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I myself generally look on the show page and usually one sticks out as the best or I use another site and just usually click the blue/green links. My question is how do you guys pick especially when groups go defunct and all their work can end up lost into the tide that is the internet? I have been looking to watch both golden boy and the only group I have found has dead versions and the other group I have found are random. There is also like some of the lupin movies which were really only subbed by a single group which is now defunct and most of their versions are dead. The last one which has been the hardest for me to try and figure out a group would be Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai which has many groups who have worked on it, but all are quite controversial. The ones I see are the usual commiesubs, SubDesu, and horrible subs there is also groups like colormesubbed, chihiro and sarsu subs which are all groups I have never heard of and every group seems to have hater screaming (cr shit, crap, low qualithy, bad translations and everything else. I use commie subs to watch a few and don't really understand the hate for them and I used subdesu back for koi to senkyo to chocolate and I thought theirs were decent too.

How do you pick when the mob is mostly screaming bloody murder?
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Dec 12, 2012 5:55 PM
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I don't.
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I pick groups that aren't gg or Commie.
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I don't.
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I do not let it concern me.

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Just don't pick gg or Hadena.
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I just go for the recommended groups on nyaa that's not Hadena nor gg.
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I have a few preferences, (UTW/URW, HS, and Eclipse usually) but if they're not up I don't really care. There are a few I dislike though. No Coalgirls, I DON'T want 500TB of Flac audio files and OP/ED's with my download, I just want to watch my friggen show.
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Just don't pick gg or Hadena.


whats wrong with gg or hadena? I watch both of them... Am I doing something wrong?
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Here's a pic for easy reference OP.

As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
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BloodRequiem said:
Here's a pic for easy reference OP.



Pretty much.
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BloodRequiem said:
Here's a pic for easy reference OP.



holy shit thats hilarious
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JavierR said:
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Here's a pic for easy reference OP.



holy shit thats hilarious
it made me lol. So then doki is pretty decent. Also crunchyroll is not half bad in that comparison.
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infernotez said:
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Here's a pic for easy reference OP.



holy shit thats hilarious
it made me lol. So then doki is pretty decent. Also crunchyroll is not half bad in that comparison.

Yeah Doki is decent but they use the same bloody font for almost every series' karaoke. UTW, GotWoot, Mazui, Chihiro (not their older stuff), FFF/FFFPeeps and rori are all good most of the time.
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JavierR said:
Necro-sama said:
Just don't pick gg or Hadena.


whats wrong with gg or hadena? I watch both of them... Am I doing something wrong?

GG is fine, although it depends on the show.

Hadena is horrible, avoid them at all cost. They can't translate for shit.

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I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?

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rederoin said:
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I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

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Dec 12, 2012 6:23 PM

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rederoin said:
JavierR said:
Necro-sama said:
Just don't pick gg or Hadena.


whats wrong with gg or hadena? I watch both of them... Am I doing something wrong?

GG is fine, although it depends on the show.

Hadena is horrible, avoid them at all cost. They can't translate for shit.


gg and Commie's problem is over localization. With Hadena you have better chances to just listen to the raw and guess what they are saying.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
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Tavor said:
rederoin said:
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I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

Stream sites where you don't even know what group subbed it?

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rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
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I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

Stream sites where you don't even know what group subbed it?
Yes.
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The only one I really avoid is Hadena. And I'm really fond of Horrible Subs and Coalgirls, so these are the ones I look for when I want to watch a show.

I don't mind the others. GG and Commie aren't bad, really.
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rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

Stream sites where you don't even know what group subbed it?


Pretty much. It's not really specified who's doing the subbing.

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Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

Stream sites where you don't even know what group subbed it?


Pretty much. It's not really specified who's doing the subbing.


Red_Keys said:
rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

Stream sites where you don't even know what group subbed it?

Then how do you know if the translations are any good?

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rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

Stream sites where you don't even know what group subbed it?

Then how do you know if the translations are any good?


I honestly wouldn't know, but it's good enough.

Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is.
Dec 12, 2012 6:28 PM
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The ones that do their episodes in 720p, and don't make god-awful squid puns.
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Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

Stream sites where you don't even know what group subbed it?

Then how do you know if the translations are any good?


I honestly wouldn't know, but it's good enough.

If you don't know who subbed it, there is no way of knowing if they are "good enough". Hadena would be a good example of this.

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rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

Stream sites where you don't even know what group subbed it?

Then how do you know if the translations are any good?


I honestly wouldn't know, but it's good enough.

If you don't know who subbed it, there is no way of knowing if they are "good enough". Hadena would be a good example of this.


And Hadena subs a lot of shows lol.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
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I watch Horrible Subs for a quickie but usually stick with subbers like CommieSubs.

Go on IRC and ask around.

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If I can understand the plot, then it is good enough.
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And Hadena subs a lot of shows lol.

They are planning on picking up 4 weekly shows this winter.

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If I can understand the plot, than it is good enough.

But thats the point, you won't with bad subs.

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If it's UTW, Mazui, FFF, rori, GotWoot or IB, I'll definitely choose them.
If they're not the one who's subbing a certain series, I'll just read from some reviewing sites and pick the one they recommended.
If it's Hadena, NO. I watched some of their releases, and I couldn't bear watching anymore after the first 5 minutes.
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If I can understand the plot, than it is good enough.

But thats the point, you won't with bad subs.
Well then I guess I'm lucky, because I've never had a problem with questionable dialogue.
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rederoin said:

If you don't know who subbed it, there is no way of knowing if they are "good enough". Hadena would be a good example of this.


Ah, my bad, I meant to type "good enough for me".

If every piece of dialogue is translated, I don't mind it so long as I can get the jist of what's going on.

I mean, I would like to watch those high quality subs, but it requires to be torrented, and my connection is pretty slow when it comes to that, so I'd rather wait for the video to buffer for a bit.

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Tavor said:
rederoin said:

If you don't know who subbed it, there is no way of knowing if they are "good enough". Hadena would be a good example of this.


Ah, my bad, I meant to type "good enough for me".

If every piece of dialogue is translated, I don't mind it so long as I can get the jist of what's going on.

You'll get far worse experiences with a lot of shows if the subbing is done by a "bad" group though(I can only think of Hadena at the moment) though.

If anything, i'd say its even more important than going for higher video quality.

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rederoin said:
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rederoin said:

If you don't know who subbed it, there is no way of knowing if they are "good enough". Hadena would be a good example of this.


Ah, my bad, I meant to type "good enough for me".

If every piece of dialogue is translated, I don't mind it so long as I can get the jist of what's going on.

You'll get far worse experiences with a lot of shows if the subbing is done by a "bad" group though(I can only think of Hadena at the moment) though.

If anything, i'd say its even more important than going for higher video quality.
My net sucks too, but will wait until I can watch a 720p version (when available) or I will not watch at all.
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rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:

If you don't know who subbed it, there is no way of knowing if they are "good enough". Hadena would be a good example of this.


Ah, my bad, I meant to type "good enough for me".

If every piece of dialogue is translated, I don't mind it so long as I can get the jist of what's going on.

You'll get far worse experiences with a lot of shows if the subbing is done by a "bad" group though(I can only think of Hadena at the moment) though.

If anything, i'd say its even more important than going for higher video quality.


I don't know what a 'good' experience is to begin with anyway, so for now, I'm content and joyful for the fact I can keep up with the airing shows pretty quick.

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I don't choose, I stream and use whatever their videos use. I can understand most japanese used in anime so I only need subs to guide me in some conversations and to explain technical words that I don't know, so as long as they do that I don't mind.

Though I stay away from those crappy subs, where it's translated to chinese then to english so it's all wrong(and if someone's name is Takeshi, it's translated to Xhiayo, I don't even smh). I've had to watch like two shows with those subs, it would have been better if they were raw, subs and voices not matching up is very distracting.
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rederoin said:
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If I can understand the plot, than it is good enough.

But thats the point, you won't with bad subs.


Exactly. When I watched C3, I didn't fully understand the plot. I can't even understand what the characters are saying, thus my low rating on the series. Then I found out that I picked the bad subs. Good thing UTW has subbed the series so I plan to rewatch it with their release. Hopefully that changes my rating on the series.

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rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

Stream sites where you don't even know what group subbed it?


Pretty much. It's not really specified who's doing the subbing.


Red_Keys said:
rederoin said:
Tavor said:
rederoin said:
Red_Keys said:
The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
I don't.

Then how do you watch unlicensed shows?


Some...sites.

Stream sites where you don't even know what group subbed it?

Then how do you know if the translations are any good?


I don't. if it sounds about right to my limited knowledge of japanese then i go with it.
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rederoin said:
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Just don't pick gg or Hadena.


whats wrong with gg or hadena? I watch both of them... Am I doing something wrong?

GG is fine, although it depends on the show.

Hadena is horrible, avoid them at all cost. They can't translate for shit.
it's a problem when hadena is the only group subbing a show you want to watch.
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I don't. I leave that stuff to my brother, who downloads every version. Samples everything, then scraps the ones that don't fit his tastes.
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infernotez said:
I myself generally look on the show page and usually one sticks out as the best or I use another site and just usually click the blue/green links. My question is how do you guys pick especially when groups go defunct and all their work can end up lost into the tide that is the internet? I have been looking to watch both golden boy and the only group I have found has dead versions and the other group I have found are random. There is also like some of the lupin movies which were really only subbed by a single group which is now defunct and most of their versions are dead.
First off, when it comes to older (pre-2000 or maybe pre-2005) shows like Golden BOy that have been released on DVD in North America, most of the files out there are going to be rips of those DVDs. Thus, the subs won't be significantly different between one release and another. Just because MAL labels all release groups "fansubbing groups," it doesn't mean they're all actually fansubbing groups.

If the groups are dead, search moar; there's one particular "stupid" torrent site that specializes in complete torrents of all the English-translated anime they can get away with hosting. If it's not on the feline tracker and not licensed by Funimation or NISA, it's probably on there. And the versions hosted are considered by some consensus to be the best available.

How do you pick when the mob is mostly screaming bloody murder?
Before anything, I go for groups that release in resolutions and formats I prefer and display at least some competence in English. These days, that would be groups like UTW, Mazui, EveTaku, m.3.3.w, Static-Subs, and Doki (but not Hadena or SubDESU). In the past, I would've included Eclipse, Frostii, Ayako, Chihiro, FFF, and Underwater, but they either shut down or stopped releasing low-res.

As for sifting through the comments, find places where the mob is screaming bloody murder against aspects you like. For instance, I like readable, liberal subs, so when I see MAL downvotes for reasons like "too localized," "trolling*," "too many liberties," "this group is the equivalent of doujinshi rewrites," "huge subs," "subs are too obtrusive," "subs placed too high/use too many N line breaks" or "text colors stand out too much," I can tell it's a release worth checking out. Other than that, the comments on AniDB and the reviews at Dark_Sage's and 8thsin's sites can provide more long-form comparison and analysis of releases.

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Yeah Doki is decent but they use the same bloody font for almost every series' karaoke.
I thought people watched anime to be entertained by anime, not to be amused by font choices.

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The ones that do their episodes in 720p, and don't make god-awful squid puns.
And if it's a show that doesn't involve squid or isn't available in 720p...?

Shiveron said:
There are a few I dislike though. No Coalgirls, I DON'T want 500TB of Flac audio files and OP/ED's with my download, I just want to watch my friggen show.
I'm with you on the FLACebo audio, but you clearly don't know what CoalGirls (and others) are doing with those OPs/EDs. By using .mkv segment linking, they can avoid including the same OP/ED with every single episode, thus using LESS disk space. To be specific, the space savings are [Size of OP+ED] * ([# of episodes where OP/ED appear] - 1 ). And you can always choose not to download the OP/EDs at all.

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Though I stay away from those crappy subs, where it's translated to chinese then to english so it's all wrong(and if someone's name is Takeshi, it's translated to Xhiayo, I don't even smh).
Those typically aren't from subbing groups, though -- they're from rips of bootleg Southeast Asian discs.

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I just download whatever first. I don't nitpick about extremely minor errors like everyone else. Who the fuck cares if they added -san to the characters name in the subs.

Only exception that I will ignore is Hadena unless they're the only ones subbing.
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rederoin said:
JavierR said:
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Just don't pick gg or Hadena.


whats wrong with gg or hadena? I watch both of them... Am I doing something wrong?

GG is fine, although it depends on the show.

Hadena is horrible, avoid them at all cost. They can't translate for shit.
it's a problem when hadena is the only group subbing a show you want to watch.


It almost happened this season (Sukitte Ii na yo). I was checking torrent sites frequently and still see that Hadena's the only one doing the sub, so I was forced to watch their release. It was a problem for me because I liked the plot and I want the best subs available. Good thing IB came to the rescue and I immediately replaced my copy.

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Yeah Doki is decent but they use the same bloody font for almost every series' karaoke.
I thought people watched anime to be entertained by anime, not to be amused by font choices.


Well, there are people like me who enjoy watching anime more if the font choices are good for a certain series.

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I'll just leave these here

If you guys want to compare the subs:
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I just avoid Hadena subs. All other ones I seem to have no problems with.
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Usually go by whoever is the highest rated on each page. But I do have my trusted groups: UTW, Eclipse, GotWoots, Central Anime, BSS, SS, Mazui and a few others. Avoid groups like HorribleSubs, just CR rip groups. CR subs are utter shite. You have to be careful when choosing though as quite a lot of sub groups are only rip groups i.e they rip from CR and use their subs or just rip from DVDs and use those subs.
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Usually go by whoever is the highest rated on each page. But I do have my trusted groups: UTW, Eclipse and Central Anime. Avoid groups like HorribleSubs, just CR rip groups. CR subs are utter shite.

Shiveron said:
I have a few preferences, (UTW/URW, HS, and Eclipse usually) but if they're not up I don't really care. There are a few I dislike though. No Coalgirls, I DON'T want 500TB of Flac audio files and OP/ED's with my download, I just want to watch my friggen show.


Then don't download them? You know you can choose, right?


You do know that CR and Eclipse share members right?
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
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BloodRequiem said:
Tyestor said:
Usually go by whoever is the highest rated on each page. But I do have my trusted groups: UTW, Eclipse and Central Anime. Avoid groups like HorribleSubs, just CR rip groups. CR subs are utter shite.

Shiveron said:
I have a few preferences, (UTW/URW, HS, and Eclipse usually) but if they're not up I don't really care. There are a few I dislike though. No Coalgirls, I DON'T want 500TB of Flac audio files and OP/ED's with my download, I just want to watch my friggen show.


Then don't download them? You know you can choose, right?


You do know that CR and Eclipse share members right?


And...? A lot of sub groups use translators from different groups too. CR are shit and Eclipse is not, doesn't matter if they share members. In the end, that's all that matters.

EDIT: Should probably say that Eclipse WERE good. Sad that they stopped subbing.
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BloodRequiem said:
Tyestor said:
Usually go by whoever is the highest rated on each page. But I do have my trusted groups: UTW, Eclipse and Central Anime. Avoid groups like HorribleSubs, just CR rip groups. CR subs are utter shite.

Shiveron said:
I have a few preferences, (UTW/URW, HS, and Eclipse usually) but if they're not up I don't really care. There are a few I dislike though. No Coalgirls, I DON'T want 500TB of Flac audio files and OP/ED's with my download, I just want to watch my friggen show.


Then don't download them? You know you can choose, right?


You do know that CR and Eclipse share members right?


man, you learn something new everyday.

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