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Sep 10, 2008 6:08 PM
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Ehhhh I don't think it was necessary for them to have the commander actually participate in a fight. Apparently the preview shows Ichigo was not affected by this negation thing... or he somehow broke through it with his super sekret vaizard skills. That'll just prove that he's stronger than the commander? It'll be pretty damn stupid if that were to actually happen.
Sep 10, 2008 6:17 PM
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Amagi's weapon negates shinigami abilites. But since Ichigo has Vizard abilities as well they probably don't negate those.
Sep 10, 2008 6:28 PM
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Dagonfel said:
Amagi's weapon negates shinigami abilites. But since Ichigo has Vizard abilities as well they probably don't negate those.


What he said. It's not showing Ichigo stronger than the Commander, it's just showing that he has more...capabilities so to speak.

If the Commander CAN'T fight because of Amagai's Bakkoutou, then a bee sting would be stronger than the Commander in that state. But that's not the point. :P
Sep 10, 2008 7:06 PM
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Holy Shit, Still laughing my ass off from that girly voice~ And pretty decent episode i might add :)
Sep 10, 2008 7:13 PM
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Good episode i enjoyed the plotline to it
Sep 10, 2008 8:07 PM
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lol at the voice...
Sep 10, 2008 8:25 PM
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next ep might be epic (yeah, and lolz at Enryuu's voice)
Sep 10, 2008 9:48 PM
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umm this arc just got dumb. he is gonna go vaizard in front of the supreme commander....duuuuuuumb.
Sep 10, 2008 10:09 PM

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Way too much chattering in this episode for my taste. More action FTW!
Sep 10, 2008 10:21 PM
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Way too much chattering in this episode for my taste. More action FTW!


i agree... just cut the BS and it would be way more badass
Sep 10, 2008 11:28 PM

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more fighting!!!!!!!!!!


Sep 10, 2008 11:30 PM

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I love Enryuu's voice! XD
Sep 11, 2008 2:26 AM

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Yeah... lets make it look like the Captain Commander is finally going to kick all sorts of ass and then immediately have his power be negated so he can't do anything... awesome! This episode was a disappointment from that perspective. We've only seen the Captain Commander fight (two captains at once with his Shikai) for a brief stint in the Soul Society Arc and he was barely in the second movie as well. I was hoping for a full episode of him and Amagai going at it for awhile. I guess they have to do whatever they can to make Ichigo look as badass as possible. Stupid fillers!!!!!

Also, with Amagai's bankai release why were the other Captains unable to feel out his reiatsu? He was masking it during his transportation. I highly doubt he could mask it and go into bankai form since that really doesn't make any sense. Not to mention Captain Commander also released his shikai form so wtf?? I know they could at least sense that!

Sep 11, 2008 2:30 AM

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It really did piss me off how the captains were standing beside each other talking like they were in a FU**** picnic, what really really pissed me off that no one even cared that the about captain-commander when he released his sword, I mean if they sensed such huge-ass reiatsu, aren't they supposed to move their asses directly to the captain-commander..... omg i mean gosh i know this is a filler but there is a limit at how stupid the filler writers can be!! and also how the filler bodyguards rescued the damn princess in front of amagai and old man yama totally ruined the moment.
Sep 11, 2008 3:11 AM

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They should just rush straight to the captain commander..^^

Good talking ep, can't wait for action next.

This filler is not to bad.
Sep 11, 2008 7:12 AM
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Enryuu's voice was just a cheap attempt to make the viewer laugh. It was dumb.

As soon as Amagai mentioned that his Bakkoutou could negate shinigami powers, the image of Ichigo in his Vizard form came to mind; they shouldn't have showed that in the previews, would've created more "suspense".

I was starting to like Amagai... too bad he turned out to be a bad guy; i didn't foresee that at all.

I agree with what most people here said about the other captains sensing either the Captain-Commander's or Amagai's reiatsu; if they can even sense a Menos's reiatsu from REALLY far away, how come a captain's bankai and the captain-commander shikai can be totally overlooked?!

I'm looking forward for the next episode, to finally see some action. I'd wish for these fillers to end and then, again, "teleport" Ichigo in some miraculous way back to Las Noches. (Have you noticed how he duplicated himself? He's supposed to be in Las Noches yet he's in Soul Society, too.)


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Sep 11, 2008 7:20 AM

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Enryuu's voice was just a cheap attempt to make the viewer laugh. It was dumb.

As soon as Amagai mentioned that his Bakkoutou could negate shinigami powers, the image of Ichigo in his Vizard form came to mind; they shouldn't have showed that in the previews, would've created more "suspense".

I agree with what most people here said about the other captains sensing either the Captain-Commander's or Amagai's reiatsu; if they can even sense a Menos's reiatsu from REALLY far away, how come a captain's bankai and the captain-commander shikai can be totally overlooked?!

My thoughts exactly, Enryuu's voice was the dumbest thing in anime existence, Amagai's negating Bakkoutou is just a cheap attempt to rely on Ichigo's Vizard powers saving the day and why hasn't anyone sense 3 immense Reiatsu's yet (>_<)?
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Sep 11, 2008 9:53 AM
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i was waiting till ichigo put his mask on and everybody wents " =OOO omg ? "
Sep 11, 2008 11:47 AM
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erwinmm89 said:

I'm looking forward for the next episode, to finally see some action. I'd wish for these fillers to end and then, again, "teleport" Ichigo in some miraculous way back to Las Noches. (Have you noticed how he duplicated himself? He's supposed to be in Las Noches yet he's in Soul Society, too.)
Actually, this filler arc doesn't even have a timeline. They just went all "SO you know, Ichigo just totally saved Orihime, but before he has time to go rescue everyone else who's screwed up, let's see this totally unrelated story that happened at some point in the Bleach timeline. When does it happens? Who cares, it just happened at some point, go with the flow here !". Just pretend it never happened and that Ichigo just took a little breather after his intense 1 hour Vizard transformation (go wacky Anime time go !).

Sep 11, 2008 1:47 PM

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I knew that the voice would be like that but i still laughed the hell out of it.

Sep 11, 2008 1:56 PM

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That was a total waste of time... =[

The Old man really should keep his shirt on ... He might catch a cold =]

Overall, i was sooooo bored...
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Sep 11, 2008 3:16 PM

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...and wasn't it dull? Four captains and Yoruichi chatting carelessly about Amagai's betrayal, Amagai telling story about his sad childhood and in the end Ichigo with his not even convincing moralizing speech. Amagai with his almighty lightBakuttou just made me laugh... I remember Ukitake and Shunsui were afraid of figting together against Ol'Yama, so I doubt Amagai could really be match for him... but we have to have an excuse for Ichigo using his Vizard powers, of course :|
I only hope that fight between Ichigo and Amagai in next episode would be more interesting...


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Sep 11, 2008 3:28 PM

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loled so hard at Enryuu's voice
Sep 11, 2008 4:00 PM

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Now would be an interesting time for Ichigo to learn how to use Cero. Too bad that's not going to happen in a filler episode.
Sep 11, 2008 4:36 PM

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well i see this arc as beinga side story.
this episode, well on one side i'm happy we got some background, motive on Amagai, but other then that, it was dull..
I really wanna see Genryusai's bankai and fighting but i guess they don't wanna spoi those giant things in a filler. Yeh the moment Amagi started about negating shinigami powers i knew Ichigo would save the day, as the masked vizard.
I suppose it doesn't really matter that everyone sees his vizard form since there i no connection to the main storyline.

On to the next episode,where i hope they cut donw on the chat and get on with the fight


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Sep 11, 2008 7:48 PM
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There might just be something quite interesting in the next episode, though.

While talking to a friend of mine, we came to the conclusion that maybe, JUST MAYBE, Ichigo will be forced to let the Vizard side of him take total control of his body in order to beat Amagai (since he's pretty strong, apparently), and that this might end up in Ichigo becoming stronger and developing new, more interesting techniques.

This fight has the potential to be pretty good; hopefully they exploit it.


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Sep 11, 2008 9:12 PM

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loool this episode was dump,no the whole arc was just dump

and i expect next episode will be like 18min talking and 2min fighting maybe shorter
Sep 11, 2008 9:21 PM

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I enjoyed this episode for the most part. I wasn't expecting Amagai's sword to negate Shinigami powers. The problem with this filler arc is that it made Yamamoto seem way too weak.
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poor Enryuu... that voice... :S

i cant wait for the next episode.. i want a fight please!!!
Sep 12, 2008 1:29 AM

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lol people stop bitching, this is 10 times better then the current bleach manga chapters.
Sep 12, 2008 2:49 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ehhhh I don't think it was necessary for them to have the commander actually participate in a fight. Apparently the preview shows Ichigo was not affected by this negation thing... or he somehow broke through it with his super sekret vaizard skills. That'll just prove that he's stronger than the commander? It'll be pretty damn stupid if that were to actually happen.


What power does Ichigo have?
None, all he his is pure speed. The only thing I can see not working on him is Getsuga Tensho.
Sep 12, 2008 2:53 AM

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There might just be something quite interesting in the next episode, though.

While talking to a friend of mine, we came to the conclusion that maybe, JUST MAYBE, Ichigo will be forced to let the Vizard side of him take total control of his body in order to beat Amagai (since he's pretty strong, apparently), and that this might end up in Ichigo becoming stronger and developing new, more interesting techniques.

This fight has the potential to be pretty good; hopefully they exploit it.



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Sep 12, 2008 7:18 AM
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Viperslayer said:
erwinmm89 said:
There might just be something quite interesting in the next episode, though.

While talking to a friend of mine, we came to the conclusion that maybe, JUST MAYBE, Ichigo will be forced to let the Vizard side of him take total control of his body in order to beat Amagai (since he's pretty strong, apparently), and that this might end up in Ichigo becoming stronger and developing new, more interesting techniques.

This fight has the potential to be pretty good; hopefully they exploit it.



LOL FILLER
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Lol, yeah. I highly doubt it'll happen since it's a filler episode, but... Oh well..

=.=


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Sep 12, 2008 1:59 PM

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Poor that Amagai turned out to be bad guy. Anyways, I knew from the beginning that something like this will happen since he's a filler character and they just had to get rid off him somewhow. And what's with that poor animation? Sometimes it looks like a slideshow -_-''
Sep 12, 2008 5:57 PM

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Pretty good episode I guess. About time we saw his bankai, and gonna get his ass handed to him by Ichigo.
Sep 12, 2008 8:35 PM
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AAAHAHHAA @ Kenyu's voice.

If i had a voice like that I wouldnt speak either.
Sep 12, 2008 8:37 PM
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Poor that Amagai turned out to be bad guy. Anyways, I knew from the beginning that something like this will happen since he's a filler character and they just had to get rid off him somewhow. And what's with that poor animation? Sometimes it looks like a slideshow -_-''

QFT

Through the whole fillers I was thinking how they would get rid of Amagai.

I feel sorry for Kira. Now he got 2 captains turning bad on him. He was pretty messed up from Gin doing that, now he has 2 on his conciounse.
Sep 12, 2008 8:38 PM
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Pretty good episode I guess. About time we saw his bankai, and gonna get his ass handed to him by Ichigo.

Actually I really wanted to see Yamato's Bankai or shikai. Since its a filler anyways, and we seen ichigo's movies many times alreayd, it would be awsome to watch the strongest of the goki 13 show off his powers.
Sep 13, 2008 11:48 AM

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i was watching the episode with a couple of friends. i said that i thought we would see his mask and they were arguing that we wouldn't because it wouldn't make sense for him to show it in Soul Society - which i agree to an extent because wouldn't the other Shinigami be able to sense him? it is a hollow form after all. we were thinking that they might be transported to Hueco Mundo but it's a big stretch. however, if they do this it could be a transition.

yes, it is a filler arc and technically this won't effect the Hueco Mundo scenario since it has nothing to do with what is really happening in the storyline. i'm just wondering how they will transition this arc back to what we are all waiting on. ^^

just two more episodes to go: "Duel! Amagai vs. Ichigo" & "The Fallen Shinigami's Pride". i can't wait for the new season.


Sep 14, 2008 2:19 AM

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Damn. This episode was so made up... All of this sh*t so that Yama-jii can learn about Ichigo being a Vaizard? This episode made me lose all the interest I had for this filler arc.
Sep 15, 2008 7:27 AM

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Everything this to kill an old? A vendeta? Very ugly! Aizen where you are!
Sep 15, 2008 8:40 PM

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I really think this arc wasn't thought through well enough.It had potential though...for a filler.

Anyway, this episode was full of surprises.
But those surprises made me ask so many questions -.-

Good thing this is filler cuz there are so many wtf scenes.
Sep 18, 2008 1:43 PM

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I was also waiting for the classical scene where Ichigo grins and his opponent ask "What's so funny?" and Ichigo does this super awesome move (in this case, put his Hollow mask on), but it NEVER happened DAMNIT.
I was watching the episode's timeline during their chitchat and I swear I thought to myself, this fight is so not gonna be in this episode. I was right :(
Sep 22, 2008 11:41 AM
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1 out of 5
Why oh why did you have to be so dense and annoyingly stuck on that puny attempt of revenge? Really, really disappointing... I'm with Ichigo on this one. Damn, what a dunce. I liked Amagai, I really did, and he goes and does this... I'm disappointed... bad ep. just because of that, in my pov.
Sep 24, 2008 8:06 AM

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I didn't like this episode, this whole thing seems stupid to me. And it's OBVIOUS that Amagai's power negates the shinigamis' zampakutou's but not Ichigo's vaizard skills...

*sigh* the only plus in this situation is that we'll get a nice fight next episode, hopefully. Otherwise, a weak episode
Oct 4, 2008 10:53 PM

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Whats up with all these traitors and civil war!? Man the 3rd division has it rough...2 captains as traitors... >.>
Oct 11, 2008 9:50 PM
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enryuu voice was pretty funny......but i hate the fact t5hat they couldnt let the captain commander go all out at least a bit but no ichigo had to interrupt and so on.........sigh.......................all the cool fights they could have done...........hitsugiya and the 3rd cap......and so on but no all lame fights to none basically..............dam just let the cap commander fight and watch....dam ichigo
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K so this was definitely the most pointless, confusing, low-budget, poorly animated episodes of the whole thing.
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LOL Enryuu has such a weird voice! xD I can see why he hardly talked at all. Rofl. Zzzz Amagai's story is cliche I could tell what he was about to say... I somewhat sympathize with him.
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