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Mar 21, 2010 12:29 PM
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Aww that was really sad. Stupid Team Rocket.

Sep 4, 2010 7:30 AM
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That Dragonite was awesome.
Oct 8, 2010 1:54 AM
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Nice, the seiyuu of Masaki/Bill <3
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Jul 27, 2011 4:11 AM
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Alicia3000 said:
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Aww that was really sad. Stupid Team Rocket.


This, they ruined the mood lol.
Jan 27, 2012 2:50 PM
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Dat poor Dragonite. :'(
Feb 9, 2012 5:28 AM
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Nintendo is still making pokemons, Bill. If this goes on, there'll be more than a million of these pets.
Oct 29, 2012 2:16 PM
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I can't really understand why Misty said that Ash did not catch any of his Pokemon... What about Pigeoto? What about Caterpie? And Bulbasaur only joined the crew after Pikachu beat him. *sigh* what a stupid woman.
Oct 29, 2012 2:21 PM
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i love this episode SOOO much.
Feb 27, 2013 10:50 PM
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What!? Over 150 Pokemon!? That's insane, no one could ever catch 'em all! And that's crazy talk, could there actually be other generations of Pokemon yet to be discovered?

I was a little surprised by James' innuendo, "So size does matter", because it's 4Kids, and I can't see them putting that in there lol. Also, that was a huge Dragonite.

Eftanzio said:
I can't really understand why Misty said that Ash did not catch any of his Pokemon... What about Pigeoto? What about Caterpie? And Bulbasaur only joined the crew after Pikachu beat him. *sigh* what a stupid woman.
Yeah I agree here, as much as I like Misty, her statement pissed me off. Though, he really didn't earn his first two badges.
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Ash definitely didn't earn the badges, but he totally caught some of the Pokemon. Though, Misty and Brock could've had Charmander. That one was definitely anybody's game.

Also, this episode was very good. It bothered me that Bill said Dragonite was one of a kind, etc. It's clearly not. Even in that region, Lance has a Dragonite or three. Still, great episode.

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Jan 25, 2014 6:03 PM
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HalibelTheEspada said:
What!? Over 150 Pokemon!? That's insane, no one could ever catch 'em all! And that's crazy talk, could there actually be other generations of Pokemon yet to be discovered?

Professer Oak said Gary already caught 45 pokemon.... That's like about a third already. Ash got 7. Slow progress but I like it that way idk why hehe n_n
And yes, actually pokemon are being discovered
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Eftanzio said:
I can't really understand why Misty said that Ash did not catch any of his Pokemon... What about Pigeoto? What about Caterpie? And Bulbasaur only joined the crew after Pikachu beat him. *sigh* what a stupid woman.


Yeppa I was thinking the same. He may had luck and some of them joined the crew because they wanted BUT he still caught th others


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It's a shame that Musashi and Kojirou scared the dragonite away. It's the first time they've actually pissed me off :/
May 18, 2017 3:14 AM

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150 pokemon....lol.

And also mysterious one of a kind pokemon? Dragonites aren't that rare....though it was quite large.
Jul 8, 2020 9:21 AM

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I love Pokemon Dragonite, but I was bothered by Misty's comment, but it's true that she didn't win her first 2 medals.
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Back when there were only 150 and they didn't look like household items.

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one of the few episodes i had in VHS (this and the next one), what a nostalgic episode and times, where talking about how much pokemon there are - over 150, and huge dragonite considered one of a kind.

funny that everyone's cookers had gone vacation.
May 23, 2021 6:16 PM
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Super good episode. Although, the fact of "150 pokemon" was totally retconned as
which is a shame but oh well.

Also, that giant dragonite was super cool and it was nice learning more about extinct pokemon and it does feel more and more similar to the animals on planet earth. Bill was quite intelligent and I feel bad for him. I didn't realize how massive the dragonite was until it stood next to team rocket lmao




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Aug 18, 2022 8:44 AM
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Man why did Team Rocket had to ruin it ,,>n<,,
Dec 10, 2022 3:11 PM
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Bro thinks he's tough talking on mal 😭 if you ever see me in the streets you better run because I don't play no games.
Jan 15, 2023 5:11 AM

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Misty's claim that Ash didn't catch any Pokémon is a lie! Sadly, sometimes the ardor of the main character balances Misty. Also, why do Misty and Brock start dancing to this music? This music is not suitable for dancing. xD How did the pokeball disappear from Ash's hands? What is this magic? Team Rocket's act was very mean.
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Also, why do Misty and Brock start dancing to this music? This music is not suitable for dancing. xD


It was really odd tbh both in the dub and original version. Both versions used different background music, but it didn't fit with the scene either way.
Jan 16, 2023 9:24 PM

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Early_Morning said:
Pleasant_weather said:
Also, why do Misty and Brock start dancing to this music? This music is not suitable for dancing. xD

It was really odd tbh both in the dub and original version. Both versions used different background music, but it didn't fit with the scene either way.

Yes. What music was in japanese version? There was whale singing in Russian version.
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That giant Dragonite was scary though
Oct 15, 2023 7:24 PM
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Actual masterpiece. so many good things with this episode its hard to say. i love the aura that the dynamax dragonite brings to the episode, his cry sounds so bizarre yet calming. the whole lighthouse has some awsome vibes, the sound design team really worked hard for this one. i also like the character work, team rocket are especcially good in this episode, and bill is very cute too.
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Pokemon illution:o he is very big like godzilla.

How is satoshi get 2 badges and 6 pokemons it just gave to him and pokemon just followed, didn't catch theys. but satoshi never stop doing.
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i remember being blown away by this ep as a little kid realizing the whole Dragonite part is a Godzilla reference. that and the spookiness and the classy lore dumping about the secrets of the ancient pokemon and yep it's still a GOD tier episode. can remember being pissed off all day at school over Team Rocket shooting the Charizard
ooooooooooo Brock & Misty dancin the night away ^_^
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Misty is really tough to bear, how can she accuse Ash of not catching anything? The Pokemons didn't just come to him out of the blue, did they? He did something to get them lol
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What!? Over 150 Pokemon!? That's insane, no one could ever catch 'em all! And that's crazy talk, could there actually be other generations of Pokemon yet to be discovered?

I was a little surprised by James' innuendo, "So size does matter", because it's 4Kids, and I can't see them putting that in there lol. Also, that was a huge Dragonite.

Eftanzio said:
I can't really understand why Misty said that Ash did not catch any of his Pokemon... What about Pigeoto? What about Caterpie? And Bulbasaur only joined the crew after Pikachu beat him. *sigh* what a stupid woman.
Yeah I agree here, as much as I like Misty, her statement pissed me off. Though, he really didn't earn his first two badges.
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What!? Over 150 Pokemon!?
lol this number was wrong from episode one when they showed oh-ho which isn't gen1 pokemon.
Apr 25, 9:28 PM
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Misty did have a point at that he technically only caught and battled two caterpie and Pidgeotto the other three choice to join him. I loved that when Bill mentioned 150 pokemon this was before they thought of the other regions. If pokeballs can be transported back the the trainers hometown lab where they started their journey makes me think why can't people be transported to different locations.
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For someone that said he was going to catch all the Pokémon, Ash is going very slowly. He doesn't even have a spearow yet even though he came across many of them already. But he did catch a few, even if we don't count the ones that decided to go with him, so Misty was very unfair to him.

And it's a bit strange that Bill was acting as if Dragonite was an unknown Pokémon when they clearly already know it because he's one of the 150. A Pokémon researcher should have recognised it.
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That is NOT MY BILL. Giant Pseduo-dragonite looking thing is never brought up again. It's fine if a series wants to have unsolved mysteries but still, it felt like a hlaf-baked idea that wasn't followed up on.

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