Hapiness is born through talking. (The real sin?)

Aug 2, 10:06 AM

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I firmly believe that the fact that everyone debates the "original sin" is what keeps this story alive with so many interpretations, and most of these opinions ultimately lead to a similar conclusion. So, with that in mind, I'd like to present my own theory. It might be a bit more "ambiguous" or "boring" than the others, but I like how it connects most of the dots.

In the discussions, I've seen many fascinating interpretations of what exactly this sin is:

All of these theories are valid, but I believe they are all symptoms of a single, deeper "Original Sin" that connects everything: the inability, or rather the omission, to communicate. The sin of not TALKING.

And after crying while writing this, it was funny how the chapter titles ("To You, in 2016" and "To You, in 2022") reminded me of the chapter titles from Attack on Titan lol.

What do you all think? Thanks for your time.

Aug 2, 10:12 AM

Zarutaku

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OziDB said:
The sin of not TALKING

Not talking can be a blessing.

Aug 2, 10:17 AM

Piromysl

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This is why this anime/manga is so great.
You may have multiple, various theories, noone of which contradict eachother and all of them can make sense. There is so much to unpack here, because author does not rub the narrative into our faces and leaves things up for interpretation.

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Aug 2, 10:47 AM

Uruichi

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Damn one of the best theories that I’ve seen in a while holy hell, very well written and laid out.

Aug 2, 11:47 AM

ElPausinMAL

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Yes! Completely agree. What a great show.

Aug 2, 11:48 AM

Fitzel

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Takopi's Original Sin, was trying to help. That was his mistake. That is the point of the series. In Germany we say "Das Gegenteil von gut ist gut gemeint" which means: When you're trying to help it's gonna hurt the people you are trying to help even more

Aug 2, 11:59 AM

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The original sin is helping

My Candies:

Aug 2, 12:00 PM

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Fitzel said:
Takopi's Original Sin, was trying to help. That was his mistake. That is the point of the series. In Germany we say "Das Gegenteil von gut ist gut gemeint" which means: When you're trying to help it's gonna hurt the people you are trying to help even more

Wow thats so in reverse ⏮️

Aug 2, 12:02 PM

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Actually “Not Understanding / talking” was the thing that frustrated me the most about Takopi. In the very first episode we as an audience can understand what is going on with Shizuka but Takopi doesn’t and he only wanted her to smile without giving her a reason, he is too naïve to understand the pain. That’s why I loved the ending. Yes, the world is still cruel, yes their parents are a mess but Marina and Shizuka understand each other. The conversation at the store shows exactly that.

Aug 2, 10:05 PM

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JoeChip

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Great job making a thread with the same subject when we already have one here https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2225992

Aug 2, 10:47 PM

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OziDB

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Great job making a thread with the same subject when we already have one here https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2225992

@JoeChip Not quite the same, actually.😮‍💨 But I hope you had a great time with it too while having some yummy bread. 🥐

Aug 2, 11:09 PM

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@JoeChip Not quite the same, actually.😮‍💨 But I hope you had a great time with it too while having some yummy bread. 🥐

@OziDB

Whatever you say, coping zoomer.

Aug 3, 12:42 AM

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@OziDB

Whatever you say, coping zoomer.

@JoeChip Wow, such a level of condescension! I'm flattered:)
Too bad you're not really into bread... but hey, it's not for everyone.

Have a lovely day, buddy :D

Aug 3, 12:51 AM

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Damn one of the best theories that I’ve seen in a while holy hell, very well written and laid out.

@Uruichi Really appreciate that.
Glad you enjoyed it!

Aug 3, 12:53 AM

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Yes! Completely agree. What a great show.

@ElPausinMAL Honestly, I got so excited I had to go back and read the manga starting from chapter 1 — and I felt the same emotions all over again.
I enjoyed it so much, and I truly think the adaptation adds a whole new layer to the story. :')

Aug 3, 1:08 AM

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@Fitzel Hello, both you and OziDD made very good points that I wholeheartedly agree with. I did not know about this German saying but it perfectly encapsulates a core theme of this show.

Aug 3, 10:23 AM

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Don't know why they translated it as "original sin", since the Japanese title translates "Tapoki in the present time". Then the meaning is pretty simple, its saying don't constantly keep going back trying to rewrite the past, it wouldn't work even if it was possible. The only chance to make bad things a little better is to live fully in the here and now, the present moment. That's a kind of Zen idea I believe the author was thinking of.

Aug 3, 7:39 PM

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@Fitzel Hello, both you and OziDD made very good points that I wholeheartedly agree with. I did not know about this German saying but it perfectly encapsulates a core theme of this show.

@montylaw More accurately, it says "the opposite of 'good' is 'well-intended'". In English there's a similar saying: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

Aug 3, 7:46 PM

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@Gavinmercer 原罪, not 現在. Japanese is full of homonyms (words that sound and/or are spelled the same but have different meanings). Takopii's 'Genzai' consists of 原 (original) and 罪 (guilt/sin/crime), whereas the more commonly used 'genzai' consists of 現 (current) and 在 (existing).

Aug 25, 5:25 AM

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cyruz said:
This is a test. Nothing to see here.

ok, I saw nothing.

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ok, I saw nothing.

@Zarutaku Really thought I was fast enough. Now find the other 5 posts. 😈

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best take. final take. i have no more tears though.

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