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Jan 17, 2009 9:57 PM
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"as i said in another thread"

SPOILER WARNING IF YOU HAVENT PLAYED

Man, so im at the final boss Nyx, and i gotta say he/she is the most cheap fucking boss ive ever played against, im pretty pissed off that he/she has 13 different stages and it takes like 30 minutes to get to the 13th one and when you've finally got him/her down to 2/10ths of health, the fucker unleashes some heavy damage unbloackable attack that gives you a random condition and no matter what it is, he/she gets to attack 2-3 more times before you go and you just die because no matter what condition your in, you get hit with like 50 millions points of extra damage, im pretty much thinking, fuck this shit. im not gonna got like 1 1/2 - 2 hours trying to kill this thing and dying no matter what i do, biggest bullshit ever.

Ninja gaiden didnt piss me off this much and i had to keep going up that fucking volcano without dying on the final boss.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCKIN BULLSHIT!!!

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Is this thing not the cheapest boss you've ever encountered, im thinking about sending it back to gamefly and marking this as my first official uncompleted game!

I'm level 76 and had no problem with any of the previous bosses.

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(Thought?)
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Jan 17, 2009 10:08 PM
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grind moar. xD

how's your gear?
Jan 17, 2009 10:15 PM
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Weapon - Deus Xiphos (AT:450, HIT: 94)
Armor - Papal Robe (DEF:128)
Feet - Hanzo Sandals (EV:98)
Accessory - Vitality Ring (+30% HP)

My Strongest Persona:
Michael - No weaknesses and strong.

cheapest boss ever! its like i would have to have a personal with null everything >_<
Jan 17, 2009 10:19 PM
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well the most important thing to remember about this fight is bringing along a persona that can heal and attack, and that since this is your last fight, use all the items you have if necessary. I had a tough time the first time I fought Nyx as well, but after a bit of fusing and grinding I beat him (on my third attempt).

also Gabriel > Michael
Jan 17, 2009 10:26 PM
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Micheal > Gabriel, i have them both, Micheal is all pretty much steroided out with most of his stats, because off all those cards i had.

I have 50 Revival beads, lots of Somas and everything item i culd need i never ran out, i just get massadred out of nowhere by that queen something attack.

Michael (77) all skills learned
-Maziodyne
-Mediarahan
-Evil Smile
-Growth 2
-Absorb Fire
-Mabufudyne
-Repel Daark
-Heavens Blade

His stats:
ST:76
MA:85
EN:72
AG:72
LU:99

An i pretty much fully heal everyone atleast every 1-2 turns. i dont see how Gabriel would be better though, i cant use Mahamaon on the boss, and they both have ice, but she is at level 72 and a lot weaker in stats.
Jan 17, 2009 10:30 PM
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Get THE Omnipotent Orb and all your problems are solved although halfway through the grinding process, you would have probably reach the max level..

To me, the final boss fight was kinda like this:

Yap, yap, yap. 4-5 hit kill. Goodbye Attack. Change form.
Yap, yap, yap. 4-5 hit kill. Goodbye Attack. Change form.

You get the idea..

Final form. Some random status to which i was immune of course and as for his reflect speel, i just use my Main Character (MC) dully name 'Kira Yamato' to whack it just for the attack to bounce to my MC for like 0 damage. Could have even played the fight blind folded..

Messiah, Lucifer and Satan <3

I have never lost to any final boss before in my entire RPG playing lifespan. Optional bosses are a totally different story.......Damn you Penance. Over-leveling FTW.
Jan 17, 2009 10:36 PM
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Gabriel was better for me because she had one of the better Dia spells ( It's been a while since I fired up P3 so I don't recall which one.)
anyways you should try to get lucifer too if you don't have him already he'll be a really good addition.
Jan 17, 2009 10:43 PM
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The damage is not the problem with this fuck and his last resort bullshit. If you can't survive it without issues, you need to level more. The problem is the possibility of being inflicted by charm, which FOR THE FUCKING RECORD, happened to ALL THREE OF MY FUCKING CHARACTERS AT ONCE. WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF THAT. It doesn't matter how much you fucking grinded at that point, you're FUCKED anyway. Needless to say, the guy's a cunt, but just level some more and hope it doesn't go as badly as it did for me my first time.
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Jan 17, 2009 10:47 PM
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FOR THE FUCKING RECORD, happened to ALL THREE OF MY FUCKING CHARACTERS AT ONCE. WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF THAT.


Very high i'll say. For the record i only had 2 charmed characters.
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All I know is it didn't happen at all the second time. Thank god.

edit: Oh yeah, I completely forgot that the second time around I had a persona with resist charm or w/e. Get one.
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Jan 17, 2009 10:48 PM

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Nyx needed more luck than skill to beat -_-;;
Jan 17, 2009 10:51 PM

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Neverender said:
The damage is not the problem with this fuck and his last resort bullshit. If you can't survive it without issues, you need to level more. The problem is the possibility of being inflicted by charm, which FOR THE FUCKING RECORD, happened to ALL THREE OF MY FUCKING CHARACTERS AT ONCE. WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF THAT. It doesn't matter how much you fucking grinded at that point, you're FUCKED anyway. Needless to say, the guy's a cunt, but just level some more and hope it doesn't go as badly as it did for me my first time.


Thats exactly what happened on my first go. he was almost dead then BAM i get charmed and heal him 4000 completely and murder my own team.

@djinn - isnt diarahn the best one for single person and mediarahn best for everyone (full heal)i do it like veryturn

nayah - yeah i dont ANY of the 4-6 persona fusion, i just dont have any of the required persona/arcana and i donnt read guides because feel like it would be cheating but GOD!

EDIT : @ neverender - my raphael has it, i switch after the first blast but i was fear induced and crap ..

EDIT2: Not to mention that he first go around i had put up a magic mirror and he would just spam that almight attack over and over....
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i get charmed and heal him 4000 completely and murder my own team.

lmfao yeah that happened to me. He was just rubbing it in with that shit.
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Jan 17, 2009 10:59 PM

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Neverender said:
shadysaiyan said:
i get charmed and heal him 4000 completely and murder my own team.

lmfao yeah that happened to me. He was just rubbing it in with that shit.


XD i know, i mean takaya (jesus? wtf) and jin were very easy, so im like yeah gonna kick nyx's ass... i was wrong. good thing it does go to 20 arcana(right?)
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TBH only guide i read was How to get all Social Links Maxed in just one play through.
First few months were really stressful.

As for Omnipotent orb, i heard it from a friend. But over leveling shouldn't be a problem at all with the Monad Tower.
Jan 17, 2009 11:01 PM

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Nayah said:

As for Omnipotent orb, i heard it from a friend. But over leveling shouldn't be a problem at all with the Monad Tower.
yea, got from lvl 60 something to 100 in less than 6 hours
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Nayah said:
TBH only guide i read was How to get all Social Links Maxed in just one play through.
First few months were really stressful.

As for Omnipotent orb, i heard it from a friend. But over leveling shouldn't be a problem at all with the Monad Tower.


I've never heard of these orbs or towers O_o. its bad enough that throughout the game i HAD the wait 30 days to kick some ass when i was ready then, i mean afer elizebeth would give me the call about the next floor open, i would go there and deaft the first 2 bosses on that bloack, sleep 2 say, and beat the next 2, then just get try to get my social likns/smarts/charm/courage up.
Jan 17, 2009 11:09 PM

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this thread confuses me...i beat nyx on my first try.

if you thought this was bad, prepare yourself for the answer's boss... :x

shadysaiyan said:
Nayah said:
TBH only guide i read was How to get all Social Links Maxed in just one play through.
First few months were really stressful.

As for Omnipotent orb, i heard it from a friend. But over leveling shouldn't be a problem at all with the Monad Tower.


I've never heard of these orbs or towers O_o.
uh...
Jan 17, 2009 11:13 PM

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seriously? dammit................. goodthing i have 3 files saves, one being a whole 7 days before, but come on. >_<
Jan 17, 2009 11:15 PM

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seriously, you never noticed that huge door that shows up out of no where at the back of the back of the tartarus. I don't blame you though, if I recall correctly, they don't give you any notification when the door shows up. but then again, I played P3, not FES
Jan 17, 2009 11:16 PM

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i guess i was overleveled or something. i don't remember what equipment or personas i had, but they were nothing significant. i just remember completely annihilating nyx. i thought it was sad because ryouji was my favorite character. ;A;

monaids (my pet name for it) is just a secret dungeon that pops up towards the end of the game. it's in the back of the ground level of tartarus. it levels you up really quickly; the enemies are extremely strong but give a shitton of exp.
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i guess i was overleveled or something. i don't remember what equipment or personas i had, but they were nothing significant. i just remember completely annihilating nyx. i thought it was sad because ryouji was my favorite character. ;A;


yeah, that's not really surprising even if you weren't overleveled. He's pretty much a joke aside from that charm bullshit.
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Jan 17, 2009 11:17 PM

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Monad Tower opens up once you reach the top floor (floor 254 i think). It's like a huge white door at Tartarus ground floor. You can't miss it.

First time i entered that tower, my team only lasted 10 minutes before i left that tower like the chicken i was..>_> . Lets just say my Main Character was very lucky to have been the most leveled character from among the gang.
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djinn_690 said:
seriously, you never noticed that huge door that shows up out of no where at the back of the back of the tartarus. I don't blame you though, if I recall correctly, they don't give you any notification when the door shows up. but then again, I played P3, not FES


Door? i assume your not talking about the velvet room so i have no idea. :\
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windy said:
i guess i was overleveled or something. i don't remember what equipment or personas i had, but they were nothing significant. i just remember completely annihilating nyx. i thought it was sad because ryouji was my favorite character. ;A;

monaids (my pet name for it) is just a secret dungeon that pops up towards the end of the game. it's in the back of the ground level of tartarus. it levels you up really quickly; the enemies are extremely strong but give a shitton of exp.

and 1 million yen at the last floor I believe
Jan 17, 2009 11:18 PM

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malfunctioning tanks + horny snakes = <3333
Jan 17, 2009 11:22 PM

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Lucifer + Satan + Victory Cry + Monad Tower = LoL
Jan 17, 2009 11:22 PM

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oh my god, someone give me a screencap, i have my save after beating takaya on 262, and on the ground floor i see no door....
Jan 17, 2009 11:24 PM

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I thought you had to kill The Reaper to access Monad or w/e in FES
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I thought you had to kill The Reaper to access Monad or w/e in FES
that's fucking stupid if that's true. another reason i am glad i returned fes.
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yes i just looked at the faq, apparently i have to murder the reaper... dammit, never tried to fight him, but im gonna hate waiting for tainted cards...

But does that mean FES > P3 in terms of difficulty?
Jan 17, 2009 11:28 PM

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i went and ate a snack while i waited for the reaper to come find me...unless that changed in fes too?

the only part of fes that i liked was chidori coming back to life. the answer was a total joke. and really hard. :|
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windy said:
i went and ate a snack while i waited for the reaper to come find me...unless that changed in fes too?

the only part of fes that i liked was chidori coming back to life. the answer was a total joke. and really hard. :|


...thanks for the spoiler...
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No, you can sit there and he will come.

He'll come.

One time, I went afk without pausing. I came back and I was dead...

God, that game was so cruel to me... So cruel...
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shadysaiyan said:
windy said:
i went and ate a snack while i waited for the reaper to come find me...unless that changed in fes too?

the only part of fes that i liked was chidori coming back to life. the answer was a total joke. and really hard. :|


...thanks for the spoiler...
uuh, you passed that a long time ago...she only comes back if you doing certain things.

@ Neverender yes hahaha i did the same thing.
Jan 17, 2009 11:32 PM

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she never came back for me, she just died there while junpei whined. still, why is the villain in this game jesus? i mean really.
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The Reaper fight was way harder than Nyx's Fight. Whole fight lasted close to an hour with a team with my MC only at level 80+

A boss that actually knows how to useabuse the knock down feature...
Jan 17, 2009 11:34 PM

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wait so does he just come and slice you, no battle or you go into a battle? i wonder how long it takes..
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don't be dissing takaya, he's fab.

i don't remember the reaper fight being that hard either...i must have fought him after training in monaids for a while or something...my memory is pretty sketchy though. >_<

@ your last question: 10 minutes or something? i honestly don't remember. fuuka will say, "be careful! i sense death!" and you'll hear/see him coming on the map/in front of you so you can hit first.
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On a side note, the final boss looks rather cool accompanied by one of the best soundtrack themes.
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well wouldnt ya know it, i finally fight the guy and bam , he hits everyone with a Megadoloan and everyone dies but me and i only have 56 health left... why is it that i cant do squat when it comes to that attack from anyone?
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Let's see..if my memory serves me right.

One month till judgment day, Elizabeth called to tell me the *good* news. Went to the Velvet Door for requests as usual and then went up till almost to the top like the final mini boss. Used the elevator to the ground floor to refresh myself and immediately saved and then quickly up the elevator again for Reaper hunting. Leveled till almost 80 i think...and then just ordered my 'men' to like randomly go around killing harmless shadows till the bastard appeared

Went to the toilet and came back to see my 'men' just starting to engage IT in a fight. I joined the fight several seconds later (yeah, it was a very disadvantaged fight) and won and i just went to the top floor again.

Only then did i went back to relax and all just to notice that HUGE WHITE DOOR....

Note to self: Take the time to enjoy the scenery. Who knows what you might be missing..
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Hahahaa, nice story :D but i mean you cant block megadoloan and it always so powerful, what are your sugestions on just levvling up 3 certain people? i mean, in RPGS in general i always have everyone leveled out so everyone is like the same level or 1/2 level difference.
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Well now that MAL is back up, im gonna go to sleep (4:47 am here) but im looking through faq now and fusing stuff to see where it goes, but there no way im gonna max and social links when i only saved a week before the end of the world. i question how much i can level though tooo, every other day 4 level ups atleast i think. doubt i'll be beating the reaper though, that just some shit as well. 1 hit murder me silly with unblockable megadola. worst final boss ever!
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Lol, good night then.

MAL went down right when i was in the midst of typing this reply. Luckily i managed to save the text.

Might as well post since i'm in the mood and all. Copy and paste time.

I spent 3/4 of the whole fight time healing the entire team cause the AI can't be depended at all for the PROPER healing. At least they know how to pound him.

My team was like Akihiko, Aigis and Mitsuru. I even equiped some sword (forgot name) that boosted all of my persona's stats by 10 for good measure

Akihiko + Aegis for the debuffs and buffs makes surviving Megadoloan alot easier till that bastard decided to dump his Ice spells on Akihiko...

So much trouble for the reaper. If only i could say the same for Nyx..
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IIRC, to fight the Reaper, I abused the Thunder Reign skill and took him down with no trouble at all. :] Fuse an Odin and try it out, just don't let him use a turn for anything other than standing back up!
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Yeah i was typing as well nayah when it went down -__- i pretty much have to do the same, heal everyone every turn, while they do the attacking, even though im the trongest, its irony or something.
I'm gonna start leveling up my line up, Mitsuru (she good, but it annoys the hell out of me when she decides to do a mind charge all the time when she should just be dropping some ice), Junpei, and Aigis, they are pretty much the strongest for me. Akiihiko is my lowest character, but only becaues the number of people is uneven when i go up tartarus, so there usually one person whos below the rest.

gotta level and fuse!
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Mitsuru (she good, but it annoys the hell out of me when she decides to do a mind charge all the time when she should just be dropping some ice)

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=4762&show=60#msg2467733
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shadysaiyan said:
Mitsuru (she good, but it annoys the hell out of me when she decides to do a mind charge all the time when she should just be dropping some ice)

" target="_blank">http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=4762&show=60#msg2467733


except for me, it was always tentarafoo.
this is why p4 is so much better <3 controlling every party member ftw.

edit: rotfl mal and your fucking urls...
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Oh my god... who makes those. They are amazing.
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