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Aug 30, 2008 11:40 AM
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I've been reading all over the net and most people hate him but so far i have never seen anyone put up a argument on his side so i was wondering if i asked this question how many arguments i would get that were better then"i hate him because he's a pimp" so please tell me what you think of him. |
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Sep 2, 2008 2:03 PM
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Sep 2, 2008 7:06 PM
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quote] SwordWielder said: I see but do you have any evidence supporting it?in the anime, he's a jerk. in the manga, he's caring and compassion . in the game, he's alright, but mostly depends on what u want him to do. im saying this because i've seen the anime, read the manga and got the game and playing it. |
Sep 2, 2008 8:27 PM
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source a vid of me recording the game a pic of school days on my desktop ![]() still need more proof? |
Sep 3, 2008 4:14 AM
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SwordWielder said: source a vid of me recording the game a pic of school days on my desktop ![]() still need more proof? Lol i bealived you played it and all i meant proff as in why is he a jerk in the anime and such without proff its no better then "i hate him because he's a pimp" |
Sep 3, 2008 4:20 AM
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Sep 3, 2008 2:39 PM
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SwordWielder said: he's a jerk cause he doesn't care about the girls. Yes he doesn't but he does you see he cared about kotohana intill seki (bad spelling) tricked him into falling for her because he isn't that great because he desires naughty things (lol) and seki offered him naughty things tricking him. Note this is slightly biased because im a kotohana fan. |
Sep 3, 2008 10:45 PM
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Sep 17, 2008 9:47 PM
#9
...Yeah...but thats what a normal teenager would do. He's no saint to be fair...but he's a 15 year old teen who gets offered tons of sex in less than a week...its goign to take him a longer time to put things in perspective than an adult. |
Sep 17, 2008 11:54 PM
#10
Teenage boys can't always be helped when it comes to naughty things, but adult or not he should've been able to stay loyal with those he loved instead of abandoning them for just sex... That's common sense among people I'd say, but of course Matoko's biggest issue (as seen in the first episodes) was to not understand girls and emotions and act properly according to them.. |
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Sep 18, 2008 4:17 AM
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Sep 18, 2008 4:26 AM
#12
true but the manga shows he cares for both were the anime is just he's a sex craved peveret who is corrupted by sekai (coming from a kotohana fan) |
Oct 6, 2008 5:14 PM
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LemursOWN said: true but the manga shows he cares for both were the anime is just he's a sex craved peveret who is corrupted by sekai (coming from a kotohana fan) Which is probably the biggest let down, in the anime, his desires are more outright, more blatant. For example, sekai, is first interested in him from the very beginning as it's brought out in later episodes. She asked to be placed next to him in terms of seating, she 'pushed' him onto kotonha since she knew that giving him a reason to 'adore' her, he would appreciate her hard work. Of course it didn't work out that way, she ends up wanting him more, seeing as the kid really acts like he's in love but, in the midst of it all, just wanted one thing that all teenage boys want. Sex, lots of it. So, with all that, it's a matter of your concious, are you bothered by this guys blatant monogamy, his total lack of respect for the female body and by those around him. Sekai and makoto got there just deserves, but really, that's just the anime, there are few like this series i've seen that really evoke that kind of 'wow, i hate the b**tard" |
Dec 5, 2008 1:50 PM
#15
in anime he is f**king f**ker. hate him ( ruined 2 lives + his own one |
Dec 5, 2008 7:24 PM
#16
He is a pimp, and therefore hilariously awesome compared to other male protagonists. |
Feb 1, 2009 10:13 PM
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Makoto was an asshole, not because he was a pimp, but because he was a selfish prick. In the first few eps he knew that he didn't really care for katsura. he even said that having a girlfriend was tiresom (which was probably insinuating boring as well) and at hte first chance he got, he went with sekai because she was putting out. When they kissed in front of the station at the end of ep 5 he was just grabbing her ass. After that, he slept w/ anybody he pleased and even forced himself on her best friend. I'm not going to bash makoto for having sex w/ the girls who just threw themselvs @ him. Any man with a penis wouldn't push them away honestly, but when he made the first moves is what made him an asshole. Objecterror said: LemursOWN said: true but the manga shows he cares for both were the anime is just he's a sex craved peveret who is corrupted by sekai (coming from a kotohana fan) Which is probably the biggest let down, in the anime, his desires are more outright, more blatant. For example, sekai, is first interested in him from the very beginning as it's brought out in later episodes. She asked to be placed next to him in terms of seating, she 'pushed' him onto kotonha since she knew that giving him a reason to 'adore' her, he would appreciate her hard work. Of course it didn't work out that way, she ends up wanting him more, seeing as the kid really acts like he's in love but, in the midst of it all, just wanted one thing that all teenage boys want. Sex, lots of it. So, with all that, it's a matter of your concious, are you bothered by this guys blatant monogamy, his total lack of respect for the female body and by those around him. Sekai and makoto got there just deserves, but really, that's just the anime, there are few like this series i've seen that really evoke that kind of 'wow, i hate the b**tard" I don't think Sekai was bad. She was in love w/ Makoto from the start. She was trying to get him to adore her, but she didnt' do anything bad. Makoto was the one cheating on katsura with her. Makoto should have properly broken up with katsura the way sekai had told him to in order to avoid all the drama. Sekai really didn't do anything wrong, considering I believe that she actually was pregnant. |
thor123422Feb 1, 2009 10:28 PM
Feb 6, 2009 9:31 PM
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Mar 14, 2009 5:43 AM
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Apr 25, 2009 10:12 AM
#20
I know that he's the main character and that without him the story would be a crap, but... I FUCKING HATE HIM!!!, he just played with sekai and kotonoha and with that face of good guy of his, he deceived everyone and he's the most selfish character that i've ever watched on an anime, he just thinks with his dick. Poor Kotonoha, poor Sekai, but i feel more pity for Kotonoha. TxT SUFFER MAKOTO, DIE MAKOTO. HAHAHAHA!!!![]() ![]() |
BlivionisApr 27, 2009 6:57 PM
Apr 26, 2009 3:09 AM
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I understand why there's all this hate towards Makoto. But seriously, let's be a little realistic. If the guys here had the opportunity from being the quiet guy that doesn't really stand out to the badass guy that pretty much slept with all the chicks in the school (a man whore). Wouldn't you do the same thing? I mean really...just try looking at it from a testosterone filled 15 year old boy point of view. |
May 5, 2009 5:46 AM
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he is a confused man, the only one in his head, how do I get a girl in my bath! he acts without any consequences! |
May 17, 2009 10:57 PM
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May 22, 2009 1:18 AM
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May 24, 2009 12:20 PM
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I can't even read this, heh. Sekai wasn't evil, she didn't 'trick' Makoto into liking her. You can't 'trick' someone into having feelings. She was bad to Kotonoha, but in all honesty, she had no loyalties to Kotonoha and as someone else already pointed out - Makoto is the cheating bastard and he should have properly broken up with poor Kotonoha, instead of just ignoring her and acting like she didn't exist. Plus, you can't say Sekai created Makoto into being a pervert because the first time he spent time with Kotonoha, he tried to feel her up? Kotonoha was somewhat AFRAID of Makoto for a while, because she was afraid ofall boys and he only made it worse - that was not from Sekai, either. I don't think Sekai is innocent, either, she did make some retarded mistakes, but she was being driven insane by someone that only used her for sex, and when she said no, he went with every other girl he could. They didn't 'trick' him, either. He just wanted sex. And one shouldn't say that teenage boys are like that? Seriously... that's not true? Most teenage boys are not stupid enough to sleep around with a bunch of girls that know each other, are kind of close to each other, are friends, all know each other because SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN. If a guy cheats, it's with someone you wouldn't know, usually, or ONE best friend, not with all your friends and every single person you know.. because they would end up like Makoto. Give guys a little more credit than that, I've only known one guy that I could actually compare to Makoto. I've known some that cheated, but not like that. He just moved from girl to girl when the girl turned him down, and then at another point, he was just gross and slept around with everyone - this kind of guy most normal girls would avoid - only whores would sleep with him in real life since you'd totally get an STD. >.> |
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May 24, 2009 12:21 PM
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I can't even read this, heh. Sekai wasn't evil, she didn't 'trick' Makoto into liking her. You can't 'trick' someone into having feelings. She was bad to Kotonoha, but in all honesty, she had no loyalties to Kotonoha and as someone else already pointed out - Makoto is the cheating bastard and he should have properly broken up with poor Kotonoha, instead of just ignoring her and acting like she didn't exist. Plus, you can't say Sekai created Makoto into being a pervert because the first time he spent time with Kotonoha, he tried to feel her up? Kotonoha was somewhat AFRAID of Makoto for a while, because she was afraid ofall boys and he only made it worse - that was not from Sekai, either. I don't think Sekai is innocent, either, she did make some retarded mistakes, but she was being driven insane by someone that only used her for sex, and when she said no, he went with every other girl he could. They didn't 'trick' him, either. He just wanted sex. And one shouldn't say that teenage boys are like that? Seriously... that's not true? Most teenage boys are not stupid enough to sleep around with a bunch of girls that know each other, are kind of close to each other, are friends, all know each other because SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN. If a guy cheats, it's with someone you wouldn't know, usually, or ONE best friend, not with all your friends and every single person you know.. because they would end up like Makoto. Give guys a little more credit than that, I've only known one guy that I could actually compare to Makoto. I've known some that cheated, but not like that. He just moved from girl to girl when the girl turned him down, and then at another point, he was just gross and slept around with everyone - this kind of guy most normal girls would avoid - only whores would sleep with him in real life since you'd totally get an STD. >.> [Sorry if this posted twice, my comments weren't coming up. O.o] |
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May 28, 2009 9:46 AM
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I do not like Makoto's behavior in the anime what-so-ever... but in his defense, if you were offered tons of sex by girls all around you, do you say no? It's a lot harder than you may think, especially since some of them gave off the "We don't need any strings attached," mentality. Some of them thought it'd work in that situation, cmon now! A confused young teen getting mixed messages, while no one gave him the dose of reality he needed. They all fed into the mixed crap, and how is he supposed to react? I don't condone it but I can level with him. And to say that this guy would be avoided in real life? I beg to differ... I know some real life Makoto's and in all honesty, this kind of thing happens more than we notice (sans the vicious ending). They are really good guys, but when it comes to relationships and girls, they completely fail. When I was a teenager, I can vouch that I knew nothing and was very immature. The initial hormone roller-coaster makes guys do stupid crap w/o even noticing. |
Jun 22, 2009 9:00 PM
#29
I blame Sekai. Had it not been for her, Makoto would've been fine. Still I like School Days but I despise everyone in it. |
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Jul 3, 2009 12:19 PM
#30
I like him But when Sekai Says He is An idiot Then I say He is Realy an Idiot |
Aug 8, 2011 3:32 PM
#31
I think I'm one of the few that likes Makoto. Sure he got caught up in what was going on and lost sight of who he was but near the end he found himself. It's not his fault all these different women want to be with him. Also, just because he was a cheater doesn't mean he deserved to die. I think a more appropriate ending would've been all the girls dumping him and him realizing he doesn't need to be in a relationship. |
Aug 12, 2011 3:23 PM
#32
I hate him. Maybe he didn't deserve to die, but he certainly deserves a huge punishment for what he did. At first I thought he was just stupid, and that he only had feelings for Sekai; not much was going on between him and the other girls, he was just afraid to dump them. But when I got into later episodes I realized that he didn't even care for Sekai that much. All he cared about was sex. |
Aug 12, 2011 3:39 PM
#33
I think instead of killing him, Sekai should've cut off his thingy. |
Aug 31, 2011 6:59 PM
#34
I'm not defending Makoto, but I see him getting all the "spotlight" and the faults of other characters are often overlooked, I'll just throw in my two cents for the sake of objectivity. First off, I'll say that he is an asshole, but not a bad guy, it is true that he emotionally destroyed female characters, but killing him was uncalled for. Throughout earlier episodes, he did show sympathy, and guilt. I think Sekai should be criticized more, while this alone does not liberate Makoto from his faults, misbehavior on her part should be exposed and you need to think about how the story would've been if it weren't for Sekai attempting to confuse Makoto by sending him mixed messages, and how she contributed to the development of Makoto as a character. I personally think Makoto couldn't have developed this way if it weren't for Sekai(seeing that he was feeling so guilty about cheating at first), she pretty much introduced him to cheating, yes, Makoto was at fault too but she should've refrained herself when she knew that the relationship between Katsura and Makoto was starting and I think Makoto gradually became desensitized about other people's feelings because of this. Perhaps Sekai triggered all this disaster and ended up tasting her own medicine near the end and killing another person for whatever reason other than protecting one's own life should not be justified. |
NekkoArcAug 31, 2011 7:03 PM
incisorr said: i love it when people start acting like some neutral almighty unbiased godly judge and they even believe their own shit, suddenly its not their thoughts and opinions anymore but the righteous justice god way, they are unbiased, non-subjective, they just are! To be honest, everyone is like this quite often, me included, but i don't forget myself and i still post a lot of personal shit which is what forums are made for , if they didn't want us to have our own style and posts it would be an article instead a forum thread. |
Mar 4, 2012 4:34 PM
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Jun 24, 2012 12:44 PM
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School Days (anime): He felt guilty for what he did in the beginning so I felt sympathy for his death. I didn't care for Sekai in this version either. School Days (manga): Felt worse for him and felt more animosity towards Sekai. Cross Days (manga): Makoto is a jerk without a conscious in this version so no sympathy from me. School Days (game): I generally thought he was a decent guy depending on the choices as the player you choose. |
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Jun 24, 2012 10:01 PM
#37
I actually think Makato is alright. In the anime he is a real ass and knows what he's done is wrong but doesn't bother to stop or redeem it. Saddened aby his death since he finally got together with Kotonoha. In the manga he is a very nice guy, complete opposite of the anime. I actually liked him better in this one. In the game it all depends on the choices you make. So he isn't really to be blamed if he ends up making bad choices (your choices). |
Sep 17, 2012 1:49 PM
#38
Makato wanted sex and there is nothing wrong with that and since he was so open about it during the first few episode it can not possible be perceived as deceptive in any way. So where did he do wrong? Was it because he had sex with women that were attached to him for no reason. Sorry but if the women of this show think a way into someones heart is through his penis, they are just plain naive. Never did openly confessed his love in serious way or promised devotion, and on top of all this all the women did not respect boundaries with everyone already knowing he had a gf but trying to get into his pants anyway. Why even try to get attached to someone that only wants you for sex and then expect him to be devoted to you after you have sex, sounds like flawed logic to me. In the end there is blame to be shared. |
Sep 3, 2013 6:05 AM
#39
Makoto is a robot and feels nothing...so in turn I feel nothing for him. It's the girls' fault for not realizing his dick was made of metal. |
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May 17, 2015 5:20 AM
#40
I think he just became what he is because of sekai that "tried to help him" to go out with other girl while she was the interested in makoto, then he transformed in that selfish person but I don't think he had bad intentions, he was kind of idiot and didn't want to let his wishes (sex), and have a seriously relationship with a girl. (Anime) |
taylor_bauerMay 17, 2015 5:36 AM
May 17, 2015 5:39 AM
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Anomio said: I think I'm one of the few that likes Makoto. Sure he got caught up in what was going on and lost sight of who he was but near the end he found himself. It's not his fault all these different women want to be with him. Also, just because he was a cheater doesn't mean he deserved to die. I think a more appropriate ending would've been all the girls dumping him and him realizing he doesn't need to be in a relationship. I completely agree with you |
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