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Dec 21, 5:44 PM
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I still can't understand how Ufotable despite having released a season of training has made everything in the worst possible way, adding fillers that were not needed and also quite useless and excessively extending many scenes that instead should have been more contained, not to mention that Ufotable is not even that good at creating interesting fillers, look at the Muichiro episode with the airplanes, what the fuck was that stuff that killed my brain cells?

I'll tell you how I would have made it and if my idea from your point of view would have been more consolidated than Ufotable's:

First of all I would have always made it 11 episodes
-1 episode: I would have left it the same
-2 episode: I would have added here the past of Shinobu and Kanae told in the novel where they asked Gyomei to train them as demon hunters
-3 episode: I would have left the Tomioka ep the same with the addition of the extermination of his sister instead so as to highlight much more Tomioka's determination to become a hunter instead of just saying it in words
-4 episode: here I would have added the Tomioka spin off present in a manga in the form of Tomioka's thoughts where in this spin off shortly after meeting Tanjiro Tomioka wondered if he had made the right choice in saving Nezuko and Tanjiro while participating in a mission with Shinobu to defeat a demon, at the end of this mission Tomioka seems to have found his answer and it would have been nice to see it, because after the events of the 3rd season Tomioka's choice proved to be right in all respects
-5 episode: I would have condensed the training of Tengen, Muichiro and Mitsuri in a single episode (thus removing those useless episodes dedicated to Tengen and Muichiro)
-6 episode: here I would have added the rengoku spin off, making Mitsuri after finishing training Tanjiro start talking about Rengoku and how he became a pillar while training Mitsuri
-7 episode: I would have put Obanai and Sanemi training
-8 episode: I would have condensed Gyomei training and Gyomei's passage all in one episode (so I wouldn't have divided it into 2 parts considering that Ufotable made it a lot longer)
-9 episode: I would have put Sanemi and Tomioka fighting and from here I would have told the beginning of Sanemi's spin off the one in which he shows his relationship with another demon slayer that allowed him to become a hunter and the beginning of their mission to be promoted to pillars
-10 episode: 2 part of Sanemi's spin off (since it is very long) in which I would have shown Sanemi and the other hunter's mission to defeat the 1st waning moon Ubume until we connect to the part where Sanemi destroys one of Nakime's eyes in the present
-11 episode: here I would have put Muzan's walk (which was iconic in ep 7) and I would have left everything as Ufotable had done in the finale with the difference that I would have also added the crescent moons to be shown in the final scene so as to further load the scene that would have dedicated the basis for future clashes.
This is what I would have done (if I had to use the training arc)

As you can see I didn't even need to invent anything, just choose and manage the times and some scenes with which I would have shown this arc, instead I took the material from spin offs and novels that would have also given us much more action than what we saw, and it makes me laugh how Ufotable didn't think about it, also considering that many novels focus especially on exploring the characters on this part of the story in a very interesting way: for example there is a dialogue between Muichiro and Gyomei in which Mui worries about Gyomei in case he awakens the mark since he is 27 years old and therefore has already passed the 25 in which the curse should strike and Gyomei reiterates that he doesn't worry and in fact that he is more worried about Muichiro and Mitsuri given their low life expectancy (at that time he hadn't yet bonded with Tanjiro XD) and from there an interesting dialogue is born where you can also see the growth that Muichiro was having, which Gyomei acknowledges, (this is to give an example).

What do you think about all this?
Dec 21, 5:55 PM
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someone summarize this in 15 letters, i ain't reading allat
Dec 21, 5:57 PM
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That demon Slayer is not a series worth all that thinking it's consume and dump series. It's not a series worth talking, writing and thinking about it. Watch it in the hype then move on until the next installment because the answer to why it's been made that way it's because Aniplex and Suieisha the main producers of the show decided that way ufotable had nothing to do with it in the decision making. Demon Slayer is a Aniplex baby not ufotable.
Dec 21, 6:38 PM
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You realize how short the arc is the manga right? They had to add in filler to stretch it out.
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Dec 21, 6:50 PM
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Fukoku said:
You realize how short the arc is the manga right? They had to add in filler to stretch it out.

Did you even read the post? What he says is that it could've been a whole season using the novels which I do agree, they could connect very well in this arc. However there's no point in getting upset at Ufotable as it's done already and it wasn't even their decision.
Dec 21, 6:54 PM
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Reply to Otakupervert890
That demon Slayer is not a series worth all that thinking it's consume and dump series. It's not a series worth talking, writing and thinking about it. Watch it in the hype then move on until the next installment because the answer to why it's been made that way it's because Aniplex and Suieisha the main producers of the show decided that way ufotable had nothing to do with it in the decision making. Demon Slayer is a Aniplex baby not ufotable.
@Otakupervert890

I think the big problem with Demon Slayer is its overly simple plotline, and sometimes the plot just feels predictable. This is especially with character deaths.
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Dec 21, 7:06 PM
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Otakupervert890 said:
That demon Slayer is not a series worth all that thinking it's consume and dump series. It's not a series worth talking, writing and thinking about it. Watch it in the hype then move on until the next installment because the answer to why it's been made that way it's because Aniplex and Suieisha the main producers of the show decided that way ufotable had nothing to do with it in the decision making. Demon Slayer is a Aniplex baby not ufotable.

So funny you say this, when this idea is 100 times worse than what happened. Very ironic
Dec 21, 7:14 PM
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I didn't read this whole post, it's too damn long but if we are giving opinions I would say since this arc was so short Ufotable should have created a movie instead of a season like they did with mugen train arc. They should have just covered the whole arc in a movie.
Dec 21, 7:18 PM
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I mean the arc was short so fillers are needed to like somewhat make it feel like a complete seasons but I would still prefer if it was a movie instead
Dec 21, 8:19 PM
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Otakupervert890 said:
That demon Slayer is not a series worth all that thinking it's consume and dump series. It's not a series worth talking, writing and thinking about it. Watch it in the hype then move on until the next installment because the answer to why it's been made that way it's because Aniplex and Suieisha the main producers of the show decided that way ufotable had nothing to do with it in the decision making. Demon Slayer is a Aniplex baby not ufotable.

So funny you say this, when this idea is 100 times worse than what happened. Very ironic
@Bailey_Swag it's not about which is worse I couldn't care less about neither it's about who hold the card and it's not ufotable it's Aniplex and Suieisha. I just written more words that necessary to get sure op understand the memo.
Dec 21, 8:54 PM

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Despite being not a fan, I used to rate DS more than shows I like more simply because of the adaptational quality. This season, except for the last episode... fails. Many shonen anime excel when they present their adult cast, and they kinda made it feel underwhelming here despite the presence of material.
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Dec 22, 12:00 AM
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Laplace_kun said:
Despite being not a fan, I used to rate DS more than shows I like more simply because of the adaptational quality. This season, except for the last episode... fails. Many shonen anime excel when they present their adult cast, and they kinda made it feel underwhelming here despite the presence of material.

it didn't even had any material to bigin with
and they are focusing on kids too so we don't want any Volgarism like csm ,
if you want some material wait till the next movie
tht whole season was just a like a filler
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Dec 22, 1:06 AM
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For me they just added more stuff and made it better and more detailed than the Manga. Doesn't matter if all that stuff didn't matter.
Dec 22, 2:29 AM
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Leon888 said:
I still can't understand how Ufotable despite having released a season of training has made everything in the worst possible way, adding fillers that were not needed and also quite useless and excessively extending many scenes that instead should have been more contained, not to mention that Ufotable is not even that good at creating interesting fillers, look at the Muichiro episode with the airplanes, what the fuck was that stuff that killed my brain cells?

I'll tell you how I would have made it and if my idea from your point of view would have been more consolidated than Ufotable's:

First of all I would have always made it 11 episodes
-1 episode: I would have left it the same
-2 episode: I would have added here the past of Shinobu and Kanae told in the novel where they asked Gyomei to train them as demon hunters
-3 episode: I would have left the Tomioka ep the same with the addition of the extermination of his sister instead so as to highlight much more Tomioka's determination to become a hunter instead of just saying it in words
-4 episode: here I would have added the Tomioka spin off present in a manga in the form of Tomioka's thoughts where in this spin off shortly after meeting Tanjiro Tomioka wondered if he had made the right choice in saving Nezuko and Tanjiro while participating in a mission with Shinobu to defeat a demon, at the end of this mission Tomioka seems to have found his answer and it would have been nice to see it, because after the events of the 3rd season Tomioka's choice proved to be right in all respects
-5 episode: I would have condensed the training of Tengen, Muichiro and Mitsuri in a single episode (thus removing those useless episodes dedicated to Tengen and Muichiro)
-6 episode: here I would have added the rengoku spin off, making Mitsuri after finishing training Tanjiro start talking about Rengoku and how he became a pillar while training Mitsuri
-7 episode: I would have put Obanai and Sanemi training
-8 episode: I would have condensed Gyomei training and Gyomei's passage all in one episode (so I wouldn't have divided it into 2 parts considering that Ufotable made it a lot longer)
-9 episode: I would have put Sanemi and Tomioka fighting and from here I would have told the beginning of Sanemi's spin off the one in which he shows his relationship with another demon slayer that allowed him to become a hunter and the beginning of their mission to be promoted to pillars
-10 episode: 2 part of Sanemi's spin off (since it is very long) in which I would have shown Sanemi and the other hunter's mission to defeat the 1st waning moon Ubume until we connect to the part where Sanemi destroys one of Nakime's eyes in the present
-11 episode: here I would have put Muzan's walk (which was iconic in ep 7) and I would have left everything as Ufotable had done in the finale with the difference that I would have also added the crescent moons to be shown in the final scene so as to further load the scene that would have dedicated the basis for future clashes.
This is what I would have done (if I had to use the training arc)

As you can see I didn't even need to invent anything, just choose and manage the times and some scenes with which I would have shown this arc, instead I took the material from spin offs and novels that would have also given us much more action than what we saw, and it makes me laugh how Ufotable didn't think about it, also considering that many novels focus especially on exploring the characters on this part of the story in a very interesting way: for example there is a dialogue between Muichiro and Gyomei in which Mui worries about Gyomei in case he awakens the mark since he is 27 years old and therefore has already passed the 25 in which the curse should strike and Gyomei reiterates that he doesn't worry and in fact that he is more worried about Muichiro and Mitsuri given their low life expectancy (at that time he hadn't yet bonded with Tanjiro XD) and from there an interesting dialogue is born where you can also see the growth that Muichiro was having, which Gyomei acknowledges, (this is to give an example).

What do you think about all this?

damn bro thats crazy 🗿🗿🗿
Dec 22, 10:48 PM
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Tbh this was my favorite season cause they did something different from the previous rinse and repeat cycle
Dec 23, 12:29 AM
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GYATyoruichi said:
someone summarize this in 15 letters, i ain't reading allat

Especially since it seems dumb
Dec 23, 9:25 AM
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I always see you making these posts to hate on something. You know you don’t get paid to bait on here right? This ain’t twitter.
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It would take a lot to convince me that this season should have been longer.

The hashira backstories and relationships sound like interesting additions, but to me (anime-only) they still feel like distractions from the core of the story, which is clearly entering the endgame. The season should've focused on the task at hand, with some small character moments woven into that.

For one, I did like the conflict between Genya and Sanemi. It was bound to happen from the whole "everyone training together" premise, it seriously challenged both of them personally and professionally, and Tanjiro was stuck trying to mediate.

In contrast, I thought Gyomei's extensive backstory was mostly unnecessary, since it wasn't particularly original and led to anything dramatic. They could've cut that down to just a few glimpses and hints about his past. Tanjiro pushing that boulder was far more relevant to the story (no matter how silly that sounds).

It's great that you put this much thought into it and you're obviously deep in the lore. And I wouldn't mind seeing these stories, just in a special/OVA, not within the season. It should've been 5 episodes at most.
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agree, its wasted, only 2 ep include canon
Dec 23, 7:14 PM
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Agreed ufotable should’ve stopped adapting demon slayer and gave us a fsn fate route instead
Dec 24, 10:21 AM
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Fukoku said:
You realize how short the arc is the manga right? They had to add in filler to stretch it out.

there are way better things to add than what they added but ufotable dosent wanna try different things
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GYATyoruichi said:
someone summarize this in 15 letters, i ain't reading allat

MAL user thinks they can do a better job at producing a season of anime than the studios that already do
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someone summarize this in 15 letters, i ain't reading allat
@GYATyoruichi I found this season disappointing and I have put several points to improve it significantly.
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That demon Slayer is not a series worth all that thinking it's consume and dump series. It's not a series worth talking, writing and thinking about it. Watch it in the hype then move on until the next installment because the answer to why it's been made that way it's because Aniplex and Suieisha the main producers of the show decided that way ufotable had nothing to do with it in the decision making. Demon Slayer is a Aniplex baby not ufotable.
@Otakupervert890 In short, it doesn't change the fact that it was still a disappointing season, but at least they could have offered much more canonical content to entertain the viewer (and not useless fillers that contradict themselves). In any case, I find this vision of yours very limiting, if you have the possibility of improving the project you're working on, why not do it?
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You realize how short the arc is the manga right? They had to add in filler to stretch it out.
@Fukoku Did you read what I wrote? There was no need to add unnecessary filler, demon slayer has a lot of side stories that they could have implemented in this season to make it longer
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Fukoku said:
You realize how short the arc is the manga right? They had to add in filler to stretch it out.

Did you even read the post? What he says is that it could've been a whole season using the novels which I do agree, they could connect very well in this arc. However there's no point in getting upset at Ufotable as it's done already and it wasn't even their decision.
@Yellow2000 It makes sense to get angry, because they also have a say in the project and I would like to point out that they created useless fillers to lengthen this season.
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I didn't read this whole post, it's too damn long but if we are giving opinions I would say since this arc was so short Ufotable should have created a movie instead of a season like they did with mugen train arc. They should have just covered the whole arc in a movie.
@IkemenSenpai I would have instead opted for a very long season of 25 episodes which also included Infinity Castle (a bit like how JJK2 adapted Gojo's past and Shibuya arc), but since they wanted to create this arc in one season, they should have put more effort into the realization.
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I mean the arc was short so fillers are needed to like somewhat make it feel like a complete seasons but I would still prefer if it was a movie instead
@lucas_tong_3133 There was no need to add unnecessary fillers, Demon Slayer has a lot of side stories that they could have implemented in this season to make it longer.
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Despite being not a fan, I used to rate DS more than shows I like more simply because of the adaptational quality. This season, except for the last episode... fails. Many shonen anime excel when they present their adult cast, and they kinda made it feel underwhelming here despite the presence of material.
@Laplace_kun Part of the problem also comes from the source material, but Ufotable made it worse than it is.
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Laplace_kun said:
Despite being not a fan, I used to rate DS more than shows I like more simply because of the adaptational quality. This season, except for the last episode... fails. Many shonen anime excel when they present their adult cast, and they kinda made it feel underwhelming here despite the presence of material.

it didn't even had any material to bigin with
and they are focusing on kids too so we don't want any Volgarism like csm ,
if you want some material wait till the next movie
tht whole season was just a like a filler
@SoloNecromancer I know, but they had so much potential that was wasted in this season, which is a reminder that Ufotable is not good at creating filler when needed.
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For me they just added more stuff and made it better and more detailed than the Manga. Doesn't matter if all that stuff didn't matter.
@Levi1108 They made it so much better that they contradicted themselves:
-Why didn't Muzan kill Sanemi and Obanai in the infinity castle (ep 1) when he could have killed them and taken out 2 pillars at once?
-Why is it said that Obanai and Sanemi are equal in strength when in the manga it is shown that Sanemi is on a higher level?
-Why does Tengen complain about being useless when he easily beats 90% of the hunters present?
And there are other questions that prove that they contradict themselves, because their filler is so bad.
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Tbh this was my favorite season cause they did something different from the previous rinse and repeat cycle
@MessyMarv That is, contradict themselves? Add completely useless scenes? Make the training sessions excessively long, resulting in them being monotonous? Well, sometimes I don't understand how fans think.
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GYATyoruichi said:
someone summarize this in 15 letters, i ain't reading allat

Especially since it seems dumb
@Bejitto It will never be as stupid as this comment 😂
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I always see you making these posts to hate on something. You know you don’t get paid to bait on here right? This ain’t twitter.
@LegacyDaKing I always hope for common sense and objectivity in people, but yes you are right, people in general almost always settle for mediocrity, no matter how much you want to show that a product can be a thousand times better than the one you are consuming...
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Agreed ufotable should’ve stopped adapting demon slayer and gave us a fsn fate route instead
@Driz I'm not saying this, although I want FSN too, but Ufotable should have made this bow better
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GYATyoruichi said:
someone summarize this in 15 letters, i ain't reading allat

MAL user thinks they can do a better job at producing a season of anime than the studios that already do
@Xenoglossia Of course, the studios don't have the truth in their pockets, if I as a viewer notice many problems in this season, then obviously there is something wrong (it's no coincidence that it's the worst season of the anime)
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Fukoku said:
You realize how short the arc is the manga right? They had to add in filler to stretch it out.

there are way better things to add than what they added but ufotable dosent wanna try different things
@SCYTHER07 It's really sad that Ufotable settles for the banalities instead of trying to create something more innovative
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It would take a lot to convince me that this season should have been longer.

The hashira backstories and relationships sound like interesting additions, but to me (anime-only) they still feel like distractions from the core of the story, which is clearly entering the endgame. The season should've focused on the task at hand, with some small character moments woven into that.

For one, I did like the conflict between Genya and Sanemi. It was bound to happen from the whole "everyone training together" premise, it seriously challenged both of them personally and professionally, and Tanjiro was stuck trying to mediate.

In contrast, I thought Gyomei's extensive backstory was mostly unnecessary, since it wasn't particularly original and led to anything dramatic. They could've cut that down to just a few glimpses and hints about his past. Tanjiro pushing that boulder was far more relevant to the story (no matter how silly that sounds).

It's great that you put this much thought into it and you're obviously deep in the lore. And I wouldn't mind seeing these stories, just in a special/OVA, not within the season. It should've been 5 episodes at most.
@perseii I agree, I would have also preferred a long season of 25 episodes that also included Infinity Castle (a bit like JJK2 adapted Gojo's past and the Shibuya arc).

As for Sanemi and Genya, their conflict was interesting to see, but all of this really finds more depth in Sanemi's novel in which Sanemi's point of view on Genya is explored much more

As for Gyomei, the main criticism is that Kaigaku really seemed like a character not very present despite having a huge role in his past and it would have been interesting to see those 2 interact in the demon slayer body, but I think that they have stretched the matter regarding Gyomei excessively.

For the boulder that moves Tanjiro I didn't like it because it uses the mark to move that boulder, when the ability of "repeated actions" is in the fact that you can draw on more strength without having to show off power ups out of nowhere, for example Genya without breathing still managed to move that boulder, and Inosuke did the same without using the mark. Tanjiro at that moment felt like he was cheating.
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Leon888 said:
@lucas_tong_3133 There was no need to add unnecessary fillers, Demon Slayer has a lot of side stories that they could have implemented in this season to make it longer.

they only have 2 side story
which are rengoku,mitsuri n giyu shinobu
i think they will adapt this in upcoming movie during akaza with akaza or
tv version of infinity castle arc!
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