have a limited amount of champions you can't try out, but hey that's just me. |
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lupadim said: LoL lacks interactive items and skills. Yes, LoL lacks interactivity. This is sad. I wish I had a Force Staff or Blink Dagger in LoL :c |
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xJapaliicious said: lupadim said: LoL lacks interactive items and skills. Yes, LoL lacks interactivity. This is sad. I wish I had a Force Staff or Blink Dagger in LoL :c :c come play dota2 then, enough with your bitching |
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| In LoL , if two beginners started playing the one that will make it to level 3 will have more advantage. I just don't like that. There's an unfair advantage because you have more level ( not in game ) than your opponent. Like runes and shit. In Dota, you play fairly. No boosts or anything like that pre-game. 9 years of experience in dota. I choose dota. |
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