| It was shonen magic. Just accept it. |
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| I thought it was uber legit how he could do that... It wouldn't be 100% accuracy without it. |
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Lethargy said: Different series have different way to do something.NeoAnkara said: It was shonen magic. Just accept it. Slam Dunk is Shonen, no excuse. |
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| Why is it physically impossible? Sorry but isn't the shot just a really long ranged fade away? |
Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Why is it physically impossible? Sorry but isn't the shot just a really long ranged fade away? Smh. ??? I just don't see how it's physically impossible. I'm asking you to elaborate your stance on that statement. |
Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Why is it physically impossible? Sorry but isn't the shot just a really long ranged fade away? Smh. ??? I just don't see how it's physically impossible. I'm asking you to elaborate your stance on that statement. Alright, I'll elaborate on it then. The way Midorima shoots the ball from full-court is just ridiculous, he is in perfect arch form like he is standing 10 feet away from the basket, he looks like he is not putting any strength in it at all. It's like the ball just leaves his hands and finds it's way to the basket. Search some full-court shots and then tell me if Midorima is legit. Full court shots (and it also doesn't look like he puts much effort into) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnxIITeNftE go straight to 0:18 |
| 1. This isn't Slam Dunk. 2. The shit Aomine pulls off is about 30 times more unrealistic than anything Midorima has ever done. 3. It's not real life. Almost nothing in sports shounen is realistic. Hell, just Kagami's jumps are horribly unrealistic, especially at his age - let alone his fucking professional NFL Lineman strength when he's a basketball playing Japanese teen. Kuroko being 'invisible' to the eye at times is also bullshit, let alone his fucking hilarious ball passing involving PUNCHING the damn thing and it going perfectly where he wants it to. It's all DBZ tier bullshit they pull off. I'm not sure why you're picking out Midorima when he is far from the most unrealistic, nor the only unrealistic one. All he can do is shoot well; which compared to someone who can copy every move of yours and even make his body somehow work on a level it's not capable of, someone who can pretty much break the laws of physics, someone who can jump 30 fucking feet, someone who can READ PEOPLES STATS IN RICEBALLS, SCREAMING FROGS, AND UMBRELLAS, and so on - is not that bad. |
TallonKarrde23Mar 31, 2013 11:49 PM
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TallonKarrde23 said: 1. This isn't Slam Dunk. 2. The shit Aomine pulls off is about 30 times more unrealistic than anything Midorima has ever done. 3. It's not real life. Almost nothing in sports shounen is realistic. Hell, just Kagami's jumps are horribly unrealistic, especially at his age - let alone his fucking professional NFL Lineman strength when he's a basketball playing Japanese teen. Kuroko being 'invisible' to the eye at times is also bullshit, let alone his fucking hilarious ball passing involving PUNCHING the damn thing and it going perfectly where he wants it to. It's all DBZ tier bullshit they pull off. I'm not sure why you're picking out Midorima when he is far from the most unrealistic, nor the only unrealistic one. All he can do is shoot well; which compared to someone who can copy every move of yours and even make his body somehow work on a level it's not capable of, someone who can pretty much break the laws of physics, someone who can jump 30 fucking feet, someone who can READ PEOPLES STATS IN RICEBALLS, SCREAMING FROGS, AND UMBRELLAS, and so on - is not that bad. Should be talk about blue haired boy and his magical powers as well? He abilities are completely over exaggerated to the point he's like a ghost |
Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Why is it physically impossible? Sorry but isn't the shot just a really long ranged fade away? Smh. ??? I just don't see how it's physically impossible. I'm asking you to elaborate your stance on that statement. Alright, I'll elaborate on it then. The way Midorima shoots the ball from full-court is just ridiculous, he is in perfect arch form like he is standing 10 feet away from the basket, he looks like he is not putting any strength in it at all. It's like the ball just leaves his hands and finds it's way to the basket. Search some full-court shots and then tell me if Midorima is legit. Full court shots (and it also doesn't look like he puts much effort into) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnxIITeNftE go straight to 0:18 Omg, smh again... That commercial is fake. Fake because? We're debating why is this commercial fake? Facts here not "cause it just is" or "just not possible" Dont want to believe its possible or it isn't possible are two different things |
Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Why is it physically impossible? Sorry but isn't the shot just a really long ranged fade away? Smh. ??? I just don't see how it's physically impossible. I'm asking you to elaborate your stance on that statement. Alright, I'll elaborate on it then. The way Midorima shoots the ball from full-court is just ridiculous, he is in perfect arch form like he is standing 10 feet away from the basket, he looks like he is not putting any strength in it at all. It's like the ball just leaves his hands and finds it's way to the basket. Search some full-court shots and then tell me if Midorima is legit. Full court shots (and it also doesn't look like he puts much effort into) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnxIITeNftE go straight to 0:18 Omg, smh again... That commercial is fake. Fake because? We're debating why is this commercial fake? Facts here not "cause it just is" or "just not possible" Dont want to believe its possible or it isn't possible are two different things LOL, you're hilarious though. I can't believe you just sent me a fake Gatorade commercial of LeBron shooting full court shots, and the funny part about it is you're dead serious. Just stop man, your done. I guess at this point you have no solid basses for any form of debating it at all. |
Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Why is it physically impossible? Sorry but isn't the shot just a really long ranged fade away? Smh. ??? I just don't see how it's physically impossible. I'm asking you to elaborate your stance on that statement. Alright, I'll elaborate on it then. The way Midorima shoots the ball from full-court is just ridiculous, he is in perfect arch form like he is standing 10 feet away from the basket, he looks like he is not putting any strength in it at all. It's like the ball just leaves his hands and finds it's way to the basket. Search some full-court shots and then tell me if Midorima is legit. Full court shots (and it also doesn't look like he puts much effort into) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnxIITeNftE go straight to 0:18 Omg, smh again... That commercial is fake. Fake because? We're debating why is this commercial fake? Facts here not "cause it just is" or "just not possible" Dont want to believe its possible or it isn't possible are two different things LOL, you're hilarious though. I can't believe you just sent me a fake Gatorade commercial of LeBron shooting full court shots, and the funny part about it is you're dead serious. Just stop man, your done. The video looked fake? I don't see any wires coming out of the top of the ball, dragging it into the hoop. Lebron legitimately did a full-court shot and it was a 90 footer, accept it ignoramus. Also, there are other full-court shots online, DURING games. About what you said about Kuroko's invisibility, you're being a total hypocrite by saying you're accepting that unrealistic idea yet you don't support Midorima's. Also, when Midorima DID perform the full court, it was slowed down to make it seem like it was effortless. It's an anime, not an actual basketball game. If you're looking for realism, go back to watching NBA. |
ShinoAsada said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Why is it physically impossible? Sorry but isn't the shot just a really long ranged fade away? Smh. ??? I just don't see how it's physically impossible. I'm asking you to elaborate your stance on that statement. Alright, I'll elaborate on it then. The way Midorima shoots the ball from full-court is just ridiculous, he is in perfect arch form like he is standing 10 feet away from the basket, he looks like he is not putting any strength in it at all. It's like the ball just leaves his hands and finds it's way to the basket. Search some full-court shots and then tell me if Midorima is legit. Full court shots (and it also doesn't look like he puts much effort into) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnxIITeNftE go straight to 0:18 Omg, smh again... That commercial is fake. Fake because? We're debating why is this commercial fake? Facts here not "cause it just is" or "just not possible" Dont want to believe its possible or it isn't possible are two different things LOL, you're hilarious though. I can't believe you just sent me a fake Gatorade commercial of LeBron shooting full court shots, and the funny part about it is you're dead serious. Just stop man, your done. The video looked fake? I don't see any wires coming out of the top of the ball, dragging it into the hoop. Lebron legitimately did a full-court shot and it was a 90 footer, accept it ignoramus. Also, there are other full-court shots online, DURING games. About what you said about Kuroko's invisibility, you're being a total hypocrite by saying you're accepting that unrealistic idea yet you don't support Midorima's. Also, when Midorima DID perform the full court, it was slowed down to make it seem like it was effortless. It's an anime, not an actual basketball game. If you're looking for realism, go back to watching NBA. No I said it was over exaggerated. Not impossible. The deal with that is it is possible to do "misdirection" but in basket ball when people are actually looking for you on defense your not going to literally not register in their view points. And it's basically like you said. It's a anime not real so unrealistic things are to be expected. |
| What about Takao's skill? He can see literally everything on court, without even looking. Talk about peripheral vision. |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: Maybe he have byakugan.What about Takao's skill? He can see literally everything on court, without even looking. Talk about peripheral vision. |
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| Okay, those 2 talking about the commercial must be trolling.... |
dperolio said: Okay, those 2 talking about the commercial must be trolling.... That's what I thought... I mean the ball is outside of the camera lens for most of the shot, why would you be able to see a wire, when it's completely unnecessary in faking the shot. and it is a commercial after all. |
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Lethargy said: I'm sorry, I'm done. It seems that this forum is clearly not the place to discuss real basketball lol. A thread about a basketball anime/manga anywhere would not be the right place to discuss 'real' basketball. This is a show and manga based heavily on shounen principles, not realism. You were saying the author doesn't know how to make an interesting basketball story "without" those things - but so what? Kuroko no Basuke has one of the LARGEST fan bases in modern anime history; They took over the entirety of Pixiv in a few weeks - having the top amount of art uploaded EVER compared to anything else. They took over Comiket having over twice as many booths as any other series and many of the others even COMBINED. And that's because NOBODY WATCHES IT EXPECTING FUCKING REALISM. This is very good ENTERTAINMENT, which is all anime and manga are supposed to be. This isn't a study of basketball and the physics and skill behind it. Hell, the majority of fans don't even like basketball - I'm one of those. The real sport is fucking terribly boring. You mentioned in the post I just quoted this is not the place to discuss "real" basketball - why the hell would a very obviously not-based-in-reality shounen manga about a sport be the place to discuss the REAL sport? Go to the NBA thread if you want that. The characters literally fucking glow and disappear, warp across the court, slow down time, float in the air for 30 fucking seconds at a time, change the TRAJECTORY OF THEIR BODY MID-JUMP WHICH IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY HUMAN BEING, no shit this isn't the place to talk about real basketball. |
TallonKarrde23Apr 1, 2013 1:52 AM
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ShinoAsada said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Lethargy said: MidnightPride said: Why is it physically impossible? Sorry but isn't the shot just a really long ranged fade away? Smh. ??? I just don't see how it's physically impossible. I'm asking you to elaborate your stance on that statement. Alright, I'll elaborate on it then. The way Midorima shoots the ball from full-court is just ridiculous, he is in perfect arch form like he is standing 10 feet away from the basket, he looks like he is not putting any strength in it at all. It's like the ball just leaves his hands and finds it's way to the basket. Search some full-court shots and then tell me if Midorima is legit. Full court shots (and it also doesn't look like he puts much effort into) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnxIITeNftE go straight to 0:18 Omg, smh again... That commercial is fake. Fake because? We're debating why is this commercial fake? Facts here not "cause it just is" or "just not possible" Dont want to believe its possible or it isn't possible are two different things LOL, you're hilarious though. I can't believe you just sent me a fake Gatorade commercial of LeBron shooting full court shots, and the funny part about it is you're dead serious. Just stop man, your done. The video looked fake? I don't see any wires coming out of the top of the ball, dragging it into the hoop. Lebron legitimately did a full-court shot and it was a 90 footer, accept it ignoramus. Also, there are other full-court shots online, DURING games. About what you said about Kuroko's invisibility, you're being a total hypocrite by saying you're accepting that unrealistic idea yet you don't support Midorima's. Also, when Midorima DID perform the full court, it was slowed down to make it seem like it was effortless. It's an anime, not an actual basketball game. If you're looking for realism, go back to watching NBA. You people know jack shit about basketball. No one and I mean no one does a full court shot with the same form that you would use from the three point line. It is impossible to generate enough power and to hit 100% from there is not possible. Full court shots are hit like this And they hardly ever go in hence the reaction of the crowd and commentators. I understand where Lethargy is coming from but we just have to accept that this is a manga and it will occasionally break the laws of physics. |
| Comparing manga to real life was never going to end well... |
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| again it's world of manga. so there's no problems for me |
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Lethargy said: ??? The realism pales in comparison to Slam Dunk. Why would you even compare the two? It should be obvious from the start that KnB isn't a realistic series. |
KuriosStagnant said: TallonKarrde23 said: 1. This isn't Slam Dunk. 2. The shit Aomine pulls off is about 30 times more unrealistic than anything Midorima has ever done. 3. It's not real life. Almost nothing in sports shounen is realistic. Hell, just Kagami's jumps are horribly unrealistic, especially at his age - let alone his fucking professional NFL Lineman strength when he's a basketball playing Japanese teen. Kuroko being 'invisible' to the eye at times is also bullshit, let alone his fucking hilarious ball passing involving PUNCHING the damn thing and it going perfectly where he wants it to. It's all DBZ tier bullshit they pull off. I'm not sure why you're picking out Midorima when he is far from the most unrealistic, nor the only unrealistic one. All he can do is shoot well; which compared to someone who can copy every move of yours and even make his body somehow work on a level it's not capable of, someone who can pretty much break the laws of physics, someone who can jump 30 fucking feet, someone who can READ PEOPLES STATS IN RICEBALLS, SCREAMING FROGS, AND UMBRELLAS - is not that bad. Um, Kagami's jumps are common. I wouldn't say for the average Japanese male. But having crazy hops at 16 isn't anything impossible. Aomine's streetball does push it at times, but Midorima bothers me the most. Kuroko being invisible is just something you're going have to accept if you plan on watching or reading the show. At least he isn't shooting 90 footers like a walk in the park. The whole series is a mess when it comes to realism, I'm just solely picking on Midorima right now. Kagami's jumps are common? Dunking from free throw line with ease, my gosh and.. KuriosStagnant said: I'm sorry, I'm done. It seems that this forum is clearly not the place to discuss real basketball lol. LOL, MidnightPride why did you change your name man? Your replies weren't that idiotic. Whut? U MAD? Kagami's head could freakin reach the hoop, and that's what you called common? Kise pretty much did everything other people could do, in an unbelievable way, well that's not all that unrealistic by what you said, was it? Aomine pretty much pulled out stunts that aren't possible even for street basketball players at NBA level. Well Murasakibara is pretty much the most realistic one, and Akashi.. well he is quite realistic to some extent, I guess? Midorima focused solely on shooting, no dribble and everything else, and he might've trained his fingers' muscle.. People who are used to scoring 3 pointers will have the "feels" of it. Let's see if you shoot 2k shots half court a day, you might be able to do a 99% half court shots after years of training o.O |
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