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Should I watch the OVA version of the show or the 13-episode TV version? I rewatched the original Gundam again to start fresh and eventually watch as many shows in the franchise as possible. At least all of UC to start. And what shows in general should I watch to move on to Zeta?
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RobertBobert said:
Should I watch the OVA version of the show or the 13-episode TV version? I rewatched the original Gundam again to start fresh and eventually watch as many shows in the franchise as possible. At least all of UC to start. And what shows in general should I watch to move on to Zeta?

There's almost no difference between the two. I recommend the OVA; it's more enjoyable to watch in the longer format.

To move on to Zeta, you don't have to watch the other series. Personally, I watched Zeta directly after the original and then watched the rest, but if you want more context, watch 0083 Stardust Memory [url=]https://myanimelist.net/anime/84/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam_0083__Stardust_Memory[/url] first.


Here is a list that groups together all the series in the UC universe chronologically. [url=]https://myanimelist.net/stacks/2504[/url]
Aug 1, 5:55 AM
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RobertBobert said:
Should I watch the OVA version of the show or the 13-episode TV version? I rewatched the original Gundam again to start fresh and eventually watch as many shows in the franchise as possible. At least all of UC to start. And what shows in general should I watch to move on to Zeta?

There's almost no difference between the two. I recommend the OVA; it's more enjoyable to watch in the longer format.

To move on to Zeta, you don't have to watch the other series. Personally, I watched Zeta directly after the original and then watched the rest, but if you want more context, watch 0083 Stardust Memory [url=]https://myanimelist.net/anime/84/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam_0083__Stardust_Memory[/url] first.


Here is a list that groups together all the series in the UC universe chronologically. [url=]https://myanimelist.net/stacks/2504[/url]
@WilliamMinerva20 What about Thunderbolt and War in the Pocket?
Aug 1, 6:16 AM
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RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 What about Thunderbolt and War in the Pocket?

You can watch either whenever you want after finishing the original MSG series.
Thunderbolt is set across a few years and begins during the One Year War. War in the Pocket is set 1 after the One Year War.
Both are definitely worth a watch.
Aug 1, 6:28 AM
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RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 What about Thunderbolt and War in the Pocket?

You can watch either whenever you want after finishing the original MSG series.
Thunderbolt is set across a few years and begins during the One Year War. War in the Pocket is set 1 after the One Year War.
Both are definitely worth a watch.
@Kool-Aid_Time So, these are good spin-offs, but they're not necessary before moving on to Zeta?
Aug 1, 6:29 AM
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RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 What about Thunderbolt and War in the Pocket?

They are both worth watching, you can watch them whenever you want cause they are side stories.
Aug 1, 6:41 AM
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@WilliamMinerva20 What about Thunderbolt and War in the Pocket?

They are both worth watching, you can watch them whenever you want cause they are side stories.
@WilliamMinerva20 I see, there are just more than 5 titles listed as spin-offs, so I don't know in what order and when to watch them.
Aug 1, 6:49 AM
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RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 I see, there are just more than 5 titles listed as spin-offs, so I don't know in what order and when to watch them.

If you are not in a rush watch them before zeta
My watching order was
Gundam Origin》 0079 Gundam Cucuruz island 》 0079 Gundam 08th team 》 0079 Thunderbolt 》 0080 War in pocket
Aug 1, 7:24 AM
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@WilliamMinerva20 I see, there are just more than 5 titles listed as spin-offs, so I don't know in what order and when to watch them.

If you are not in a rush watch them before zeta
My watching order was
Gundam Origin》 0079 Gundam Cucuruz island 》 0079 Gundam 08th team 》 0079 Thunderbolt 》 0080 War in pocket
@WilliamMinerva20 I'm not sure about the island, but since all these spinoffs are clearly simpler and easier than Zeta, I was thinking of watching them all, counting the CGI Zaku series, in timeline order before moving on to it. If I understand correctly, then Hathaway Splash is better to watch after Zeta?
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RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 I'm not sure about the island, but since all these spinoffs are clearly simpler and easier than Zeta, I was thinking of watching them all, counting the CGI Zaku series, in timeline order before moving on to it. If I understand correctly, then Hathaway Splash is better to watch after Zeta?

Yeah, it's a good idea to watch all the spin-offs before Zeta.

Yeah You understood correctly Hathaway Flash can only be seen after Zeta since it is the direct continuation of the main story we can see the main cast (Gundam 0079, Zeta Gundam 0087, ZZ Gundam 0088, Char Counter Attack 0093 and then Hathaway Flash 0105).
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@WilliamMinerva20 I'm not sure about the island, but since all these spinoffs are clearly simpler and easier than Zeta, I was thinking of watching them all, counting the CGI Zaku series, in timeline order before moving on to it. If I understand correctly, then Hathaway Splash is better to watch after Zeta?

Yeah, it's a good idea to watch all the spin-offs before Zeta.

Yeah You understood correctly Hathaway Flash can only be seen after Zeta since it is the direct continuation of the main story we can see the main cast (Gundam 0079, Zeta Gundam 0087, ZZ Gundam 0088, Char Counter Attack 0093 and then Hathaway Flash 0105).
@WilliamMinerva20 So this should be watched even after the "original" UC is finished, and not just after Zeta itself?
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RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 So this should be watched even after the "original" UC is finished, and not just after Zeta itself?

Yeah that's it. (char limit)
Aug 1, 9:51 AM

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@WilliamMinerva20 So this should be watched even after the "original" UC is finished, and not just after Zeta itself?

Yeah that's it. (char limit)
@WilliamMinerva20 Then I have just one question. I specifically didn't add GQ to the list so I could re-watch it as a marathon after I finished rewatching the original show. Now that I can do that, does watching it require the full Amuro Saga lore for all the homages and hints? I've often heard that the ending of GQ drops a lot of hints towards Char's CA.
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@WilliamMinerva20 Then I have just one question. I specifically didn't add GQ to the list so I could re-watch it as a marathon after I finished rewatching the original show. Now that I can do that, does watching it require the full Amuro Saga lore for all the homages and hints? I've often heard that the ending of GQ drops a lot of hints towards Char's CA.

Yes, to understand GQ you have to watch the entire story of Amuro and Char, namely Gundam 0079, Origin, Zeta Gundam, Char Counter Attack.
Aug 1, 11:05 AM

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@WilliamMinerva20 Then I have just one question. I specifically didn't add GQ to the list so I could re-watch it as a marathon after I finished rewatching the original show. Now that I can do that, does watching it require the full Amuro Saga lore for all the homages and hints? I've often heard that the ending of GQ drops a lot of hints towards Char's CA.

Yes, to understand GQ you have to watch the entire story of Amuro and Char, namely Gundam 0079, Origin, Zeta Gundam, Char Counter Attack.
@WilliamMinerva20 Haha, never thought that in the end GQ become my main motivation for watching original Gundam. Well, thanks for the advice, I'll start with Origin in a few days and move on from there.
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I second what y’all said about The Origin, basically the same just pick the format you prefer (although I recommend the OVA version).

For what UC to watch before Zeta, I’d say don’t feel obliged to watch it all if some you end up not liking, but like y’all discussed I wouldn’t watch a UC that takes place after Zeta. Personally I liked watching UC Gundam mostly by release order rather than UC timeline, since there are so many around 0079 - 0080, but if you don’t mind it or again just only watch the ones you are interested in, you’ll be fine.

Happy viewing!
Aug 1, 11:50 AM

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I second what y’all said about The Origin, basically the same just pick the format you prefer (although I recommend the OVA version).

For what UC to watch before Zeta, I’d say don’t feel obliged to watch it all if some you end up not liking, but like y’all discussed I wouldn’t watch a UC that takes place after Zeta. Personally I liked watching UC Gundam mostly by release order rather than UC timeline, since there are so many around 0079 - 0080, but if you don’t mind it or again just only watch the ones you are interested in, you’ll be fine.

Happy viewing!
@fitzthefast Ideally I'd like to watch Origin and then Zeta right away, but I don't watch such relatively big shows very often, so I want to warm up my motivation through the spin-offs first. Especially since they were released at different times, so it won't be so monotonous.

Thanks.
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@WilliamMinerva20 Haha, never thought that in the end GQ become my main motivation for watching original Gundam. Well, thanks for the advice, I'll start with Origin in a few days and move on from there.

You're welcome. Enjoy watching, bro, I hope you enjoy the journey.
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RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 I'm not sure about the island, but since all these spinoffs are clearly simpler and easier than Zeta, I was thinking of watching them all, counting the CGI Zaku series, in timeline order before moving on to it. If I understand correctly, then Hathaway Splash is better to watch after Zeta?

The Cucuruz Doan’s Island is a film version of the 15th episode of the original 0079 Gundam series that was removed for being poorly animated.

So if you’re streaming the OG Gundam the original episode 15 won’t be there but you can find it on other places.

If you can find episode 15 and watch the movie as well it’s a nice watch for comparison.
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RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 I'm not sure about the island, but since all these spinoffs are clearly simpler and easier than Zeta, I was thinking of watching them all, counting the CGI Zaku series, in timeline order before moving on to it. If I understand correctly, then Hathaway Splash is better to watch after Zeta?

The Cucuruz Doan’s Island is a film version of the 15th episode of the original 0079 Gundam series that was removed for being poorly animated.

So if you’re streaming the OG Gundam the original episode 15 won’t be there but you can find it on other places.

If you can find episode 15 and watch the movie as well it’s a nice watch for comparison.
@AzureZero13 Is this a one hour version of one episode?
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RobertBobert said:
@AzureZero13 Is this a one hour version of one episode?

It’s closer to 2 hours so it’s long and drags at times. It has some different story beats than the original episode and the main series so it nearly feels like it’s own standalone thing.
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@WilliamMinerva20 I'm not sure about the island, but since all these spinoffs are clearly simpler and easier than Zeta, I was thinking of watching them all, counting the CGI Zaku series, in timeline order before moving on to it. If I understand correctly, then Hathaway Splash is better to watch after Zeta?
RobertBobert said:
Should I watch the OVA version of the show or the 13-episode TV version? I rewatched the original Gundam again to start fresh and eventually watch as many shows in the franchise as possible. At least all of UC to start. And what shows in general should I watch to move on to Zeta?

The OVA is the optimum experience. The only things the TV version adds are new openings and endings, and about 15 seconds more Char animation in the final epilogue.
RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 What about Thunderbolt and War in the Pocket?

Thunderbolt is in an alternate UC according to the mangaka. Where the ONA and movies are, only the 0079's setting is referenced, but none of the characters (the ongoing manga has now involved Zeta stuff, if you're curious).
0080 is set away from the frontlines, and the only other series it references is 0079, so Zeta is not necessary for 0080.
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@WilliamMinerva20 I'm not sure about the island, but since all these spinoffs are clearly simpler and easier than Zeta, I was thinking of watching them all, counting the CGI Zaku series, in timeline order before moving on to it. If I understand correctly, then Hathaway Splash is better to watch after Zeta?

Cucuruz Doan's Island uses The Origin setting and art style you can start it after The Origin.
Yes, you should watch Hathaway after Zeta (the series that introduces Hathaway Noa) and Char's Counterattack (where Hathaway Noa becomes an important character).

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RobertBobert said:
Should I watch the OVA version of the show or the 13-episode TV version? I rewatched the original Gundam again to start fresh and eventually watch as many shows in the franchise as possible. At least all of UC to start. And what shows in general should I watch to move on to Zeta?

The OVA is the optimum experience. The only things the TV version adds are new openings and endings, and about 15 seconds more Char animation in the final epilogue.
RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 What about Thunderbolt and War in the Pocket?

Thunderbolt is in an alternate UC according to the mangaka. Where the ONA and movies are, only the 0079's setting is referenced, but none of the characters (the ongoing manga has now involved Zeta stuff, if you're curious).
0080 is set away from the frontlines, and the only other series it references is 0079, so Zeta is not necessary for 0080.
RobertBobert said:
@WilliamMinerva20 I'm not sure about the island, but since all these spinoffs are clearly simpler and easier than Zeta, I was thinking of watching them all, counting the CGI Zaku series, in timeline order before moving on to it. If I understand correctly, then Hathaway Splash is better to watch after Zeta?

Cucuruz Doan's Island uses The Origin setting and art style you can start it after The Origin.
Yes, you should watch Hathaway after Zeta (the series that introduces Hathaway Noa) and Char's Counterattack (where Hathaway Noa becomes an important character).
@Fortress_Maximus So, my plans remain the same, but with Thunderbolt replaced by Island?
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@Fortress_Maximus So, my plans remain the same, but with Thunderbolt replaced by Island?
@RobertBobert I'd recommend doing it that way.

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@RobertBobert I'd recommend doing it that way.
@Fortress_Maximus By the way, I've been wanting to ask for a long time. Is it true that Origin retcons many things in the original Gundam? However, I heard that most of the changes are in the parts that weren't adapted into the anime.
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@Fortress_Maximus By the way, I've been wanting to ask for a long time. Is it true that Origin retcons many things in the original Gundam? However, I heard that most of the changes are in the parts that weren't adapted into the anime.
@RobertBobert These aren't retcons; there are multiple parallel U.C. timelines. Some are minor deviations from 0079 TV, like the 0079 movies, while others are major deviations, such as Tomino's novel, The Origin, Thunderbolt, and GQuuuuuuX.

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@RobertBobert These aren't retcons; there are multiple parallel U.C. timelines. Some are minor deviations from 0079 TV, like the 0079 movies, while others are major deviations, such as Tomino's novel, The Origin, Thunderbolt, and GQuuuuuuX.
@Fortress_Maximus Do you think that, barring canon facts, Origin is in the same another alternate reality like GQ?
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@Fortress_Maximus Do you think that, barring canon facts, Origin is in the same another alternate reality like GQ?
@RobertBobert The Origin and GQ are separate from each other, too, if that's what you are asking.

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@RobertBobert The Origin and GQ are separate from each other, too, if that's what you are asking.
@Fortress_Maximus What I meant was that you consider both shows to be alternatives to the original UC for one reason or another.
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@Fortress_Maximus What I meant was that you consider both shows to be alternatives to the original UC for one reason or another.

GQ is alternate but not an alternative. The divergences with 0079 are deliberate. It's a commentary on the One Year War by showing a contrasting outcome.

The Origin is, if we're talking about Yasuhiko's worldview, which includes both the manga and OVA. One goes through the full length of the One Year War, the years leading up to it and the aftermath. The divergences with 0079 are because that's how Yasuhiko views the One Year War.

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@Fortress_Maximus What I meant was that you consider both shows to be alternatives to the original UC for one reason or another.

GQ is alternate but not an alternative. The divergences with 0079 are deliberate. It's a commentary on the One Year War by showing a contrasting outcome.

The Origin is, if we're talking about Yasuhiko's worldview, which includes both the manga and OVA. One goes through the full length of the One Year War, the years leading up to it and the aftermath. The divergences with 0079 are because that's how Yasuhiko views the One Year War.
@Fortress_Maximus So Origin is more of a prequel + subjective retelling of the events of the original show?

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