| Just a little history and our disbelief disappears for a few moments, it makes us think and doubt at least for a second about our cold and objective beliefs. I made this thread for something that I find very curious and interesting. A file of the US government about an interrogation dating from 1984. MARS EXPLORATION. This file provides us with information about an alleged interrogation of a psychic with some supernatural powers (forgive the redundancy). https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001900760001-9.pdf So leaving aside the fact that the CIA can manipulate (although i dont know what reason in this case) or that sounds like something absurd and a fairy tale. This is real and is part of the history of the United States. It is something that seems impressive but at the same time absurd. So this leads to the next question. Do you believe in psychics or supernatural powers? |
| I have psychic abilities myself. I can give myself an erection with my mind alone, no matter how inappropriate the location. |
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| transhumanism and technological singularity will make this magic stuff become real imo as they say any advance technology is like magic as for the CIA story it could be just a one giant coincidence like did they even do other prediction test on that psychic? the scientific method is all about replication or reproducibility anyway |
| @Flevalt They were just looking for fame or money? I don't know very well how much that benefited them in CIA interrogations. But I could not say that ALL are con-artists. and if they were, then, they were geniuses!. @Scud Woah, I thought I was the only one. But calm down, the police explained to me that it was not about psychic stuff (a little by force) and it was a bad thing to do it without pants in places like elementary school. @traed oh yes, it's true that I wasn't specific. I was referring to super powers like the one in that same document. Do not move objects, since it would enter into the theme of magicians and other more "sub-realistic" themes. But rather manage to see things that other people cannot. As in the case of forensic investigations in which psychics are used when they lack clues. con-artists aside. @deg I do not believe that we will manufacture a machine to see the past as shown in the document. Since it would only be simulations and speculations with future research and discoveries. Of course there are many things like seeing through the walls or moving natural objects at a distance. But hope there will be fox girls with penis in the future, I look forward to it. |
| No. I'm neither superstitious nor religious. Not a fan of conspiracy theories either. |
| I do believe in in one supernatural entity: objective morality |
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PornstarAhri said: Just put the desk attached to the wall this way. Goodbye presence and hello peaceful weeb lifeYes I believe in the supernatural. I can already sense a presence behind me being disappointed as I'm watching weeb cringe compilations |
| I beleive that one can cultivate their senses/intuition to a level that may be seen as extrasensory perception and that accordingly, one can also gain some sort of mastery over the seemingly imerceptible information that they are sending out. Plants communicate chemically and animals have instinct, humans got that shit too. |
| Konbu is important |
SuperHands said: ye many animals already have something similar using their smell and vision or other senses in an incredible way. Humans have a very advanced intuition, so that would not be very strange. I beleive that one can cultivate their senses/intuition to a level that may be seen as extrasensory perception and that accordingly, one can also gain some sort of mastery over the seemingly imerceptible information that they are sending out. Plants communicate chemically and animals have instinct, humans got that shit too. those guys should be becoming millionaires in the casinos all over the world. But they prefer to go to an interrogation of the CIA, it seems that they are very humble people. |
| i am unsure on that due to MKultra. most the documents to that experiment were burned. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| I don't believe anything unless I see it with my own eyes |
| I'll believe it when it's actually proven. CIA shady, unreliable experiments notwithstanding. Anyway, if they had physics, they clearly didn't use them. So far, "supernatural powers" have, let's say, a poor track record with reality, so that's nonsense as far I'm concerned. |
on BrightFlashLight said: I'm not sure if atheist horror writers do the same...You have to suspend your disbelief for a moment in order to write such stories at will. |
BrightFlashLight said: well, in a specific situation like that may..... well, it's hard to believe the truth. I guess it's something like getting into a role or something?.xA-2 said: I'm not sure if atheist horror writers do the same... I'm sure they have to when the protagonist is the devil and the horrors are the grotesque angels. They have to suspend their disbelief that there isn't a god promoting an orderly religion to reign you in. |
BrightFlashLight said: Oh, good to know. I think I have the potential to make one of those rapist stories, playing both roles can be fun. Thank you!xA-2 said: well, in a specific situation like that may..... well, it's hard to believe the truth. I guess it's something like getting into a role or something?. You undermine the potential of role-playing your characters in order to write a better version of the stories unfold. Unless you believe in it to some extent, you will never unleash the true power of being in that situation. Then you go screaming like a little girl, yeee , ahhh, yeiiii and break down in tears. You have then achieve full synchronicity with the role given to the victims in the horror stories. |
| Telepathy isn't supernatural though. |
| I can only go by experience. In short, I beleive that there are some supernatural experiences, but they are not so much supernatural than simply natural. At the ages of 10 to 15 I was able to make clouds disappear by imagination andnbelief. Once when I was about 8 years old, I had a perfectly good conversation in Greek with my friend's mother, but I did not understand what i was saying. As a teenager in the 1980's I experimented with mind powers and the art of attraction via thought. I was able to make the things happen, or objects to come to me, as I visualised them coming to me. Amazing how many times it actually worked. In the late 1980's I joined a Spiritualist group. One of our meditation circles we are asked by a division of the Police to psychically solve a case of a missing girl. Amazing how most of our visions were similar, and we named actual locations. Didn't get the results from the police, but it wasn't the first time the police used these. Many times I had a hunch or premonition, and acted on it, and had amazing results. Once I was driving my car down a main road, and just had the strong hunch to brake before the intersection as a car would career through on a red light. As I slowly approached the intersection, a car careered through. I would have been killed. Many many other things like that in my 50 years on this planet. |
| idk about you but the closer a girl gets to looking like ronald mcdonald, the more aroused i become. CAV where can we cast our eyes to @PoruMairu who thinks of himself a member of the true church. Helion. |
149597871 said: yes well, it's not about telepathy as such. Since that consists in the transmission of information between beings. But what shows in that transcript seemed supernatural to me for several reasons. Since, as the definition says, it can be related to clairvoyance or events that cannot be explained by natural laws. That is, supernatural.Telepathy isn't supernatural though. Oter5o said: There are people who believe in dragons.Yet, research shows many people genuinely believe in the existence of psychic powers FaceTime. PoruMairu said: I don't know what part of this story to take me seriously. You caught meI can only go by experience. In short, I beleive that there are some supernatural experiences, but they are not so much supernatural than simply natural. At the ages of 10 to 15 I was able to make clouds disappear by imagination andnbelief. Once when I was about 8 years old, I had a perfectly good conversation in Greek with my friend's mother, but I did not understand what i was saying. As a teenager in the 1980's I experimented with mind powers and the art of attraction via thought. I was able to make the things happen, or objects to come to me, as I visualised them coming to me. Amazing how many times it actually worked. In the late 1980's I joined a Spiritualist group. One of our meditation circles we are asked by a division of the Police to psychically solve a case of a missing girl. Amazing how most of our visions were similar, and we named actual locations. Didn't get the results from the police, but it wasn't the first time the police used these. Many times I had a hunch or premonition, and acted on it, and had amazing results. Once I was driving my car down a main road, and just had the strong hunch to brake before the intersection as a car would career through on a red light. As I slowly approached the intersection, a car careered through. I would have been killed. Many many other things like that in my 50 years on this planet. But I believe in premonitory dreams, by too obvious coincidences. |
| Exactly. Remote Viewing is considered supernatural. Clairvoyance also has to do with time. Which is reflected in the transcript. https://www.occultopedia.com/c/clairvoyance.htm https://www.occultopedia.com/r/remote_viewing.htm "Intelligence agencies, such as the CIA and KGB, are now known to have used remote viewers to help penetrate the iron Curtain during the Cold War." but I am not sure of clairvoyance since it is taken differently or more spiritualist. |
xA-2 said: Exactly. Remote Viewing is considered supernatural. Clairvoyance also has to do with time. Which is reflected in the transcript. https://www.occultopedia.com/c/clairvoyance.htm https://www.occultopedia.com/r/remote_viewing.htm "Intelligence agencies, such as the CIA and KGB, are now known to have used remote viewers to help penetrate the iron Curtain during the Cold War." but I am not sure of clairvoyance since it is taken differently or more spiritualist. No clairvoyance means clear sight. It has to do with seeing things. You're thinking of precognition. No you're thinking of mediums. |
traed said: No, I didn't mean that. Precognition has only to do with future events. Not the past as seen in the transcript. But it is not claircognizance either as it also has to do with future things.xA-2 said: Exactly. Remote Viewing is considered supernatural. Clairvoyance also has to do with time. Which is reflected in the transcript. https://www.occultopedia.com/c/clairvoyance.htm https://www.occultopedia.com/r/remote_viewing.htm but I am not sure of clairvoyance since it is taken differently or more spiritualist. No clairvoyance means clear sight. It has to do with seeing things. You're thinking of precognition. No you're thinking of mediums. Nor the mediums that is something completely different to that story lol. I said it because they relate it to spiritual channeling. |
xA-2 said: traed said: No, I didn't mean that. Precognition has only to do with future events. Not the past as seen in the transcript. But it is not claircognizance either as it also has to do with future things.No clairvoyance means clear sight. It has to do with seeing things. You're thinking of precognition. No you're thinking of mediums. Nor the mediums that is something completely different to that story lol. I said it because they relate it to spiritual channeling. It's easy to get the terms mixed up really. |
traed said: ye that is true. So the term that should be used in this case?xA-2 said: No, I didn't mean that. Precognition has only to do with future events. Not the past as seen in the transcript. But it is not claircognizance either as it also has to do with future things. Nor the mediums that is something completely different to that story lol. I said it because they relate it to spiritual channeling. It's easy to get the terms mixed up really. |
| Well yeah I mean, the Futhark runes are said to contain the secrets of the universe so there's that. There's also a tradition of female seers in my faith, so I guess that also applies because they can "see" the future. |
| “Loddfafnir, listen to my counsel: You will fare well if you follow it, It will help you much if you heed it. If aware that another is wicked, say so: Make no truce or treaty with foes.” - Havamal 127 |
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