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| Quoted from Shadowmage from Behind the Nihon Review, "One of these days I’m going to get on Final Cut Pro and split Black Rock Shooter into two separate shows. One will be a melodrama about two school girls becoming best friends. The other will be a series of anime style video game cut scenes. Neither will be particularly good but both will be far superior to what Black Rock Shooter is now. For some inexplicable reason, the anime tries to build a meaningful drama from unremarkable characters set in a generic plot with the “interesting” hook being that their internal emotions are somehow personified with fight scenes amongst their alter egos. The problem is that the core drama itself feels so rushed and so forced that the fight scenes fail to feel meaningful and just come across as confusing." http://behind-the.nihonreview.com/20120222/winter-2012-mid-season-impressions/ He describes perfectly what I feel. |
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Omniknight said: He describes perfectly what I feel. I agree with it feeling rushed, but that can be blamed on the shorter running time than even most 1-cour anime. 8 Episodes is simply not enough to tell a good story - but at the same time - it could have been so much worse. I wish they made it into a 25-episode series with more adult characters and a darker plot/drama behind it. Here's hoping for that! |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| Pure crap. Nothing new. |
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BRShooter00 said: Cloudenvy said: I hope they'll do something great with the BRS universe they've thought up someday. I feel like they have a great concept to work with but they fail the execution of it completely. There's really only so much you can do with a Vocaloid song. What? they've done a lot with it. Now if they can just do decent drama, pacing and such then they have a hit on their hands. The execution is the problem, not the concept. |
| I'm not sure who I hate more. Kagari or Saya......I think it's a draw. |
| OMG The girl drama in this show is so good! It's top stuff along with Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, Ga Rei Zero, and Manabi Straight. I love it so much! I hope Mato is alright because she's so cool! All the other girls are cool too, except Yomi as she could use some cheering up for sure. Well looks like it may be too late for her now. BRS TV shrunked down to 8 episodes really sucks. Wanted it to be longer too. Oh well, but if it ends right with me it'll be 9++/10 which looks like a likely possibility. |
| So I'm still wondering, is Kagari still insane? Or is she just a dick? lol |
| Oh I'm a bastard. I laughed when Mato said Yomi and then saw that she was near-death. |
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Hoshi_Akari said: Am I the only one who thinks that Yuu purposely send Mato to the other world when Black Rock Shooter killed Dead Master, all this to awake insane Black Rock Shooter so she could fight with Black Gold Saw? I think so primarly because Yuu apologized to both Mato and Black Rock Shooter in the end of the episode, like she knew this was going to happen. Nope, you right. Also, Yuu = Strenght |
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| Insane Black Rock Shooter is what made this episode for me. |
| Flipping brutal!! I don't enjoy this at all!D: |
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Omniknight said: 'Cept for the fact that the source of the fights in the other world is the drama.Quoted from Shadowmage from Behind the Nihon Review, "One of these days I’m going to get on Final Cut Pro and split Black Rock Shooter into two separate shows. One will be a melodrama about two school girls becoming best friends. The other will be a series of anime style video game cut scenes. Neither will be particularly good but both will be far superior to what Black Rock Shooter is now. For some inexplicable reason, the anime tries to build a meaningful drama from unremarkable characters set in a generic plot with the “interesting” hook being that their internal emotions are somehow personified with fight scenes amongst their alter egos. The problem is that the core drama itself feels so rushed and so forced that the fight scenes fail to feel meaningful and just come across as confusing." http://behind-the.nihonreview.com/20120222/winter-2012-mid-season-impressions/ He describes perfectly what I feel. Like I said, the problem is that it's too short. It's trying to squish too much drama in too short a time without leaving space for breathing room in between. The drama wouldn't feel that forced if there were some developments and down time to spread it all out. |
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| I still think this show isn't yuri and that wasn't a Mato x Yuu kiss. ...Just because. XD |
| INSANE BLACK ROCK SHOOTER is just too awesome !! |
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Kurogashi said: ^ Do you think wBRS will appear here? I know nothing about the BRS franchise - just did a tiny bit of wiki-ing though. wow, i wasn't into too much of this franchise, there are a lot of characters there to look into, this catched my eye, maybe when iBRS calm down could be able to transform into it to defeat Gold Saw. BRSxIgnition said: dashiawia said: This episode really confused me. I still don't understand what Saya intends to do by messing with the students' heads. And who exactly is Black Rock Shooter? Is she supposed to be Mato's other self? 3/5 for this episode. Saya intends to use the other worlds to rid people of their worries - by making them horrible, then killing them completely with the other world. She enjoys it. Black Rock Shooter is Mato's 'Other Self', and Mato was linked to her fully by Yuu/STR in the last bit of the episode. But why she make other's world entities fight instead of killing them by herself through Gold Saw ? O01eg said: andreyue said: I just looked at previous episode 4, and Yuu never really had a shadow o.o When did you see it? I've just watched that Koha didn't react for Yuu at 4:47. just skimmed the previous episodes and always yuu appears inside shadows (so no shadow would be proyected) and the only part when should have casted a shadow it doesn't appear (episode 4):  |
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Hoshi_Akari said: PaninaManina said: Nope, you right. Also, Yuu = Strenght Yes, I know that. The end of the OVA made it pretty clear. ^^ It looks like Strenght is trying to clean the mess of Black Gold Saw using Black Rock Shooter. No, its the contrary. Strenght is working for Gold Saw from the beginning. She just don't share her motives and also, after all this time as Mato's friend her conscience is in crisis. I predict that Strength will switch sides in the final battle. And, anyone see this, that Mato/Shooter will die? That book kept talking about that bird that went taking a lot of colors and they were mixing up until his wings get black. When this happened, the bird died. I am the only one who sees the bird as Mato? |
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xumi said: just skimmed the previous episodes and always yuu appears inside shadows (so no shadow would be proyected) and the only part when should have casted a shadow it doesn't appear (episode 4): What really intrigues me. Throughout the whole life of Mato, nobody ever noticed her talking and doing tantrum alone? She had no friends? So sad... |
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| Oh, wow, that was a great ep. So much going on, I don't really get any of it, but I can't wait for next week. I love how the two worlds are tying together, and it's just one thing after the other... I really think this episode hints (at least) that Mato's the Tiny Bird, not Yomi. I always thought so, but this ep makes me think it's true. |
| This episode was great! The only thing I didn't got was why everybody forgot about Yuu? |
| oh hell yes, loved this episode, best yet! of course i love the entire series and all of the characters. but black rock shooter all the way! so what's going on...why does nobody remember yuu?? am i missing something..? but its cool that yuu can control her self in the other world, i wonder how and when it started. anyways can't wait for next ep! |
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| So BRS is now going berserk? am I sensing Evangelion vibe here? |
| And now Mato broke too? Please go for a bad ending and it would actually redeem some of the horrible aspects of this show. The bird died? That's a very depressing story for such a book though... The slap was awesome. 4/5. |
| This show could have been SOO much better but instead it's all psychotic and awkward... |
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Solkiskey said: That was OK. 3/5 Basically my rating/review for the whole show so far .-. |
| It's finally getting really interesting now the real world is really starting to change.Yu explained a lot of it to Mato, so it's finally making more sense now. Now that BRS killed her in the other world, does that mean Yomi will forget all about Mato in the real world? |
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MilyGardianChara said: Yomi's mum is probably the worst mum in anime I've ever seen! Letting Yomi get bullied by Kagari for years of her life then telling her friends to go home? Mean, just mean. And what's with the red on Black rock shooter's eye? Is she evil now? Gaaah I can't wait until next week! Lets just say she's gone "insane" |
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Onyxthegreat said: It's finally getting really interesting now the real world is really starting to change.Yu explained a lot of it to Mato, so it's finally making more sense now. Now that BRS killed her in the other world, does that mean Yomi will forget all about Mato in the real world? I hope not. O_O I was just hoping Yomi would forgive Mato or something. |
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BRSxIgnition said: CrimsonLight said: Damn, I wasn't so sure about the first 2~3 episodes but this and episode 4 have hooked me. However, I'm not sure I'm following the storyline anymore. Too much going on. SPOILERS UP TO CHAPTER 5 BELOW Saya pretty much has a twisted operation going on. She uses her manipulation (see: "Counselling") and 'coffee' to scare these girls into developing huge mental issues (See: Yomi) By doing this, she is able to link them to the bodies she 'grows' in the dark world as Black Gold Saw. Black Rock Shooter is able to 'free' these people from their sorrows and grievances in the real world by killing their other-self in the Dark World. When a 'other self' dies, all memories of the person's issues vanish, including the cause, the reaction, and any details. This happened with Kagami/Chariot. Black Rock Shooter (Mato) is slowly being destroyed mentally by Saya's Manipulation, and physically by the other girls in the Dark World. Strength/Yuu seems to have the same link Black Gold Saw/Saya has between the two worlds. This will likely be explained more within the next few episodes. They know about each world, and they can control 'themselves' in both worlds. STR/Yuu sides with BRS/Mato, by trying to help her solve their problems without the use of killing Dead Master. Dead Master/Yomi essentially sides with Black Gold Saw/Saya unwillingly, by giving into Saya's Manipulation. The only thing that's really left unexplained at this point, is that we don't know how Saya and Yuu have control over their other selves in the Dark World. It's quite possible that they've simply had them long enough, and they've linked. It seems like Mato is going to link with BRS, but I can't wait to see how, seeing as how Black Rock Shooter has essentially lost her mind and gone.. well, Insane. I've always wondered how iBRS fit into the universe, and - while this is entirely my own hypothesis - I believe that iBRS appears when Mato is in an extremely depressed/psychotic state when linked with BRS. Either way, I can't way - the cracked star at the end is a nice little nod at iBRS' character symbol, where: BRS = Clean ★ iBRS = Cracked ★ Dead Master = Skull Black Gold Saw = Horned Crown/Helmet Stength = Cubed Fist nice summary :o |
PaninaManina said: And, anyone see this, that Mato/Shooter will die? That book kept talking about that bird that went taking a lot of colors and they were mixing up until his wings get black. When this happened, the bird died. I am the only one who sees the bird as Mato? Nope, that's what I immediately thought after seeing that part. >.< |
| Finally an episode in this anime I can call interesting. It's sad that it happened only 3 more episodes till the end. IMO the anime should have started with this, it would have been epic. Very good episode overall, I finally rated this 5/5 without lowering ladder too much. However, what worries me, is that BRS should have been dead about 10 times already (at least 5 only in the first 2 episodes). Other "others" get hit once or their head chopped and they die. BRS could be torn to pieces (or mashed) and nothing happens? That's too much of a plot devce to ignore. Also, about the whole Yuu thing, I think that maybe the real Yuu died or something happened to her and Strength took her place in the real world. I mean, if one's "other" dies in the other world their memory of their suffering is erased. Maybe if something happens to the real person, their "other" can replace them temporarily, creating fake memories (Matou found t hard to recall Yuu) but after some time those memories disappear. It would explain why STR hasn't appeared in the other world until everyone forgot about Yuu (when she possibly came back). I think Strength (aka Yuu) started out working for Saya/BGS because she kind of brought Matou to Saya's office and possibly more people. Her job was something like helping BGS to get rid of BRS but she became too close to Matou and decided to change sides. Maybe that's why she disappeared from evryone's memories and (in a way) from the realworld, to hide from Saya because she wanted to side with Matou. That explains why she came to Saya nearly angry but she couldn't tell her everything on her mind because BGS could hold some power over her (maybe she has her real self, or she simply brainwashed her and Yuu got confused). But it's also possible, that STR had no real self (although she would be first) and thus can go from one world to another anytime, altering everyone's memories as she pleases (or maybe that was the work of Saya). So or so, it is clear that Yuu and Saya are the only ones aware of the other world from the vey end. Now, that Matou is on the scene and BRS went nuts it can get very intense, unless we get some crappy directing like the crazy kids' drama. |
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| Now I've caught up so I'll have to wait until the next episode. Crap. The only thing that confused me was Yuu, but I guess we'll find out why no one can see her in one of the next episodes so I'm not complaining. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
Watchapol said: I still think BGS is Kurisutina. LOL! I saw someone mention this exact thing over on animesuki XD It's this picture that really stands out, doesn't it? |
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| Wow, definitely the best episode so far! A lot happened in both the real and alternate worlds. Black Rock Shooter broke a little there too =S can't wait to see the next episode!!! >.<'' |
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| Oh shit! Actual connections to the otherworld?! Those battles were stunning as always. Questions about Yuu's existence and the creepy councilor outright strangling Mato. (Rushed plot etc etc) Much better than last week's effort. Consider me mindfucked. |
| I must admit I'm confused by the script. It seemed like a good episode though. |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| Big step in progressing! |
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| Yomi has some serious issues... |
| wha da faq? |
NeowuMar 7, 2012 3:50 PM
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| ^ Collective theories from many members in past threads, including his own. And, probably, http://blackrockshooter.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Rock_Shooter_Wiki |
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| ^ I just started rush watching this series,and it Seems like a Look a lot of study could be done their . sigh... remind me of that Horizon Anime.I read most of the fact from that website as well . |
| LOL! Yeah, it's much easier to be a fan before anything really takes off, because then you can just go along with it. |
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