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Oct 3, 2012 2:25 PM
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Start Date: Saturday, October 6
Pace: 1 episode a day, but we will watch the first 2 episodes on day one.


Since I already watched episode 1, I will post my first impressions.

Episode 1
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Episode 1


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Well, I guess the narrative style is because it's a novel and I can definitely see the 'commenting on his life' part to be more interesting in a novel than it is in a visual medium. Only that way wonderful lines like 'That was my first contact with Ozu, as well as my worst contact.' can be heard again and again ^^.
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That would make sense, I can see how those parts would work better in a novel.

Higashi_no_Kaze said:
Only that way wonderful lines like 'That was my first contact with Ozu, as well as my worst contact.' can be heard again and again ^^.
Haha, I guess you're right, some amazing lines do come from those segments, I shouldn't forget that.
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I'll always wait so I can watch 2 or 3 episodes at once at least, but I wanted to let you know that I'm definitely still in.
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Oct 7, 2012 11:22 PM
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Okay, no problem. I'm just glad I've got someone to watch it with. It's probably good to see other people's perspective on this one.
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Episode 4
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Episode 3


Episode 4


Episode 5


Episode 6 (as I go)


I'll hold myself back and stop now before it's too late xD.
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Nice catch on that hint during the bicycle race, I didn't quite put the pieces together in time.

Very interesting that episode 4 was your favorite up that point, because I found it to be my least favorite. Goes to show you how different our tastes actually are. That pink-dyed kimono was pretty slick though, I totally forget about that part. Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention that my favorite part in episode 4 was, as you just brought up,


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Hehe, of course I know about the scene at the end, I just wanted to know what your guesses were ^^.

As for the timing issue, maybe you're thinking different after you see where episdoe 6+ go to. Though I agree that Episode 5 and 4 could have been swapped out, episode 5 seems a bit mis-timed in the concept.

And glad you're also a fan of 'Johnny' (the cowboy). Soon-ish you'll see him in the series, look forward to it :P.
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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
Hehe, of course I know about the scene at the end, I just wanted to know what you're guesses were ^^.
Well shoot, now I will be thinking about this all day =0
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Oh wow, did I really write 'you're' there? *shamefully goes to edit*
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Oct 10, 2012 7:15 PM

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Haha, it happens.

Episode 6
Oct 11, 2012 6:35 PM

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The site where I'm watching this is giving me trouble right now, I think I will wait till tomorrow and just watch two episodes at once. And perhaps I will continue on the pattern of 2 episodes at once, it's more convenient that way, you've got the right idea.
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Episode 7


Episode 8

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Episode 7


I'll probably wacth the remaining 4 episodes in one session in one of the next 2 or 3 days.
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Oct 14, 2012 1:31 PM

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I think I'll do the same and just watch the final 3 episodes in one go on Monday.
Oct 16, 2012 7:24 PM

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At last, I found time to finish it! So many powers preventing me from finishing this.

Episode 9


Episode 10


Episode 11


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What a wonderful series, I had a great time watching this. I gave it an 8/10. I would have given it a higher rating if the ending could have somehow managed to give a completely different perspective to each storyline, but that never happened, and therefore I don't see this anime as having very much re-watch value.

These were my overall impressions of The Tatami Galaxy:

Pros
- The dialogue, directing, and visual style couldn't have been any better. From a writing stand-point, I respect this series a lot.
- A really good premise with just enough mystery to keep me hooked.
- Lots of variety and originality in each episode. It used my favorite storytelling style of being episodic, but with an overarching plot.
- Loads of interesting characters. Johnny was my personal favorite. Akashi needed more screen time though.

Cons
- Music works very well when it's there, but too often there is no background music at all.
- Almost too fast-paced, not enough time for me to get involved in the story. I often felt disconnected from the story.
- Occasionally comes off as nerdy, which is a first for any Yuasa Masaaki work. It didn't affect my opinion of it too much though, it's just sad to see Yuasa go in that direction in order to appeal to a larger fan-base.


After finally finishing all of Yuasa's major works, I thought it would be interesting to see how my close friend's ratings of his major works compared to my own. They usually rate much more harshly than I do, so I was surprised to see that they rated most of Yuasa's works extremely highly, probably in the top 5% of everything they've seen. Except for Kemonozume of course, which isn't quite as solid as his other works. Pretty much every one of my friends gave The Tatami Galaxy a 9/10, so I was really shocked to find out that I'm the outlier.

My close friends' order and average rating (from 8 different people):

  1. The Tatami Galaxy (8.9)
  2. Kaiba (8.7)
  3. Mind Game (8.6)
  4. Kemonozume (7.6)


My order and rating:

  1. Kaiba (9)
  2. Mind Game (8)
  3. The Tatami Galaxy (8)
  4. Kemonozume (7)


I can't wait for Yuasa's newest project to be complete, even though it's only going to be a short =(

I'm curious, are you a big Yuasa Masaaki fan Higashi? And how would you rank them?
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I just finished up the Tatami Galaxy specials...what in the world did I just watch? How about those land submarine that could change their surroundings into water-like substances lol!
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Yeah, the specials were 'weird' to say the least xD
How did you rate them? I rated them rather low because I didn't know what to make of them (It also took me 2 years to finish them because of subs etc..).

I'm gonna finish my Rewatch as soon as possible, maybe today (at latest until the end of the week) and give you a lengthy reply then.
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I was gonna rate the specials a 6/10 because I didn't know what to make of them either, that was until I watched the last special which I found to be really fun and trippy, so I bumped my score up to a 7/10.
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Episode 8


Episode 9


Episode 10


Episode 11

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I'm glad you enjoyed it, if not as much as I did. I really have to disagree with you on 2 points. Or rather the first is more of a question as I don't understand what you mean by 'nerdy' exactly and what 'direction' to appeal to a larger fanbase. I'd be interested in you elaborating on this.

The second point is your criticism of the ending. It would not make sense to force each timeline to a good outcome for various reasons. This seemed not like real parallell universes but like a real timeloop thing where it's the same Watashi living each life (Episode 10 was set outside any known space-time continuum anyway so that doesn't have to make sense). There were regular hints that he remembered previous episodes, if only vaguely. So at the end of his journey, after breaking out the 'tatami galaxy' there would be only the then-active timeline and the others wouldn't exist anymore. The whole timeloop thing was meant highly symbolical and happened inside Watashi so to speak, so I couldn't see an ending work where the various timelines existed parallell to each other outside the weird space of ep 10. Of course this interpretation is not confirmed I believe, but there are hints and it's hard to deny that the story is meant symbolical and in that light the ending we got to see was the only one that made sense.
If you need something to make a rewatch more exciting then let's assume the theory of Ozu knowing about the timeloops trying to 'help' Watashi in each timeline, just like Watashi does at the end of ep 11.
So while I see that it would have been fun to include some new perspective or outcome to the old timeloops and that the opportunity being Akashi wasn't very spectacular, it was inevitable for the series and the most perfect fit for what it tried to accomplish.

As for my rating, it is definitely up in my top 5% too. I gave it 91% but bumped it to 92% after this rewatch because I didn't expect to still love it so much. In fact I rated all the 4 other works a 7 (internal ranking would probably be Mind Game at 2nd after Tatami Galaxy with the other 2 having a tie for 3rd. My reasoning is like this:

1. Yuaasa's style, creativity and narrative methods work best for me with some underlying 'message' or something to identify with, if I get the feeling he really wanted to tell the audience something. Now I usually don't like that kind of symbolism (I hated FLCL because it tried way too hard), but Yuaasa does it so friggin' well and naturally and Tatami Galaxy is the culmination of this skill. And it had the clearest and still best-represented-by-animation idea/message which also happened to hit home with basically 100% accuracy. Mind Game is most similar in this aspect and therefore I enjoyed it the second most. Kemonozume had more of a purely romantic-tragedy kind of thing going on which didn't hit home for me and Kaiba, while very quirky, creative and interesting to watch, was just too much out there with what it tried to tell us. Too complicated and not as emotionally involving as the stuff in Tatami Galaxy and Mind Game. That being said I still admire all of his works for his creativity and could never give any of them something lower than a solid 7. So yeah, I'd call myself a fan xD.

2. This is related to the first point. Watashi might be one of my favorite MCs ever, I see so many sides of myself in him that it almost scares me sometimes. His overthinking goes along the same patterns as mine, his conclusions/solutions/excuses are similar and even how he reacts after each arc to cope reminds me of me. When the MC hits home like that the show as a whole is bound to treat a lot of topics that would quickly involve me emotionally and intellectually. As far as identification with an anime (character) goes, this takes the top spot for me by far.

So I really can't help but fawn over this. I would do so even if it hadn't been that well executed given the facts, but it WAS and that just made it so much greater.
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Nice observation!

Higashi_no_Kaze said:
I'm glad you enjoyed it, if not as much as I did. I really have to disagree with you on 2 points. Or rather the first is more of a question as I don't understand what you mean by 'nerdy' exactly and what 'direction' to appeal to a larger fanbase. I'd be interested in you elaborating on this.
That's going to be hard to explain if you didn't immediately understand what I meant by it. A better way of putting it might be to call nerdiness "A unique type of immaturity found in characters' behavior and speech, and sometimes found in the presentation of material." One obvious example of this would Akashi's fear of moths, and how she overreacts when seeing them. Another example would be how when Ozu was first introduced, there were a bunch of arrows pointing to him, and on the other side of those arrows were silly descriptions of his personality. Just the use of arrows in general is pretty nerdy thing to do lol, wouldn't you agree? I know a couple of my friends dropped The Tatami Galaxy for this very reason, they found the characters to be too quirky and unrealistic, and the presentation to be a bit too silly. I generally try to avoid that style of anime, so it always stands out like a sore thumb when I see it. It wasn't too heavy in this series, but still, this felt like Yuasa's first attempt at reaching out to that large fan-base (where the largest fan-base exists), while also staying true to his roots of having an overall serious tone.

But really, "nerdy" a very subjective term, so everyone will have a different interpretation of it.

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The second point is your criticism of the ending.

Well, I wouldn't say I had any real criticisms of the ending, it did everything right (and my interpretation of it is almost identical to yours actually). But I guess what I'm trying to say is that the ending was very close to what I expected it to be, and that it didn't take enough risks for me to be super impressed by it. I felt that, in this anime more than in any other I've seen, the ending was absolutely crucial in getting right, the whole anime felt like it was centered around the ending. Endings generally don't affect my overall rating of a series, but in a rare case like this, the ending felt like the most important aspect.

Higashi_no_Kaze said:
Yuaasa's style, creativity and narrative methods work best for me with some underlying 'message' or something to identify with, if I get the feeling he really wanted to tell the audience something. Now I usually don't like that kind of symbolism (I hated FLCL because it tried way too hard), but Yuaasa does it so friggin' well and naturally and Tatami Galaxy is the culmination of this skill. And it had the clearest and still best-represented-by-animation idea/message which also happened to hit home with basically 100% accuracy. Mind Game is most similar in this aspect and therefore I enjoyed it the second most. Kemonozume had more of a purely romantic-tragedy kind of thing going on which didn't hit home for me and Kaiba, while very quirky, creative and interesting to watch, was just too much out there with what it tried to tell us. Too complicated and not as emotionally involving as the stuff in Tatami Galaxy and Mind Game.

I find that all very interesting. What's funny is that for the same reasons that you liked his approach to The Tatami Galaxy, I disliked his approach. I much prefer when he takes a less story-driven approach, when it's more focused on adventure and bizarreness. Kaiba stands out to me as his best mainly because I found it to be the most emotionally-charged of his works, with Mind Game being somewhat of an emotional rollercoaster as well. Unlike you, I was completely emotionally detached from this series, it was more of an intellectual journey for me. But now I see why you rate it so highly. I also value any anime that can spark emotion as I believe it to be the single hardest thing to achieve in writing.
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Re: Nerdy - I guess I see what you mean. You made it sound so demeaning though that I thought maybe there was more than subjective impressions behind it. When you said it's sad he'd sink to this method I felt a bit offended because I'm actually quite the fan of such things and don't find them to be 'lesser' narrative methods. Of course it has to fit, like in SZS, but Tatami Galaxy and it's execution profited from it too. I think either you go all the way with the over-the-top execution, or you keep it simple and realistic - which obviously was never the intention of Tatami Galaxy. The emotions involved were realistic in their basics but beyond that it was, well, Yuaasa. 'Sillyness' is something else for me, sillyness isn't executed as purposefully as the shenanigans in Tatami Galaxy. And trust me that Watashi's ramblings and his character in general is not really that unrealistic at all *gg*.

Re: Endings - I also felt this was all centered around the ending, but because of that I'm glad he didn't try to force some experimentation at the end, but just carefully led all the threads together in the cleanest way possible, not getting in over his head. It was what I expected it to be (+ the bonus of excellent execution) and I'm more than content with it. More often than not series have endings that are inferior to the one's I pictured in my mind. Generally I'm very rarely a fan of an ending for various reasons.
1. Many Anime endings are incomplete/open ended which always sucks, especially knowing that there is more material that just won't get adapted. Endings like this never make me like them.
2. Then we have the clichéd endings of the various genres with some variation. I won't start naming examples, but I guess you get an idea of what I mean here. Everything is perfect, all are happy, the end.
3. We also have the 'neutral' endings as I like to call them. They don't risk much, don't try to answer everything but also don't leave anything too important unanswered. Maybe kill off a few side characters so the MCs can survive while giving us the feel that something could have happened to him. The point is, they don't try to make the audience like them especially by pandering to it too much, but also doesn't try to alienate it by pulling off shocking developments. You could consider them boring/anticlimatic, but in some cases that reinforces the realism of a show. More often than not it's just a no risk no fun ending though that tried too hard not to ruin the series.
4. The 'bad' endings that try their best to shock the viewer. Often seem forced, badly paced and for no real purpose. Pandering to the other end of the fandom is what I call it.

And I happen to find it quite easy to predict the ending type of most shows. I even regularly lose interest in shows after like 2/3's because the remaining developments are just laid out, maybe one twist more or less than similar ones, but still the same. So what I actually hope to get from an ending is just not to be disappointed too much by the predictability of it. And I don't mean predicting exact events, but things like 'okay, these are gonna be the matchups for the bossfights' or 'in the end they're gonna resolve their love triangles but no couples will be formed' etc...
If the execution makes it worthwile I can somehow enjoy it, but the rare real good endings are either unexpectedly brilliant and creative (very rare), strongly emotional because of splendid execution (probably the easiest way to get me to like an ending) or they are just perfect because nothing else could have been the ending without declassing the show. Tatami Galaxy and LOGH are prime examples for that. LOGH HAD to end with
just like Tatami Galaxy had to end with him grabbing that Mochiguman and finding Akashi. If a series is so well crafted that in retrospect the ending is of such inevitability that even after years you can't think of a single change or any other ending scenario that would have been able to improve it - That's the highest tier an ending can reach, when the story is so 'alive' that it basically writes itself. There are like 3 endings like that i can think of from the top of my head, and I've already mentioned 2 of them. The third would be The Wire. I'm sure I've seen a few more, but generally I expect to be disappointed from the ending of a show - whatever it may be. But because my disapproval is so widespread I don't let it influence my ratings much except in extreme cases.
Monster was a show for example where I was utterly disappointed by the ending. I know it should feel equally inevitable as I described above, but to me it just seemed stale and kind of close to dragging the whole show down to the level of pointlessness. Objectively there's not that much difference in those cases, just that Monster had 2 pre-written endings it could have pulled off (saving/killing Johan) and I just hated the choice they made for various reasons.

But I think I've rambled on long enough over this, lol.


Re: Yuaasa - Funny how you call Tatami Galaxy more story-driven than Kaiba. Wasn't Kaiba much more of a 'story' than Tatami Galaxy? You called it 'adventure' yourself, while Tatami Galaxy was basically just running in circles and had a total character-driven approach - is what I would say.
Also when did you find the time to get emotionally attached to Kaiba? I felt that I had trouble keeping up with the story and the characters (the similar and changing designs didn't make it easy to even identify the cast properly ^^). I had to think a lot more about what was going on so I felt like the distance never really closed and I could just observe the series instead of 'live' it. Tatami Galaxy/Mind Game felt a lot more like Haruki's english conversations while Kaiba resembles Watashi in the english club ^^. At least that was my impression, maybe a Kaiba rewatch would give me more time to concentrate on the dialogue and character interactions and change my mind.
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Also here is he answering some questions from fans about his new project and his life and person in general. Very recent too, just got the link from the News subforums.

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/11u1vs/i_am_masaaki_yuasa_director_of_production_igs/
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Yes, I suppose nerdiness is whatever you make of it, many love it and many hate it. Personally, I can't stand it. And the reason I say it's sad to see Yuasa go down that path is that I fear he may continue on that path, so I won't get nearly as much enjoyment out of his work, and I kind of feel that it goes against his natural style. Most people would probably welcome this change though.

Endings are a strange subject, mainly because I usually don't put much of a focus on them. That's why I find it odd when somebody won't watch an anime solely because they already know how it's going to end, I don't see that as being important. I do the same thing you do though, I like to predict what type of ending an anime will have. And as you said, more often than not it will be obvious which way it's headed. I actually do find a lot of beauty in simplistic endings, like in Monster, but I'm not quite sure why I find them so appealing...I never thought about it before.

I would definitely consider Tatami Galaxy more story-driven than Kaiba. Kaiba was focused mainly on exploring the world I felt, so the story felt secondary to me. Kaiba is a strange case though since the first half is all about world exploration, and the second half is where the meat of the story is, so it's a tough comparison to make. But you're right, it's probably best to call Tatami Galaxy a character-driven anime more than anything. Though, when comparing Tatami Galaxy to Yuasa's others works, I do feel that the story is most important in Tatami Galaxy.

It's interesting, I've noticed that we get emotionally attached to very different things. I'm different in that I almost never become attached to a character's personality like you do, I primarily become emotionally invested in events that take place or in a character's actions. Through reading and watching many reviews, I have found that most people are more similar to you in that respect. Most people spend a large portion of their reviews analyzing each main character and each of their traits. When I first started reading reviews, I thought that people were being overly obsessive about characters, but I eventually came to the realization that I was the odd one, and that I don't pay much attention to the characters' personalities.

I had to watch Kaiba 3 times to fully understand all of the character switching and confusing timelines lol. What I loved most about that show is that, even though I had about a list of 20 different questions after my first watch-through, every single one of my questions was answered by my third re-watch. That's the beauty of Kaiba in my opinion. Yes, it can be hard to follow at times, but the answers are always out there.
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If I'd watch something that I know the ending of depends on what kind of show it is. Obviously it doesn't really matter for episodic stuff like Bebop even if the great ending is spoiler. Not to mention slice-of-life harmless fun series. For romance/drama stuff it is a bit more relevant I'd say, but still of minor importance to me. When we're getting to shounen and seinen action adventures that are more or less plot-based, I would already have to think about it. I avoid reading the One Piece manga for example because it would drastically increase my enjoyment if I had to sit through the pacing of the TV series while knowing what will happen. I guess I'd tend to skip to other titles if I had read some massive spoilers about this that didn't seem like jibberish to me. As for stuff with a lot of mystery aspects and plot twists I would avoid it if I knew some essential spoilers.
I like to compare it to rewatch value, some shows just have a higher one than others. The DTB series is a good example because Season 1 is awesome to rewatch with a lot of episodic world exploration, great side characters and amazing dialogue. I didn't care that I knew what will happen while rewatching it. rewatching the parts after that was a chore though up until the end. Originally I didn't feel that the second season was that much worse than the first.
Of course I can't know for sure what's what in advance, but I know from experience that for shounen-ish adventure/action/whatever shows that aim towards some kind of showdown I lose interest 4-8 episodes before the ending in about 80% of the cases as soon as it becomes clear how the showdown will look like, what the circumstances and stakes will be, who will be involved, what will the stage be etc... If I knew the details of the showdown beforehand I would not really enjoy the show, I'd just feel impatient from ep 1 on.
I can definitely agree though that for many shows it doesn't play that much of a role (read: When they're all gonna disappoint me it doesn't have that much relevance ^^). Genre is a factor that I can't ignore in this respect.


Hm, maybe I would have enjoyed Kaiba more if I perceived it more as exploring-the-world. The twists and switched just made it seem to me like the story was supposed to be the main focus and selling point with the rest just being the setting that is as detailed as we know from Yuasa (I guess I wasn't completely wrong though considering your last paragraph. It seems like a weird hybrid-show.).


Interesting observations about our differences in emotional attachment. I find it hard to separate between personality and character actions though, those are kind of 2 sides of the same coin. True, there is a difference between me loving Watashi for being how he is and me favoriting f.e. Ayase from Chihayafuru because many of her scenes made me emotionally very attached (Tears may have been cried throughout the one or other episode). I'm guessing the last one is closer to what you mean with 'character actions' (though the personality behind it all palys a crucial role as to how I perceive the action too). If that's the case, then I have to say that those kind of emotional attachments are also more intense for me and more focused on the situation/actions/words. Not much identification happening though, unlike with other of my favorites like Watashi. With those I rarely have those emotional outbursts from a specific scene, so I guess you could call it less intense, but they on the other hand can upgrade a show all on their own from something I'd be mildly interested in at best to something of utter enjoyment. Kyon sold me to Haruhi at a time when I would never have considered watching shows that are not classical action/mystery/adventure/psychological shounen or seinen. Cause no matter what they do or say, with a certain degree of identification everything will be enjoyable to watch.
So I really couldn't say which of those I value more, though the Watashi-type is less common.
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Wow, that's really surprising. Of all the genres I would have suspected you to say that the ending would matter greatly in, a shounen action series would have been last guess. For those series I've always felt it's all about the journey and the presentation, and never about the outcome. I always know what's coming in Dragon Ball Z for instance, but damnit, it's always fun to watch it unfold. Heck, you can just read some of the episode titles in DBZ and know exactly what's going to happen in that episode: Frieza Defeated, Goku's Alive, Forfeit of Piccolo, Videl is Crushed, Pay To Win, Buu is Hatched, End of Earth, Earth Reborn, and so on lol. Funniest part is that the Japanese titles are 100 times more revealing.

You're right though, genre is definitely a big factor. I suppose for mystery it's a given that spoilers would ruin things.


I think you might enjoy Kaiba more if you know what's coming in advance. Basically if you understand that the first 6 episodes are all focused on world building, and that the last 6 episodes focus entirely on the main story, then you will more easily be able to get into it (it sure helped me get a clearer picture of what was going on, that's for sure). While admittedly the show is inconsistent, that did allow it to have great variety in its content.

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I find it hard to separate between personality and character actions though, those are kind of 2 sides of the same coin.
I actually had that same thought while I was writing that paragraph. I do think they are directly related, and they kind of work off of each other as you were explaining, so I will need to be more specific. I'm not entirely sure myself what I meant by 'character actions' actually. If I were to think in terms of specifics, I would say I get emotionally involved in how characters respond to certain situations (still pretty vague, but maybe you understand what I mean here), and in how they present themselves physically. Basically, I don't really care for them as characters, I only care about what they do and how they do it. Damn, this is a lot harder to explain than I thought it would be. For you to truly understand what I mean, you would have understand how little I care about characters, which is not something I can properly convey. Sometimes they seem to me like nameless and faceless chess pieces being moved about, and all I care about is how they are moved and how they attack lol.
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Hehe, I wouldn't really say the ending itself matters, but knowing what will happen makes the journey much more of a chore. I could never ever rewatch DBZ without taking my own life at the end because of how friggin little happens each episode. It's like you know what will happen and you watch it happen so slowly that it makes you cringe. It's hard to explain, but shounen do have the least rewatch value for me out of all genres. That being said, when I first watch a shounen the ending isn't important either. Many people hated on AnE because of the ending, I enjoyed the journey and didn't care much - it didn't influence my impression of the show. But rewatching would not work for me.

And those poor characters, shame on you for caring so little about their lives, lol.
I used to have a more story-orientated approach and taste, but quickly the same kinds of stories get old and predictable while characters became my main reason for if an anime is hit or miss for me. Characters for the win!
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On the other hand I may be lying because HxH is actually my favorite ongoing show at the moment and I have already watched the original and know what will happen. It will probably go further in the story, but still.
I give up, I don't even understand myself and my preferances xD
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I do agree that shounen generally have low rewatch value, but maybe for different reasons. Very few people know this, but I actually base my ratings entirely around re-watch value, and it's not often that I rate a shounen highly. DBZ is one of those rare exceptions, I find it to be an incredible audio-visual experience. And I kinda like the slow pace, it's like everything is happening in real time!
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Real Time is a lot faster than DBZ xD. I remember dozens of episodes showing a 10 or 20 minute countdown in the Frieza arc. I have actually never rewatched it, but shounen (long running ones) are kinda made to be watched weekly for me. I couldn't marathon the latest One Piece arcs (they go on for so long and except for a couple of episodes not that much is happening), but I gulp down each episode on a weekly basis.

And interesting to know that you base your ratings on rewatch value, I can definitely say that is not the case for me. Though if something happens to be greatly enjoyable the second time around I may bump the rating a little like with Tatami Galaxy or also Nodame Cantabile. But you hinted at it in your final thoughts on Tatami Galaxy now that I think of it.
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