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May 30, 2013 7:58 PM
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Anyone find the prices for aniplex DVDs a bit high I get that their selling stuff that's worth at least what they're going for in regards to Gurren Lagann but god damn everything else JUST came out. I understand they're trying to establish themselves as a distributor like Viz Funi or Sentai but damn guys your not doing a good job
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Get a job.
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thay use proper pricing good for them
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Well I do but prices for blu rays with only 4 episodes of a 24 episode anime that really isn't that good at around 200 dollars a set is insane I mean yeah I know collecting is supposed to require patience but seriously 200
May 30, 2013 8:03 PM
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Aniplex is owned by Sony. Direct your complaints that-a-way.
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thay use Japanese pricing so the person they liecsesd form gt more money unile what funimaation do
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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May 30, 2013 8:06 PM
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Don't buy them, then. Save money, live better.
May 30, 2013 8:08 PM
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I hate that they're using the same economy they use in Japan Lagann seems worth the buy for bragging rights but honestly I don't know how long they'll be in business but I'm not there and I'm not even gonna start ranting about something I don't even know about
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DateYutaka said:
thay use proper pricing good for them

How is that proper pricing? Every other company in the US charges prices considerably cheaper than Aniplex.
Aniplex, 4 episodes of Madoka Magica, no extra special packaging, bluray: 40 dollars.
Funimation, 52 episodes of Soul Eater, no extra special packaging, bluray, 25 dollars.

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Aniplex is owned by Sony. Direct your complaints that-a-way.

They could probably direct their complaints at Aniplex and still get answers.
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Battlechili1 said:
DateYutaka said:
thay use proper pricing good for them

How is that proper pricing? Every other company in the US charges prices considerably cheaper than Aniplex.
Aniplex, 4 episodes of Madoka Magica, no extra special packaging, bluray: 40 dollars.
Funimation, 52 episodes of Soul Eater, no extra special packaging, bluray, 25 dollars.



Quality over quantity.
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DateYutaka said:
thay use Japanese pricing so the person they liecsesd form gt more money unile what funimaation do
They sell to Americans, so we expect US prices. Funimation's prices are in line with other TV series. Aniplex (as far as I know) is the only one that sells anime to Americans at ridiculous prices.
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Quite honestly Naruto is overrated if you ask me and BladeRunner is for a certain audience if you ask me because that movie bores the shit outta me even though I have to admit it it's a damn good movie
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Ntad said:


Quality over quantity.

The packaging doesn't seem to be much higher quality.
If you mean the shows themselves, that's still very excessive.
Perhaps another example.
Aniplex, 9 episodes of Durarara, dvd, slip cover added: 40 dollars.
Funimation: 26 episodes of Spice and Wolf, bluray/dvd: 35 dollars.
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Exactly
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*looks at Sword Art Online US release prices*

*looks at wallet*

*sadface*

This is why I get that hint of disappointment when I see Aniplex snatch away a good series.
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Battlechili1 said:
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Quality over quantity.

The packaging doesn't seem to be much higher quality.
If you mean the shows themselves, that's still very excessive.
Perhaps another example.
Aniplex, 9 episodes of Durarara, dvd, slip cover added: 40 dollars.
Funimation: 26 episodes of Spice and Wolf, bluray/dvd: 35 dollars.


I'm talking about the shows. Pricing is usually assessed based on the losses incurred during production. Profits are also considered, but I highly doubt they're price gouging.

I'd be willing to bet Madoka's production overall cost more than Soul Eater. I could be wrong though.
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*looks at Sword Art Online US release prices*

*looks at wallet*

*sadface*

This is why I get that hint of disappointment when I see Aniplex snatch away a good series.

The sad part is Aniplex gets a hold of most of my favorites. My top 5 favorite anime currently are Gurren Lagann, Madoka Magica, Durarara!!, Bakemonogatari, and Attack On Titan.
Aniplex got a hold of 4 of those.
They used to only have 3 before they got Gurren.
*sadface* indeed
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Get a job.


Dude... their selling SAO the whole series for $600. Job or no job, I'm not paying that much.
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Get a job.


Dude... their selling SAO the whole series for $600. Job or no job, I'm not paying that much.
Inb4 SAO hate.

But honestly. Who spends that kind of money on television?

That's like hardcore nerd shit.
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But honestly. Who spends that kind of money on television?
Exactly. $600 for a 25-episode series? The fuck?
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You can call it ridiculous, but you can't call it unfair.

You don't have to buy it.
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thay use Japanese pricing so the person they liecsesd form gt more money unile what funimaation do

Not just Funimation is cheaper.
Viz Media, Nozomi, and Sentai Filmworks seem to be cheaper too.
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Battlechili1 said:
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You can call it ridiculous, but you can't call it unfair.

You don't have to buy it.

How is it not unfair?
Think about it; Let's say you like to buy anime you like. Every company you buy from offers what you like at reasonable prices. Then another company comes along and picks up one of your favorite series and you really want it, but they put it out at an insane price. Is it not unfair that that company is keeping you from your favorite anime, at least a little?


They aren't keeping it from you, you just can't afford it.
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Battlechili1 said:
Red_Keys said:
You can call it ridiculous, but you can't call it unfair.

You don't have to buy it.

How is it not unfair?
Think about it; Let's say you like to buy anime you like. Every company you buy from offers what you like at reasonable prices. Then another company comes along and picks up one of your favorite series and you really want it, but they put it out at an insane price. Is it not unfair that that company is keeping you from your favorite anime, at least a little?
No, not in the slightest.

That company can do whatever they damnwell please. If you think you are being cheated in some way, start your own licensing company and do it better. They're willing to put in the work, and they have every right to demand whatever price they want.
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Red_Keys said:
Doflamingo45 said:
Neane1993 said:
Get a job.


Dude... their selling SAO the whole series for $600. Job or no job, I'm not paying that much.
Inb4 SAO hate.

But honestly. Who spends that kind of money on television?

That's like hardcore nerd shit.
My point in a nutshell
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Ntad said:
Battlechili1 said:
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You can call it ridiculous, but you can't call it unfair.

You don't have to buy it.

How is it not unfair?
Think about it; Let's say you like to buy anime you like. Every company you buy from offers what you like at reasonable prices. Then another company comes along and picks up one of your favorite series and you really want it, but they put it out at an insane price. Is it not unfair that that company is keeping you from your favorite anime, at least a little?


They aren't keeping it from you, you just can't afford it.

I bought Durarara!! Limited Edition Bluray set from them for 150 dollars, with some help.
I can afford it given the time.
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Battlechili1 said:
Ntad said:
Battlechili1 said:
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You can call it ridiculous, but you can't call it unfair.

You don't have to buy it.

How is it not unfair?
Think about it; Let's say you like to buy anime you like. Every company you buy from offers what you like at reasonable prices. Then another company comes along and picks up one of your favorite series and you really want it, but they put it out at an insane price. Is it not unfair that that company is keeping you from your favorite anime, at least a little?


They aren't keeping it from you, you just can't afford it.

I bought Durarara!! Limited Edition Bluray set from them for 150 dollars, with some help.
I can afford it given the time.


And you have answered your own plight.
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Red_Keys said:
Battlechili1 said:
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You can call it ridiculous, but you can't call it unfair.

You don't have to buy it.

How is it not unfair?
Think about it; Let's say you like to buy anime you like. Every company you buy from offers what you like at reasonable prices. Then another company comes along and picks up one of your favorite series and you really want it, but they put it out at an insane price. Is it not unfair that that company is keeping you from your favorite anime, at least a little?
No, not in the slightest.

That company can do whatever they damnwell please. If you think you are being cheated in some way, start your own licensing company and do it better. They're willing to put in the work, and they have every right to demand whatever price they want.

Weren't some companies hated and considered illegal in the past for taking over every part of an industry and starting a monopoly in which they can charge whatever they want for it, rather than setting prices based on competition?
It might be worth noting that Aniplex seems to license anime that its helped work on.
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Battlechili1 said:
Ntad said:
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You can call it ridiculous, but you can't call it unfair.

You don't have to buy it.

How is it not unfair?
Think about it; Let's say you like to buy anime you like. Every company you buy from offers what you like at reasonable prices. Then another company comes along and picks up one of your favorite series and you really want it, but they put it out at an insane price. Is it not unfair that that company is keeping you from your favorite anime, at least a little?


They aren't keeping it from you, you just can't afford it.

I bought Durarara!! Limited Edition Bluray set from them for 150 dollars, with some help.
I can afford it given the time.
No that shit is just stupid and quite frankly Aniplex is being some serious assholes with the ads on YouTube like everyone is gonna buy it
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Battlechili1 said:
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You can call it ridiculous, but you can't call it unfair.

You don't have to buy it.

How is it not unfair?
Think about it; Let's say you like to buy anime you like. Every company you buy from offers what you like at reasonable prices. Then another company comes along and picks up one of your favorite series and you really want it, but they put it out at an insane price. Is it not unfair that that company is keeping you from your favorite anime, at least a little?
No, not in the slightest.

That company can do whatever they damnwell please. If you think you are being cheated in some way, start your own licensing company and do it better. They're willing to put in the work, and they have every right to demand whatever price they want.

Weren't some companies hated and considered illegal in the past for taking over every part of an industry and starting a monopoly in which they can charge whatever they want for it, rather than setting prices based on competition?


If THAT were illegal, then the BP Station at the intersection of US 1 and I-95 where I live should have been shut down for charging 20 cents more for regular than the Exxon across the street.

The core concept behind supply and demand is that if enough people want something, they will buy it, regardless of the price.
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Battlechili1 said:
Weren't some companies hated and considered illegal in the past for taking over every part of an industry and starting a monopoly in which they can charge whatever they want for it, rather than setting prices based on competition?
Who knows. But thanks to those companies that you yourself listed, a monopoly isn't relevant.

Do you also think that it's unfair that only McDonald's serves Happy Meals?
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Weren't some companies hated and considered illegal in the past for taking over every part of an industry and starting a monopoly in which they can charge whatever they want for it, rather than setting prices based on competition?
What? That doesn't even make sense. Only one company can have the license for a particular series. If you're talking about monopoly, you can't be talking about one series, you have to be talking about all American-licensed anime ever.
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Red_Keys said:
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Weren't some companies hated and considered illegal in the past for taking over every part of an industry and starting a monopoly in which they can charge whatever they want for it, rather than setting prices based on competition?
Who knows. But thanks to those companies that you yourself listed, a monopoly isn't relevant.

Do you also think that it's unfair that only McDonald's serves Happy Meals?

I know Aniplex isn't a monopoly.
I'm just pointing out that companies that set whatever prices they desire rather than comparing with competition tend to be hated, and I believe that was more the reason monopolies were hated back in the day.
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If THAT were illegal, then the BP Station at the intersection of US 1 and I-95 where I live should have been shut down for charging 20 cents more for regular than the Exxon across the street.

The core concept behind supply and demand is that if enough people want something, they will buy it, regardless of the price.

I thought it was illegal for gas stations to charge too much more than a certain price.
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But honestly. Who spends that kind of money on television?
Exactly. $600 for a 25-episode series? The fuck?


sorry thats normal for me
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But honestly. Who spends that kind of money on television?
Exactly. $600 for a 25-episode series? The fuck?


sorry thats normal for me
Well, it's not here. Let's put it into perspective:

Standard price for a short anime TV series (basically, anyone but Aniplex): Under $100

Aniplex US price for a short anime TV series: Well Over $100

See what I'm getting at here?
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DateYutaka said:
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But honestly. Who spends that kind of money on television?
Exactly. $600 for a 25-episode series? The fuck?


sorry thats normal for me

Yes, but you don't buy anime in America.
Or in Europe for that matter.
European anime seem to be cheaper there too.
Madoka Magica costs $30 for the entire series in Europe.
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thay use Japanese pricing so the person they liecsesd form gt more money unile what funimaation do
They sell to Americans, so we expect US prices. Funimation's prices are in line with other TV series. Aniplex (as far as I know) is the only one that sells anime to Americans at ridiculous prices.


do you know how much per unit sale gets bakc to the person who linces out the anime around 8 to 15 percent per unit ] if you care baout anime id suporrt ani plex more since say 35-57 Dollars is better than the 4-10 dollars that us us liencors send back up the line
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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Battlechili1 said:
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Weren't some companies hated and considered illegal in the past for taking over every part of an industry and starting a monopoly in which they can charge whatever they want for it, rather than setting prices based on competition?
Who knows. But thanks to those companies that you yourself listed, a monopoly isn't relevant.

Do you also think that it's unfair that only McDonald's serves Happy Meals?

I know Aniplex isn't a monopoly.
I'm just pointing out that companies that set whatever prices they desire rather than comparing with competition tend to be hated, and I believe that was more the reason monopolies were hated back in the day.
Ntad said:

If THAT were illegal, then the BP Station at the intersection of US 1 and I-95 where I live should have been shut down for charging 20 cents more for regular than the Exxon across the street.

The core concept behind supply and demand is that if enough people want something, they will buy it, regardless of the price.

I thought it was illegal for gas stations to charge too much more than a certain price.


That's the point. A 20 cent mark-up isn't going to bring down the hammer, but it certainly isn't morally wrong....even though it would suck if they were the only station. The idea is that you can still go elsewhere, nobody is forcing you to buy their gas. If the price is a big deal for one person, it might not be for 10 others.

If they were looking for $100 a disc, that might be different, but 40 dollars for a good show like Madoka I don't think is unreasonable. And people will still buy it.
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If they were looking for $100 a disc, that might be different, but 40 dollars for a good show like Madoka I don't think is unreasonable. And people will still buy it.

That's only 40 dollars for 4 episodes. The series is 12 episodes long, so the whole series would cost about 120 dollars.
In Europe, the show costs 30 dollars for the whole series.
Isn't Aniplex in part to blame for such a high price at least?
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I don't think they care too much about markets outside of Japan.

Eh - I figure I'll just wait until the UK or Aus release for any of their shows I want to own and if the shows don't get licensed in those regions..oh wells. AniplexUS don't make it easy for internationals to buy their stuff either even if you could afford their crazy prices; easier to buy the Jpn releases.
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thay use Japanese pricing so the person they liecsesd form gt more money unile what funimaation do
They sell to Americans, so we expect US prices. Funimation's prices are in line with other TV series. Aniplex (as far as I know) is the only one that sells anime to Americans at ridiculous prices.


do you know how much per unit sale gets bakc to the person who linces out the anime around 8 to 15 percent per unit ] if you care baout anime id suporrt ani plex more since say 35-57 Dollars is better than the 4-10 dollars that us us liencors send back up the line
You don't seem to understand. Aniplex is the exception. They're the only ones that sell much higher than anyone else. As a consumer, why the hell would you pay for something that costs several times the average price? It's simple math.

Do you want to pay $80 for 25 episodes? or $600 for 25 episodes? You tell me.
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thay use Japanese pricing so the person they liecsesd form gt more money unile what funimaation do
They sell to Americans, so we expect US prices. Funimation's prices are in line with other TV series. Aniplex (as far as I know) is the only one that sells anime to Americans at ridiculous prices.


do you know how much per unit sale gets bakc to the person who linces out the anime around 8 to 15 percent per unit ] if you care baout anime id suporrt ani plex more since say 35-57 Dollars is better than the 4-10 dollars that us us liencors send back up the line
You don't seem to understand. Aniplex is the exception. They're the only ones that sell much higher than anyone else. As a consumer, why the hell would you pay for something that costs several times the average price? It's simple math.

Do you want to pay $80 for 25 episodes? or $600 for 25 episodes? You tell me.


if the consme kew how Licensing deals work thay would not care about the large price tag
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if the consme kew how Licensing deals work thay would not care about the large price tag
Really? Really? You mean I have to do business research to appreciate the totally outrageous price of something? Business research on a company that barely anyone buys off of because FUNimation and Sentai can do what Aniplex does, but better (when it comes strictly to prices)?
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if the consme kew how Licensing deals work thay would not care about the large price tag
Really? Really? You mean I have to do business research to appreciate the totally outrageous price of something? Business research on a company that barely anyone buys off of because FUNimation and Sentai can do what Aniplex does, but better (when it comes strictly to prices)?

how much money goes back up the line per unit sale from Funi or sentai very little si they need ot sell alot or there Liecese would be lost that is fact

why do you think that most japanese studios care very little for International markets
is cuase they get Fucked by the lisensor out of money no matter whant the stuido gets 8-15 percent of a unit sale so what do you think they would preofre aorund 3500 yen minumis per sale or 200- 300 yen per sale
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if the consme kew how Licensing deals work thay would not care about the large price tag
Really? Really? You mean I have to do business research to appreciate the totally outrageous price of something? Business research on a company that barely anyone buys off of because FUNimation and Sentai can do what Aniplex does, but better (when it comes strictly to prices)?

how much money goes back up the line per unit sale from Funi or sentai very little si they need ot sell alot or there Liecese would be lost that is fact
So your logic is: If consumers knew how much money goes to someone else, they would give them more money?
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if the consme kew how Licensing deals work thay would not care about the large price tag
Really? Really? You mean I have to do business research to appreciate the totally outrageous price of something? Business research on a company that barely anyone buys off of because FUNimation and Sentai can do what Aniplex does, but better (when it comes strictly to prices)?

how much money goes back up the line per unit sale from Funi or sentai very little si they need ot sell alot or there Liecese would be lost that is fact


Building on this as well as addressing Battle from earlier. Sentai and Funimation also draw various royalties from other mediums.

Funimation has the Funimation Channel and Sentai draws from the Anime Network. Does Aniplex have it's own TV channel?

Nevermind, apparently they do. *Investigates further*

Edit: Apparently they have something going with Hulu as it is a streaming site. Commercials included.
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if the consme kew how Licensing deals work thay would not care about the large price tag
Really? Really? You mean I have to do business research to appreciate the totally outrageous price of something? Business research on a company that barely anyone buys off of because FUNimation and Sentai can do what Aniplex does, but better (when it comes strictly to prices)?

how much money goes back up the line per unit sale from Funi or sentai very little si they need ot sell alot or there Liecese would be lost that is fact
So your logic is: If consumers knew how much money goes to someone else, they would give them more money?

if they care baout the industry then yes when i say back up the line i men to oringal production houses
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Problem is that once a company grabs an anime, there is no more competition.... No competition = whatever the fuck price they want to make.
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