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Sep 1, 2013 2:32 AM
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I've been wondering is Mikasa a Yan or Kuu, I personally think she's a mix of both. What do you guys think?

For those who don't know what kuudere and Yandere is.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yandere
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tsundere
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Sep 1, 2013 2:37 AM
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Misaka is an abdere cause she's got really nice abs.
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Sep 1, 2013 3:03 AM
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None, ^_^

Seriously, why people insist on stuffing characters in limited or wrong tropes and complain later how characters are flat or undeveloped. Not saying that you are complaining, but what is so wrong to just leave the chick loving her guy...
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Sep 1, 2013 3:30 AM
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Wouldn't quite call her a full blown yandere, but there are traces of it (okay, maybe a lot of it sans harming the love interest). She is alot more kuudere IMO.
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Sep 1, 2013 3:36 AM
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A mix of the two
Sep 1, 2013 3:44 AM
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Koryo-chan said:
Misaka is an abdere cause she's got really nice abs.
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Sep 1, 2013 3:55 AM
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I wouldn't say her attitude in regard to Eren is really being yandere at all - she clearly likes him but you also have to factor in knowing each other for ages, basically being family (I don't recall if they adopted her or if she was just living with them), him saving her, him losing his mom and her pretty much seeing him break at that point, and so on.

If anything, she's more like a big doting sister trying to protect her "innocent little brother who needs help". She likes Eren pretty obviously, but she doesn't see him as much of a man outside of that attraction (made very clear since the timeskip), so she sees it as her responsibility. For example, it's less "stop kicking the shit out of the boy I like" and more of a response you'd have if someone was beating the shit out of your kid or pet. She's got the feel of an adult sister or parent more than any -dere.
Sep 1, 2013 5:13 AM
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TallonKarrde23 said:
I wouldn't say her attitude in regard to Eren is really being yandere at all - she clearly likes him but you also have to factor in knowing each other for ages, basically being family (I don't recall if they adopted her or if she was just living with them), him saving her, him losing his mom and her pretty much seeing him break at that point, and so on.

If anything, she's more like a big doting sister trying to protect her "innocent little brother who needs help". She likes Eren pretty obviously, but she doesn't see him as much of a man outside of that attraction (made very clear since the timeskip), so she sees it as her responsibility. For example, it's less "stop kicking the shit out of the boy I like" and more of a response you'd have if someone was beating the shit out of your kid or pet. She's got the feel of an adult sister or parent more than any -dere.

She wasn't adopted, she isn't Mikasa Jaeger......yet
Sep 1, 2013 6:11 AM
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Neither of them. Yes, there are some bits of kuudere in her but I would describe her mainly as calm, strong and caring character.
Sep 1, 2013 6:15 AM

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Mixed.

Sep 1, 2013 6:27 AM

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Mixed.

This summarizes all
Sep 1, 2013 6:30 AM

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zellami said:
None, ^_^

Seriously, why people insist on stuffing characters in limited or wrong tropes and complain later how characters are flat or undeveloped. Not saying that you are complaining, but what is so wrong to just leave the chick loving her guy...


exactly.
Sep 1, 2013 6:32 AM

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People talking about XXdere when there is obviously no dere part.
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Sep 1, 2013 6:32 AM

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MikasaxEren said:
TallonKarrde23 said:
I wouldn't say her attitude in regard to Eren is really being yandere at all - she clearly likes him but you also have to factor in knowing each other for ages, basically being family (I don't recall if they adopted her or if she was just living with them), him saving her, him losing his mom and her pretty much seeing him break at that point, and so on.

If anything, she's more like a big doting sister trying to protect her "innocent little brother who needs help". She likes Eren pretty obviously, but she doesn't see him as much of a man outside of that attraction (made very clear since the timeskip), so she sees it as her responsibility. For example, it's less "stop kicking the shit out of the boy I like" and more of a response you'd have if someone was beating the shit out of your kid or pet. She's got the feel of an adult sister or parent more than any -dere.

She wasn't adopted, she isn't Mikasa Jaeger......yet


It seems like was adopted in everything but name to be honest. She lives with them, eats with them, etc
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Sep 1, 2013 6:58 AM
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Mikasa is Erendere.
Sep 1, 2013 7:58 AM

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dankickyou said:
MikasaxEren said:
TallonKarrde23 said:
I wouldn't say her attitude in regard to Eren is really being yandere at all - she clearly likes him but you also have to factor in knowing each other for ages, basically being family (I don't recall if they adopted her or if she was just living with them), him saving her, him losing his mom and her pretty much seeing him break at that point, and so on.

If anything, she's more like a big doting sister trying to protect her "innocent little brother who needs help". She likes Eren pretty obviously, but she doesn't see him as much of a man outside of that attraction (made very clear since the timeskip), so she sees it as her responsibility. For example, it's less "stop kicking the shit out of the boy I like" and more of a response you'd have if someone was beating the shit out of your kid or pet. She's got the feel of an adult sister or parent more than any -dere.

She wasn't adopted, she isn't Mikasa Jaeger......yet


It seems like was adopted in everything but name to be honest. She lives with them, eats with them, etc

She didn't live with the Jaegers all that long, less than 2 years anyway. Not once does Eren refer to Mikasa as his sister, or Mikasa call Eren her brother.
Sep 1, 2013 8:20 AM

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zellami said:
None, ^_^

Seriously, why people insist on stuffing characters in limited or wrong tropes and complain later how characters are flat or undeveloped. Not saying that you are complaining, but what is so wrong to just leave the chick loving her guy...
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Sep 1, 2013 8:45 AM

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It is clear she is both.
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Sep 1, 2013 8:57 AM

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Neither, Mikasa cares very much if Eren dies, and is not tsundere, and while she may have some arguably yandere traits, lacks some necessary traits to deserve that label.
Sep 1, 2013 9:26 AM

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Both
Sep 1, 2013 9:28 AM

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She is a beast

Sep 1, 2013 9:51 AM

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MikasaxEren said:
She is a beast



Lol when did she say that
Sep 1, 2013 9:59 AM

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ErenxMikasa said:
MikasaxEren said:
She is a beast



Lol when did she say that

Well it was......
Sep 1, 2013 10:07 AM

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MikasaxEren said:
ErenxMikasa said:
MikasaxEren said:
She is a beast



Lol when did she say that

Well it was......


Ah okay. I should go reread the manga, so much stuff I'm forgetting
Sep 1, 2013 11:20 AM

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ravagestorm said:
Mikasa is Erendere.
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Sep 1, 2013 11:51 AM
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it would be more funny if she were a lesbian
Sep 1, 2013 11:57 AM

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There is nothing 'dere' in Mikasa.
Sep 1, 2013 12:00 PM

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Android.
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Sep 1, 2013 12:12 PM

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In before Super Saiyan Mikasa.
Sep 1, 2013 12:28 PM

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Yandere.
Sep 1, 2013 12:34 PM

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I don't really see Mikasa as a yandere. I mean, the only people she hurts because of Eren are titans. She didn't cut open Sasha's stomach to see what food Eren gave her. She hasn't attacked anybody for holding his interest yet. She's much closer to kuudere. Although when the show is all said and done I would like to see her become a deredere after she inevitably marries Eren and the two settle down.
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Sep 1, 2013 12:38 PM

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NickyCharisma said:
I don't really see Mikasa as a yandere. I mean, the only people she hurts because of Eren are titans. She didn't cut open Sasha's stomach to see what food Eren gave her. She hasn't attacked anybody for holding his interest yet. She's much closer to kuudere. Although when the show is all said and done I would like to see her become a deredere after she inevitably marries Eren and the two settle down.

In episode ~9? she threatens the soldiers who are ready to attack Eren "My specialty is slicing flesh" she also has her moment where she is about to try and murder Levi before Armin stops her.
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MikasaxEren said:
NickyCharisma said:
I don't really see Mikasa as a yandere. I mean, the only people she hurts because of Eren are titans. She didn't cut open Sasha's stomach to see what food Eren gave her. She hasn't attacked anybody for holding his interest yet. She's much closer to kuudere. Although when the show is all said and done I would like to see her become a deredere after she inevitably marries Eren and the two settle down.

In episode ~9? she threatens the soldiers who are ready to attack Eren "My specialty is slicing flesh" she also has her moment where she is about to try and murder Levi before Armin stops her.

I stand corrected! I still think that she is overwhelmingly kuudere though. Thanks for pointing out things that I overlooked.
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Sep 1, 2013 2:32 PM

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Lol ......the first time it crossed my mind .......she could actually be in the Yandere category also
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More of a Kuudere than a Yandere, but she shows hints a both.
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Mikasa is Erendere.


^ This.

Mikasa comes across more as a person than a 1D cutout that can be easily placed in a group due to her childhood trauma having molded her and made her indebted/fall for Eren. She's overprotective to the point of being motherly/annoying but hasn't shown any outward jealous-anger over, for example, Armin getting more attention than her. She ain't no yandere; she's just totally dependent on Eren. And she sure as hell ain't similar to Rei from Evangelion: she's very expressive emotionally when it matters/when Eren is involved.

...ERENDERE!
Sep 1, 2013 4:11 PM

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Why isn't "None" an option?
Sep 1, 2013 4:16 PM

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AironicallyHuman said:
ravagestorm said:
Mikasa is Erendere.


^ This.

Mikasa comes across more as a person than a 1D cutout that can be easily placed in a group due to her childhood trauma having molded her and made her indebted/fall for Eren. She's overprotective to the point of being motherly/annoying but hasn't shown any outward jealous-anger over, for example, Armin getting more attention than her. She ain't no yandere; she's just totally dependent on Eren. And she sure as hell ain't similar to Rei from Evangelion: she's very expressive emotionally when it matters/when Eren is involved.

...ERENDERE!
She hasn't shown any jealousy
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Robot.
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Robot.

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Deconstruction ≠ Darker & Edgier
Trope ≠ Cliché (Face it, nothing is completely original. Can't make something from nothing so to say.).
Fanservice ≠ Ecchi (Though ecchi can please the fans!)
Popular ≠ Sucks... maybe
Seinen = K-ON! Shounen, Shoujo, Seinen and Josei are demographics.
Anime/Manga = Japanese Cartoons! Deal with it.

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Sep 1, 2013 10:44 PM

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Bitch.
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Sep 6, 2013 3:12 AM

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She's a YanKuu
Sep 6, 2013 6:19 AM

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Mixed, but I'd like to think she is not in the dere trope since she only show her dere side in ep 12, when Squad Leader Ian refer Eren as her boyfriend.
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Why isn't "None" an option?


not because she is both :]!
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All I know is Mikasa is badass.
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All I know is Mikasa is badass.


Yup
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misaka was never a yandere. she is a kuudere/tsundere. normally she is a kuudere, very cool and collected, looks bad ass when fighting. but she becomes a tsundere when around touma.

index is moe/tsundere. tsundere when she is hungry which will be half the time.
Wrong series lol
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