| Well, now that we've seen the outrage from Aku no Hana mostly due to the things I listed in the title. How important are these things to you now? |
--ALEX--Apr 7, 2013 3:33 AM
| Not as important as plot and character development but since anime is pretty much an art it is important. I've avoided Naruto and One Piece largely for the reasons you mentioned I just don't like the look it's not my style. I prefer the older grittier and more detailed look of the 80's as you all know I like the animation in Hokuto no ken and Saint Seiya but it's all my preference. |
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| Incredibly important. I've picked up entire series' just because I liked the character design. It's also the reason I will never watch things like DBZ or OP. They look fugly. |
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| In terms of importance, I'm pretty open minded, so while I do care about their quality I won't just say something is shit for being a style I'm not accustomed to or have disliked in the past (if I have disliked it, or simply already do from looking at it, I might be wary - but if I hear good things I'll usually try it anyway). If we're talking the actual quality of the animation (fps included) then I'd say it's pretty important. Something can have an art style I don't like (but that's not necessarily shitty) and still play out beautifully, this is just a style I don't like, not bad art. That's fine with me, so I'd say it's of medium importance, but not above the writing (especially in terms of story, character design, and character chemistry) and directing. Anime is by definition a visual medium; anyone who claims the art, animation quality, and designs don't matter needs to keep this in mind. If they don't to you, fine, however they SHOULD because of the fact anime is a visual medium, which means its visuals should be a heavily judged factor. I agree that everyone should be open minded and willing to accept different styles of art (such as cel animation vs the more modern mostly computer done stuff), but claiming visuals shouldn't matter in a VISUAL MEDIUM is objectively wrong. It's like saying what words are in a book doesn't matter, or a band playing shit music shouldn't matter because the lyrics - when just written and not sang to this shitty tune - are nice. |
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| It's important to an extent. I do not rate an anime less, then I would of rated it, because of the character design. As long as they aren't done by SHAFT and don't look like Code Geass, I'm fine with it. |
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| Not too much, though a lot of anime i've picked up because I liked the look of the animation or art. If everything else is on point, I wont mind, or as long as the particular style goes with the theme or genre of the anime. |
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Red_Keys said: It's also the reason I will never watch things like DBZ or OP. They look fugly. wow....I thought I was the only one that felt like this. I watched the first 10 episodes of OP 5 years ago and I immediately dropped it. I just HATED the character design so much. It bothered me to a level that I didn't think was possible. I don't care how good people say it is, I refuse to watch it. |
| It plays a really important role. Anime's aren't only about the story. Good art and animation is a pleasure for the eyes. |
| ~Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve |
| Character designs are so important to me I really don't care about animation because I don't usually notice it unless people pointed out to me ( ex: Naruto shippuden). I wish character designs like Moe blobs and Big buggy eyes to just die. |
JustALEX said: And I thought I hated OP's retarded character design. I feel bad though caus it might actually be good. Anyway heres good art design :DRed_Keys said: It's also the reason I will never watch things like DBZ or OP. They look fugly. wow....I thought I was the only one that felt like this. I watched the first 10 episodes of OP 5 years ago and I immediately dropped it. I just HATED the character design so much. It bothered me to a level that I didn't think was possible. I don't care how good people say it is, I refuse to watch it. |
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| Art- Not that important Animation- Important Character Design- SUPER important. I've actually had a hard time sitting through different anime just because of the character design like Special A. I've tried One Piece, when it was on Toonami the character design is what made me quit it. There's a lot of things on the visuals that are important to me, I've dropped a couple shows just because the design wasn't to my liking. |
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Arararraragi-kun said: I wish character designs like Moe blobs and Big buggy eyes to just die. You say this while all your favorite anime, manga, and characters have those eyes aside two, and while ALL of them have moe. |
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JustALEX said: Red_Keys said: It's also the reason I will never watch things like DBZ or OP. They look fugly. wow....I thought I was the only one that felt like this. I watched the first 10 episodes of OP 5 years ago and I immediately dropped it. I just HATED the character design so much. It bothered me to a level that I didn't think was possible. I don't care how good people say it is, I refuse to watch it. inb4 lupadim calling you an idiot for having an opinion. Also, anime is, as Tallon said, a visual medium. Therefore, the art is one of the most important factors in it. Would you watch anime with doodles from a 5 year old for character design as long as it had a "great plot"? |
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yhunata said: anime with doodles from a 5 year old Sounds like the original Gundam, they couldn't even keep the crayola coloring in the lines. |
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BlackSabotage said: JustALEX said: And I thought I hated OP's retarded character design. I feel bad though caus it might actually be good. Anyway heres good art design :DRed_Keys said: It's also the reason I will never watch things like DBZ or OP. They look fugly. wow....I thought I was the only one that felt like this. I watched the first 10 episodes of OP 5 years ago and I immediately dropped it. I just HATED the character design so much. It bothered me to a level that I didn't think was possible. I don't care how good people say it is, I refuse to watch it. You guys are pissing me off :| OP has some really great designs in it. |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: Sorry dude. I don't wanna piss you off your one of the coolest dudes here.BlackSabotage said: JustALEX said: And I thought I hated OP's retarded character design. I feel bad though caus it might actually be good. Anyway heres good art design :DRed_Keys said: It's also the reason I will never watch things like DBZ or OP. They look fugly. wow....I thought I was the only one that felt like this. I watched the first 10 episodes of OP 5 years ago and I immediately dropped it. I just HATED the character design so much. It bothered me to a level that I didn't think was possible. I don't care how good people say it is, I refuse to watch it. You guys are pissing me off :| OP has some really great designs in it. |
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TallonKarrde23 said: yhunata said: anime with doodles from a 5 year old Sounds like the original Gundam, they couldn't even keep the crayola coloring in the lines. I was actually referring to anime with character designs like Crayon Shin-chan. |
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BlackSabotage said: YorozuyaGinSan said: Sorry dude. I don't wanna piss you off your one of the coolest dudes here.BlackSabotage said: JustALEX said: And I thought I hated OP's retarded character design. I feel bad though caus it might actually be good. Anyway heres good art design :DRed_Keys said: It's also the reason I will never watch things like DBZ or OP. They look fugly. wow....I thought I was the only one that felt like this. I watched the first 10 episodes of OP 5 years ago and I immediately dropped it. I just HATED the character design so much. It bothered me to a level that I didn't think was possible. I don't care how good people say it is, I refuse to watch it. You guys are pissing me off :| OP has some really great designs in it. I don't even know if you're being serious now... But my picture link failed for me. Here's a better one  Look how fabulous law is |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: Look how fabulous law is But to be honest and fair....aren't those pictures fan made and not a representation of how the anime character designs are? |
JustALEX said: YorozuyaGinSan said: Look how fabulous law is But to be honest and fair....aren't those pictures fan made and not a representation of how the anime character designs are? Character designs are practically the same. The art is a bit better though. And to be fair, some of the One Piece backgrounds have amazing detail, so we can't really say the art is that bad in One Piece. |
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| It has to be important. For me it's like : " Oh this Anime looks good ... nice animations eg." So it convinves me to take a look... Nevertheless I don't look at the Art/Animations only. But since it convinces me to watch an Anime, it has an important role. |
YorozuyaGinSan said: I was being serious. Also that looks cool but I recall one Piece having some retarded characters in it. I'll have to give it a try first though.BlackSabotage said: YorozuyaGinSan said: Sorry dude. I don't wanna piss you off your one of the coolest dudes here.BlackSabotage said: JustALEX said: And I thought I hated OP's retarded character design. I feel bad though caus it might actually be good. Anyway heres good art design :DRed_Keys said: It's also the reason I will never watch things like DBZ or OP. They look fugly. wow....I thought I was the only one that felt like this. I watched the first 10 episodes of OP 5 years ago and I immediately dropped it. I just HATED the character design so much. It bothered me to a level that I didn't think was possible. I don't care how good people say it is, I refuse to watch it. You guys are pissing me off :| OP has some really great designs in it. I don't even know if you're being serious now... But my picture link failed for me. Here's a better one Look how fabulous law is |
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JustALEX said: YorozuyaGinSan said: Look how fabulous law is But to be honest and fair....aren't those pictures fan made and not a representation of how the anime character designs are? Of course, but the designs are exactly the same... The fanart is done by the same guy who did my JoJo signature... So i thought I'd use it. |
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BlackSabotage said: YorozuyaGinSan said: I was being serious. Also that looks cool but I recall one Piece having some retarded characters in it. I'll have to give it a try first though.I don't even know if you're being serious now... But my picture link failed for me. He's lying to you man, he even said your hair looks bad. |
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Alexx_ said: BlackSabotage said: YorozuyaGinSan said: I was being serious. Also that looks cool but I recall one Piece having some retarded characters in it. I'll have to give it a try first though.I don't even know if you're being serious now... But my picture link failed for me. He's lying to you man, he even said your hair looks bad.  |
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Alexx_ said: Any body whos a Jojo fan is a friend of mine :DBlackSabotage said: YorozuyaGinSan said: I was being serious. Also that looks cool but I recall one Piece having some retarded characters in it. I'll have to give it a try first though.I don't even know if you're being serious now... But my picture link failed for me. He's lying to you man, he even said your hair looks bad. |
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BlackSabotage said: I was being serious. Also that looks cool but I recall one Piece having some retarded characters in it. I'll have to give it a try first though. But yeah... All the antagonists in One Piece are retarded up to the Baroque Works saga for me. Maybe captain Kuro as an exception. Obviously all the protagonists are still retarded. |
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| It really depends on the writing. I mean, bad art and animation do annoys me, though not enough to turn me away from a well written show... |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: Well see that's my problem with it then. Villains need to be super badass. They should be more like tetsuo and turn into giant fetus monsters!BlackSabotage said: I was being serious. Also that looks cool but I recall one Piece having some retarded characters in it. I'll have to give it a try first though. But yeah... All the antagonists in One Piece are retarded up to the Baroque Works saga for me. Maybe captain Kuro as an exception. Obviously all the protagonists are still retarded. |
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DateYutaka said: i find fir the most part this site is populated by hipster late night anime moe worshipers who have no idea what deataied art is MOE art can never be Detailed [ no i do not mean screrny art ] i mean Chacter art so moe art has never looked detailed and never will and i also find it very Hypocritical that you lord one studio for chaging art style of a very successfull source piece but when some one elese does you jump all over them Hipster means liking something that's not popular. So how come liking moe, which is popular, makes us hipster and not you? |
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| It's not the most important thing to me. Of course it matters to me how the characters and animation look like, but I wouldn't drop an anime with a good plot but with terrible art. |
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DateYutaka said: yhunata said: DateYutaka said: i find fir the most part this site is populated by hipster late night anime moe worshipers who have no idea what deataied art is MOE art can never be Detailed [ no i do not mean screrny art ] i mean Chacter art so moe art has never looked detailed and never will and i also find it very Hypocritical that you lord one studio for chaging art style of a very successfull source piece but when some one elese does you jump all over them Hipster means liking something that's not popular. So how come liking moe, which is popular, makes us hipster and not you? its Late night not Mainstream ie hipsters Look around you. Japan is not the only country that watches anime. Look at the site ratings. How many "moe" anime do you see at the top? Admit it, your nostalgia goggles prevent you from seeing that you are the biggest hipster on this site. |
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BlackSabotage said: The antagonists are actually really great as of late in One Piece, but the big bad... He's a fuckin lard.YorozuyaGinSan said: Well see that's my problem with it then. Villains need to be super badass. They should be more like tetsuo and turn into giant fetus monsters!BlackSabotage said: I was being serious. Also that looks cool but I recall one Piece having some retarded characters in it. I'll have to give it a try first though. But yeah... All the antagonists in One Piece are retarded up to the Baroque Works saga for me. Maybe captain Kuro as an exception. Obviously all the protagonists are still retarded.  JoJo's Bizarre Adventure part 3 if left in the hands of One Piece author, Eiichiro Oda fanart |
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DateYutaka said: yhunata said: DateYutaka said: yhunata said: DateYutaka said: i find fir the most part this site is populated by hipster late night anime moe worshipers who have no idea what deataied art is MOE art can never be Detailed [ no i do not mean screrny art ] i mean Chacter art so moe art has never looked detailed and never will and i also find it very Hypocritical that you lord one studio for chaging art style of a very successfull source piece but when some one elese does you jump all over them Hipster means liking something that's not popular. So how come liking moe, which is popular, makes us hipster and not you? its Late night not Mainstream ie hipsters Look around you. Japan is not the only country that watches anime. Look at the site ratings. How many "moe" anime do you see at the top? Admit it, your nostalgia goggles prevent you from seeing that you are the biggest hipster on this site. look at my faves compering to the TV Ratings the Most part i have very Mainstream tastes most anime listed as my faves ATM are either ongoing ofr under 10 years old [ ie they finsised under ten years ago] were the nostalgia goggles in that Your "favs" doesn't change the fact that you are a moe hating guy and since "moe" anime are the in-thing today, that makes you a hipster. |
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| As long as the art isn't like NGE or something worse, I'll watch an anime. In conclusion it isn't the most important factor for me while watching anime :p. |
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Peten00b said: As long as the art isn't like NGE or something worse, I'll watch an anime. In conclusion it isn't the most important factor for me while watching anime :p. NGE had god tier art... Especially the last 2 episodes. |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: Yeah whats wrong with it?Peten00b said: As long as the art isn't like NGE or something worse, I'll watch an anime. In conclusion it isn't the most important factor for me while watching anime :p. NGE had god tier art... Especially the last 2 episodes. |
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YorozuyaGinSanuot said: NGE Rebuilds*had god tier art... It's pretty important in my opinion. Right after story and characters as a matter of fact. Good art style, character design, and etc. can go a pretty long ways. |
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Azarashi314 said: I come for the art and plot. I stay for the characters and story. Pretty much this, its why some of the high ranking shows I've seen on others lists some of them I just can't stand to watch at all because of how they look. |
TallonKarrde23 said: Arararraragi-kun said: I wish character designs like Moe blobs and Big buggy eyes to just die. You say this while all your favorite anime, manga, and characters have those eyes aside two, and while ALL of them have moe. Naruto : No Manami : moe ? probably Death the kid : No Hitagi : Fuck no Araragi : No Kenpachi : No Goku : Lol no Yozora : moe ? idk Minami: idk Astera : Yes You are probably misunderstanding me all anime characters have somewhat of big eyes but I mean those ugly Clannad , kanon , Air ones and moe blobs like K on , Tamako market etc the same face syndrome that KyoAni specialize in Basically this: to prevail over this. |
TallonKarrde23 said: Arararraragi-kun said: I wish character designs like Moe blobs and Big buggy eyes to just die. You say this while all your favorite anime, manga, and characters have those eyes aside two, and while ALL of them have moe. Naruto : No Manami : moe ? probably Death the kid : No Hitagi : Fuck no Araragi : No Kenpachi : No Goku : Lol no Yozora : moe ? idk Minami: idk Astera : Yes You are probably misunderstanding me all anime characters have somewhat of big eyes but I mean those ugly Clannad , kanon , Air ones and moe blobs like K on , Tamako market etc the same face syndrome that KyoAni specialize in Basically this: to prevail over this. |
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