Which is worse?
Violence
84.9%
118
Sex
15.1%
21
139 votes
| Caution, this thread may contain may be offensive to some. I would have to say that violence is far worse than sex. My reasoning? Would you rather walk in on your parents having sex or your dad beating your mom? If you look at violence and sex down to the base level, you realize a few things. They are both things that are considered taboo by society and different levels, but are both socially acceptable. They both happen naturally and are almost impossible to stop, and they both are vital to human survival to a certain extent. People say that sex is far worse than violence, in the media. Just at a glance, it would seem so. We don't want little kids seeing sex on television, n ow would we? Then they would think sex is alright and do it! We can't have that. But on the flip side, violence is widely accepted in the media, and many movies are released to great acclaim that feature mostly violence. People accept violence - man vs. man, fighting, but when it comes to sex (mostly) man + woman, people deem that unacceptable and immoral. I do not understand why. Sex gives life, violence takes it away, wouldn't it be natural that people would dislike violence more, and deem it unacceptable for children to view on television? People say that sex is far worse than violence because of pornography. They say that you can become addicted to pornography, and it makes your thoughts about the other sex diminish into thinking of them as mere playthings for your pleasure. If you just take a glance at it, this makes perfect sense, but what they fail to realize is that most pornographic videos that make men thing less of woman, have the men in the video being violent and treating the woman poorly. Violence comes into play, you see. If pornography didn't involve the threshold amount of violence that is does, would it make men think less of woman? Maybe, maybe not. But it boils down to how you perceive it. When you watch a pornographic video, it gives you sexual urges. Is that bad? I don't think so. Wanting to have sex isn't bad, but it becomes bad when you want it so much that you will do anything to get it, such as rape. Everybody who has watched pornography has watched violent movies, right? If they hadn't have watched the violent movies, they would be far less likely to try to take sex by force, which is violent. To me, there is nothing wrong with pornography until you become addicted to it, or it changes your outlook on things, both which can happen with anything. Violence on the other hand is people hurting each other purposefully, and movies with violence are made mostly for pleasure. We deem that is is alright for somebody to get pleasure and excited by watching two men fight to the death in a movie, but we also say that it is wrong to watch pornography. Which is worse? Getting a thrill off seeing people having sex, or getting thrilled by watching two people try to kill each other? Which is sicker? Which is less moral? Which should be more taboo? *sigh* I failed massively at this post, but there is just so much that I have to say about this topic that I don't have the time to organize it all right now. I will probably edit this post later on. |
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crowslayer91 said: boxing's a sport. i dont see professional blowjob tournaments being held on HBO. sex is worse for tv. most people (here in the US at least) are far more ashamed of sex than violence. violence makes the winner of the fight awesome and kickass. sex makes the winner look like the other person was just used as an item to gasm. how do you win at sex anyway? either way. for media purposes? sex is worse Oh how I lol at the bolded part. |
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| What's worse is both at once (rape and kill). In media it's hard to really judge this, violence and sex may be needed to progress a story. However porn and torture porn are what people should focus on instead in complaining. Just saying, there are worst out there than on TV edited or not. Still both has played a part in history, you make "violence" to change the world and you make "love" to keep mankind from being extinct. |
KuronoaJul 26, 2008 4:32 PM
| I don't really mind aslong as both are shown in a moderate sort of way. We can't really deny that violence and sex happens so I don't have a problem with it being on t.v. However if it's just sex for the sake of sex or violence for the hell of it; that annoys me so much. I also find the way the media portrays women and sex extremely degrading. So sex is worse. |
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| I think sex is getting too much of an easy ride in this thread, pun fully intended. It's used as a weapon, intimidation, and punishment just as much as violence is in this world. In terms of media, violence is very much more 'acceptable' than sex in most countries, and I suspect it might have to do with the religious majority of the country or something. But still, sexuality is rampant on TV wherever you are, I think. I can turn my TV on in the afternoon and see the equivalent of teen softcore porn playing, encouraging the nation's kids to sex themselves up and churn out unplanned babies ASAP. Its depressing. I just dont see the debate as what's worse anymore. I mean seeing a pair of boobs on TV usually wont be as striking as a man getting riddled by bullets, but context is everything. If boobs are always on TV in non-intimate contexts, then they can be accepted as part of the human anatomy, but if they're only seen during sex then the message is different. I dont know what the message is, because I'm sleepy and tired, but you get the jist. Context is everything, sex and violence are just as bad as each other, and in a weird way both as good as each other, as in violence's case, self-defence and fighting for a 'just' cause are celebrated as much as sex providing pleasure and new life are celebrated. Or something, I dunno. |
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| It depends on the context, they can be both as bad as each other. If we are talking about the effect they can have on a young mind, both can do quite a bit of damage in my opinion. Plus, you also have to factor in cultural difference. For example, contrary to popular belief, us Brits are a lot more liberal with regards to sex in the media. One example of this is the inclusion of the sex scenes in the game Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy in the US) over here but the removal of them in the USA. The respective classification boards treat sex and violence differently (US- ESRB, UK- BBFC) This cultural difference is mostly due to the difference in levels of religious belief (nowhere near as many regular church-goers here), but there are loads of other factors. This would affect how people might see this question. All in all, this is actually a harder question than many would first presume, and I haven't even gone into half of the issues here. I would be hard pushed to make a call here. |
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OranSolus said: Plus, you also have to factor in cultural difference. For example, contrary to popular belief, us Brits are a lot more liberal with regards to sex in the media. One example of this is the inclusion of the sex scenes in the game Fahrenheit Or the fact that there are naked women on page 3 of a major newspaper free for all to see. (oO) Even as a kid I didnt understand how that was possible or allowed, lol. |
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Cihan said: OranSolus said: Plus, you also have to factor in cultural difference. For example, contrary to popular belief, us Brits are a lot more liberal with regards to sex in the media. One example of this is the inclusion of the sex scenes in the game Fahrenheit Or the fact that there are naked women on page 3 of a major newspaper free for all to see. (oO) Even as a kid I didnt understand how that was possible or allowed, lol. Precisely! But then again, I stay as far away as possible from tabloid newspapers, they're just glorified gossip magazines. |
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OranSolus said: Precisely! But then again, I stay as far away as possible from tabloid newspapers, they're just glorified gossip magazines. You cant get away from them, they're plastered everywhere, page 3 boobs flying into your face via a brisk wind. Boobs everywhere. I doubt anyone here is a sociologist so not much we can make of the UK's experience of having boobs freely available in national newspapers for decades. |
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Cihan said: OranSolus said: Precisely! But then again, I stay as far away as possible from tabloid newspapers, they're just glorified gossip magazines. You cant get away from them, they're plastered everywhere, page 3 boobs flying into your face via a brisk wind. Boobs everywhere. I doubt anyone here is a sociologist so not much we can make of the UK's experience of having boobs freely available in national newspapers for decades. Yeah, if it is damaging, most men in the UK are screwed. I reckon about 9/10 schoolboys first saw breasts because of Page 3! |
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crowslayer91 said: either way. for media purposes? sex is worse I disagree. I think that being desensitised to violence is far worse than being desensitised to sex. +The fact that you can watch a movie that is PG-13 and see somebody blown to bits and bleeding their guts out, but show a boob and it's rated R (unless the director is James Cameron). THAT'S INSANE. Sex is something that everyone does or will do in their lifetime (excluding some circumstances). Blowing off someone's head with a glock is not, nor should it be. OranSolus said: Plus, you also have to factor in cultural difference. For example, contrary to popular belief, us Brits are a lot more liberal with regards to sex in the media. One example of this is the inclusion of the sex scenes in the game Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy in the US) over here but the removal of them in the USA. The respective classification boards treat sex and violence differently (US- ESRB, UK- BBFC) This cultural difference is mostly due to the difference in levels of religious belief (nowhere near as many regular church-goers here), but there are loads of other factors. This would affect how people might see this question. Note that we have far more violent crime in the US than in the UK. |
ScrumYummy said: Note that we have far more violent crime in the US than in the UK. Actually, that depends. There is far more gun crime in the US, that's a given, but proportionately there is a shocking level of knife crime and assaults in the UK (for such a small mass of land). |
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| Violence is much more damaging to the mind than sex, I think. How many violence related deaths are there in the US per year? How many Sex-related deaths (not involving violence)? I rest my case. |
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Nathan-the-Axe said: Violence is much more damaging to the mind than sex, I think. How many violence related deaths are there in the US per year? How many Sex-related deaths (not involving violence)? I rest my case. Wait, how would someone die from sex if violence isn't involved (barring freak accidents)? That is a bit of an unfair comparison. I guess that's the point (that you need violence for a majority of sex related deaths), but I think for a better comparison you should look at the motivation of the crime, as violence may only be the means to an end. I mean to say, for example, the person isn't being violent due to the influence of violent media, they are only being violent in order to commit a sexual offence due to the influence of sex in the media...I'm finding it hard to explain, but I hope everyone gets the gist of what I'm saying. |
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| I hate it when sex is demonized in the media. I also hate it when people make the assumption that nudity automatically equates with pornography. I really think it's a shame that in the US sex and nudity are so off limits, but that's what you get when a bunch of religious whackos are in charge. not to say I am opposed to violence in media, but as it is it's a bit twisted to allow violent movies pg-13 ratings and one titty gives an R rating, for example. I don't think nudity warrants an R rating, and I don't think violence necessarily does either. depends on the actual content. for the topic of sex vs violence, I think this quote is a great one: "I'd rather have my son watch a film with 2 people making love than 2 people trying to kill one another." |
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drac said: I hate it when sex is demonized in the media. I also hate it when people make the assumption that nudity automatically equates with pornography. I really think it's a shame that in the US sex and nudity are so off limits, but that's what you get when a bunch of religious whackos are in charge. not to say I am opposed to violence in media, but as it is it's a bit twisted to allow violent movies pg-13 ratings and one titty gives an R rating, for example. I don't think nudity warrants an R rating, and I don't think violence necessarily does either. depends on the actual content. for the topic of sex vs violence, I think this quote is a great one: "I'd rather have my son watch a film with 2 people making love than 2 people trying to kill one another." I agree totally, but I think the main culprit in terms of sex for this argument is media which creates a skewed image of sex for young people (such as presenting a person as an object of sexual desire or as a sex 'object' with no real substance otherwise). In terms of the act of lovemaking or the presentation of the human form, I see no problem at all. Sex and nudity is nothing to be ashamed of in itself. |
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drac said: I hate it when sex is demonized in the media. I also hate it when people make the assumption that nudity automatically equates with pornography. I really think it's a shame that in the US sex and nudity are so off limits, but that's what you get when a bunch of religious whackos are in charge. not to say I am opposed to violence in media, but as it is it's a bit twisted to allow violent movies pg-13 ratings and one titty gives an R rating, for example. I don't think nudity warrants an R rating, and I don't think violence necessarily does either. depends on the actual content. for the topic of sex vs violence, I think this quote is a great one: "I'd rather have my son watch a film with 2 people making love than 2 people trying to kill one another." Drac's word is law. |
drac said: I hate it when sex is demonized in the media. I also hate it when people make the assumption that nudity automatically equates with pornography. I really think it's a shame that in the US sex and nudity are so off limits, but that's what you get when a bunch of religious whackos are in charge. not to say I am opposed to violence in media, but as it is it's a bit twisted to allow violent movies pg-13 ratings and one titty gives an R rating, for example. I don't think nudity warrants an R rating, and I don't think violence necessarily does either. depends on the actual content. for the topic of sex vs violence, I think this quote is a great one: "I'd rather have my son watch a film with 2 people making love than 2 people trying to kill one another." This. |
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| What is more disturbing? Finding somebody with massive amounts of pornography on their computer, or finding somebody with massive amounts of violence/gory content? You know what is screwed up? If you got in a fight and broke some guys arm at school, you would probably get in a ton of trouble at home, but if your parents found out you had been having sex with somebody, you would get in boatloads more, and maybe get expelled from school, whereas in the fight situation, you probably wouldn't. Violence is obviously more harmful than sex, but sex is treated as if it is one of the worst things in the world, whereas if you ask anybody who has had sex before they (usually) will tell you that it is one of the best. Why if you murder somebody you can go to jail for 20+ years and get out, but if you are a rapist (who didn't kill the victims) you easy, EASY get life. Last time I checked I would rather be raped than killed. Note: I have nothing really against violent movies, I am just making a point. The US shouldn't be as uptight about sex as they are. It is borderline ridiculous. You can get arrested for talking about sex with a minor on the Internet if you are an adult, but how about if you talked about acts of gruesome violence? Not a crime. What the fuck? |
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| Rapists don't get life, at least not in the UK. They get a base rate of 5 years which is then added to or taken from using mitigating and aggravating circumstances. Examples of aggravating circumstances:, torture or excessive force used. Examples of mitigating circumstances: guilty plea, involuntary intoxication. This is known as the tariff system. Anyone actually know the facts about sentencing in the US? I do believe that violence is worse (seeing as we're not just talking about the effect of media on children), but it is how sex or violence is presented that causes the problems, not just the general overview of the two. I'm glad I live in a country that's much more liberal in regards to sex, although that has downsides as well... |
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everq said: capocani said: Sex is not an issue! That coined phrase “sex & violence” that so-called unholy union is nothing but a conservative-housewife-daytime talk show-propaganda that people with nothing better to do try and push their backwards wrong beliefs on the rest of society “sex” shouldn't be paired with the actual act of physically harming someone if a kid gets a glimpse of nudity on TV or an eyeful in certain magazines that is not an issues he'll have to see boobs eventually I can't believe i have to say it again but “boobs are not the enemy” they are soft and squishy and true happiness resides within them, may god bless them all! And if you're weak enough to get offended by the sexual content in the media or develop and unhealthy obsessions with them you're the one with the problem as humanity faces much graver ordeals like famine and genocide or alien invasion. that is beautiful! I second that lol, sex isn't necessarily a bad thing IMO. |
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| violence or sex.... hard to choose, they're both so entertaining.... |
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| Neither. Sex and Violence are both natural parts of life. There is not an animal on the planet, humans included, that does not naturally partake in one form or another of both activities. To portray either as inherently despicable or wrong in any kind of fashion is both fallacious and idiotic. The real problems in this instance are these- People who for some reason are unable to process the fact that human beings are not born with clothes, and their bodies are not horrific monsters from the depths of hell that are clothed for the purposes of keeping the demons at bay. Clothes original intention had far more to do with protection and warmth than with the later established second use of sexual control. People who for some reason do not realize that they can change the channel, and have the ability to make a conscious decision about the shows they watch day to day. There are plenty of opportunities to buy box sets or order network channels that will only display fictitious wholesome worlds for those who wish to view them. There are numerous programs created and dedicated to the sole purpose of helping people censor every aspect of their television and web experience. People bad at logic and math. Eastern Asian (notably Japan), and most European countries are very progressive in terms of the amount of nudity and violence shown on television. Specifically looking at Japan- where hentai and violent depictions in media abound (some of their game shows revolve around contestants being physically hurt for incorrect answers), it consistently boasts some of the lowest crime rates in the world. 90% of the crimes that do happen in Japan are larceny, a passive though dangerous crime. Repeat, a non sexual, non physically violent crime. The countries listed below Japan are mostly European. While the US and the UK, who's cultures despite producing sexual and violent films and television shows, try desperately to sensor, to promote abstinence, and create good little god fearing citizens, are always in the top 10. Parents who are morons. Yes, morons. If they are physically incapable of monitoring what their child is viewing, and/or teaching their children how to deal with the information that they are allowing the child to take in, then they have no business whatsoever being a parent. They have absolutely no one to blame but themselves. The only acceptable excuse for them in being appalled by sex, is the fact that they were too stupid to wear a condom and ended up saddled with a responsibility that they clearly cannot handle. I suppose it is also natural, however, that people lay the blame on anyone but themselves. Taking the path of least resistance is a pretty common occurrence, and it shouldn't be terribly surprising that most people are too f-ing lazy to take responsibility for themselves. Instead, the media gets blamed or some other person or group. I'm personally sick of hearing it, but I can see how it happens. Bottom line, however, is that if you can't control yourself enough to turn on something you feel more comfortable watching. If you cant accept that some people are capable of watching sexual or violent content and still use their brain to act rationally in their every day lives. If you can't take the time to teach your children how to be decent human beings... then seriously... you have much bigger problems then the media. /rant |
| I saw a servey somewhere where parents would rather take their kids to a violent movie than one that had constant cussing. Anyway, both sex and violence are things everybody does; But we get into violence much eariler in our lives, even if it's just mindless wrestling between siblings or four year olds on a playground. Neither sex nor violence is bad. It's just that they are taken too far sometimes. |
| I mean, sex is pretty much natural we all have raging hormones.... Violence on the other hand coming from a family that wouldn't even let me have water guns but instead dolphins shooting water out of their mouths, I find violence is useless. |
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| In America, sex is a bigger issue. Violence is accepted-, neigh, celebrated in our culture. And yet we shy away from anything sexual. Although I don't think the two should have to be associated in the first place. |
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| My country (Croatia, that's in Europe) is very open towards violence and sex on television. I'm not really a TV watcher but all the channels here play movies from the 80s and 90 and there's always sex and violence but noone really discusses about it on talk shows and I don't remember anyone mentioning on the news that someone has raped/killed and was influenced by TV. Those things just don't happen here. People here kill for other reasons and suicides are caused mostly by war related traumas and rapes don't happen here alot because most girls here especially around my age are sluts. Lots of fucking going around = no raping going around I would mostly likely end up in a mental institute in USA if an adult finds out what things I watch and read on daily basis here but I don't really feel any urge to kill or rape someone I just enjoy reading/watching those UNHOLY THINGS. I would rant further but I belive Shizuru said everything I wanted to say. |
| Random: I am friggin amazed at the US film industry's rating system, not just in terms of how they rate movies almost arbitarily but how cinemas are operated. You can take a child to the goriest film around and no one will bat an eyelid because they're with an adult. I'm actually seeing it more in the UK now (this country loves to copy the US at everything, gun crime seems to be the latest fad these days) when a kid who looked barely 10 went to see The Dark Knight with his parents. Okdokey, I hope Heath gave him a memorable time at the cinema. I've yet to see This Film Is Not Yet Rated but it looks interesting indeedy. |
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| Sex or violence aren't too bad on tv, the worst thing you could have is censorship... I saw highlander when i was about 10 and nudity just a bit later and i never killed or raped anyone. Nothing wrong with that, maybe you should regulate it a bit when children could be watching. But later at night when they should be in bed and we're all (sort of) adults everything should be ok |
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| how is this even an issue? violence is worse than sex obviously. and i'm going not by terms of TV or media or anything, but by REAL LIFE. you know - that thing that doesn't involve your computer. and if its rape then its on the same ground as violence... *nods* EDIT: i really don't know where all you people are getting that americans shy away from sex or whatever... unless you all hang out with people who go to church. the top story on the news isn't: "oh this person had sex" (unless you live in florida, are a teacher, and like your students)... it's usually "oh this person was stabbed and died". |
ReverseHarem said: how is this even an issue? violence is worse than sex obviously. and i'm going not by terms of TV or media or anything, but by REAL LIFE. you know - that thing that doesn't involve your computer. and if its rape then its on the same ground as violence... *nods* Yeah, but that's what I was trying to get into on the other page, both sex and violence are used in a positive and negative ways, as much as people will try to ignore it in violence's case. I dont condone violence at all, but that doesnt stop the fact that most of the time we're only alive or running as a society because of violence. Whether its cops v bad guys, or soldiers v dictatorships, etc. Go ask a random person in the Congo what they think of sex. They'll automatically equate it with violence. It's a weapon of war out there, more effective than bullets. You cant just say "Oh, when we're talking about sex we dont mean rape" as thats a bit of a copout. So that's why I dont see the debate as just 'what's worse'. The media angle, I think we're all more or less agreeing on though, one is usually disproportionate to the other to a ridiculous degree. |
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ReverseHarem said: Well thats mainly because of mainstream Amarican movies and series. They have way less nudity and sex then movies and series from other countries. And when American movies do have sex its mostly pretty far from the real situation.EDIT: i really don't know where all you people are getting that americans shy away from sex or whatever... unless you all hang out with people who go to church. Oh and i followed up on the thread so i thought that the first poster asked about the image you get on tv and other media. Violence is off course way more worse then sex except when it involves rape, but i guess you could label that more under violence then sex. |
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Cihan said: Go ask a random person in the Congo what they think of sex. They'll automatically equate it with violence. It's a weapon of war out there, more effective than bullets. You cant just say "Oh, when we're talking about sex we dont mean rape" as thats a bit of a copout. Like what Lofoc said above, I would categorize rape more under violence than sex. Of course someone in the Congo, Sudan, Uganda, and places where rape is used as a type of psychological/violence during wars and genocides they'll have a different connotation than what we do. There's no way we can see it from their perspective unless we actually live it. So it isn't really a copout at all. In other news: I tend not to pay attention to the media because they will glorify anything that will get them ratings. Lofoc said: Well thats mainly because of mainstream Amarican movies and series. They have way less nudity and sex then movies and series from other countries. And when American movies do have sex its mostly pretty far from the real situation. That's because our country is chock-full of Republicans. |
capocani said: I have to say that is an utterly ridiculous claim! “society runs on violence” It does not work that way here and I hope for your sake that it's not how it works wherever you live, of course violence is an unfortunate and unavoidable byproduct of organized society and it takes more of a major role within underdeveloped and poor nations but its not what makes society tick it's not cops vs criminals that's just part of it and it's certainly not “soldiers v dictatorships” if anything it's soldiers hand in hand with dictatorships it's usually civilian v dictatorships and Gandhi did it peacefully :) Do you really believe a society runs without controlled violence capocani? Seems like a naive outlook to me. I actually think it's insulting to suggest violence is only a major role in poor nations. Our so-called 'first world' nations just dress it up better. The founding of a country involves violence. Defending the freedom/independence of that country involves violence. Furthering the country's posterity/economy involves violence. Fighting for new rights involves violence. Policing involves violence. Providing food, clothing, petrol, and nearly every product in your house involves violence. Violence and sex are all around us, and both are used and abused in many ways. Of course looking at the acts of themselves, sex is the more appealing than violence. One is at its core about new life and the other about destroying it, but my point in this thread is that either can be, and is, worse than the other. I just didnt want 'sex' to be easily brushed off as something that is always good and lovely, because its negative usage is just as powerful as physical violence, and its never more evident to me these days due to rampant and irresponsible use of sex in media, as well as lack of parenting, among other reasons, more and more kids in 'first world' nations are giving birth to other kids and society's increasingly tolerant attitude to sexed up kids continues unabated, to the point where the school uniform is now completely fetishised. |
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capocani said: I didn't say that violence take on a major role just in poor nation I said that it take more of a major role there, *head explodes* and yes violence is used to aid in policing a healthy society but as a last resort Well here's where I'm disagreeing with you, and I wont repeat what I said in my previous post, but I think its not a last resort, but the first resort. as for the case of violence being involved in providing society with it's necessities such as “food, clothing, petrol” sadly that might be trues in some situation but it's against UN law and I'd like to think that it's getting the proper attention and getting under control. We hack animals apart for food (and sometimes not even for that), big brand clothes are made in sweat shops overseas where employees are beaten for fun, and do we really need to go into the world's thirst for petrol these days? Violence is fuelling our society, you cant deny it. It's essential for the kind of world we live in. Yes thats bleak, but that's life in the 21st century. and I also have to disagree with you in the claim that sex and violence are on equal terms, they are both primitive human impulses and they are both used and abused but one of them if far more destructive than the other, to actually compare the act of physical harm to the act of making love is ridiculous, stopping violence is what we all should be striving for but sex should never be stopped, not in free society, sex doesn't do any harm at all – not at all! I'm not comparing the acts, but the potential. Both can be as destructive as the other, sex can cause just as much suffering. People cheating on another, doing it too young, doing it to the young, doing it too much, incest, etc. Families can be ripped apart, all kinds of suffering can come about from the act of sex. My point is that violence and sex used irresponsibly both have the same potential for destruction. I'm only opposed to violence in the real world I actually enjoy watching fictional people beating each other! Me too. :) |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
| for me sex = love violence = ...well, violence so I'll have to say violence on this one. =P |
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| Violence is worse than sex. People are desensitized to them both though. |
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| Cihan said: My point is that violence and sex used irresponsibly both have the same potential for destruction. That is completely false. Even if you include sex acts that are themselves also violent acts such as rape, it's not as destructive as murder. And in general, you can't consider violent sexual acts a problem of sex. Sure, problems can arise as a result of sex, but these are largely a result of social stigmas surrounding sex. STIs and teen pregnancy wouldn't be as severe problems if we provided better sexual education to young people. I'd love to live in a society free of violence, I'd kill the bastard who tried to get rid of sex. |
jorgzimmer said: Cihan said: My point is that violence and sex used irresponsibly both have the same potential for destruction. That is completely false. Well I think the child who grows up to find out they were the product of a consensual swingers gangbang would disagree, but anyway... Sure, problems can arise as a result of sex, but these are largely a result of social stigmas surrounding sex. STIs and teen pregnancy wouldn't be as severe problems if we provided better sexual education to young people. And young people wouldnt kill so much if they were provided with better education too, maybe? We're not discussing solutions to problems though, just the potential of the acts. I'd love to live in a society free of violence, I'd kill the bastard who tried to get rid of sex. lol, true. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
| Interesting question. I'm not sure, although I do know in both cases it is better to give than to receive. |
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Iri said: Interesting question. I'm not sure, although I do know in both cases it is better to give than to receive. Hahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahah |
| I'm not expressing an opinion in this because it is an endless debate that I don't want to get involved in, but I will say this. The other day, I was walking through the grocery store and two mothers were talking, one of them said that they would rather their child see people getting sliced in half with tons of blood and guts than them seeing one boob. Anybody see anything wrong with this? |
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