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Aug 23, 2013 8:46 AM
#1
Sorry if this already exist... Well, what do you think? Theory: Eren: "Eren" is a Turkish name that means "saint". "Jaeger" is clearly German and a variation for Jäger, which means "hunter". By that logic, Eren has Turkish and German roots. The German part was obvious from the beginning, everyone can tell right away just from the name. But the possibility of turkish ancestry doesn't surprise me. It's going to sound silly, but I'll say it anyway. Way before I considered the origins of his name and thought of it as merely the japanese way of pronouncing "Helen", I thought that during the ending credits he looked Turkish. He is drawn differently than usual, of course, to the point I started referring to him as "Turkish Eren" whenever his close up came up. I found that even Mikasa gave me strong vibes for a nationality which we will discuss later. Based on their names, I turned out to be spot on about both of them! Anyway, it's just an ending sequence, doesn't say much, right? True, let's consider his appearance canonically. To put it simply, Eren doesn't look non-Turkish. In fact, it's obvious he's not 100% Western European like other characters appear to be (*cough* Armin *cough*). The same way Mikasa looks Asian you could say, but then again a lot of us will have been affected by the japanese sounding name. He's fairly tan, and although I wouldn't call Turkish people tan the same way I wouldn't call Greek people that, it's a sort of common trait. Not as much as people would think, but then again pale-as-a-ghost me, after getting enough sun to become less white and more golden (by no means tan), I was called that in England. So, even though I wouldn't call Turkish people tan, perhaps a foreigner or a non-Mediterranean person would. So Eren's skin tone can count as evidence to support a Turkish ancestry. I might also mention his very bright eye colour. We get a lot of Turkish shows over here now that we're too bankrupt to produce our own, and most of the actors have really light eyes. Even though they aren't uncommon for Europeans, they will be combined with fairer skin and hair. The difference with them is that they'll have dark hair and skin that isn't really light (not necessarily dark in my opinion, though it can be the case). That set of colouring, along with more Eastern rather than Western-looking features, it's possible. Of course you don't look at him and go "Turkish, no doubt about it", especially when it's likely that he's mixed with German. If we take a look at his mother, she's more like it. From the first time I saw her, I thought she must have come from the eastern side of the european scale. Hadn't necessarily thought as far as Turkey, definitely not beyond that. Not much I can say about his father. I really can't tell. But if someone told me he's German, I'd believe them. Considering Jaeger is his last name, it's most likely the case. Mikasa Ackerman:"Mikasa" sounds japanese and "Ackerman" sounds German. Yes, "Mikasa" it is in fact japanese, which makes sense since it's established that she has Asian ancestry. "Ackerman" is German for "fieldman", but it's also associated with Åkerman, a swedish surname. The reason I'm bringing this up is because during the ending credits I thought she looked Scandinavian (Norwegian to be more specific, but that's just what popped into my head first). We know for sure her mother was Asian, Japanese most likely, considering Mikasa's name. Her father was not. He could have been either German or Swedish, but if hair colour is an indication, Swedish is a bigger possibility. We'll leave it at that. Pick the theory you like. Armin Arlert: This is a toughie. For "Arlert" the best I could find is that it's a surname used in Sweden. It's meaning is unknown. As for "Armin", I had the opposite problem; too many origins.To name a few from Wikipedia, it's a Persian name, a Germanic name, even an Ancient Greek name. With the power of logic and a quick Google search, we can rule out 1 and 3 and keep that it's German, with Herman as a variant. For blond and blue-eyed Armin Scandinavian or German roots aren't surprising. Sasha Braus: It's hard to tell from "Sasha". We're looking at Germany, Russia and many others. Her surname doesn't make things any easier since it's hard to figure out how it's actually spelled. If we take "Braus", we get German for roaring. Her appearance doesn't give many clues. She doesn't have any features that pinpoint to a certain ancestry or rule many out, so German is the most probable. Jean Kirstein: Even though "Jean" is a french name, any spelling of "Kirstein" is german. All we get from his look is that he's Caucasian, most likely Western European. With the presence of this many german names, at this point we can start to speculate about what geographical area the walls cover. I'd say France to be honest, because we can already guess it's in Europe and because of the climate, but it could be near the south of Germany. I wouldn't place it too north (doesn't rain that much), but not that close to the Mediterranean either. But I would say more south than north of course. It looks like it's warm there. Annie Leonhart: "Leonhart" comes up with German and Dutch, and if I had to guess I'd say it means "lion's heart". It's Annie we're talking about, it's not unlikely. Her first name is too common to be found in one or even a small bunch of countries. A lot of people go on about her being Russian, but since I've not read the manga to know if it's stated (and to be frank, I don't believe it is), I can't take it into account. I don't know whether it has anything to do with her look. Then again, sexy blonde women can be found in different parts of the world, Netherlands and Germany included. With everything we have now, they are the safest assumptions. Connie Springer: "Connie" is a name of Latin origin, short for "Constance" and "Springer" has Middle English and Swedish origins. It shares roots with the German, Dutch and Yiddish words for "leap". His look also doesn't give many clues other than Caucasian, but from his name we can assume he is Western European, most likely German since so far all characters seem to have such an ancestry. Reiner Braun: Not much analysis needed. He's German. Bertolt Hoover: Same here Marco Bott: "Bott" is an unusual German surname and "Marco" is a name deriving from the Latin "Marcus" and used in many countries. Also most likely German. Krista Lenz: This is an interesting case. Her first name is an eastern European form of the name "Christian" according to Wikipedia and "Lenz", which had many spelling and variants, ultimately stems from "Laurentium", literally the city of laurels. It's associated with names such as Lawrence and Laurens. It became a popular name among Christians, and here is where it gets interesting. Also according to Wikipedia, "Krista" means "follower of Christ". With a very European look and "Lenz" being a German surname, she is probably German, perhaps eastern German. Ymir: This is the best one! "Ymir" is a Nordic name and is used in Iceland. "Ymir" is also a figure in Norse mythology. Interestingly enough, that figure is male and the name seems to be used for males exclusively. Erwin Smith: "Erwin" is a Germanic name and "Smith" is a name that originated in England. That along with his look point towards a German and English ancestry. Levi: Some people spell it "Rivaille" and wrongly assume he is French. He isn't since "Rivaille isn't his bloody name. Now that we've heard it in the anime enough, we know it is pronounced "Ribai". Which do you think is closer? So, "Levi" is the Hebrew word for "joining" and in the Bible he was the founder of the Tribe of Levi. Now heicho's appearance is pretty ambiguous in my opinion and I can't really determine his nationality from that. The safest assumption is that he is Jewish, specifically from the Israelite Tribe of Levi. According to Jewish tradition (and Wikipedia) people with that surname are Levites. That might not be the case though, since it's not definite whether Levi is his first or last name. (EDIT: It's Levi not Rivaille. Who else but the author himself on his official twitter can confirm this? If you search his blog well enough, you might also find it there, along with how he came across the name in the first place. By the way, it supports my Jewish heritage theory.) Hanji Zoe: Couldn't find anything definite on "Hanji", as for "Zoe" it's a name used in many countries. It originates from the Greek word for life, but since "Hanji" isn't Greek, we can't conclude that she is. Also, I don't believe of all people any Greeks would have survived (then again, with so many of them living in Germany, you never know). If Mikasa is the last Asian when the Chinese population is well over a billion, I really don't think there's a great chance many would have survived out of a pool of ten million. Conclusion; nationality unknown. Compare this; Shingeki No Kyoyin's origin could be from "Osnabrück" http://www.klaes-w.de/fotos/owl/owl_nachtrag/osnabrueck_stadtpanorama_6724sqx.jpg http://www.das-energieportal.de/uploads/pics/Dom_Osnabrueck.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2704/4200553968_e519d2fc0b_o.jpg |
SiendoOct 7, 2013 6:49 AM
Aug 23, 2013 9:12 AM
#4
So maybe the Titans are actually Russian? Nope, SnK takes place in a fictional universe and the characters have no connection to any real nationalities at all. Although It does take inspiration from European/Asian influences... that doesn't mean that they are necessarily european or asian. |
Aug 23, 2013 9:13 AM
#5
LeCan said: Reiner Braun: Not much analysis needed. He's German. Bertolt Hoover: Same here Interesting |
Aug 23, 2013 9:17 AM
#6
@Tsuyuu: Are you sure? @All: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tiryns_-_Cyclopean_masonry.jpg Looks like outside the walls :D |
Aug 23, 2013 10:56 AM
#7
So the entire manga is a German propaganda? Btw Eren could also be a variant of "Erin" of Irish origin,meaning "One who is from Ireland". |
Aug 23, 2013 11:05 AM
#8
Ooh, finally a SnK thread that isn't solely dedicated to character bashing. Kudos to you, OP. |
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Aug 23, 2013 11:12 AM
#9
Very interesting. But i'm not sure that the world of the manga can be comparable with the our. |
Aug 23, 2013 11:24 AM
#10
It doesn't make sense to me how you can look at someone in an anime and say they "look Turkish". |
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Aug 23, 2013 5:57 PM
#11
Levi a jew never would've have guessed. I like the different ancestry brings more originality, I remember 1st watching the anime and assuming everyone was Asian lol. I still laugh at the people who make a big deal at the fact there aren't many black,asian and hispanic characters and it makes the anime "unrealistic" when it actually makes it 10x more realistic. |
Aug 23, 2013 6:01 PM
#12
interesting. I would love the fact that if Eren is actually half Turkish!! :) |
Aug 23, 2013 6:18 PM
#13
Aug 23, 2013 6:29 PM
#14
TallonKarrde23 said: Russian women don't have mallet noses Why, they actually do. Nowdays Russians are one crazy hotchpotch of dozens nationalities mixed together, you can meet people of various facial features there. That being said, Leonhart clearly implies German or Scandinavian origin imo. |
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Aug 23, 2013 8:16 PM
#15
I don't think that the setting is actually ours, but it sure does borrow a lot. The Jaegers are wogs Mediterranean eh? Well... Familiar with Keith Shadis? He sure doesn't seem European to me. He also seems to know Grisha, Eren's dad. Maybe they are connected? While Ymir has a North European name, she really doesn't look like one. In fact, she probably shares Eren's nationality. Open-Dice said: It doesn't make sense to me how you can look at someone in an anime and say they "look Turkish". Have you seen wogs Mediterranean/Arabic people before? They are pretty everyday to me. It wouldn't far fetched to say that he is one. This anime does an interesting job of depicting various ethnicities. I'm usually hard pressed to say most characters of 'japanese' background are really japanese. The characters here are different. To me, Mikasa is clearly half asian in looks. Now Levi a Jew... |
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Aug 24, 2013 4:57 AM
#16
Those are some pretty interesting nationalities theory that you've got there. Especially for a couple of them and the meaning of their names. I guess the author didn't abruptly choose a name out of nowhere after all :) |
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Aug 24, 2013 5:44 AM
#17
Estherella said: Those are some pretty interesting nationalities theory that you've got there. Especially for a couple of them and the meaning of their names. I guess the author didn't abruptly choose a name out of nowhere after all :) As a manga reader, I've come up with a little theory. I'll post a more organised one in the manga forums later, but I really want to reply.This concerns a plot theory, so anime only readers get out. Could Eren's family have come from outside the walls? Maybe Grisha returned to see why the heck the outside world decided to attack them. They might have him captive now since they killed his wife and because of that, he's understandably mad at them. His reasons for being inside the walls then... |
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Aug 24, 2013 6:22 PM
#19
HalfMetalJacket said: Estherella said: Those are some pretty interesting nationalities theory that you've got there. Especially for a couple of them and the meaning of their names. I guess the author didn't abruptly choose a name out of nowhere after all :) As a manga reader, I've come up with a little theory. I'll post a more organised one in the manga forums later, but I really want to reply.This concerns a plot theory, so anime only readers get out. Could Eren's family have come from outside the walls? Maybe Grisha returned to see why the heck the outside world decided to attack them. They might have him captive now since they killed his wife and because of that, he's understandably mad at them. His reasons for being inside the walls then... Like Reiner or Berthold. "Warrior" what could he mean? |
Aug 24, 2013 9:46 PM
#20
HalfMetalJacket said: Estherella said: Those are some pretty interesting nationalities theory that you've got there. Especially for a couple of them and the meaning of their names. I guess the author didn't abruptly choose a name out of nowhere after all :) As a manga reader, I've come up with a little theory. I'll post a more organised one in the manga forums later, but I really want to reply.This concerns a plot theory, so anime only readers get out. Could Eren's family have come from outside the walls? Maybe Grisha returned to see why the heck the outside world decided to attack them. They might have him captive now since they killed his wife and because of that, he's understandably mad at them. His reasons for being inside the walls then... Nothing to read here, anime-viewers, out you go. Come if you'ready for it! That seemed like a possibility. But i don't see any reasons as to why he would live inside the wall in the first place and why he would save everyone inside the wall if he's from the outside world. Remember how there was an epidemic and Grisha saved them because he was a doctor? Grisha also told Eren to save the people inside the wall right? I think it would makes more sense if Grisha actually came from inside the wall than the outside because it would explains why he would save those people inside the wall in the first place. Perhaps he have some sort of deals or agreement with people outside the wall which is why he always leave on a trip but since this shit happens so he resent them for it because he plays a part in it or something so maybe now he's with them to investigate about the people from outside the walls and spy on them? I think he definitely has a reason as to why he leave on a trip all the time and why he suddenly disappears. There's no doubt that it is related to people from the outside. I'm sorry if you don't get what i'm trying to say @.@.... |
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Aug 24, 2013 11:30 PM
#21
LeCan said: Levi: Some people spell it "Rivaille" and wrongly assume he is French. He isn't since "Rivaille isn't his bloody name. Now that we've heard it in the anime enough, we know it is pronounced "Ribai". Which do you think is closer? So, "Levi" is the Hebrew word for "joining" and in the Bible he was the founder of the Tribe of Levi. Now heicho's appearance is pretty ambiguous in my opinion and I can't really determine his nationality from that. The safest assumption is that he is Jewish, specifically from the Israelite Tribe of Levi. According to Jewish tradition (and Wikipedia) people with that surname are Levites. That might not be the case though, since it's not definite whether Levi is his first or last name. (EDIT: It's Levi not Rivaille. Who else but the author himself on his official twitter can confirm this? If you search his blog well enough, you might also find it there, along with how he came across the name in the first place. By the way, it supports my Jewish heritage theory.) The thing with Levi is, although his name has Hebrew roots, it's pronounced the English way. In both Hebrew and German, Levi is pronounced 'Leh-vee'. However, in the series it's pronounced 'Lee-vie'. I don't know if this is how it's pronounced in the UK, but I know for certain it is in the US. LeCan said: Hanji Zoe: Couldn't find anything definite on "Hanji", as for "Zoe" it's a name used in many countries. It originates from the Greek word for life, but since "Hanji" isn't Greek, we can't conclude that she is. Also, I don't believe of all people any Greeks would have survived (then again, with so many of them living in Germany, you never know). If Mikasa is the last Asian when the Chinese population is well over a billion, I really don't think there's a great chance many would have survived out of a pool of ten million. Conclusion; nationality unknown. Her name is officially Zoe Hange. Originally oriented Hange Zoe in the official Kodansha released manga uses Zoe Hange. The 'family name first' orientation exists in certain parts of Germany/Austria in the west, apparently. Source: http://seireina.blogspot.de/2013/07/the-nationality-of-shingeki-no-kyojin.html People think that the city in SnK could possibly be modeled after Carcassonne, France. |
Aug 25, 2013 1:08 AM
#22
Estherella said: HalfMetalJacket said: Estherella said: Those are some pretty interesting nationalities theory that you've got there. Especially for a couple of them and the meaning of their names. I guess the author didn't abruptly choose a name out of nowhere after all :) As a manga reader, I've come up with a little theory. I'll post a more organised one in the manga forums later, but I really want to reply.This concerns a plot theory, so anime only readers get out. Could Eren's family have come from outside the walls? Maybe Grisha returned to see why the heck the outside world decided to attack them. They might have him captive now since they killed his wife and because of that, he's understandably mad at them. His reasons for being inside the walls then... Nothing to read here, anime-viewers, out you go. Come if you'ready for it! That seemed like a possibility. But i don't see any reasons as to why he would live inside the wall in the first place and why he would save everyone inside the wall if he's from the outside world. Remember how there was an epidemic and Grisha saved them because he was a doctor? Grisha also told Eren to save the people inside the wall right? I think it would makes more sense if Grisha actually came from inside the wall than the outside because it would explains why he would save those people inside the wall in the first place. Perhaps he have some sort of deals or agreement with people outside the wall which is why he always leave on a trip but since this shit happens so he resent them for it because he plays a part in it or something so maybe now he's with them to investigate about the people from outside the walls and spy on them? I think he definitely has a reason as to why he leave on a trip all the time and why he suddenly disappears. There's no doubt that it is related to people from the outside. I'm sorry if you don't get what i'm trying to say @.@.... Check the manga theories thread, I've expanded on the idea. |
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Aug 25, 2013 3:45 AM
#23
There are lots of Anime anyway who are adopting European names, so I guess they are most likely Europeans. Other anime that adopts are, Fairy Tail, One Piece, Bleach, etc. |
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Aug 25, 2013 4:41 AM
#24
pauro19 said: There are lots of Anime anyway who are adopting European names, so I guess they are most likely Europeans. Other anime that adopts are, Fairy Tail, One Piece, Bleach, etc. Yeah, but unlike those series you've mentioned, ethnicity seems to play a larger part in this setting. |
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Aug 25, 2013 4:46 AM
#25
HalfMetalJacket said: pauro19 said: There are lots of Anime anyway who are adopting European names, so I guess they are most likely Europeans. Other anime that adopts are, Fairy Tail, One Piece, Bleach, etc. Yeah, but unlike those series you've mentioned, ethnicity seems to play a larger part in this setting. Oh, I didn't suspect but is very much willing to listen. I really like this anime because it's very realistic, I mean, it's just a normal life that is btched by this giants, and simply just want a normal life back. It's like patriotism. |
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Aug 30, 2013 3:55 PM
#26
Tsuyuu said: So maybe the Titans are actually Russian? Nope, SnK takes place in a fictional universe and the characters have no connection to any real nationalities at all. Although It does take inspiration from European/Asian influences... that doesn't mean that they are necessarily european or asian. "If one thing is for sure, it is that they have what we would call a nationality since it's set in the real world. There are people that doubt this, but at this point it is definite. In episode 11 (look away if you haven't watched it) Pixis mentions wars that happened in the past over things like race and religion." Look at my Copy and Paste skills. |
Aug 30, 2013 8:15 PM
#27
LeCan said: With the presence of this many german names, at this point we can start to speculate about what geographical area the walls cover. I'd say France to be honest, because we can already guess it's in Europe and because of the climate, but it could be near the south of Germany. I wouldn't place it too north (doesn't rain that much), but not that close to the Mediterranean either. But I would say more south than north of course. It looks like it's warm there. That assumes that this world has the same geography as our earth... which is unconfirmed, unless I'm missing something. On the other hand, the de-cipdered text on the manga volume covers say something to the effect that: the titans chased them across the ocean, and they found the walls in the new world, in which case, that would imply that they're in the states somewhere. Makes sense, as given the size of the walls, if it is in Western Europe, ocean should be visible from atop wall maria on a good day. But I wonder if that implies anything? Quite a few people did emigrate across the ocean from Germany to America, once upon a time. About Krista: This is a spoiler if you have not read up to about chapter 40 in the manga, but what do you make of her actual name, History Reiss? Also I've heard many people say that Annie's name is significant in the context of Norse mythology. Supposedly, if you understand the significance, it gives away quite a lot. As I'm too lazy to dive into norse mythology and largely immune to spoilers due to being caught up in the manga, any chance of somebody putting together a tl;dr explanation of this? |
Aug 31, 2013 3:46 AM
#29
Doubt this really is of any interest, but in my country (Bosnia and Herzegovina), Armin is a muslim name. The name is also very popular in the Middle East (looking past stereotypes: there are a lot of blonde people in the M/E). In latin Armin means a noble warrior and loyal person. In Hebrew it means "a high place". In Germanic it means soldier. The name appears to have come from the name names Ermen/Herman. In German it means comprehensive and large. |
ChitaiAug 31, 2013 3:52 AM
Aug 31, 2013 5:02 AM
#30
Lenalee1 said: It's a germanic name which means either a huge eagle or a powerful eagle-slayer.Doubt this really is of any interest, but in my country (Bosnia and Herzegovina), Armin is a muslim name. The name is also very popular in the Middle East (looking past stereotypes: there are a lot of blonde people in the M/E). In latin Armin means a noble warrior and loyal person. |
Aug 31, 2013 7:02 AM
#31
Candior said: It's a germanic name which means either a huge eagle or a powerful eagle-slayer. About time you said something useful around here ; ). At least as far as I've seen anyway. |
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Aug 31, 2013 7:38 AM
#32
HalfMetalJacket said: Thanks for the warning. though I was trying to prove lenalee1 wrong. Anyway I'll try to avoid doing it again.Candior said: It's a germanic name which means either a huge eagle or a powerful eagle-slayer. About time you said something useful around here ; ). At least as far as I've seen anyway. |
Aug 31, 2013 7:59 AM
#33
Candior said: It's a germanic name which means either a huge eagle or a powerful eagle-slayer. Can't say you proved me much wrong though. Where exactly did you find that since I literally can't see it being mentioned anywhere? There was an "Arminius" but he was neither an actual eagle nor an eagle slayer (there's a big difference between those two in my opinion). |
Aug 31, 2013 8:30 AM
#34
I think those names are just to show the mixture of races (like "see, this is a little post-apocalyptic multinational town"), I don't really believe they've gone this deep to forge the characters. I'm Turkish and Eren as an anime character seemed just like an average anime boy to me. I didn't believe the name was Turkish at the beginning though, thought there probably is a japanese name or pronunciation for a gakujin name like that. Also I've never heard Armin before, don't think it is a common muslim name. TallonKarrde23 said: Annie has a massive nose, she's clearly somewhat Jewish and not in the faith way. Russian women don't have mallet noses, neither do the dutch or most Germans. As far as I know that is one hell of a Russian nose. |
AdramelechAug 31, 2013 8:36 AM
Aug 31, 2013 8:30 AM
#35
Lenalee1 said: b-but.. I just said I'll not try being helpful again.. but females (even if they're traps, not saying you are, but in general I mean) > males, so here:Candior said: It's a germanic name which means either a huge eagle or a powerful eagle-slayer. Can't say you proved me much wrong though. Where exactly did you find that since I literally can't see it being mentioned anywhere? There was an "Arminius" but he was neither an actual eagle nor an eagle slayer (there's a big difference between those two in my opinion). Armin is Ermana, which means big (whether in size or in popularity) in germanic, and the old-german Arm, which makes the word mean both Eagle and Eagle-slayer (Homonyms). Sometimes the name is translated to "The big Protector" too. The name does have some middle-eastern origins too though, egyptian or persian, but I doubt the author based the name on that, since let's face it, although there are blond people in the middle east, they are still not that many compared to the rest black-haired ones. |
Candor123Aug 31, 2013 11:22 AM
Aug 31, 2013 10:26 AM
#36
Lenalee1 said: Doubt this really is of any interest, but in my country (Bosnia and Herzegovina), Armin is a muslim name. The name is also very popular in the Middle East (looking past stereotypes: there are a lot of blonde people in the M/E). In latin Armin means a noble warrior and loyal person. In Hebrew it means "a high place". In Germanic it means soldier. The name appears to have come from the name names Ermen/Herman. In German it means comprehensive and large. Don't worry, you're right. But I think German fits better- |
SiendoOct 23, 2013 9:58 AM
Sep 7, 2013 12:44 AM
#37
Sep 14, 2013 1:13 AM
#38
sim0n2170 said: http://funnymama.com/store/130527/180544_v0_600x.jpg ´? |
Sep 14, 2013 1:47 AM
#39
LeCan said: sim0n2170 said: http://funnymama.com/store/130527/180544_v0_600x.jpg ´? Oh. I guess they took it down, it was ment to be this anyway http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1367/87/1367872800685.jpg |
Sep 14, 2013 2:31 AM
#40
sim0n2170 said: LeCan said: sim0n2170 said: http://funnymama.com/store/130527/180544_v0_600x.jpg ´? Oh. I guess they took it down, it was ment to be this anyway http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1367/87/1367872800685.jpg Ymir does not strike me as Scandinavian one bit. I'm guessing the nationalities used there are assuming them based on names though. Don't think Americans exist in this universe anyway. They're roughly based on us though. |
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Sep 14, 2013 8:46 AM
#41
HalfMetalJacket said: sim0n2170 said: LeCan said: sim0n2170 said: http://funnymama.com/store/130527/180544_v0_600x.jpg ´? Oh. I guess they took it down, it was ment to be this anyway http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1367/87/1367872800685.jpg Ymir does not strike me as Scandinavian one bit. I'm guessing the nationalities used there are assuming them based on names though. Don't think Americans exist in this universe anyway. They're roughly based on us though. Well most white Americans are just a mixture of European nationalities anyway, so technically there are a lot of what people would consider white Americans in the series. |
Sep 14, 2013 12:12 PM
#42
skittle316 said: Levi a jew never would've have guessed. I like the different ancestry brings more originality, I remember 1st watching the anime and assuming everyone was Asian lol. I still laugh at the people who make a big deal at the fact there aren't many black,asian and hispanic characters and it makes the anime "unrealistic" when it actually makes it 10x more realistic. How is that realistic when Asia and Africa make up the top two percentages of world population respectively? Asians are 60% of the world population, Africans 14% and Europeans only 11%. If the show was realistic, that's what the percentage of characters would be, BUT This doesn't bother me, I understand that this is fiction and anime and it's not realistic. Also, the author lives in a world where he's probably mostly only exposed to Japanese and Caucasian culture, so it makes sense sense that his art would either focus around Japanese or white people. Just wanted to correct you on the realistic comment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_world |
Sep 14, 2013 1:41 PM
#43
I'll appologise myself in advance, because I don't remember when and where I read it, but one of the theories on Heichou's name was that his it consists of initials - L. V. - and "Leeviii" is just a way to pronounce it. Another one, related to the above, was about his name is abbreviation of some goddess of petty thieves' name, ... but I have yet to find the name of goddess first. Has anybody met these theories? Should be around 2011-12 I stumbled upon them. |
Sep 14, 2013 2:33 PM
#44
Christ how long did it take you to conjure up that theory op |
Sep 14, 2013 2:35 PM
#45
sim0n2170 said: LeCan said: sim0n2170 said: http://funnymama.com/store/130527/180544_v0_600x.jpg ´? Oh. I guess they took it down, it was ment to be this anyway http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1367/87/1367872800685.jpg That pic is kind of funny Eren looks like he is 10 years old, Levi's eyes are the wrong color and I think quite a few of the nationalities are wrong too. |
Sep 14, 2013 5:43 PM
#46
sim0n2170 said: LeCan said: sim0n2170 said: http://funnymama.com/store/130527/180544_v0_600x.jpg ´? Oh. I guess they took it down, it was ment to be this anyway http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1367/87/1367872800685.jpg So many Americans! I sincerely doubt it. |
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Sep 14, 2013 8:57 PM
#47
LOL @ americans trying to claim everything is americans. |
Sep 15, 2013 3:14 AM
#48
sim0n2170 said: LeCan said: sim0n2170 said: http://funnymama.com/store/130527/180544_v0_600x.jpg ´? Oh. I guess they took it down, it was ment to be this anyway http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1367/87/1367872800685.jpg This picture is wrong. Mikasa American? Why? Well, the whole picture is wrong. |
Sep 15, 2013 3:16 AM
#49
LeCan said: sim0n2170 said: LeCan said: sim0n2170 said: http://funnymama.com/store/130527/180544_v0_600x.jpg ´? Oh. I guess they took it down, it was ment to be this anyway http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1367/87/1367872800685.jpg This picture is wrong. Mikasa American? Why? Well, the whole picture is wrong. Japanese American. But the guy that labelled the picture assumes Mikasa's dad is American. He probably ain't though. |
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