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Apr 13, 1:01 AM
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So I've decided to do fish for good anime this season by watching a ton of then, something I haven't done for at least 5 years.
And one thing I've been noticing (At least from the anime I've been watching" is that we're having a ton of non-isekai fantasy, or at the very least things that break the isekai mold.

...did, did we win? Is it over? Fantasysisters, are we back?
Apr 13, 1:16 AM
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It's long overdue, that this Isekai plague be defeated. But until a new type of genre or subgenre replaces Isekai (subgenre of FANTASY)), it won't be truly over.
Apr 13, 1:41 AM
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There are only three anime tagged isekai this season.
Sure, two of then are in the top 5 most popular anime, but look at how many fantasy anime are NOT isekai.
Apr 13, 1:49 AM
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Only 3 isekai in the current season. The last time a season didn't have at least twice as many was Fall 2022, and it doesn't look like Summer and Fall are going to have many isekai.

The isekai fad might really be over, but no one is noticing it because in the end there's not much difference between a low quality isekai light novel and an equally low quality fantasy light novel. And we can be sure fantasy will always be the most popular genre, because the main reason people watch anime is for things they couldn't find in real life.
Apr 13, 1:59 AM
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Good shitty plots have now move to normal fantasy. As long as we have good new original concept like this. I don't care we get less shitty ones.
Apr 13, 2:32 AM
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thewiru said:
So I've decided to do fish for good anime this season by watching a ton of then, something I haven't done for at least 5 years.
And one thing I've been noticing (At least from the anime I've been watching" is that we're having a ton of non-isekai fantasy, or at the very least things that break the isekai mold.

...did, did we win? Is it over? Fantasysisters, are we back?


Just wait and see if this is a new trend for fantasy themed Anime, people will start to bitch and whine about how modern generic general fantasy Anime is. Mainly because modern fantasy Anime still tends to follow the same generic formulas that generic Isekai themed series has mostly followed. Just recently I remember reading a thread of a User bitching and whining about a trend where the protagonist is kicked out of the Asshole party. lol

...and if Isekai slowly starts to disappear from this medium almost completely, Users will start bitching and whining about not enough Isekai themed Anime being produced anymore. lol

I once said this before on a thread maybe about a year or two ago that current modern fans of this medium in the future (if they are still into this medium) in about another 20 years from now that use to bitch and whine about generic Isekai Anime in the 2010s and early 2020s will likely be hunting that shit down to watch out of pure nostalgia for missing how Anime use to be like during that time period. Particularly because that is how a lot of fans feel about the current state of Anime that grew up with stuff from in the 80s and 90s. I even remember my father who is an old school Anime otaku from watching shit in Japan in the 70s and early 80s bitch and whine about how shitty new Anime for him was in the mid 90s. lol

Just recently I finished watching "Shadow Skill: Eigi" which was released back in the late 90s. Originally didn't have much interest in it at the time when it 1st got released in the West but was finally able to find someone selling all 6 DVD volumes of the series on craigslist so I bought it immediately forking out a considerable amount of money for it because they were all unopened copies still in their shrink wrap. I have been wanting to watch this series for the last few years after I found the "Shadow Skill Movie" on DVD at a yard sale about a half a decade ago. I am so glad I was able to finally find this Anime on physical discs and to be able to watch it in it's highest fidelity possible because Anime released during this particular time period is extremely hard to get a hold of in even decent quality even for those who pirate shitty copies of Anime. In 20 years from now, some modern Anime fan will likely be doing exactly the same thing, but just trying to hunt down some generic modern Isekai title they passed up when it was originally released with an extremely long title name. lol
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Apr 13, 2:41 AM
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Maybe isekai is in decline, but non-isekai fantasy seems just as common as before.
*kappa*
Apr 13, 2:51 AM
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How did you not know this? it's been going on for years.
Apr 13, 11:19 AM
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How did you not know this? it's been going on for years.
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Considering that I have been watching less seasonals than I used to and the fact that people still talk like we have 15 isekai every season, is it really that hard not to notice?
Apr 13, 11:36 AM

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I don't typically watch isekai anime shows. I watch Magical Girl anime shows. Like Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Sailor Moon and Hyperdimension Neptunia.
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Apr 13, 11:56 AM

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@Lentus1
Considering that I have been watching less seasonals than I used to and the fact that people still talk like we have 15 isekai every season, is it really that hard not to notice?
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people still talk like we have 15 isekai every season

Native-isekai is grouped with the isekai usually yeah.
Apr 13, 3:59 PM

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It doesn't matter because LitRPGs (Video game-ish Fantasies) are still reigning.
Apr 13, 4:08 PM

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Not much of a difference outside Mc reincarnating. 300 slime is a isekai so it still goes on.
Apr 13, 4:58 PM
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Let me enlighten you on something, as I was just thinking on this today. 3 Fantasy classics, that are also Isekai that were written by the following authors: Edgar Rice Burroughs, Frank L. Baum, Stephen R. Donaldson. Ie, John Carter of Mars (series), The Wizard of Oz, The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever. Do you follow? No Anime", long before that boom, but very much Isekai.
Apr 13, 8:39 PM

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Just last season (Winter 2025) had like 10 isekai shows, give or take.

For some reason it suddenly dropped off this season, and Summer and Fall don't seem to have many either, but get through the year first before declaring the genre "dead"...
Apr 13, 8:48 PM
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Let me enlighten you on something, as I was just thinking on this today. 3 Fantasy classics, that are also Isekai that were written by the following authors: Edgar Rice Burroughs, Frank L. Baum, Stephen R. Donaldson. Ie, John Carter of Mars (series), The Wizard of Oz, The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever. Do you follow? No Anime", long before that boom, but very much Isekai.
@Sheol01 Yeah, people don't realize that the basic isekai plot has been around for more than a century in other media. Even in anime, isekais can be traced back to anime from the eighties like Seisenshi Dunbine.

It's not like this story telling device just emerged out of nowhere during the last decade.
Apr 13, 8:56 PM

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Well doesn't matter because even though the Isekai boom was over but the fantasy lit rpg is domain without the Isekai part there is still those overpowered mc the rpg mechanic weird harem just without the Isekai part is still trash fantasy.
Apr 13, 9:02 PM

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I'm not settled yet on the total number of series from this season I'll end up watching through to the end as some I may still drop this week or next, but at least I've sampled a large number of 18 series and of them, only two are distinctly non-isekai fantasy (Kijin Gentoushou and Aru Majo ga Shinu Made). Some are maybe more the science fantasy flavor of Sci-Fi or may go on to have some supernatural elements peppered in later, but those are the two which are classically fantasy out of the gate, involving demons and witches.

And only one of those series (Teogonia) is isekai. Currently it's not tagged as such (as isekai) on its database entry page on MAL, by the way, so be advised. This would make a fourth.

But hearing a while back now that only a very small percentage of this season's new shows were set to be isekai? Honestly? I was truthfully shocked, left stunned, stupefied with mouth agape.
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I'm not settled yet on the total number of series from this season I'll end up watching through to the end as some I may still drop this week or next, but at least I've sampled a large number of 18 series and of them, only two are distinctly non-isekai fantasy (Kijin Gentoushou and Aru Majo ga Shinu Made). Some are maybe more the science fantasy flavor of Sci-Fi or may go on to have some supernatural elements peppered in later, but those are the two which are classically fantasy out of the gate, involving demons and witches.

And only one of those series (Teogonia) is isekai. Currently it's not tagged as such (as isekai) on its database entry page on MAL, by the way, so be advised. This would make a fourth.

But hearing a while back now that only a very small percentage of this season's new shows were set to be isekai? Honestly? I was truthfully shocked, left stunned, stupefied with mouth agape.
@WatchTillTandava Don't worry, it'll be back. After all, it actually started in the Sci Fi era anyway.
Apr 14, 1:19 AM

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Seems like the isekai hype died off a bit, but it could very well be that we get 10 isekai again next season. Might just be a coincidence this season.
Apr 14, 1:26 AM

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no its not its fucking not over. they're still doing it a fucking lot.
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Apr 14, 1:26 AM

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Seems like the isekai hype died off a bit, but it could very well be that we get 10 isekai again next season. Might just be a coincidence this season.
@Gator wait till something like another NTR gets adapted as anime. its probably gotta get worse
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Apr 14, 1:33 AM
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Yes damn that was too much or them, started with Tate no yuusha best time, what all enjoyed to watch, but now if they saw a potential they used it. Now we want sequel of all parts of genre. Season 2, 3 and 4. Better than a new Isekai every three months^^
Apr 14, 3:16 AM

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@Sheol01 Yeah, people don't realize that the basic isekai plot has been around for more than a century in other media. Even in anime, isekais can be traced back to anime from the eighties like Seisenshi Dunbine.

It's not like this story telling device just emerged out of nowhere during the last decade.
@Nionel this storytelling device has been around for a long time, but I don't think it used to be considered a genre on its own. We'd just call it "a fantasy with a mc that comes from another world". The very specific kind of isekai that popularized the genre only came out in the last 10-15 years.

A Japanese NEET/salaryman (or a bookworm if the mc is female) reincarnated into a powerful being in a fantasy world with guilds, adventurers, demon lord and videogame mechanics... it comes from the novel submission site Narou, the most popular web novels are turned into light novels and then anime. When people complain about isekai and say that the isekai fad might be dying, they're talking about this kind of isekai.
Apr 14, 10:21 AM
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@Nionel this storytelling device has been around for a long time, but I don't think it used to be considered a genre on its own. We'd just call it "a fantasy with a mc that comes from another world". The very specific kind of isekai that popularized the genre only came out in the last 10-15 years.

A Japanese NEET/salaryman (or a bookworm if the mc is female) reincarnated into a powerful being in a fantasy world with guilds, adventurers, demon lord and videogame mechanics... it comes from the novel submission site Narou, the most popular web novels are turned into light novels and then anime. When people complain about isekai and say that the isekai fad might be dying, they're talking about this kind of isekai.
@Nirinbo Well, yeah I too hope the really generic crap dies out. I've seen more than my fair share of it too, yet I keep going back for more. Every now and then, one will surprise me by being either better than expected or fun in some way like Trapped in a Dating Sim was, but those are rare.
But it's not just this type of story, so much Anime' writing became really lazy starting the 2010s & it just really shows here. But Rom Com is another Genre that Suffers as badly from studios just doing copy/paste because a couple of shows did REALLY well.
Apr 14, 3:16 PM
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As long you can't back that from looking up webnovel sites and what's popular there, these daily threads of 'is isekai done' ist just circlejerking
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Apr 14, 5:17 PM
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We won't really win until they start writing OG material. Sorry, best Fantasy Anime I watched in years was Wolf's Rain & OG Full Metal Alchemist. Those two.

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