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| Ok, I like that Misaki is Kokoro's "mom", since she has developed human emotions, she is practically a human mentally, which means she will probably be a key element in convincing Kokoro to help people. The scene where MC defeats everyone and gets away is... stupid. The plot is interesting, I didn't expect that MC is also from the future and that Misaki is so important. |
| How did Malcom get all those resources in the past? R.i.p. Kenta. |
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| Hmm, so that much was obvious. Malcolm made Misaki, though surprisingly it happened in the future and they both time-travelled back in the past. Malcolm made own time machine??? How was that even possible in a post-apocalypse world??? Bollocks! Don't get how Misaki lost memories after CPU removal. She's still sentient but there was no way to keep her memories stored or copied??? Seems like it was done for drama-sake and for "grand reveal" later, rather than to make sense. Kokoro being their child is disappointing considering how she failed her parents and didn't save the world as they hoped. Instead she is now actively killing and enslaving whoever remains. I'm 60% sure Kenta isn't dead and the gunshot is from Eiko who arrived just in time and shot the terminator or something. Netflix has balls to kill a kid? They didn't do it in Ep1 so.... We'll know in the final episode. Hopefully Kokoro gets ashamed, realizes how shit she is compared to her mom and decides to change. Again I'm confused with timelines. If Skynet from "timeline A", sends terminators (inadvertently) to different timelines, how come they all end up in the same different timeline (let's call it timeline B) anyways. I mean, shouldn't timelines be infinite, while time-travelers are few? In that case, terminator and Eiko should have traveled to totally different timelines and not meet each other. So, is there just 1 timeline then, or just 2 timelines?! |
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Hmm, so that much was obvious. Malcolm made Misaki, though surprisingly it happened in the future and they both time-travelled back in the past. Malcolm made own time machine??? How was that even possible in a post-apocalypse world??? Bollocks!
Don't get how Misaki lost memories after CPU removal. She's still sentient but there was no way to keep her memories stored or copied??? Seems like it was done for drama-sake and for "grand reveal" later, rather than to make sense.
Kokoro being their child is disappointing considering how she failed her parents and didn't save the world as they hoped. Instead she is now actively killing and enslaving whoever remains.
I'm 60% sure Kenta isn't dead and the gunshot is from Eiko who arrived just in time and shot the terminator or something. Netflix has balls to kill a kid? They didn't do it in Ep1 so.... We'll know in the final episode.
Hopefully Kokoro gets ashamed, realizes how shit she is compared to her mom and decides to change.
Again I'm confused with timelines. If Skynet from "timeline A", sends terminators (inadvertently) to different timelines, how come they all end up in the same different timeline (let's call it timeline B) anyways. I mean, shouldn't timelines be infinite, while time-travelers are few? In that case, terminator and Eiko should have traveled to totally different timelines and not meet each other. So, is there just 1 timeline then, or just 2 timelines?!
Don't get how Misaki lost memories after CPU removal. She's still sentient but there was no way to keep her memories stored or copied??? Seems like it was done for drama-sake and for "grand reveal" later, rather than to make sense.
Kokoro being their child is disappointing considering how she failed her parents and didn't save the world as they hoped. Instead she is now actively killing and enslaving whoever remains.
I'm 60% sure Kenta isn't dead and the gunshot is from Eiko who arrived just in time and shot the terminator or something. Netflix has balls to kill a kid? They didn't do it in Ep1 so.... We'll know in the final episode.
Hopefully Kokoro gets ashamed, realizes how shit she is compared to her mom and decides to change.
Again I'm confused with timelines. If Skynet from "timeline A", sends terminators (inadvertently) to different timelines, how come they all end up in the same different timeline (let's call it timeline B) anyways. I mean, shouldn't timelines be infinite, while time-travelers are few? In that case, terminator and Eiko should have traveled to totally different timelines and not meet each other. So, is there just 1 timeline then, or just 2 timelines?!
| @Sigmar-Unberogen Again I'm confused with timelines. If Skynet from "timeline A", sends terminators (inadvertently) to different timelines, how come they all end up in the same different timeline (let's call it timeline B) anyways. I mean, shouldn't timelines be infinite, while time-travelers are few? I imagine an infinite number of strings, when someone on string A travels he just ends up in the next one, we can call it B, however anyone in B probably travels to C. At least that's how I think it works. In that case the reason they end up in the same place is because they're all from the same timeline originally and they only time travelled once |
watsym said: I imagine an infinite number of strings, when someone on string A travels he just ends up in the next one, we can call it B, however anyone in B probably travels to C. At least that's how I think it works. In that case the reason they end up in the same place is because they're all from the same timeline originally and they only time travelled once Hmm. I still can't make sense of it because of events from the original movies (have seen 1-3 only). In timeline A, John Connor is giving Skynet hard time, so Skynet sends terminator in the past but unbeknownst to it, the terminator arrives to timeline B instead. How was John even born then? As we know the human sent to stop the time-traveling terminator in T1 turns out to be John's father. Does that mean John had a different father in timeline A? If changes in timeline B can't change shit in timeline A, does that mean John in timeline A is totally different to John in timeline B? Heck, Skynet development began because of wreckage from terminator in T1 to begin with. Does that also mean that Skynet origin story was also different in timeline A or something? Because Skynet couldn't have invented self lol, right? What's the point of sending protectors and friendly terminators back in time if the original timeline won't be affected in any way whatsoever??? John is allegedly kicking Skynet ASS in timeline A, hence why the need of time travel to begin with! John should focus on ass-kicking rather than sending Arnolds for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON in timeline B. Both humans and machines should've realized that something is wrong too. The moment they sent someone in the past, their present should have changed immediately, but since it didn't it's either because of different timelines BS or their guy failed. The whole thing is even dumber when we realize that Skynet should've won immediately. Terminator was sent first so it doesn't matter if John also managed to send a guy after it later. John from timeline A should have memories of friendly terminators saving his ass in T2 and T3 then, from timeline B. Once Skynet sent first terminator, it should've been GAME OVER. It already happened! By the time John sent someone to protect his mom, terminator had all the years to kill her. Dunno, confusing shit. |
Sigmar-UnberogenSep 1, 2024 4:00 PM
| I'm impressed by how Malcolm was able to create Misaki with limited resources |
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| Interesting point, the doctor came to the future with a robot, the mother of the Kokoro!!! kekeke |
| Seeing how Kokoro was reluctant to help, you'd think Malcolm would tell her about Misaki earlier, I think. |
| Damn what a way to end the episode. Although I'd bet that Kenta is still alive though, people are always getting saved at the last minute in this show after all. Big reveals in this episode, like Malcolm actually being from the future (explaining how he knew all that was to happen), and him building Misaki who would essentially become the mother of sorts to Kokoro. Although yeah I disagree with her having to lose her memories. If dude was able to build her AND a time machine in a post-apocalyptic world, I'm sure there could be SOME way to keep Misaki's memories intact even after taking out her cpu. Or maybe just, make a new one? This isn't the most bulletproof of scripts; you can easily write some bs like that into there. But of course we have to have the mysterious aura surrounding Misaki so memory loss it is. Some good questions and points being brought up in this thread, a lot regarding the time travel paradox and what not. Personally, am not just going to think too hard about it. Just gonna look at it as plainly as possible: 2045 (or whatever the year was) Malcolm goes back in time to 1983 (again, whatever the year was), to make Kokoro and stop Skynet in 1997, somehow makes things worse I guess in this new timeline, and 2022 Eiko is sent back to 1997 to stop Malcolm. Which, she kind of fails to do, so things should turn out the same in the 2022 timeline she came from, except there is a terminator in play here this time which I hope she was also intending to stop. Also is it just me or does like Eiko seem to be not at all an important of a character, like being a main character and being the one to stop everything and save everyone and stuff? Idk, but like even until now with one episode left she just seems to be here for babysitting duty. |
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| Boy I've never seen an excuse just to drop information and twists at the end before but there we go. So yeah Misaki was essentially made by Malcom but the thing that really caught me off guard here was literally BOTH OF THEM were from the same future and time travelled to the past thus causing a chain reaction that sets all these events up till now happening. On the one hand we now know what Misaki's deal is, what with having a robotic arm and having superhuman like abilities she's pretty much a reprogrammed Terminator that Malcom tinkered with and basically repurposed her to work for him but the rebel forces that he's with, don't like him, don't like his methods of getting things done and he guns down his fellow men in order to protect Misaki because machines are the rebels' enemies and it's good that we have an idea of WHO she's supposed to be to Kokoro which is to be her mother but at the same time we are 7 episodes in and they are dumping this information at the very end of this show when it could've been conveyed a little better. Seriously this episode has MORE action in it than the previous episodes combined but that's not really saying much considering that this is the penultimate episode before the finale. How in god's name do you make Terminator less thrilling then it should? How do you make Terminator like this? It just boggles my mind completely. God damn. The episode does leave me with a cliffhanger did Kenta die? That was literally what was going through my head when it happened but at the same time should I really care about a kid who turned on his own nanny who was protecting him and got him to safety from the Terminator in police station? Not really because Kenta's an ass. But I'm betting that he's probably not dead considering they haven't killed anybody in the cast up till now. Hopefully I'll get some more action in the finale but I'm really not holding my breath here it's Terminator Zero after all. |
| Lots of truth bombs in this episode but what I still don't get is why Malcolm treat Misaki like shit lol. And talking about shit, Netflix's subs are worse than shit honestly. Even the timing of it is off. |
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| Well. This episode sure answers a lot of questions. First off, Malcolm being from the future. It's kind of less satisfying than him just having prophetic visions of the future. But oh well. It was obvious that there was something up with him the whole time. At least it now explains why Malcolm was struggling to portray the good sides of humanity. Because he grew up knowing nothing but war. Tho it shouldn't have been a problem if he spent over a decade living in the past with his wife and kids. Come to think of it, did Misaki live with them when he had a wife? Did his wife know he was from the future and Misaki was a robot? But the whole deal with Misaki was crazy. Malcolm created her in the future. But for some reason, the resistance didn't like that. So, is sending reprogrammed Terminators to the past not a thing in that timeline? Because no way they'd let such a golden opportunity go to waste. But the name of this anime might be a hint to that. If Terminator Zero is a prequel to Terminator 1 as the name implies then maybe Malcolm's future is the very first timeline chronologically speaking. Of course, Skynet was sending people to the past before that so it's not THE prime timeline. Just the first one when you compare it to all the timelines so far. Tho this kinda diminishes the significance of John Connor sadly. That is if this anime's really canon to anything at all. Malcolm still killing fellow humans was crazy. Ig Misaki learned it from him lol. And Misaki can still function even after her CPU is pulled out? I think that happened in a deleted scene in T2 too. But the T-800 briefly shut down when the CPU was out. It didn't reboot. And that movie came out in the early '90s. So how come an anime made in the 2020s get such a basic thing about computers wrong? Memory isn't stored in the processor LOL. And yeah, Misaki being such a pure robot and then casually swearing in the dub just makes even less sense now lol. Anyway, this was still a very interesting episode. Probably the second-best one after episode 4. Hopefully, the last episode will be good. |
| Why not EMP a few 1NNOs along with that one Terminator to save the life of your child? 6/10 |
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