DaPlane said: Fr. It doesn’t really feel like jojos compared to parts 3,4,5 All of those parts have incredibly different artstyles even between themselves. DP always changes things up. |
| It is kinda lacking. The fights don't seem to have an impact. I won't blame David Pro in anyway. Netflix always fu*ks up good mangas anyway |
| I think it looks better than part 5, at least the color does |
| Of course it's different. Every jojo part has different art style and animation. |
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| Characters and stands are animated in 3D in some scenes. Some minor elements also. I hope there will not be more 3D in next episodes |
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Hentai_heaven said: racers551 said: cmon dude they don't even release much anime, so dont blame everything on scheduleYeah, they apparently had a horrible schedule, worse than AOT season 4 part 1 in some ways. You do realize that a lot of problems come with the schedule, right? Studios are most, if not all the time, when big companies are involved in the production/airing scheduling of a show, not at fault, they're simply animating and producing the product in the short span of time that was given to them, they can't just bend it if they want to. AOT S4P1 staff actually asked for more time, a good example of a big problem in the industry, and it was completely refused, as the anime was demanded to be aired at the time it did, making the animators and director cut a lot of corners, making some episodes look choppy. This is most likely what happened here with DP too, Netflix and Warner pressuring the Studio to animate a single cour of the show with less 3 months to work with. Yes, weekly releases can sometimes help to fix mistakes, correct proportions and expand upon scenes, and cutting these weeks out of the picture just forces the animators to cut corners with alternatives, that is most likely why there was A LOT of CGI used, mainly in the White Snake vs Jolyne encounter and Rangler Model, this was one of the ways DP was able to cut corners and speed up production of these episodes, and it's noticeable that they were pressured into finishing the last 3 episodes quickly, as they all look strange, in a way, either having really good looking scenes at times but then poorly made shots and peculiar CGI usage. |
| the art just looks generally less details most the time, though that can be a little muddied by how literally dark part 5 was so it had harder shadows and colors while part 6 is really bright and saturated in colors. But I definitely thing it looks considerably worse |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Hentai_heaven said: Tell me you don't know how the anime industry works, without telling me you don't know how the anime industry worksracers551 said: cmon dude they don't even release much anime, so dont blame everything on scheduleYeah, they apparently had a horrible schedule, worse than AOT season 4 part 1 in some ways. |
Hentai_heaven said: POV: you don't know how anime industry worksDaryllkun said: ofcourse kid blame everything on netflix.if they didnt have schedule they could have gone for weekly schedule but money sways everyone. It's not like they were handling two different shows nor had they released anime prior. I'm not shitting on studio, it's just same studio used to do better.Tell me you don't know how the anime industry works, without telling me you don't know how the anime industry works bruh, it's not the studio that decides if the anime will be weekly or not, the higher-ups or the producers decide it. Also, anime in netflix are always not weekly. Your username is Hentai_heaven, it's like when a 12 year old discovers hentai and use it as a username to be cool and adult, so I don't think that you should be using the word "kid" |
| Yep, it looks much cheaper, uninspired and inconsistent visually compared to previous parts, and a downgrade from a Part 5 that wasn't even that amazing in this department either. It's by no means the worst series I've seen visually of course, just fairly disappointing compared to the standards set in early parts given the reputation David Production has with handling the source material with tons of care and passion. The 12 episodes so far somewhat lacks that when I saw it, but that might change with future batches. |
Hentai_heaven said: Are you blind? I didn't even say noob lmfao, kid=/=noob bruh, you sound like a kid on this one. Why are you still arguing with me, is it really hard to admit that you're wrong or just stay silent if you still have a little bit of shame left. And why are you arguing with me about tight schedule, I was just mentioning that you don't know how the anime industry works and pointing out your mistakes. Lastly, I didn't know that adults can't have mha and demon slayer as their favourite, seriously desperate ppl always come on my fave anime/manga just to think of a comeback. How sad.Daryllkun said: kid has demon slayer and mha in his fav and is calling me a noob.POV: you don't know how anime industry works bruh, it's not the studio that decides if the anime will be weekly or not, the higher-ups or the producers decide it. Also, anime in netflix are always not weekly. Your username is Hentai_heaven, it's like when a 12 year old discovers hentai and use it as a username to be cool and adult, so I don't think you should be using the word "kid" Firstly studio can decide if they are in production committee. Secondly, what tight schedule huh? I can understand if studio was busy with multiple works which dp doesn't have. Just admit it, very few studios go all out for sequels. |
27thEiffelDec 6, 2021 6:45 AM
| I thought Part 6 so far has been extremely mediocre in visual presentation, which would make sense given how David Production has pretty much changed itself in terms of staff members over the recent years. While this new style may work for something like Fire Force for what it’s worth, it doesn’t befit Jojo’s case imho. A majority of them are ex-Shaft members from what I was told. That and Netflix prison and lingering pandemic side effects hurts production-wise. |
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| The overall visuals have definitely degraded. There seems to be a lack of cleanup in general, presumably due to scheduling. Thanks to the lack of cleanup, characters are off model *a lot* this season, and the way characters are drawn changes constantly. Cleanup artists ensure that each Key Animators' personal art style doesn't bleed into the character designs too much, and characters stay on model, which is why the character art is inconsistent.The animation itself isn't particularly impressive. Jojo is more known for its usage of detailed stills, but the drawings aren't very strong in general and are inconsistent in terms of details (partially due to the lack of cleanup). In- betweens are lacking in certain cuts, making actions look stiff and abrupt, for example in episode 4, when Jotaro used SPTW. Colouring doesn't feel as dynamic as previous parts, but is more akin to colouring techniques used in a vast majority of anime nowadays. Jojo is known for its detailed character designs, so excessive sakuga wasn't an expectation of mine going into part 6, but general fluidity has definitely decreased. This may be because of the setting, but background art is very dull and lackluster at points. Background art in Jojo has changed in part 3+, utilizing bold/ noticeable outlines and lineart, but it isn't as noticeable in part 6 and the overall background style is more traditional. Storyboarding is very weak this season. Previous parts had very strong, definitive, and dynamic directing, which this part lacks. Storyboarding is very generic, even for the classic Jojo stills, and action sequences are unimpressive and serviceable at most. The visuals are definitely a step down from previous seasons. |
KayY_YDec 13, 2021 10:51 PM
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KayY_J said: The overall visuals have definitely degraded. There seems to be a lack of cleanup in general, presumably due to scheduling. Thanks to the lack of cleanup, characters are off model *a lot* this season, and the way characters are drawn changes constantly. Cleanup artists ensure that each Key Animators personal art style doesn't bleed into the character designs too much, and characters stay on model, which is why the character art is inconsistent.The animation itself isn't particularly impressive. Jojo is more known for its usage of detailed stills, but the drawings aren't very strong in general and are inconsistent in terms of details (partially due to the lack of cleanup). In- betweens are lacking in certain cuts, making actions look stiff and abrupt, for example in episode 4, when Jotaro used SPTW. Colouring doesn't feel as dynamic as previous parts, but is more akin to colouring techniques used in a vast majority of anime nowadays. Jojo is known for its detailed character designs, so excessive sakuga wasn't an expectation of mine going into part 6, but general fluidity has definitely decreased. This may be because of the setting, but background art is very dull and lackluster at points. Background art in Jojo has changed in part 3+, utilizing bold/ noticeable outlines and lineart, but tit isn't as noticeable in part 6 and the overall background style is more traditional. Storyboarding is very weak this season. Previous parts had very strong, definitive, and dynamic directing, which this part lacks. Storyboarding is very generic, even for the classic Jojo stills, and action sequences are unimpressive and serviceable at most. The visuals are definitely a step down from previous seasons. Ok Gordom Ransay of anime quality. |
Oongbuh said: The title of the thread is literally "Is it just me or is the animation slightly different compared to Part 5?". I'm just answering OP's question, I don't see the problem at all.KayY_J said: The overall visuals have definitely degraded. There seems to be a lack of cleanup in general, presumably due to scheduling. Thanks to the lack of cleanup, characters are off model *a lot* this season, and the way characters are drawn changes constantly. Cleanup artists ensure that each Key Animators personal art style doesn't bleed into the character designs too much, and characters stay on model, which is why the character art is inconsistent.The animation itself isn't particularly impressive. Jojo is more known for its usage of detailed stills, but the drawings aren't very strong in general and are inconsistent in terms of details (partially due to the lack of cleanup). In- betweens are lacking in certain cuts, making actions look stiff and abrupt, for example in episode 4, when Jotaro used SPTW. Colouring doesn't feel as dynamic as previous parts, but is more akin to colouring techniques used in a vast majority of anime nowadays. Jojo is known for its detailed character designs, so excessive sakuga wasn't an expectation of mine going into part 6, but general fluidity has definitely decreased. This may be because of the setting, but background art is very dull and lackluster at points. Background art in Jojo has changed in part 3+, utilizing bold/ noticeable outlines and lineart, but tit isn't as noticeable in part 6 and the overall background style is more traditional. Storyboarding is very weak this season. Previous parts had very strong, definitive, and dynamic directing, which this part lacks. Storyboarding is very generic, even for the classic Jojo stills, and action sequences are unimpressive and serviceable at most. The visuals are definitely a step down from previous seasons. Ok Gordom Ransay of anime quality. |
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| One of the best parts of this series is the variety in art styles and settings. This series wouldn’t be so wildly popular if all the seasons looked the same and used the exact same color palettes. It’s virtually impossible to keep the same staff producing every season of a series, so yeah, there’s gonna be changes. Where’s the issue, exactly? |
| Yeah, for sure. Part 6 is definitely a more limited animation (production), with less complex lines and movement (kinda like part 4 was), less sakugas, etcetera. This is due to difficult schedule. Vento Aureo is EASILY the best animation JoJo's has ever had, and is completely ahead of the curve in that sense (i'm not sure how they were able to pulled it off), so is not gonna be easy to have another one 30+ animation like that again (maybe they will be able with SBR but is not gonna be a certainty, even though part 7 deserves it), but i'll say this: i like that all parts are differently animated in it's cour, and i don't think JoJo is a type of animation that need Sakugas or complex animation all the time, it hasn't been about that before, don't think it should be about it now. |
Mizu said: This isnt a matter of art style shift, it just generallys looks alot more stiff and off model than ususal. Part 4 also had alot of issues with off-model character designs before Blu rays but also generally had alot stronger animation and sakuga moments even before that mainly early on. Part 6 in contrast just looks less details are more reliant on stagnant shots. And I'm going easy on it there comparing it to part 4, if I am including a contrast to part 5 it's a massive step down in detail and animation. By a few accounts this is the result of a much rougher internal production and crunching than usual due to restructuring around at davidpro.One of the best parts of this series is the variety in art styles and settings. This series wouldn’t be so wildly popular if all the seasons looked the same and used the exact same color palettes. It’s virtually impossible to keep the same staff producing every season of a series, so yeah, there’s gonna be changes. Where’s the issue, exactly? Its a damn shame cause if we have the past few shows to go off of, the general animation quality is gonna be at its strongest in the early episodes so I really hope part 6's doesnt end up having to adapt maybe the most wild finales with a production closer to part 1 and 2 than the more recent ones. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Overall it looks less polished than part 5, but I still think it looks good and I like some of the stylistic flair they've added to it. Part 6's strong point is the story, imo, so as long as they deliver that well, I'll be satisfied. |
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