| "The fall of the Western Roman Empire, also called the fall of the Roman Empire or the fall of Rome, was the loss of central political control in the Western Roman Empire, a process in which the Empire failed to enforce its rule, and its vast territory was divided among several successor polities." Rome didn't "fall" after a barbarian invasion. In fact the city continued existing without much change, it just stopped being "meaningful". I feel that something similar is happening with the anime community (And that might explain why so many people are talking about "tourists"): The anime community used to be more "centralized", in part because it required people to be like that. You had to either be at the same clubs to have access to anime, or in the same forums/blogs/channels to be into it when the internet arrived. "Anime" was like a physical place where you had to reallocate yourself to, so it was easy to have a more unified culture. This isn't the case anymore, as discussed here: Social media algorithms made so "it comes for you, no movement needed", so "the anime community" stopped being a place and became a term to refer to "the set of 'appendixes' in existing communities that talk about anime": The sub-group of the K-POP community that watches anime, the sub-group of the gaming community that watches anime, of the queer community, of the culture war community, etc (Kinda like "Kurdistan" is a nation in which each country has a part of). Considering that the trend is continuing that way, anime is set to become like the (fall of the) Roman Empire. Do you agree with that? Do you feel it's a good/bad think? Do you believe another thing causes it? Do you think it could/should be averted? |
| No, the anime community is not like like the Roman Empire. |
| I doubt the global anime community ever had a unified culture to begin with. |
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Zarutaku said: I doubt the global anime community ever had a unified culture to begin with. Because it really never had in the 1st place. But people reading shit online will believe anything as long as they think it's believable. lol |
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| Gosh, you always come up with the weirdest comparisons… I mean, the anime community is really just separate people watching stuff and discussing it online. How can you compare it to a governmental structure in the first place? It’s more like a network of literature circles bloated 100000x times, isn’t it? There’s no center to begin with… |
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| No, I don't think the so-called anime community is like the Roman Empire. I don't even think there's a solid, unified, universal anime "community" to begin with. Damn, I somehow feel that touching the subject of ancient empires will open Pandora's box and result in a slow, but visible influx of threads comparing the so-called anime community to various ancient empires. xD I hope I'll be proven wrong, though. |
| I disagree. Believing the anime community is in decline is a dystopian and elitist view, driven by the fact that anime and 'nerdy things' are becoming increasingly popular. As a result, those who 'aren't posers' feel attacked and see their passion becoming more trivial and commercial. Anime has finally gone mainstream. This mainstream attention ensures that more manga get adapted, more stories are created, and more workers get recognition for their artistic efforts. It's true that when a niche begins to explode, the 'average quality' drops; more 'trash' is produced to feed the masses. However, that 'trash' allows for the budgets needed to produce genuine quality—something that was much, much harder 20 or 30 years ago. Ghettoization has always existed in nerd communities: 'If you haven't watched this work, you're a poser,' or 'If you think this work is good/bad, you don't understand anything.' I think it used to be much more centralized, whereas now there is more freedom, but social media doesn't let you see it (everyone talks about the same anime and the same news). |
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| Anime is like the HRE. A bunch of smaller states (or factions/fanbases in this case) under a common supreme ruler (or common interest in this case). |
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| Anime community is too diverse to begin with, with so many different kinds of anime. It can't be compared to an empire. |
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| No? I'm pretty sure the "anime place" you speak of still exists, all these sub-groups you describe are that place. I'm also in the kpop community and let me tell you that all the people who also watch anime are also a part of the main ecosystem (for a lack of a better word) it's just that they have other interests as well and often times they merge them into one account. Also, if anime is still on the rise how can the community be, even metaphorically, like the Roman Empire? |
| I guess pay to play 원칙대로 Move Not with the trend Tired of the MACHO (MACHO  |
thewiru said: Rome lost like 9/10's of it's population through the decline of the West....that is a pretty big change. Rome didn't "fall" after a barbarian invasion. In fact the city continued existing without much change, it just stopped being "meaningful". thewiru said: Fans literally had to communicate, at their local video stores, conventions or their own websites, when the internet kicked in. If anything that sounds incredibly decentralized, compared to now, where you have millions upon millions of fans, using the same website. The anime community used to be more "centralized", in part because it required people to be like that. You had to either be at the same clubs to have access to anime, or in the same forums/blogs/channels to be into it when the internet arrived. If I had to make a bad historical analogy, since you seem intent on it, we are living in the Early Modern period, the beginning of mass globalism, and the past was like a form of decentralized feudalism, where the community had occasional contact with the outside world. thewiru said: One....Rome's fall is very complicated with many numerous factors such as inflation, political instability, climate change, demographic decline etc, so unless you can find how each of those factors has a similar "case" in the anime fandom, then no. I mean, even if you can.....this is dumb lol. Considering that the trend is continuing that way, anime is set to become like the (fall of the) Roman Empire. Do you agree with that? Do you feel it's a good/bad think? Do you believe another thing causes it? Do you think it could/should be averted? Plus I am kinda with Tolkien, on my opinion of the Roman Empire, so use that opinion and apply to anime, I guess. |
| Cleopatra is a movie about the rise of the Roman empire, filmed during the rise of the anime industry. Beyond that, I got nothing. |
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Cleopatra is a movie about the rise of the Roman empire, filmed during the rise of the anime industry. Beyond that, I got nothing.
| @Lucifrost Roma is in the first episode of Hetalia and a few more scenes too. Thermae Romae is about an architect from roma that isekai s to japan. I got only those I think. |
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| Western Europe is a better comparison, actually. |
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@Lucifrost Roma is in the first episode of Hetalia and a few more scenes too. Thermae Romae is about an architect from roma that isekai s to japan. I got only those I think.
| @Sasori56483 Are you suggesting that Hetalia is a sort of parallel to the anime community? Intriguing theory. |
| その目だれの目？ |
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Gosh, you always come up with the weirdest comparisons…
I mean, the anime community is really just separate people watching stuff and discussing it online. How can you compare it to a governmental structure in the first place? It’s more like a network of literature circles bloated 100000x times, isn’t it? There’s no center to begin with…
I mean, the anime community is really just separate people watching stuff and discussing it online. How can you compare it to a governmental structure in the first place? It’s more like a network of literature circles bloated 100000x times, isn’t it? There’s no center to begin with…
| @RudeRedis I assume he makes such threads solely out of boredom, without thinking much. And he managed to provoke some long replies, as we see here. |
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Gosh, you always come up with the weirdest comparisons…
I mean, the anime community is really just separate people watching stuff and discussing it online. How can you compare it to a governmental structure in the first place? It’s more like a network of literature circles bloated 100000x times, isn’t it? There’s no center to begin with…
I mean, the anime community is really just separate people watching stuff and discussing it online. How can you compare it to a governmental structure in the first place? It’s more like a network of literature circles bloated 100000x times, isn’t it? There’s no center to begin with…
| @RudeRedis I swear I don't comprehend how his brain works. Sometimes he does bring some really interesting points of discussion, but most of the time (and with that I mean like 90-95% of his forums) he is either asking for validation from the opinion of others or creating the most bizarre discussion topics that are either insane reaches (like this one) or just straight up weird (or dumb sometimes if I may add). |
| "Those words are meant for those that dare defy god's final warning... An epigraph of their stubbornness" - Maho Hiyajo (Steins;Gate 0)    |
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@RudeRedis I assume he makes such threads solely out of boredom, without thinking much. And he managed to provoke some long replies, as we see here.
| @mrBored0m ....I mean the bait is fun....I will give Wiru credit, he makes AD actually entertaining. I am always curious what his next thread is going to be. |
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@mrBored0m ....I mean the bait is fun....I will give Wiru credit, he makes AD actually entertaining. I am always curious what his next thread is going to be.
| @BilboBaggins365 yeah, I engage in threads here only because of boredom (and most of the time I have nothing interesting and thoughtful to say) and I like when people start shitposting. I need brainrot. I usually can't partake in discussions when smart and serious replies are required. |
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| Uh clearly the erotic appeal of underage girl characters is central to the Haruhi Suzumiya franchise. Objecting to this is the problem not noticing it |
| I love how you can just immediately tell it's a wiru thread based purely on how retarded the question in the title sounds. |
| That's the internet in general. People have fractured off to their own personally tailored isolated microniches never interacting with each other outside of that. |
| Does this have anything to do with do as the Romans do? |
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| The Anime community is as decadent as the Roman empire was. |
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