| I have been in MAL and also broadly in the anime fandom for uh, quite some now. And I have had the experience that BL or yaoi anime has been slowly but surely getting less problematic, and more consensual. What do you think about this trend, do you have any modern BL you like, your thoughts? I'd also like to ping my gay friend, who is reportedly very gay, @Duado, to chip in on this issue. (he has requested to be mentioned, plz no ban) |
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| I don't really keep up with BL works very often because i'm not gay, i'm very straight, but admittedly they did improve a lot over the last few five years. |
| I don't have enough information on current BL. I have not watched Given or Sasaki & Miyano (something about it annoyed me) I typically don't like most BL anime and enjoy ones that are BL-adjacent like Ensemble Stars, Kawagoe boys Sing and Touken Ranbu that I just finished recently (and even Free!)... they are full of fluffy moments and cute anime boys without the aggressive encounters, weird kissing (I hate this) or assault. I watched a chiname BL called Ling Qi and it didn't have any of those problems, but it wasn't much good either. |
SuperAdventureOct 12, 4:25 PM
| No, you should read instead of watching, no anime can describe all the feelings that you have when reading BL works. |
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| I only know that I want more like Yuri On Ice. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| "Has BL animanga been getting better?" There have always been good and bad works in many different senses, the only difference I noticed is that we are having a lot of BL without a focus on romance or with little focus on romance. |
| nope, MAL has been attracting more and more over-hypying tourists with the lockdowns. simple as that. |
| :v |
| No clue, I've only seen 4 in total, of which 2 are from the 20s |
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| Maybe a little. Given is a well praised BL but it still contains sexual assault between two characters that later end up together. Tasogare Out Focus is yet another recent BL where relationship starts with sexual assault. |
| As long as BL doesn't feature harems, it's fine! I want to know your gay friend :P |
"The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality"  |
Memore said: No, you should read instead of watching, no anime can describe all the feelings that you have when reading BL works. I read too, though admittedly not as much as you, haha. Any particular ones you could rec me? I like Ao no Flag a lot like you (though that's not really one)! Maou_heika said: Given is a well praised BL but it still contains sexual assault between two characters that later end up together. Surely, it is preferable to the earlier ones where it is not even depicted in a bad light! Given's SA scene (I don't think they actually go through with it, thankfully), while happening was painted as very uncomfortable/wrong, and afterwards introduced a serious conflict and had a lot of weight to it. Japan has a way to go but I think these are steps in the right direction Duado said: As long as BL doesn't feature harems, it's fine! True and factual 😤 Also I want to know your gay friend :P A certified  moment, lol |
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Memore said:
No, you should read instead of watching, no anime can describe all the feelings that you have when reading BL works.
No, you should read instead of watching, no anime can describe all the feelings that you have when reading BL works.
I read too, though admittedly not as much as you, haha. Any particular ones you could rec me? I like Ao no Flag a lot like you (though that's not really one)!
Maou_heika said:
Given is a well praised BL but it still contains sexual assault between two characters that later end up together.
Given is a well praised BL but it still contains sexual assault between two characters that later end up together.
Surely, it is preferable to the earlier ones where it is not even depicted in a bad light! Given's SA scene (I don't think they actually go through with it, thankfully), while happening was painted as very uncomfortable/wrong, and afterwards introduced a serious conflict and had a lot of weight to it.
Japan has a way to go but I think these are steps in the right direction
Duado said:
As long as BL doesn't feature harems, it's fine!
As long as BL doesn't feature harems, it's fine!
True and factual 😤
Also
I want to know your gay friend :P
A certified
moment, lol
| @Auron, Under the Green Lighf, Beware the Idesof March. |
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TL;DR - There's no question that BL has been strongly trending toward more healthy relationships for a while. The old BL trope of dubious consent somehow being considered hot and romantic is really starting to fade away, and I couldn't be more thrilled with that. This doesn't mean that modern BL relationships are all perfect and drama-free, or that no one ever makes a mistake, but couples who actually support and love each other and work through their issues together, like normal flawed people, are quickly becoming the norm. |
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| Yeah it has. I feel it's mostly cause of what audiences want to see and what writers want to make. Older yaoi was rapey etc for the taboo aspects as homosexuality was a taboo in of itself I like older stuff as it can be spicier but overall prefer newer more grounded works that show BL in a wholesome way as that's how the gays are. As example I point to all the times I mention my partner, as we are very gay and I am very wholesome about him imo |
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Auron said: I still don't want to see victim ending up with the perpetrator which always happens in BL, Given is no exception. I've watched the movie long ago and don't remember the details but the redemption didn't stand out much.Surely, it is preferable to the earlier ones where it is not even depicted in a bad light! Given's SA scene (I don't think they actually go through with it, thankfully), while happening was painted as very uncomfortable/wrong, and afterwards introduced a serious conflict and had a lot of weight to it. Japan has a way to go but I think these are steps in the right direction palm-tree said: Was that scene even necessary in the first place? And the guy was sick enough to hallucinate the MC to be his bf but still had enough strength to pin another guy down in bed and lick him? And they skipped past any romantic development and gave more focus to sex. The anime was literally horny boys doing horny things.Tasogare Out Focus is a great example of this. When a character genuinely mistakes his roommate for his boyfriend while delirious with fever, and briefly gets a little too physical before snapping out of it, there's an immediate sincere apology, an offer to move out of the room the two characters share, and a heart-to-heart conversation follows. Even though no part of this character's actions were intentional, it's still treated seriously, and portrayed as something that was uncomfortable for both characters. A year of close friendship follows before they even start dating for a completely unrelated reason palm-tree said: Not true, fujos have learnt to twist facts and portray dubious stuff as healthy relationships and then casually call others homophobic for not agreeing with them. Happened with me just a few days back.The old BL trope of dubious consent somehow being considered hot and romantic is really starting to fade away, and I couldn't be more thrilled with that. |
| It's like 50/50 today- we are soon getting Ganbare!Nakamura-kun which is wholesome and fun and none of the bad BL tropes. But we're also getting Shota Oni which is probably going to cause World War three |
| Its always been good 🙄 I'm the very wholesome bl are super boring and the more raunchy ones are entertaining, people read or watch ONE that has non con and they over react, its easy to tell what something is about just by lookikg at the cover 🙄 |
| Unrelated but what's the character from your forum profile picture, it's so cute ! |
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