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RandomPerson9348 said:
Out of the 2/3 arcs of Orokamonogatari I've read till now, there's nothing to censor. Don't know about the third arc and Nademonogatari.

And I'm pretty sure we should be more worried about the quality of the subtitles. Yes, Crunchyroll usually does a good job. But the recent Dead Dead Demon subs have been really bad and Monogatari requires a lot of effort to sub properly.

Ok cool and yea most definitely. If anything when I watch on a pirated site, will there be the censorship and same subs the same as the crunchyroll version if that is the case? that's prolly what I'll resort to do if so.

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Dellio_man said:

RandomPerson9348 said:
Out of the 2/3 arcs of Orokamonogatari I've read till now, there's nothing to censor. Don't know about the third arc and Nademonogatari.

And I'm pretty sure we should be more worried about the quality of the subtitles. Yes, Crunchyroll usually does a good job. But the recent Dead Dead Demon subs have been really bad and Monogatari requires a lot of effort to sub properly.

Ok cool and yea most definitely. If anything when I watch on a pirated site, will there be the censorship and same subs the same as the crunchyroll version if that is the case? that's prolly what I'll resort to do if so.

If there is censorship then the site admins will probably use the original ABEMA source for video and get Crunchyroll subs until fansubs appear. Then they'll switch to fansubs.

Most probably.

Jun 11, 5:56 AM

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Dellio_man said:
So like this may be dumb for me to think but im pretty sure this is gonna air on crunchyroll right? and Alot of crunchyrolls been doing recently is pretty shitty especially with censorship. So I highly doubt and don't wanna bring that energy in the room or even have this point of discussion but, yall think they'll be censorship?

idk how they gonna adapt that one scene from nademonogatari. it's really an I adaptable scene

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RandomPerson9348 said:

Dellio_man said:

Ok cool and yea most definitely. If anything when I watch on a pirated site, will there be the censorship and same subs the same as the crunchyroll version if that is the case? that's prolly what I'll resort to do if so.

If there is censorship then the site admins will probably use the original ABEMA source for video and get Crunchyroll subs until fansubs appear. Then they'll switch to fansubs.

Most probably.

bet then cool thanks 😎

Jun 11, 6:23 AM

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Is it confirmed cr gets the license? They don’t have any other seasons afaik would be strange for them to only get off season then

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TheRealNyanpasu said:
Is it confirmed cr gets the license? They don’t have any other seasons afaik would be strange for them to only get off season then

oh wait they don't have license? I thought they did hence that I think the monogatari series is on cr but true not sure

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TheRealNyanpasu said:
Is it confirmed cr gets the license? They don’t have any other seasons afaik would be strange for them to only get off season then

they have them all though.

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Cestlavie_ said:

TheRealNyanpasu said:
Is it confirmed cr gets the license? They don’t have any other seasons afaik would be strange for them to only get off season then

they have them all though.

Ah ok well i just double checked it not in my country then

Jun 11, 6:52 AM

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sonu711 said:

Dellio_man said:
So like this may be dumb for me to think but im pretty sure this is gonna air on crunchyroll right? and Alot of crunchyrolls been doing recently is pretty shitty especially with censorship. So I highly doubt and don't wanna bring that energy in the room or even have this point of discussion but, yall think they'll be censorship?

idk how they gonna adapt that one scene from nademonogatari. it's really an I adaptable scene

Which scene are ya talking about?

Don't believe the hype.

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Just don’t use that shit. Monogatari requires good subs and you cannot expect that from them.

Jun 11, 10:23 AM

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Hopefully, the production company follows Toei's lead and doesn't license it to a western company. If people want to watch it, they can just find it online subbed by the folks subbing Rinkai or Girls Band Cry

Jun 11, 11:38 AM

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DedPanda said:

sonu711 said:

idk how they gonna adapt that one scene from nademonogatari. it's really an I adaptable scene

Which scene are ya talking about?

the library scene

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sonu711 said:

DedPanda said:

Which scene are ya talking about?

the library scene

I would not know. never read the sauce

Don't believe the hype.

Jun 11, 9:03 PM

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wait for the fansubs. should get within few days given the popularity of the series.

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DedPanda said:

sonu711 said:

the library scene

I would not know. never read the sauce

ohh too NSFW to state here

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that's why I'm definitely watching it on pirate sites... let's be honest, big western entertainment outlets are obsessed with censorship so they're not trustable anymore

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I’m rewatching Monogatari right now on CR. The subs are good, however some scenes are censored like the bathtub scene with Shinobu.

However, censorship is done by productions itself, not CrunchyRoll, so you just gotta hope and pray.

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Yuri_Niji said:
I’m rewatching Monogatari right now on CR. The subs are good, however some scenes are censored like the bathtub scene with Shinobu.

However, censorship is done by productions itself, not CrunchyRoll, so you just gotta hope and pray.

well from my knowledge when i watched monogatari it was uncensored on aniwave 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

so I think I'm straight

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Yuri_Niji said:
I’m rewatching Monogatari right now on CR. The subs are good, however some scenes are censored like the bathtub scene with Shinobu.

However, censorship is done by productions itself, not CrunchyRoll, so you just gotta hope and pray.

well from my knowledge when i watched monogatari it was uncensored on aniwave 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

so I think I'm straight

@Dellio_man Just gotta hope and pray Shaft doesn’t do a Studio Bind and unnecessary censor stuff for the western audience

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@Dellio_man Just gotta hope and pray Shaft doesn’t do a Studio Bind and unnecessary censor stuff for the western audience

Or what the re zero artist stated but n shaft we trust 🙏 (hopefully istg) I mean same directors and judging from the recent pv's they dropped it seems they haven't changed

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Crunchyroll doesn't censor anime idk where you got that from...

Dellio_man said:
oh wait they don't have license? I thought they did hence that I think the monogatari series is on cr but true not sure

They never had the license, the Monogatari series has always been a license of Aniplex USA.

fourteenroads said:
Just don’t use that shit. Monogatari requires good subs and you cannot expect that from them.

CR isn't the one making the subs tho.

Fail_Man_X said:
Hopefully, the production company follows Toei's lead and doesn't license it to a western company. If people want to watch it, they can just find it online subbed by the folks subbing Rinkai or Girls Band Cry

Well then you would be happy to learn that the production company THEMSELVES has licensed this series to their own subsdiary (Aniplex of America)

dpchihuahua said:
that's why I'm definitely watching it on pirate sites... let's be honest, big western entertainment outlets are obsessed with censorship so they're not trustable anymore

Pirate sites literally use the subs from official streaming sites, unless a fansub comes out later on, you would be using official subs even if you watch the show on a pirate site.

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Crunchyroll doesn't censor anime idk where you got that from...

Dellio_man said:
oh wait they don't have license? I thought they did hence that I think the monogatari series is on cr but true not sure

They never had the license, the Monogatari series has always been a license of Aniplex USA.

fourteenroads said:
Just don’t use that shit. Monogatari requires good subs and you cannot expect that from them.

CR isn't the one making the subs tho.

Fail_Man_X said:
Hopefully, the production company follows Toei's lead and doesn't license it to a western company. If people want to watch it, they can just find it online subbed by the folks subbing Rinkai or Girls Band Cry

Well then you would be happy to learn that the production company THEMSELVES has licensed this series to their own subsdiary (Aniplex of America)

dpchihuahua said:
that's why I'm definitely watching it on pirate sites... let's be honest, big western entertainment outlets are obsessed with censorship so they're not trustable anymore

Pirate sites literally use the subs from official streaming sites, unless a fansub comes out later on, you would be using official subs even if you watch the show on a pirate site.

MadanielFL said:
CR isn't the one making the subs tho.

That does not mean that they aren't distributing them, which they are.

Sorry to butt in into a reply to a different post but I thought that I might as well add something to strengthen my initial point.

MadanielFL said:
Pirate sites literally use the subs from official streaming sites, unless a fansub comes out later on, you would be using official subs even if you watch the show on a pirate site.

You can just follow fansub groups or individual translators. Then, not only you have a guarantee that the translation will be coherent, but it will also be consistent. As far as quality goes it definitely differs and it's not like unofficial subs are always better than official and vice versa. At least independent translators sometimes attach notes to their translation explaining the process or clarifying things which I have never seen official anime translators do (with manga this is definitely not the case as I have read a lot of TL notes at the back of volumes). If you put some thinking into where you watch your stuff you will have better experience. With unofficial subs you always have a choice. Don't like fansub translator A? Go and download subs from translator B. Maybe you like the official translation for series X while you prefer fansubs for series Z.

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fourteenroads said:
which I have never seen official anime translators do (with manga this is definitely not the case as I have read a lot of TL notes at the back of volumes). If you put some thinking into where you watch your stuff you will have better experience.

I have seen official subs do translation notes, also most people are gonna be watching the episodes as soon as they come out, and pirate sites will always upload whatever comes first.
So unless you willingly decide to wait a few hours (sometimes a whole day), the only subs available right after release, are the official ones.

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which I have never seen official anime translators do (with manga this is definitely not the case as I have read a lot of TL notes at the back of volumes). If you put some thinking into where you watch your stuff you will have better experience.

I have seen official subs do translation notes, also most people are gonna be watching the episodes as soon as they come out, and pirate sites will always upload whatever comes first.
So unless you willingly decide to wait a few hours (sometimes a whole day), the only subs available right after release, are the official ones.

MadanielFL said:
pirate sites will always upload whatever comes first.

Then don't go to re-upload sites but to the source of the translation. Why rely on a 3rd party when you can go to the source.

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So unless you willingly decide to wait a few hours (sometimes a whole day), the only subs available right after release, are the official ones.

This is just not true. Like sure, there probably is a minority of people who watch as soon as it airs but that's not the majority. Of course that is a generalization and I don't want to speak for other people but I feel like the difference of 2-3 hours is insignificant. It really doesn't make any difference for me if I watch a show at 3pm or at 5pm. It's not like majority of the discussion is happening half an hour after episode goes live anyway.

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fourteenroads said:
It really doesn't make any difference for me if I watch a show at 3pm or at 5pm. It's not like majority of the discussion is happening half an hour after episode goes live anyway.

Maybe not for you, but I know a lot of people that like to watch as soon as possible to avoid getting spoiled.
Also some fansubs take a whole day to come out, so it's even worse then.

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fourteenroads said:
It really doesn't make any difference for me if I watch a show at 3pm or at 5pm. It's not like majority of the discussion is happening half an hour after episode goes live anyway.

Maybe not for you, but I know a lot of people that like to watch as soon as possible to avoid getting spoiled.
Also some fansubs take a whole day to come out, so it's even worse then.

MadanielFL said:
but I know a lot of people that like to watch as soon as possible to avoid getting spoiled.

I mean I can see that being a problem but also ehhhhhh. I never got spoiled within the first day of episode release and watching everything as soon as it airs is just not an option for me (and many other people that I know). So in the end it just sounds like a personal preference.

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Also some fansubs take a whole day to come out, so it's even worse then.

I have personally never seen a group that translates that slowly and I used to follow this one guy who translated like 2-5 shows per season and he uploaded his subs within 2-3 hours. He worked completely alone btw. You can argue that some groups take more time to upload but let's be honest - the most renown groups never take more than 5h.

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fourteenroads said:
I have personally never seen a group that translates that slowly and I used to follow this one guy who translated like 2-5 shows per season and he uploaded his subs within 2-3 hours. He worked completely alone btw. You can argue that some groups take more time to upload but let's be honest - the most renown groups never take more than 5h.

The Summertime Render fansubs famously came out a whole day after broadcast for every single episode of that show.
Also it took weeks for a proper fansub group to start working on Girls Band Cry.

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It depends on popularity. DDY subbed AOT the same day (few hours). But shows like AOT are easy to sub since there are not Japanese signs. Monogatari on the other hand is not only hard to translate, it also has flashing text. Expect v0 version with basic typesetting and translations within a day, v1 within a week, and proper subs after bluray release (Shaft is gonna make many mistakes).

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MadanielFL said:

fourteenroads said:
I have personally never seen a group that translates that slowly and I used to follow this one guy who translated like 2-5 shows per season and he uploaded his subs within 2-3 hours. He worked completely alone btw. You can argue that some groups take more time to upload but let's be honest - the most renown groups never take more than 5h.

The Summertime Render fansubs famously came out a whole day after broadcast for every single episode of that show.
Also it took weeks for a proper fansub group to start working on Girls Band Cry.

liking this discussion tbh. Honestly though I'm more of someone that if it's at least 85% to 90% good translation I can generalize the rest of what was 100% said within wtv translation there was. But Honestly true I do def still prefer a 100% translation and especially for something like monogatari which is all dailogue. Like there's a reason this anime doesn't even have a dub like it's that legendary 💀. So maybe for this watch I do go scouting for these official translators yall talk about tbh.

But we will see tbh I'm still hyped as ever don't want that vibe to bring everyone down for the release of peakmonogatari

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Is it confirmed cr gets the license? They don’t have any other seasons afaik would be strange for them to only get off season then

they have them all though.

@Cestlavie_ they don't have Zoku Owarimonogatari iirc. Which is weird

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MadanielFL said:
Crunchyroll doesn't censor anime idk where you got that from...

Dellio_man said:
oh wait they don't have license? I thought they did hence that I think the monogatari series is on cr but true not sure

They never had the license, the Monogatari series has always been a license of Aniplex USA.

fourteenroads said:
Just don’t use that shit. Monogatari requires good subs and you cannot expect that from them.

CR isn't the one making the subs tho.

Fail_Man_X said:
Hopefully, the production company follows Toei's lead and doesn't license it to a western company. If people want to watch it, they can just find it online subbed by the folks subbing Rinkai or Girls Band Cry

Well then you would be happy to learn that the production company THEMSELVES has licensed this series to their own subsdiary (Aniplex of America)

dpchihuahua said:
that's why I'm definitely watching it on pirate sites... let's be honest, big western entertainment outlets are obsessed with censorship so they're not trustable anymore

Pirate sites literally use the subs from official streaming sites, unless a fansub comes out later on, you would be using official subs even if you watch the show on a pirate site.

tell me you're an American entertainment industries stan without telling me you are... you will deny anything regarding them so it doesn't make sense to argue with you... but facts are facts...

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dpchihuahua said:
tell me you're an American entertainment industries stan without telling me you are... you will deny anything regarding them so it doesn't make sense to argue with you... but facts are facts...

The "facts" that you can't actually back up with any facts.
Show me one anime that Crunchyroll has censored, unless you are pulling out stuff from your ass.

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